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Last updated on July 16th, 2017 at 04:47 am
Sydney may have seen its first fatal case of water rage.
UPDATE. Looks like the murder was indeed eco-related:
A 66-year-old man had been watering his front lawn, on Formosa Street in Sylvania, when another man, 36, who was walking past the house, challenged him about water restrictions.
The two argued and police said at one point the 66-year-old turned the hose on the other man, wetting him.
The 36-year-old attacked the older man, punching him, pushing him to the ground and then kicking him.
The attacker is a bright fellow:
A Sydney Water spokesman said if the time stated in the police report was correct, the deceased man was not violating Sydney’s water restrictions.
UPDATE II. The UK Telegraph: “Australia suffers first ‘water rage’ death.”
UPDATE III. Further details on the victim and his alleged killer:
Ken Proctor and his mates should have been at Sylvania Bowls Club last night sinking a schooner or two. He might have talked proudly of his new grand-daughter, born only a month ago.
But the 66-year-old’s chair was empty last night following his death, apparently after the most trivial dispute imaginable – over the watering of his lawn.
He was hosing his large front lawn just after 5pm on Wednesday when Todd Munter, walking past Mr Proctor’s brick two-storey house on Formosa Street, Sylvania, allegedly accused him of violating water restrictions.
green thinking…“water is more valuable than a human life”
Quite a tolerant bunch eh?
Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 31 at 10:35 AM • permalink
66 is elderly? Old? I think I feel a rage comin’ on. Age rage, perhaps.
Recently, I heard an interview on radio where someone, somewhere, had decided that “young” was up to 38 years old, but “middle age” set in at 45, and “old” began at 68. Bugger that!
So, if you’re 39-44, what are you? Nothin’. Absolutely nothin’, apparently. Oh. And just for the record, I’m more than a few years short of “old”.
Moving on. Am I alone in thinking that ever since the media started labelling this rage and that rage, people seem to be outdoing themselves in creating ever more categories?
Whatever happened to minding one’s own business and fecking off when so directed? There’s no respect anymore.
Besides, if some young punk assaulted me when I had a loaded water hose in hand, waterboarding would become more than a newspaper word. As it is, the way shite goes nowadays, the busybody will probably get off scot-free.
And – Age is a state of mind. At 58, going on 59, I don’t feel old. My teenage sons don’t like the fact that I won’t let them ride my new bicycle but I need it to stay in shape for their mother. She’ll always be younger than me and I like that.
Geez, all he would have to do is wait a couple years and the lawn will be under water.
Except it’ll be covered with salt water, Veeshir, and that will kill the lawn. You know…..a non-human life form. Can’t have that sort of violence now, can we?
/envirotard
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 31 at 01:46 PM • permalink
“Whiskey is for drinking. Water is for fighting over.”
-Mark Twain
Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 10 31 at 02:41 PM • permalink
Effects escape by tossing handful of McDonald’s senior discount coupons into middle of crowd.
Bingo cards paco, bingo cards….
turns and runs cause I’m still faster than an angry mob of sexagenarians
Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 31 at 03:24 PM • permalink
Switching from “the young at heart” to the young in years, I was not aware that the traffic in children included buying and selling them as soldiers. Unnerving story.
Sounds like a case of the GW hysterics vs the sceptics.
It hysterics 1, sceptics 0.
Next time I water the garden, I’ll just have to go armed. If someone starts saying, “Hey, you can’t do…” BLAM.
“It was me or him, your honour. A precedent has been set.”
As for old, I reckon it starts when you need to give the pubes a dose of Grecian 2000.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 10 31 at 03:40 PM • permalink
Remember a story from a few months ago when a young punk tried to rob another ‘senior citizen’ who turned out to be ex-military and still in good enough shape to prove he wasn’t the easy pickings the punk hoped for? Too bad history didn’t repeat itself. I hope this man’s family files a civil suit to go along with the criminal charges.
I keep wondering when I’m supposed to consider myself “elderly”, and when I have to stop making fun of old people. I suppose at some point it’ll come to me, although Mr. H already tells me I’m older than dirt. Usually when he’s made sure he’s out of reach.
On topic, I wonder how that young busybody feels about water restrictions now that he’s killed somebody over them.
I wonder if the Leftards in the media will be attacking Rudd and Garrett for this outcome from their global alarminism, just like they attack Howard et al when some nutjob pulls the hejab off a Muslim woman.
Yeah, right.
Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 10 31 at 04:46 PM • permalink
Beware the wrinkled and age spotted “fists of fury.”
I recommend “fists of .45” instead. This makes a deeper impression on criminals.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 31 at 04:57 PM • permalink
A while back, I was paying for my lunch at a buffet restaurant called Sweet Tomatoes. The clerk asked me if I had a coupon, and I replied, “No, but you can give me the 10% discount ‘cause I’m so old and all.” An old fellow at the other cash register was putting his change into his wallet. He paused, turned, and gave me a really grim look. He was not amused, but I thought that the whole scene was hilarious.
So, if you’re 39-44, what are you? Nothin’. Absolutely nothin’, apparently. Oh. And just for the record, I’m more than a few years short of “old”.
Us gen xrs are used to being forgotten. We were forgotten by PJK as we started to enter the workforce, we were forgotten as the BBs started getting worked up about retirement, and we were forgotten by the gen Ys who seem to think that they know it all within six months of entering a tight labour market desperate for workers.
But hey, we don’t resent nuthin.
Not that many years ago, kicking somebody during a fight was considered an act of cowardice. There’s one value that deserves a comeback.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 31 at 05:37 PM • permalink
- OT
Which arm of service do you support?Soldiers Angels and Valour-IT give you the opportunity to decide. Thus far, the Army has been demonstrating its innate superiority; while the Air Force boldly maintains its fourth-place position. The Navy and Marines fill the interval.Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 10 31 at 05:41 PM • permalink
Re: update, I’m glad I installed a lawn sprinkler system at my place. Should the eco-nuts move into this part of the world, I can sit on the roof with a rifle while they try to challenge me about water restrictions.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 31 at 05:41 PM • permalink
All y’all talkin’ ‘bout sexagenarians shuddup. You can run, but you can’t outlast the new, long-lasting battery in my wheel-chair. I’ll catch up to you.
One of my favorite stories is that of a bank robbery perpetrated by a 19 year old man. He picked out the oldest teller, and handed her a note that said, “Give me all your f**king money.” His bad language so incensed her that she picked up her tray and bashed him over the head. The authorities hauled away a very confused young man. I laughed!
So much for brotherhood and love. Calling people evil just because they disagree with you opens the floodgates to serious consequences.
You’re right. Fight was over. The younger guy wasn’t fighting for his life.
I can’t say honestly that I would never take a swing at a guy who’d just sprayed me with his garden hose.
However, as the victim was ‘armed’ only with a garden hose, it really takes a special kind of arsehole to continue to kick him once he’s on the ground.
- I think a hose up the fundiment and a bit of high pressure might clean out this dickheads brain.
Fancy being that low as to assault anoldman in the prime of his life.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 31 at 06:43 PM • permalink
- #31
Don’t be silly Dan, noone in their right mind would pick a fight with you.Unless they’re really, really stupid… like those little yappy dogs that don’t realise that they are little yappy dogs…Well, the defence will be “I didn’t mean to kill him, it was an accident…”
And the arsehole will probably get away with it.
If you don’t mean to hurt someone you don’t hit them. And you certainly don’t kick them when they are down.
I’m back. Had to find my false teeth and ear trumpet.
So this jerk obviously commits manslaughter over trivial crap, and now his lawyer is going to plead for a short sentence because the 66 year old was old and breakable and probably was going to croak soon anyway…
I’m with Rod C: he’ll get 6 months.
So you folks in Oz can’t carry concealed weapons, and you don’t have a ‘no obligation to retreat’ law, eh? In Texas, that young fellow would be in potter’s field by now and the gardener would be throwing grass seed on the blood stains in the yard. As any football coach will tell you, blood makes the grass grow.
So, as a non-Australian, let me ask…If this guy had waited till Kevni is elected instead of just murdering the 66-yr-old could the killer just have reported the fellow and had him sent away to a Boncentration Bamp?
Posted by Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on 2007 10 31 at 07:31 PM • permalink
A Sydney Water spokesman said if the time stated in the police report was correct, the deceased man was not violating Sydney’s water restrictions.
It doesn’t matter that he was not violating Sydney’s water restrictions. He could have been.
Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 10 31 at 07:41 PM • permalink
It doesn’t matter that he was not violating Sydney’s water restrictions. He could have been.
He was interfering with Gaia. That’s what killed him. Gaia rage.
The next line in Greenpeace T-shirts will be:
“Save the polar bears – kill the humans”
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 10 31 at 07:46 PM • permalink
The eco freak was just adding the blood n’ bone to the lawn.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 31 at 07:48 PM • permalink
But dammit, Tim, the youngster just cared so much!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 31 at 08:10 PM • permalink
- Ain’t it the Left’s social engineers that devise the categories?
‘Hose rage’ by one of their own?
Figures.Unless they’re really, really stupid… like those little yappy dogs that don’t realise that they are little yappy dogs…
People do what works – runts are aggressive and big guys are more passive, lest they look like a pr*ck for beating up a little yappy dog …Suspect it was an angry, yappy lil dog that got stuck into the old boy, a ‘bigger’ man would have walked away/laughed it off.
#41 Merlin: Just yesterday in WA yet another cretin (with a previous assault record) was found not guilty after he’d shoved a bloke who fell, cracked his head, and died.
Seems like we have one of these “one punch” cases over here every second week, so I can’t figure out why the defendant “…could not have known that his action would result in death”. Or some such.
Now the government is moving to insert a new charge between assault and manslaughter. Whatever they decide to call it, it’s to carry a 5-20 year sentence. About bloody time.
It doesn’t matter what the sentence turns out being. When this guy’s tossed into jail, the back wall of his cell will slide open and a shadowy figure in a suit smoking a cigarette will emerge offering to make his criminal record disappear on the proviso that he cut off all contact with his friends and family and come work for Sydney Water.
Now, if you had to have a bet, which of the following would you put your money on?
The 36-year old votes for:
A) Greens
B) Labor
C) Coalition
D) OtherHe is:
A) University educated
B) Trades educated
C) High school educated
D) Left school before the end of high schoolHe works as:
A) A public servant (including in education)
B) The private sector
C) An environmental organisation
D) Is unemployedIf you selected A, A & A then I reckon you’re on the money.
Only a university education and the inverted moral values of a greens supporter can create the sense of righteousness required to result in it being morally OK to assault someone for watering their lawn during a water restriction period.
Such an action requires the totalitarian attitude of today’s left, which sees itself as being on a higher moral plane than the rest of us.
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 10 31 at 08:37 PM • permalink
Maybe the attacker forgot to adjust for daylight saving, and thought the bloke was watering his lawn during the verboten period.
Just another reason why Queensland should avoid daylight saving. If this attack is any indication, the hose assault rate north of the border will skyrocket (along with much increased curtain fading and cow discomfort).
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 10 31 at 08:40 PM • permalink
A mans life is taken for watering his lawn, yet each day we allow millions of non-indicating, fast lane dawdling, tailgating chumps to continue to breathe. It’s time to get our priorities right.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 31 at 08:54 PM • permalink
A Sydney Water spokesman said if the time stated in the police report was correct, the deceased man was not violating Sydney’s water restrictions
I’m guessing this was ecotalitarianism, as opposed to ecovigilantism. He probably knows the law and just decided he would bully people into not watering their lawns at all. He probably figures he came out ahead: since he killed the guy, his victim’s carbon/water footprint is now greatly reduced.
Because Gaia is crying, and only we can save her!
#56 El Cid!! Hi sweetie!! waves~~~~
I reckon that article you linked to was actually right on topic with this thread.
Moslem men whining about “emotional abuse” caused by women wearing revealing clothes, directly parallels the argument the defence will use to get this thug off.
He was “emotionally abused” by the sight of the old fella watering his lawn during these times of precipitational lack.
On the other hand, he could say he had Hydrophobia and that’s what really set him off.
And then go here:
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 31 at 09:11 PM • permalink
Middle age is the time when you start counting years backwards
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 31 at 09:47 PM • permalink
Unbelievable.For a young guy to beat up an old man over watering the garden? Then to continue to kick the poor bloke when he was on the ground?
I just cant make sense of this, maybe if he was robbing him at the time, or if there was past bad blood between then or something. But if this is just a “chance” meeting then I don’t know what to think…..
- If that happened in Texas, we’d kill the perp.
What are you gonna do Australia?Posted by Shaky Barnes on 2007 10 31 at 10:16 PM • permalink
Violent enviro facism started in Sydney on 11/1/07. Can we now call extreme green propaganda ‘Hate Speech’?
Posted by platey mates on 2007 10 31 at 10:39 PM • permalink
Munter’s lawyer, Danny Saad, told the court that, due to a problem with four screws in Munter’s back, he might need an operation quite soon and he was not sure if that could be done in jail.
You see, therein lies the problem. The four screws in his back, were taken from his head.
On the other hand, if OZ prisons are similar to U.S prisons…he’ll get plenty of “screws”.
Shit, I turn 48 next month and don’t feel any different to when I was 28 (except when I’ve been on the turps, and wake up feeling about 2000 years old). Pity the poor sod wasn’t using my method of lawn care– his attacker may have increased his carbon footprint initially, but the water vapour released would have added a couple of millimetres to Warragamba.
#58- I’m betting on an invalid pension, self-justified as recompense for his tireless ands valiant work on behalf of the environment.
By name and nature I’d hazard.
The court heard Munter was suffering from a chronic back problem of 4½ years, which required that he take “very serious pain medication”.
Gee, my trick knee hurts. Think I’ll go kick the shit out of a septegenarian.
Posted by Mambo Bananapatch on 2007 10 31 at 11:23 PM • permalink
#83- I couldn’t for the life of me bring myself to waste 30 minutes of my life on that twaddle- you know it’s going to ming when even Australian TV reviewers bag a locally made show; they normally gush over any old shit, which to me indicates they all have a vibrant, frsh and original script in their top drawers and don’t want to piss off any potential producers.
I’d put in an application for funding to the ABC/Pac Film/Aust Council for a comedy series poking fun at the facile, pretentious and dopey inner-urban left, but once again don’t want to waste my time- after all, poking fun at bogans and imaginary central casting conservatives is hilarious, looking in a mirror is terrifying.
- No# 29
O/T to buggery, but ABC’s Spicks n Specks at last had a guest with half a brain on last night.Deborah Conway !
Didn’t see it Pickles- but for mine, any part of that show where the camera is not longingly lingering in a close-up shot of Myf Warhurst’s cleavage is an utter waste of time.(Cue Homer Simpson voice-over)MMMMmmm..Myf!!
Your views, Sir?
Posted by lex luthor on 2007 11 01 at 01:01 AM • permalink
- They had bob Brown on ABC local radio this morning as i was coming home from work.
They opened the lines for talkback, mercifully short.
One DH started with “I work in mining and transport, and Ill vote for you Bob”
Every 2nd caller was a sycophant.
One came through with a good question on “How many of the countries who’ve signed up to Kyoto were meeting their targets”.
Bob was allowed to get away with saying “Oh I don’t have those details on me”. and that was it, on to the next human hoover.
The mask slipped a bit when the world population was mentioned though, 6 billion is already to many….then a quick swap over to consumption rather than population numbers.
I don’t think Bob would come out well if those points were hammered, he strikes me as a year zero sort of bloke.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 11 01 at 01:09 AM • permalink
#85- I thought Debra Conway was a daphne- certainly used to be a strident feminazi in her Do Re Mi days.
That airhead Myf Warhurst does nothing for me, fairly dumpy and a voice like fingernails on a blackboard- also none too bright seeing as she laughs like a drain at the inane, moronic banter of Jay and the Doctor on JJJ breakfast, wheras it makes me want to punch the shit out of both of them, while simultaneously kicking them in the bollocks; they make assorted breakfast crews on commercial FM sound erudite and intellectual in comparison.
The court heard Munter was suffering from a chronic back problem of 4½ years, which required that he take “very serious pain medication”.
Munter’s lawyer, Danny Saad, told the court that, due to a problem with four screws in Munter’s back, he might need an operation quite soon and he was not sure if that could be done in jail.
Maybe he should have though about that before he punched and then kicked a man to death while he was down for wetting him with a garden hose.
Speaking of daphnes, i reckon waterwatch boy’s got more chance of doing serious time than this chemise lifter– I don’t reckon she’d even need to lodge an application to get a yartz grant, senior role in governmentor appointed to the bench.
#92 – Bugger me. Deaf, black, lesbian… friend of Allah? Heck of a quadrella if she is.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 01:52 AM • permalink
- Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 01 at 01:53 AM • permalink
#94 – The internet is a marvel. And that clip is further proof yet, that every Australian should be provided high speed broadband at taxpayers expense.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 01:59 AM • permalink
Pickles – What’s the drum with Deb Conway? Don’t tell me she’s the member of the entertainment industry who gave Tim B his arts grant?
And as far as Myf Warhurst’s concerned – lovely chesticles, but she’s got a voice that could turn J Gillard off her tucker. Apparently she’s got the taste for filthy lucre and has flown the coop to commercial radio land. Either that or those feral mongs she hangs out with at JJJ have given up showering completely.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 02:04 AM • permalink
- No#97
And as far as Myf Warhurst’s concerned – lovely chesticles, but she’s got a voice that could turn J Gillard off her tucker.That may be, Infidel, but there are sundry purposes to which I fancy she could usefully be put (preferably involving the unholstering of one or more of the first mentioned) which would render that latter quibble entirely nugatory.I prefer to imagine, for example, that she is too well brought up to speak with her mouth full.
Posted by lex luthor on 2007 11 01 at 02:21 AM • permalink
- #97 IT
Dunno, TB was typically cryptic, but I read an interview in some shithouse train rag to the effect that she was a devotee of “LGF”. There wouldn’t be many who would decypher that, but I figured it was better than a devotee of lav paper or green left weekly.perhaps we should have a guessing comp ?Who is the Oz musician who you’d think was more like Garrett, but gave TB some play lunch money?
Here’s a start- Three guesses each
1. Deb Conway
2. Dave Faulkner (Hoodoo Gurus)
3. Mandaway Yunipingu (Yothu Yindi)
Hugh Mackay on Phatty’s show atm- so much shit being spun i think someone better call a bulk manure manufacturer.
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 01 at 02:47 AM • permalink
If that is so she must have had a real road to Damascus moment- she used to be a more flaming pinko than a horrible genetic experiment gone wrong involving the combined DNA of Rob Hurst, Peter Garrett, Shane Howard and Paul Kelley.
It would show she at least has enough maturity to graduate from youthful idealism, unlike the former mentioned dickheads.
packager I mean- they’re making plenty between them
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 01 at 02:48 AM • permalink
she was a devotee of “LGF”.
She probably meant the Lesbian Grants Fund.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 02:56 AM • permalink
I hope I am not breaking any confidentialities here, but I have it on good authority it was actually John Butler of the John Butler Trio.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 01 at 03:12 AM • permalink
And isn’t methane a major greenhouse gas? If we fired Phillip Adams into the sun all of our global warming worries would be solved. And all that manky black gear he gets about in- the sheer surface area involved would suck up more radiation than a Japanese movie monster, transforming the energy to heat.
Time to put the Phat in the Phyre!
#109 – Considering how many different opinions and positions he’s had of late, I hadn’t ruled out Peter Garrett himself. My next guess was the fat chick from Australian Idol.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 03:22 AM • permalink
#114- Agreed, quite possibly the most whiffy supernova in the entire history of the universe, but worth the price. After all, what’s a clothespeg for every humans hooter going to cost, compared with
birdslicerswind generators, solar panels, carbon credits and all the other folderol associated with climate calamity?
Just consider it the realignment of the precautionary principle, whereby the lack of scientific certainty shall not excuse the taking of action to mitigate a posible deleterious effect.
How ever to launch him though ?
A massive rubber band ?
An enomous Chinese skyrocket up his date ?
One of those G Force simulator centrifuge thingies ?
A billion simultaneous boots up the arse?
#118 – We just need some arse sperlunker to take one for the team (the rest of humanity), crawl into his bowel and strike a match. With all the rotting flesh and gaseous matter in that bad boy, Phat Phil will be one of Jupiter’s new moons in no time.
Volunteers?
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 01 at 03:56 AM • permalink
OT: It’s scary when Mark Hemingway can construct such an accurate Maureen Dowd article.
A little email that fell off the back of a truck…
Dear Tim
Please find my modest contribution to your Pledge Week attached.
No doubt you may be surprised to find John Butler of the John Butler Trio contributing to your website, but please don’t confuse my branding with my political beliefs. The dreads aren’t real either.
Life might not be about what’s better, but reading Larvatus Prodeo is to have no life.
Yours etc
John Butler of the John Butler Trio
PS FFS, don’t overdo it with the sentences starting with “Why,…”
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 01 at 04:20 AM • permalink
- #118
Hey, Pickles, I think I found a volunteer, there’s only one little problem with this plan. He’s a Darwin Award recipient, or should be.Anyone else remember the joke which ends:“I’ll never forget the look on the monkey’s face…”
Take Deborah Conway, singer, songwriter, most famed for the feminist and political angles of her early work with rock group Do Re Mi. While she is justifiably proud of her first hit, “Man Overboard,” with its provocative lyrics and unconventional song structure – no chorus, for example – the music she is making today, from her St Kilda home base, is worlds away from the angst she revelled in for many years. Formerly the “angry young woman” of Australian rock, the 45-year old mother of three has mellowed.
- #86 tfm
I have it on good authority that the ABC talk-back shows have a very strong filter to determine which callers go to air. When you ring in, you have to tell them what you plan to say and if they don’t like the sound of you, your call is rejected.
A seppo friend gave up trying to get through the filter when he realised that he was rejected as soon as the luvvies heard his accent.
A “worker in mining and transport” in love with Bob Brown?
I think not. More likely a worker in the tax-funded sheltered workshop known as the ABstinkingC.
- No# 103
Big lunch inhaling gallons of McLaren Vale’s finest Lex ?
Sadly Pickles, not so, though I’m tipping I was still north of 0.08 from last night’s enthusiasms as I unwrapped the sandwiches. The legal caper is no longer what it was in the ‘80s and toil and duty intervened, but spooky indeed how close to the mark you were.
As I read yours I was tucking in to the first post-hooter glass of attitude-adjuster; which just happened to be a 2002 Maxwell’s Cab Sav- and a finer $20 bottle of McLaren Vale I’ve not yet identified- the search continues however.
If your thinly veiled insinuations referred to the prolixity of my comment above, I guess all I can say is…its a fair cop guv, you’ve got me bang to rights.
If, however, you were cavilling with my choice of trouser arousal- why, sir I shall have to insist, for your impudence, upon your meeting me with pistols at dawn!
My compliments, however, to your learned work colleagues who, it appears, have an even keener appreciation of a great rack than Torquemada.Posted by lex luthor on 2007 11 01 at 06:35 PM • permalink
- Lex
I like Pertaringa Cab Sav, but I think it went past $20 long ago.As to your assertion in respect of my “impudence” you got me pegged. Recently, I was involved in a big blue between some, shall we say, “different” members of the same family over property. I was having a fair bit of fun, given the nature of clients and the fellow up the other end of the table was a bit “different” as well.HH, not unknown for his irascibilty said:“Mr Pickles, I feel like a spectator at a mad hatters tea party”.
Me submits: “I’m not sure if lead caused this YH, but I think lead would fix it”
HH: Anything further in that vein ?
Me: No YH
J: How very wise Mr Pickles
Settled during lunchtime
When the notion takes hold that humans are little more than scavengers and parasites on Mother Earth, we shouldn’t be surprised when a fanatic weighs the life an old man against a little water, and finds the former to be of less value.