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Antony Loewenstein, who discovers profound meaning in Asian stereotypes, seems to be undergoing some form of Oriental transformation himself:
Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush …
Prease, missa Roewenstein! Prease, anything but the hollible anti-Semitic blush! Actually, our friend seems quite happy to wear a charge of anti-Semitism, since it helps debate along or something. Here’s the full sentence:
Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush but then, how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?
Who knows what on earth Rowy means by that. Anyway, he’s fixed the “blush” error; imagine how his editors at Melbourne University Press will go about fixing an entire Loewenstein book.
- I am not sure what interest this holds for dreamboat. He is neither a politician nor a journalist.Posted by captain on 2005 10 25 at 03:55 AM • permalink
- how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?
Well, one might try rational debate. Just a thought. Maybe start with not pre-judging the facts. Like that little word, “brutal”. Adjectives cost money, Dreamboat-san.
Fortunately, full stops are free. We recycle them from the floating-point unit.
- Perhaps we should start framing the debate in terms of the Arabs’ brutal occupation of Israel for the last century or so.Posted by Aaron – Freewill on 2005 10 25 at 04:30 AM • permalink
- Antony Lowenstein – coming down on the wrong side of history for forty years.Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 10 25 at 04:45 AM • permalink
- o/t Student union president Nick Richardson from Monash uni said today that student guild funds were used for the Free West Papua campaign and the Stop The War coalition.
(stop U.S. occupiers from oppressing Iraqi Women).The A.L.P. has written to student unions asking for cash to fund anti coalition government I.R. reform advertisements. Source Oz.
- THe arrogant young pipsqueak in his immitation bloommsbury set velvet jacket should join the ISM and step in front of a Dozer.
Then they’l put on plays about him in Melbourne’s arty circles and turn him into a jewish shaheed.
His name will live on forever unlike all the young victims of suicide bombers whose names have never even been mentioned by most of the left wing press.
This is the best solution as his chances of ever gaining an understanding of the history of Israel are absolute zero,
- There’s some interesting discussions about dropping the hypen from anti-Semitism (and writing antisemitism instead).
It stops
Arab propagandistsuninformed parties from adopting the latest craze in Jewbaiting, insisting that “Arabs are Semites too, therefore Jews are anti-Semitic”. Its right up there with the argument that “Jews call all criticism of Israel antisemitic” even though they absolutely don’t. That is, it is an an attempt by anti-Israeli and antisemitic groups to deligitimise the very real presence of modern antisemitism and suggest that Jews are a paranoid group rather than victims of ongoing terror who (unfortunately for some) refuse to simply die.Lowenstein is one of those who will insist he gets called an antisemite as a knee-jerk reaction, when most Jews (and non-Jews alike) could also ascribe a whole bunch of other adjectives quite reasonably. I suspect for guys like Lowenstein there is something along the lines of a bizzarro Godwin’s law as to who can cry “Antisemite” first.
- Hang on a second. If Israel have occupied Palestine for 40 years what must honourable Roenstein fink about the brutal occupation of Australia by Euro trash for 200 years?
I hope he is a man of principal and will lead us all in a global wandering for say 40 years to the new promised land.
Maybe we will find Margo’s democracyland that we have somehow lost.
- The word “anti-semitism” was coined by Wilhelm Marr to replace “Judenhass” (Jew-hatred) with a term that sounded less vulgar and more “scientific” (i.e. in accordance with his understanding of eugenics). I prefer to call a spade a spade and use the original term “Jew-hatred”, as it avoids the usual specious arguments about Arabs being Semites too.
Also, the word “anti-semitic” connotes that it could be a legitimate perspective, rather than based on a visceral and irrational hatred, as it almost always is.
I say almost because it is possible to hate Judaism as a religion for rational reasons (such as a general hatred for institutionalized religion), but this is very rare compared to the far more prevalent irrational Jew hatred.
Posted by lewisinnyc on 2005 10 25 at 06:45 AM • permalink
- #12 Lewisinnyc,
You’re right. Of course the problem with “Jew Hatred” is most antisemites will insist they don’t hate Jews, and indeed many of their best friends are Jewish!
The main point however, is everyone knows what anti-semitism/antisemitism/Jew hatred is and to argue about it by playing word games is a dangerous distraction from a real problem. Or as this article says:
The hyphen was put into the English translation of the original German and French terms but grammatically it was incorrect, implying that there is such a thing as semitism which it is against, or that it is equally applied to all Semites, neither of which is the case. It’s time to end word games and combat racism.
- The best part of this whole deal has been Ants abandonment by his peers. Apart from good old DirtBikeOption, he has had no support from anyone. I’ll bet his traffic never looked so good though. Make sure you get a thankyou Tim.
Maybe next he’ll become “unvisible” like some sort of Andrew Wilkie character.
- #14 As much fun as it is, I do think if Tim left Lowenstein and Kingston alone, the sooner they could commence rotting. The problem with Tim Blair pointing out all of Lowenstein and Kingston’s faults, is that some will regard it as vindictive, ad-hominem (and other trendy lefty excuses for dismissing valid debate) and therefore be polarised in support of those Blair condemns.
That is, they will decide it doesn’t matter if Lowenstein/Kingston are actually wrong, the fact that Right Wing Death-Beast Blair is viciously calling them on it means they need support.
Sort of like
PiglerPilger’s support for the Iraqi Insurgents.
- That is, they will decide it doesn’t matter if Lowenstein/Kingston are actually wrong, the fact that Right Wing Death-Beast Blair is viciously calling them on it means they need support.
That’s just fine with me. If some weak-brained lefties think they just have to hitch their wagons (their Priuses?) to confirmed nutcases like Antony and Margo, it just makes it all the easier for us to spot them. Intellectual Darwinism at work, so to speak.
- …how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?
I wonder if that’s just his famously bad grasp of language, or if he meant to write it that way? The sentence really needs an additional object (e.g. “brutal occupation of Palestine”, or whatever) to make sense in the usual context. However, as written now the sentence implies that Israel itself is being brutally occupied, presumably by those evil Joooos. Freudian slip, Tony?
Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush but then, how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?
Who knows what on earth Rowy means by that.
Simple translation:
“Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush but then, how else to finally rid ourselves of all the Jews?”
Posted by Tatterdemalian on 2005 10 25 at 10:26 AM • permalink
“Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush but then, how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?”
Well Israel was brutal. In 1967 when they were invaded by virtually every Arab country, they rose up and brutally bitch slapped the Arab armies. One little bitty nation defeated the combined armies of five or more countries.
Israel might be a very fine democratic nation in good standing, but it can be one bad mutha when its needs to be.
Posted by wronwright on 2005 10 25 at 01:05 PM • permalink
- as if you are doing a Tojo imitation
Al Franken does Tojo Hideki. (scroll down)
Few journalists or politicians want to be tarred with the anti-Semitic blush but then, how else to rationally debate Israel and its brutal occupation of nearly 40 years?
A rare moment of personal honesty from Flavius Josephus: the only way to criticize a political movement is to demonize an entire race, and if he can help demonize the race he was born into, perhaps he will win mercy (as well as money and reputation) from the very people he goads into bigotry.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 10 25 at 08:05 PM • permalink
