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Helen Caldicott wins a retrospective Nobel Prize, courtesy of the ABC:

Anti-nuclear campaigner Helen Caldicott has also attacked Dr Flannery’s article.

Speaking at the Byron Bay Writers Festival, the 1985 Nobel Prize winner says she wished Dr Flannery had been there as she would have loved to debate the issue with him.

Caldicott was merely a  member of an organisation that won the Nobel Prize in 1985. The ABC’s piece has since been updated.

(Via Michael K., who observes: “Philip Ruddock is a member of Amnesty International. They won a Nobel Prize too; I look forward to the ABC bestowing this recognition on our Attorney General.”)

Posted by Tim B. on 08/05/2006 at 11:51 AM
    1. More fake-but-true journalism.

      Did I mention that I won a Nobel Prize?  Yes, for promoting the arts through good grandparenting.  And my husband got a Nobel Prize for Duffer Golf.  And the neighbor won a Nobel Prize for Horticulture and Lawn Care.

      Well, maybe they were “Novel” prizes, not Nobel prizes.  Fake but true.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 08 05 at 02:38 PM • permalink


    1. Perhaps Dr Caldicott is trying to rectify her absence from this list.


      Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 08 05 at 06:29 PM • permalink


    1. People are being conflicted all over the place.
      Which is more justifiable out of the following:
      Human rights – don’t use “hulk” ships – or protection of the overfished species (aka the environment)?
      Nuclear Energy – bad, nasty, ban it – or protection of the environment?
      Killing Civilians – as a consequence of a war – or killing civilians wantonly to stop political reform in Iraq?
      Upholding Sovereignty – cornerstone of the UN – or allowing refugees to undermine western nations’ sovereignty?
      Support for Dictatorial regimes – or intervention to end them?
      Avoiding war at all costs, or come down hard on militias who arm themselves and start trouble?
      A UN with clout, or a talking shop who nobody (including Iran) complies with?

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 08 05 at 06:54 PM • permalink


    1. Helen Caldicott wins a retrospective Nobel Prize, courtesy of the ABC:

      There’s a Nobel Prize for being bat-shit insane?

      Posted by Craig Mc on 2006 08 05 at 07:31 PM • permalink


    1. Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize.

      I shudder to think how many ‘co-winners’ he has in Lakemba.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2006 08 05 at 08:30 PM • permalink


    1. For co-founding an organisation its probably fair to share in the credit if it wins the Nobel Prize.

      I think the Arafat one is the best put-down yet.

      Posted by ChrisPer on 2006 08 05 at 08:58 PM • permalink


    1. The left are clutching at straws more and more these days.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 08 05 at 11:28 PM • permalink


    1. Duck and cover can save your life whether it’s a conventional bomb or a nuclear bomb. Depends on how far away you are from the explosion.

      The people who ridicule those films as naive are the naive ones.

      Posted by zefal on 2006 08 05 at 11:54 PM • permalink


    1. Here’s an example of duck and cover in action.

      A bit farther away at 3.7 kilometers, a chief weather man for the Hiroshima District Weather Bureau named Isao Kita describes his experience:
      “Well, at that time, I happened to be receiving the transmission over the wireless. I was in the receiving room and I was facing northward. I noticed the flashing light. It was not really a big flash. But still it drew my attention. In a few seconds, the heat wave arrived. After I noticed the flash, white clouds spread over the blue sky. It was amazing. It was as if blue morning-glories had suddenly bloomed up in the sky. It was funny, I thought. Then came the heat wave. It was very very hot. Even though there was a window glass in front of me, I felt really hot. It was as if I was looking directly into a kitchen oven. I couldn’t bear the heat for a long time. Then I heard the cracking sound. I don’t know what made that sound, but probably it came from the air which suddenly expanded in the room. By that time, I realized that the bomb had been dropped. As I had been instructed, I pushed aside the chair and lay with my face on the floor. Also as I had been instructed during the frequent emergency exercises, I covered my eyes and ears with hands like this. And I started to count. You may feel that I was rather heartless just to start counting. But for us, who observed the weather, it is a duty to record the process of time, of various phenomena. So I started counting with the light flash. When I counted to 5 seconds, I heard the groaning sound. At the same time, the window glass was blown off and the building shook from the bomb blast. So the blast reached that place about 5 seconds after the explosion. We later measured the distance between the hypocenter and our place. And with these two figures, we calculated that the speed of the blast was about 700 meters per second. The speed of sound is about 330 meters per second, which means that the speed of the blast was about twice as fast as the speed of sound.”Link

      Posted by zefal on 2006 08 06 at 12:25 AM • permalink


    1. My understanding is that Phil Ruddock probably deserves the epithet of Nobel Prize winner more than Caldicott, because Caldicott was not a member of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War when they were awarded the prize. Caldicott had a falling out with the organisation.

      Interesting that you rarely here International Atomic Energy Agency and Nobel Peace Prize winner in the same breath, but the truth is that the IAEA have done more for global peace through their program of safeguards than any multitude of Caldicotts.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 08 06 at 12:37 AM • permalink


    1. Another wanting to believe is Red Bazza (Mark Latham’s driver) Cassidie,urbane host of ABC Inciters…
      Today they featured “SURPRISE”.. Matt Price,Lenore Taylor mild mannered F.R. reporter and Gerard Henderson.
      First up however was ABC rep Jim Middletum-not in his role as panel opinion commenter but in his role as media monitor,a spot usually occuoied by Paul Kelly.I’m sure he was able to suspend his left tilting in the usual ABC manner -rigidly principled and rigourously middle of the line in the unbiased stakes…not.
      Then Cassidie interviewed Attorney General Philip Ruddock on Hesbollah.
      Cassidie baulked at the idea that would be contributors to charity should have to work out whether said charity was also a terrorist group.Becoming hot under the collar,Red Bazza wondered if any Libs had objections to policies such as offshore detention -had they “discussed it”.No they hadn’t.He was not happy with the idea of “prison ships”-“how do they have access to their HUMAN RIGHTS?” and “You don’t see any potential for human rights issues?”.
      They discussed the “issue” of the Leadership
      “After all the BLOODLETTING of the past two weeks how can things go as usual?’.

      Posted by crash on 2006 08 06 at 01:49 AM • permalink


    1. Con’t Red Bazza then talked of the Bomber visiting aboriginal communities (what an original idea at this time? and how if he “got the keys to the Lodge he supposed” maybe he could turn it all around in 6 years.He spoke of how John Howard “dragged the Akubra out of the cupboard in his role of man of the people”.In talking pics with Andrew Meares S.M.H., talk then veered to how the P.M.’s wife “had great influence on her husband”,Judy Moylan and Petro Georgio,the next leadership of the A.LP (membership)-Cassidie’s comment “democracy doesn’t work in the Palestinian Territories”.
      Same old,same old.Watch out for Four Corners however….this coming week.

      Posted by crash on 2006 08 06 at 02:14 AM • permalink


    1. The ABC’s piece has since been updated.

      Actually, not all of it.  Still in the sidebar at 6.30pm AEST for “Related Audio” is:

      Helen Caldicott, winner of the 1985 Nobel Peace prize, has criticised an article by Tim Flannery suggesting nuclear power could be a solution to global warming

      I wouldn’t care so much except my taxes pay for this …. incompetence or lying, I can’t decide which.

      Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 08 06 at 04:49 AM • permalink


    1. Incompetent lying. That’s what shits me the most about the Caldicotts and Flannerys of the world.

      Posted by CB on 2006 08 06 at 07:59 AM • permalink


    1. I suggest this site awards Nobbled Prizes.
      Australian Nominations:
      1. Helen Caldicott for nobbling nuclear facts.
      2. Terry Lane for being nobbled by a well-known hoax.
      3. Our Black Armband Historians for nobbling the facts about our past, and unsuccessfully trying to nobble their exposer, Keith Windschuttle.
      4. Tim Flannery for many nobbled facts in most of his boooks

      Posted by Barrie on 2006 08 06 at 09:10 AM • permalink


    1. 15 Bravo, Barrie! The “Nobbled Awards” – excellent!

      Posted by paco on 2006 08 06 at 12:26 PM • permalink


    1. Did the ABC run a Photoshopped picture of her receiving the award, via Reuters?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2006 08 06 at 02:08 PM • permalink


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