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Without actually realising it, Susan Sarandon understands why the US re-elected George W. Bush:
“There was no reason for Hillary Clinton, for instance, to vote (for the war), for John Kerry to vote, they were protecting their reputations. They crumbled under the pressure and it was a very lonely, very scary time to ask a question. That’s a horrible condition to exist in a democracy.”
Not a good time to elect someone unable to resist the mere domestic pressure exerted by Frowny McWalkoff. How might crumbly Kerry have coped with, say, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
UPDATE. An email arrives from Senator Bob Kerrey:
Dear Friend,
When we were in the Senate together, John Kerry and I shared a lot more than a last name.
Senator, you didn’t, and you don’t.
- Susan Sarandon says that Hillary Clinton is “a politician like everyone else.” So, everybody who initially supported the war is a “politician”, whereas everybody who opposed it was . . . what, exactly? A statesman? A saint? A citizen celebrity with a pristine moral conscience? The ratio of inane utterances to IQ is approaching infinity in Sarandon’s case.Posted by paco on 2006 05 01 at 12:38 PM • permalink
- She seems to make a good argument for not electing people who can’t make a difficult decisionPosted by Quidnunc Savant on 2006 05 01 at 12:51 PM • permalink
- “When we were in the Senate together, John Kerry and I shared a lot more than a last name.”
. . . and, well, a lot more than a beer. And, well, a lot more than just an occasional ride to work together, early in the morning. And, well, a lot more than some nice little cozy home-cooked meals. And, well . . . , just a lot more, o.k.?
What’s he getting at?
- Hmmm.
What’s he getting at?
Curtains and a certain bridal registry at Macy’s perhaps?
That’s a pretty creepy thought. And not one conducive to happy post-lunch digestion.
Posted by memomachine on 2006 05 01 at 01:23 PM • permalink
When we were in the Senate together, John Kerry and I shared a lot more than a last name.
Coming next year: Brokeback Senate
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 01 at 01:49 PM • permalink
- I watched the Dinner on C-SPAN (in fact, I tivo’d it) and I’m frankly amazed at these claims that President and Mrs Bush were put out by Colbert’s remarks.
The President was truly very funny in his self-effacing performance; I thought Colbert’s remarks generally funny but not his best and the video he presented of being stalked by haggard old Helen Thomas simply went on too long.
At the end of the evening, anyone can see Bush shaking hands with Colbert and smiling like a good sport and Colbert paused with Mrs. Bush where they smiled at each other, nodding.
Colbert’s sense of humor simply went over the heads of many of the pressie types. But then, his sense of humor isn’t for everyone.
The lefties in the blogosphere claiming this as some sort of victory are beyond parody.
- Susan Krugman Sarandon also just pontificated on the disastrous state of the US economy. I guess her maid didn’t tell her stocks were at 6 yr highs, unemployment was 4.7%, spring quarterly growth was the highest in 3 years, or that the deficit was not remarkable as a % of the GDPPosted by beautifulatrocities on 2006 05 01 at 05:22 PM • permalink
- #s 3-7 Guys, not first thing in the morning, please. I nearly choked on my hot chocolate!
Well put.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 05 01 at 05:59 PM • permalink
- “desperately trying to be relevant to a new generation”
#15 RebeccaH – That self-centered loser wasn’t relevant to the old generation.
Another legend in her own mind.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2006 05 01 at 07:32 PM • permalink
- Well, they both liked to shoot civilians, does that count?
And Sarandon reminded me of Senator Rockefeller’s snivel that Bush “used psychological pressure” to make him vote for the war…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 01 at 08:11 PM • permalink
- john kerry and bob kerrey spent the same amount of time (3 months roughly) in Vietnam and have the same accurate (as in inaccurate) recall as the other.
john remembers stuff that didn’t happen and bob can’t remember stuff that did happen on one of his first missions that he won a silver star for.
So, I think it’s an accurate statement on the part of gimpy.
- Maybe they shared bodily fluids.Posted by Karl Fidel Adams-Kingston on 2006 05 01 at 09:06 PM • permalink
- Not everyone on the left was enamored of Colbert’s performance. Bet this guy is a barrel of laughs at parties:
Colbert just raised the same old bogus PseudoLeft issues
Posted by: cry0fan on May 1, 2006 1:10 PM [Report this comment]I read a transcipt of Colbert’s little speech. And it sickens me to see the American “netroots” Left so excited about this nonsense. Where did Colbert talk about progressive taxation? About universal healthcare? About mass immigration driving down wages? About longterm unemployment payments? About welfare for all adults who need it? About making sure every working American gets 6 weeks vacation a year? About raising the minimum wage to $10?
THESE ARE THE TRUE LEFT ISSUES! Not the red state vs blue state issues Colbert addressed!
Build a leftist focus on bread and butter populist economics issues, otherwise there is no true left, only a pseudoLeft.
The pseudoLeft echo chamber is clearly controlled by the Overclass Yuppies who do not need to worry about such mundane matters.
These people are traitors to the Left, in my opinion….
Quick, name Sarandon’s last hit. No? Okay then, name the last movie she appeared in. Anybody?
Did they share a smile and a coke spoon?
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 05 02 at 12:58 AM • permalink
- Senator Kerrey (with an ‘e’) gets a pass from me as a Medal of Honor recipient.
Sometimes a man’s courage can outweigh his intellect.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 05 02 at 02:26 AM • permalink
- “Colbert just raised the same old bogus PseudoLeft issues
Posted by: cry0fan on May 1, 2006 1:10 PM [Report this comment] I read a transcipt of Colbert’s little speech. And it sickens me to see the American “netroots” Left so excited about this nonsense. Where did Colbert talk about progressive taxation? About universal healthcare? About mass immigration driving down wages? About longterm unemployment payments? About welfare for all adults who need it? About making sure every working American gets 6 weeks vacation a year? About raising the minimum wage to $10?
THESE ARE THE TRUE LEFT ISSUES! Not the red state vs blue state issues Colbert addressed!
Build a leftist focus on bread and butter populist economics issues, otherwise there is no true left, only a pseudoLeft.”I dunno, I thought this was pretty funny.
OTOH, isn’t Colbert a comedian of some sort? Can anyone honestly think a comedian would stand up and say, “The minium wage must be raised to $10 an hour!” and…no, wait, people would actually laugh at him.
- I am somewhat surprised at that comment, Saltydog (#27)
Do you mean that all those awarded the MoH are not worthy of our respect, or allowed an occasional “pass” in public life?I have the utmost respect for the recipients of the MoH, but again I state, “sometimes a man’s courage outweighs his intellect”
Ther are many so called “intelligentsia”, there are few MoH recipients.
I know who I would rather rely on.Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 05 02 at 01:48 PM • permalink
- #32. Pedro,
I apologize for not being clear. I meant to say that I would never ignore a MoH winner, even if it turned out to be someone like Kelley. Your statement about courage over intellect is spot on.
It is rather like how I feel about John McCain. I lost a someone over North Viet Nam at about the same time McCain went down. I have a very hard time with my negative feelings about McCain because of my feelings about his years as a POW. It is sometimes hard to separate the respect I have for an accomplishment made in the face of extreme adversity, and the disrespect for what one has done while using that accomplishment.
And this is where all similarity of feeling stops where Kerry – without an “e” – is concerned. I never felt anything but a deep and abiding contempt for him and everything he’s ever done or stood for. I nursed a lot of the injured in that war; guys whose stories and broken bodies made me weep in the night. For Kerry to use his Purple Hearts to get out of the war, for injuries that didn’t require so much as a bandaid, and with a speed that puts Superman to shame, makes me see red. I mean literally to see red. His actions after he came home only brightened the color. I’ve felt this way since he went before Congress in 1972. His run for the presidency just about killed me.
- Thank you for that, Saltydog.
I know where you are coming from.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 05 02 at 10:43 PM • permalink
- “It is sometimes hard to separate the respect I have for an accomplishment made in the face of extreme adversity, and the disrespect for what one has done while using that accomplishment.”
#33 Saltydog—This is exactly the description I’ve been looking for!
I know many good and true American Heroes who seem to have gone off the beam in their politics, a la John McCain. Now I know that it isn’t just me, and it isn’t just him. I respect them for what they did, but I do NOT have to agree with what they say now just because of their past behavior.
- Saltydog, Pedro, et al…
Sadly, physical courage does not automatically infer moral courage.
Sadly, moral courage does not automatically infer virtue. There were plenty of sonderkommando and Khmer Rouge of unwavering moral courage, but they were never right.
You’re only as virtuous as your last moral choice.
Kerry, Kerrey, McCain, Cunningham all lose.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 03 at 11:30 AM • permalink
Sadly, physical courage does not automatically infer moral courage.
Tut tut, Mr McEnroe, tut TUT. What physical courage does not do is to imply moral courage, not to make inferences about it. tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk, I’m just glad Ensign Wrongway didn’t see this.
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 05 04 at 03:31 PM • permalink
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