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Texas wins the US division of the global carbon championship! Meanwhile, in the UK division, Aberystwyth has some work to do. Over in Norway, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu condemns climate change inactivists:

World leaders who continued to ignore the reality of human-induced climate change were committing a sin against the children of the world, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu warned on Sunday ..

“Ignoring global warming is a sin, and the future of our beautiful planet is in our hands,” he said.

Next week Tutu flies to Spain for a dinner in his honour hosted by luxury goods manufacturer Louis Vuitton.

Posted by Tim B. on 06/04/2007 at 10:47 AM
    1. Heh. Everything’s bigger in Texas. Including their carbon footprint. I only wish I was still contributing.

      Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 04 at 11:04 AM • permalink


    1. Tutu was talking about world leaders, not celebrities.  They apparently have no limitations on CO2 production.

      Because if Tutu was serious about greenhouse gasses, he would keep his worthless butt in South Africa and accept any awards via teleconference.  Of course, he did that, couldn’t stay for weeks in a swanky luxury hotel, lie about the pool, and eat luxurious meals.

      Like 98% of the other celebrities opposed to greenhouse gasses, he’s a complete fraud and poseur.

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 06 04 at 11:18 AM • permalink


    1. The first carbon emissions map of Britain is released today to show which parts of the country are responsible for pumping out the most pollution.

      Carbon dioxide is “pollution” now, is it? Yep, there’s no question that we need to completely eliminate it from the atmosphere. I think all the envirotards could take a major step in that direction and stop exhaling. Show us how you really care, Gorebots!

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 04 at 11:23 AM • permalink


    1. Of course, since a big chunk of carbon emissions come from power plants, which feed a nationwide grid, the whole exercise is pointless.

      If CA consumes a kilowatt generated in a Texas coal-fired plant, does CA get tagged with the carbon emissions?  Thought not.

      Posted by R C Dean on 2007 06 04 at 11:29 AM • permalink


    1. Not only did we win the US Championship, but we also beat the U.K. France and Canada.  I’d like to thank the number one exporting economy in the country, the oil industry, not relying on other states for the production of our energy, and a booming job market for making this all possible.

      Posted by RIP Ford on 2007 06 04 at 11:30 AM • permalink


    1. When that frickin’ fraud Desmond Tutu speaks out against Robert Mugabe, then I might listen to what he says.  Until then, he can STFU.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 04 at 11:36 AM • permalink


    1. This morning: Labor’s position on climate change not extreme: Rudd.

      (Note the man in the background).

      This afternoon: Peter Beattie to ban electric hot water systems.

      Posted by C.L. on 2007 06 04 at 11:46 AM • permalink


    1. I think Aberystwyth needs to be looking for consonant offsets.

      Anyway, kudos to Texas. And Wronwright is absolutely correct about Tutu. Speaking of Archbishops, incidentally, I am reminded of H.L. Mencken’s definition: “Archbishop: A Christian ecclesiastic of a rank superior to that attained by Christ.” As a devout Catholic, I take issue with the theology, but it is still kind of funny. His Grace or Eminence (or whatever the title is for an Anglican Archbishop) should be careful about ad libbing the commandments.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 11:49 AM • permalink


    1. I think it was my coal-powered… everything that put us over the top.

      Posted by Mark V. on 2007 06 04 at 11:52 AM • permalink


    1. #7: (Note the man in the background).

      Good lord! Isn’t that Tor Johnson (seen in this picture with friend, John Pilger)?

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 11:55 AM • permalink


    1. I’m almost embarrassed to admit to this crwod that I’m from the state with the smallest carbon footprint, Idaho.  (Hello, my name is RK and my carbon footprint is too small.)

      But the reason our footprint is so low presents a dilemma to the environmentalists.  We get hydroelectric power from our rivers, which is non-polluting.  Yet, I’ve heard all my life how horrible those dams are to the fish.  link So, do we save the fish or save the planet?

      Posted by RK on 2007 06 04 at 11:57 AM • permalink


    1. Well, let’s think about what creates CO2.  How about closing down all utility plants and making people get by on windmills.  Specifically, Dutch windmills.  Made of stone.  With tulips planted around them.  Yellow ones.

      Let’s close all coal mines.  Tell the miners it’s for THE GOOD OF HUMANITY.

      Let’s close all manufacturing plants, starting with auto factories.  Let the Chinese and Asian tigers produce everything.  They don’t have any Kyoto Treaty limitations.  Evidently their CO2 is good CO2.

      Let’s ground all air transport and require people to get around by foot or by bicycle.

      And most importantly, allow the Democrat/ALP Party to include all of the above in their political platform.

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 06 04 at 12:04 PM • permalink


    1. 11: So, do we save the fish or save the planet?


      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 12:07 PM • permalink


    1. I just did my household carbon audit via Tim’s Texas link above to SafeClimate.

      It seems our family of 4, who own one motor vehicle & four bicycles, operate with gas cooking, heating and hot water, and spend at least 4 months each year at sea on a yacht (we’re talking sails, solar and windpower here, all nice & green), have a carbon footprint of 4792kg per month, the equivalent of driving a large truck 12,012 miles around Australia every month.

      EVERY MONTH! Twelve times a year. Even when we’re not on dry land. I’m exhausted just thinking about it, because the last time we did that it took us almost six months.

      This crap was calculated by a computer model on the basis of our monthly LNG and electricity usage, and driving our vehicle 200km per month.

      Now, I always knew the warmalists were nutcases, but how do you stop them putting up these absurd calculations?

      Personally, I’m waiting the nutters out patiently for the moment, with a nice baseball bat by my side.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 04 at 12:32 PM • permalink


    1. Spot the

      “Last minute deals and cheap flights to South Africa”

      advert below the article

      Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 06 04 at 12:46 PM • permalink


    1. 11: So, do we save the fish or save the planet?

      I guess since they live on the planet, the fish are fucked either way…

      Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 06 04 at 12:50 PM • permalink


    1. I always knew there was that 11th Commandment;

      Thou shalt not emit carbon dioxide

      Must have been on that tablet Moses dropped….

      Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 06 04 at 01:08 PM • permalink


    1. 17: “Must have been on that tablet Moses dropped…. “

      Starts to say something, but is nudged sharply in the ribs by Wronwright

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 01:11 PM • permalink


    1. In re: my #10: S-a-a-y! They changed the photo behind my link. Well, I’ll just out-general them by posting this one, featuring Garrett and Tim Flannery.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 01:19 PM • permalink


    1. They must have been doing this in Texas…….

      Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 06 04 at 01:33 PM • permalink


    1. “Ignoring global warming Islamists that want the planet to themselves is a sin, and the future of our beautiful planet is in our hands,”….Tutu!

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 04 at 01:52 PM • permalink


    1. #13 paco – I can just imagine this in a Tex Avery cartoon, featuring Al Gore’s eyeballs popping out of his head, and an alarm clock bursting out each ear, while he pushes his own nose like a Model-T car horn.

      Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 06 04 at 01:53 PM • permalink


    1. #22: Ah! The great Tex Avery! Yes, I would very much like to see Al respond in the way you have described. Rather like the wolf in the nighclub scene from (I believe) “Rural Red Riding Hood” (not sure if that’s one of Avery’s, but it’s got his stamp).

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 02:14 PM • permalink


    1. Kinda hard to ignore.  Would you STFU alread?

      Posted by aaron_ on 2007 06 04 at 02:19 PM • permalink


    1. “Next week Tutu flies to Spain for a dinner in his honour hosted by luxury goods manufacturer Louis Vuitton.”


      Posted by Observer on 2007 06 04 at 02:46 PM • permalink


    1. Like I needed another reason to love Texas. Jules Crittenden referred to Aussies as Texans in shorts. I thought it was pretty accurate.

      Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 06 04 at 02:48 PM • permalink


    1. Next week Tutu flies to Spain for a dinner in his honour hosted by luxury goods manufacturer Louis Vuitton.

      Of course he is.

      Which trip to be “offset,” no doubt, by lining the Goracle’s pockets.

      Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2007 06 04 at 02:52 PM • permalink


    1. Gaiatheist: One who’s faith in the existence of an omnipotent environmental entity has been degraded by the inequitable and hypocritical actions by the leaders of the <s>Borg</s>faith.

      Posted by CB on 2007 06 04 at 02:57 PM • permalink


    1. Borg*perview,where art thou?*

      Posted by CB on 2007 06 04 at 02:59 PM • permalink


    1. “Next week Tutu flies to Spain for a dinner in his honour hosted by luxury goods manufacturer Louis Vuitton.”

      I don’t see where Tim Blair gets off criticizing a great man like Desmond Tutu just because he’s flying up to Valencia for the yacht races.

      Don’t you know how important trans-continental flights and yacht races are in the battle against Global Warming?  Besides, it’s a great morale builder for the little people, knowing that their great spiritual leader is looking out for their interests at the Americas Cup race.

      Shame on you, Tim.

      Oh, and btw, Desmond, why don’t you take some time off from gorging yourself on caviar, and watching those pretty sailboats while you’re over there in Valencia…and go fuck yourself.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 03:18 PM • permalink


    1. O/T, but a specialist in cryogenic bribery is about to find out that cold hard cash isn’t going to save him.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 03:26 PM • permalink


    1. #11:  Oh, that’s an easy one.  Get rid of the dams, then sit in the dark.

      Posted by Vexorg on 2007 06 04 at 03:39 PM • permalink


    1. #26 rwp:

      Yeah, except for LETTING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE THEIR GUNS! And their folded hats.

      But closer than most anywhere else.

      Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 04 at 03:57 PM • permalink


    1. New Little Ice Age Instead of Global Warming

      Disclaimer: I can’t comment on the science behind it.

      Posted by phil_b on 2007 06 04 at 03:57 PM • permalink


    1. #4, #5: Yes. We can give up the title any time we like—all we have to do is stop exporting energy to all those wonderfully squeaky-clean places (except Idaho, I think).

      And—it’s two o’clock sun time, three PM CDT, on June the 4th. Last year at this time we’d had a dozen hundred-degree (F) days and no rain for a month. Today it’s 79F (26 kg/m/sec^2), threatening rain, and yesterday morning we got three-quarters of an inch (approx. 1/32 ell) of precip in half an hour.

      Global warming. Bring it on, mfs.


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2007 06 04 at 04:11 PM • permalink


    1. Yay us Texans!

      This is MY carbon hoof divot:


      Posted by Hucbald on 2007 06 04 at 04:43 PM • permalink


    1. “Over in Norway, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu condemns climate change inactivists:”

      Norway?  That old boy surely does do some traveling.  Just a couple of months ago he had to miss the opening yacht races in Spain because he was sailing around the world on a cruise ship (enviromentally friendly cruise ship, I’m sure), and it was too much of a hassle to fly from Penang to Valencia.  Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, however, he was able to send a friendly letter to his favorite yacht team…via air mail.

      Life sure is a bitch when you’re a pious follower of Jesus, doing the Lord’s work…and saving the planet from overheating.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 05:26 PM • permalink


    1. I haven’t read the thread yet…

      Is it just me or are there other people out there who think that Desmond Tutu is a twit?

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 04 at 05:39 PM • permalink


    1. #34

      I’d quit worrying about little ice ages and start worrying about big ones.  We’ve been in an interglacial period for about 10,000 years now…and it looks like that’s getting close to the upper limit of how long they last.

      Over the last few million years, it looks like the earth’s climate cycles between long glacial periods and short interglacial periods (with the latter lasting from a few thousand to maybe 10,000 years, and the whole cycle lasting about 100,000 years).  The glacial periods are a good deal colder than the interglacial periods (roughly 10 degrees centigrade), so you can expect to see Canada and much of Europe covered in ice sheets (there’s a silver lining to every cloud).

      My best advice to everyone is:  invest heavily in overcoat stocks.

      Btw, this prediction is based on observed data…not on some cooked up U.N. “model”.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 05:41 PM • permalink


    1. “Is it just me or are there other people out there who think that Desmond Tutu is a twit?”

      Other than the fact that he’s a phony hypocrite, and a total waste of oxygen, I think he’s a great man.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 05:43 PM • permalink


    1. #40
      So perhaps “twit” is a bit mild?

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 04 at 05:51 PM • permalink


    1. Now that the Bishop Emeritus believes it, we just know global warming is a real threat.

      We also know it’s the trendiest bandwagon to be on at the moment.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 06 04 at 05:55 PM • permalink


    1. #36 Hucbald: Sweet!

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 05:57 PM • permalink


    1. I’d like to say case closed, but I understand that is Al Gore’s prerogative.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 06:05 PM • permalink


    1. Bring back Bruce Ruxton, who memorably described Desmond Tutu (on national TV) as a “bloody witchdoctor”.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 06 04 at 06:18 PM • permalink


    1. He needs to trade in his archbishop hat for this one.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 06 04 at 06:18 PM • permalink


    1. The major cause is the burning of high-carbon coal to produce cheap electricity.

      After I thought about it, I realized:  there are no coal mines in Texas that I know of.  That coal comes from somewhere else, so Texas is contributing to somebody else’s economy.  It’s shipped to Texas burned to produce cheap electricity, a major part of which is sold to other states, contributing both to Texas’ economy and other states’ economies.

      Other states such as Vermont emit less evil greenhouse gases and have to spend more money to do so.

      Because Vermont produces almost nothing except maple syrup and knit hats.

      The analysis cuts Texas some slack because some of the carbon dioxide comes from refineries used to process oil for the rest of the country

      And you’re welcome.  (Even though I don’t live there anymore)

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 04 at 06:18 PM • permalink


    1. In fact Tutu is a character who could only have been invented by Evelyn Waugh (especially the name!).  Perhaps the closest Waugh came was the African witchdoctor (and backyard abortionist) who is working for the MOD in the Sword of Honour trilogy, casting spells on Hitler from an office in Whitehall.  Perhaps His Grace would consider casting a few spells against global warming.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 06 04 at 06:24 PM • permalink


    1. Inventing a false sin is a sin.

      Can’t wait for the weekend, when I can get all wanton and destructive again.

      #34 phil_b – talk about a win-win situation for the Greenies. World warms up – we told you so! World cools down – millions die rapid population control.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 04 at 06:49 PM • permalink


    1. Tutu’s best interview here.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 04 at 07:12 PM • permalink


    1. So climate change inactivists, who probably don’t fly anywhere near as much as the believers, are still the ones that have to cut back on emissions?

      You can’t make this stuff up. But I leave it open to the floor to parody it.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 04 at 07:35 PM • permalink


    1. Tutu’s problem is his addiction to the adoration of the western media. He instinctively adopts the fashionable position on any issue as he pursues praise. The luxury lifestyle of the celebrity is just a bonus.

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 06 04 at 07:50 PM • permalink


    1. #40 – Other than the fact that he’s a phony hypocrite . . .

      Dave, I think he’s a genuine hypocrite; but phony in most other attributes.

      Posted by Bruce Lagasse on 2007 06 04 at 07:51 PM • permalink


    1. #49 Dminor

      Inventing a false sin is a sin.

      In my view, so is inventing a false pejorative descriptor like “climate change inactivist”,
      (I assume that Tutu invented it.)

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 04 at 07:51 PM • permalink


    1. “Dave, I think he’s a genuine hypocrite; but phony in most other attributes.”

      LOL.  I’d edit my comment so that it actually made sense, but this board has no edit feature.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 08:03 PM • permalink


    1. Ah, more bleating from the Al Sharpton of South Africa.

      Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 06 04 at 08:07 PM • permalink


    1. With reference to #7. What does that idiot think happens when you burn gas and the generation of CO2.
      I sometimes wonder if their speechwriters aren’t setting these people up. Surely, anybody with average scientific awareness would check these statements before standing up and repeating them to the rest of us. I have trouble accepting that these people are that stupid all the time.

      Posted by Turbine on 2007 06 04 at 08:13 PM • permalink


    1. #7- We had an old electric system in a cottage we were renovating in Toowong, which as per script shit itself and dropped its contents all over the place in the middle of winter. A commercial supplier of gas had a scheme whereby if you replaced an existing electric system with gas they’d supply and install for free- not a bad deal, and a means of promoting conversion. Only drawback was that gas hot water was hugely more expensive and pathetically less efficient than electric. I reckon they got their dosh back on the heater in two years with the inflated cost of supply. At least it was a commecial decision then, not one enforced by legislation, which seems the only answer government at any level in this popstand of a country can come up with- a pox on all their shit-stained souls, their descendants and antecedents.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 06 04 at 08:31 PM • permalink


    1. #’s 40, 41
      Tutu bemoans the plight of his poverty-stricken people in Soweto while he lives in luxury in a huge house paid for by his people.

      Posted by calliope on 2007 06 04 at 08:36 PM • permalink


    1. Yesterdays Australian had a letter thread which showed the true agenda of the moonpies driving the carbon cart- I can’t cut and paste as the page seems to be copy protected, so scroll down to the missive from one Steve Nuenhoffer from Newtown (where else)?

      No wonder the Greens are so popular with the (tofu) sausage eaters, they remind them of another party which promised them world domination on teutonic terms.

      (But how well does a Stuka or a Panzer 4 run on organic canola biofuel?)

      ein Planet, ein Biosphere, ein Fern Fuhrer!

      Posted by Habib on 2007 06 04 at 08:44 PM • permalink


    1. Why does whatever Tutu say get published like anyone gives a damn?  He stopped being relevant 20 years ago.

      His party got into power and continues to screw his population – crime is worse than ever before, let alone the economy. These (former) communists think to tell us about the dangers of climate change while they fly all over the world bemoaning our failure to make the necessary sacrifices.

      And isn’t it his churches policy to prevent the number one means of hindering aids spread, causing millions more of his “little” people to die?

      Re carbon emitting heros – good job!

      Posted by peter m on 2007 06 04 at 09:01 PM • permalink


    1. What’s the carbon footprint of those Soweto “necklaces” Winnie Mandela and her posse were handing out?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 06 04 at 10:22 PM • permalink


    1. #62: And it’s a homerun!

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 04 at 10:26 PM • permalink


    1. “So perhaps “twit” is a bit mild?”



      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 05 at 01:12 AM • permalink


    1. I am forever wary of those who champion sacrifice, but never tell us who is lined up to reap the benefits.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 05 at 01:29 AM • permalink


    1. #60 Habib —

      The Panzer IV, and indeed all WWII German tanks, were gasoline-powered, which makes butanol the only really suitable biofuel for running in them without extensive engine modifications.

      However, the modern German MBT, the Leopard 2, is a “multifuel” diesel design, which can burn just about anything (diesel, kerosene, gasoline, jet fuel), and so should be able to handle any sort of biodiesel just fine.

      Posted by Warmongering Lunatic on 2007 06 05 at 04:16 AM • permalink


    1. Can we give the award to Texas Bob?  He’s been serving the country–doing a fine job of it.  I’d say he’s qualified to act as a representative.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 05 at 05:54 AM • permalink


    1. I want to comment on Tim’s snarky aside re Tutu jetsetting around the Globe even as he denounces those who refuse to acknowledge global warming.

      Tutu, and most of his ilk, are condemning the refusal to believe, not refusal to act.

      Submit! Believe! Action (just now) is not important. You will receive your instructions in due course. Until then: Submit to the superior wisdom of the high priesthood.

      Posted by Rob Blair on 2007 06 05 at 06:22 AM • permalink


    1. #66 With refining, the majority of the machinery of war can be adapted to functioning efficiently and effectively on Soylent Green. It’s just the ambiguity of an Abrams smelling like patchouli oil as it belts past on it’s way to blowing something the fuck up.

      Posted by CB on 2007 06 05 at 06:41 AM • permalink


    1. Because Vermont produces almost nothing except maple syrup and knit hats.

      And commie ice cream. See here for an alternative. The Fightin Marine Tough Cookies and Cream is pretty good.

      Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 06 05 at 09:08 AM • permalink


    1. #70, rightwingprof:

      Know any tricks to find out what stores carry that product? It looks very interesting. I tried clicking on the “click here” widget for their store locations but nothing happened :/

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 05 at 09:56 AM • permalink


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