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Webdiary’s happy-go-lucky Hamish Alcorn:

John Howard is the enemy of my culture, and of every other besides.

That’s why Australians elected Howard four times; we hate all cultures, including our own, and wish upon them complete destruction. Why, we’d vote for Morbo if we could.

Posted by Tim B. on 11/13/2005 at 02:57 PM
    1. So JH is Ham Alcorns antiseptic? – wot next!

      Posted by rog on 11/13 at 03:53 PM • permalink


    1. Geez, that’s a bit harsh from Mr Alcorn. Aren’t the family Alcorn into big statements?

      By the way, when he speaks about “my culture” is he referring to our culture as Australians or the culture of people who spend their lives being neurotic about the PM?

      Readers from overseas should know that not all Aussies who don’t vote Liberal are so obsessive and weird about the Government.

      I am worried about the IR changes, but generally I think they are doing a pretty good job. I also respect the will and intelligence of the electorate. Errr, I used to be a member of the ALP, so say what you like about my intelligence.

      Posted by Darlene Taylor on 11/13 at 03:53 PM • permalink


    1. According to the left, John HoWARd was elected four times because of interest rates.  And worries about the economy.  And maybe fuel capacities of Holdens.  And kangaroos and koala bears.

      Not because of the voters rejection of the ALP and the Greens.  NO!

      Posted by wronwright on 11/13 at 04:27 PM • permalink


    1. And why shouldn’t we vote for Morbo?  At least HE doesn’t make stories up based on fake memos, unlike some other puny human anchormen.

      Posted by Sortelli on 11/13 at 04:30 PM • permalink


    1. #2 the only way to judge the IR changes is to see them in action once implemented……and then see which side of politics is correct in their statements.

      Posted by vinny on 11/13 at 04:40 PM • permalink


    1. The importance of the individual can be overstated. It is fair enough to point out that returned soldiers should be looked after, but quite a leap to the ultimate platform of the left, that what is wrong with the world is all the fault of imperialism or colonialism, and big business.
      In the current context, there does need to be more meaningful work available for those who do not fit the pattern of office or IT or Finance (or things other than manufacturing – now a shrunken remnant in our country and many others).
      Damage is being done in France and elsewhere by those who learned nothing, nothing at all at school. Would they rise to meet the challenge if the government there found jobs for them? Or is it yet another case of irretrievable alienation for cultural reasons?
      It is not good enough to say that blood might stain the wattle and it is all John Howard’s fault.

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/13 at 04:41 PM • permalink


    1. Man, it really is Aria da Capo over there; they sit around, playing their self-involved little games, completely ignorant of the corpses that result…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/13 at 05:20 PM • permalink


    1. That’s interesting. Hamish regards John Howard as the enemy of the true Aussie values taught to him by his father. But wouldn’t Hamish have had the same father as Margo?

      Posted by Imre on 11/13 at 05:28 PM • permalink


    1. Morbo: “Morbo will now introduce tonight’s candidates. Puny human number one, puny human number two and Morbo’s good friend Richard Nixon.”
      Nixon: “Hello Morbo. How’s the family?”
      Morbo: “Belligerent and numerous.”
      Nixon: “Good man, Nixon’s pro-war and pro-family.”

      Vote Morbo!

      Posted by Pixy Misa on 11/13 at 05:49 PM • permalink


    1. But wouldn’t Hamish have had the same father as Margo?

      Its possible….maybe even the same mother….anything goes up in Mango land

      Posted by rog on 11/13 at 06:29 PM • permalink


    1. Somebody on Webdiary has culture?  Whodathunkit?

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 11/13 at 06:49 PM • permalink


    1. What? Howard didn’t lift a finger for Ned Kelly?

      Posted by The on 11/13 at 06:55 PM • permalink


    1. Can you imagine all the whingeing these kooks would do if right wing commentators went around referring to their polical opponents as “the enemy of my culture, and of every other besides”? You only have to disagree with some of their wilder claims for them to start screaming about how their dissent is being crushed.

      Posted by Ross on 11/13 at 07:26 PM • permalink


    1. Somebody on Webdiary has culture?

      Yoghurt has more culture than webdiary.

      /oldie but a goodie

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/13 at 08:10 PM • permalink


    1. Howard’s the enemy of Alcorn’s culture, sure.

      Alcorn just doesn’t realize he’s the enemy of our culture.

      Posted by Aaron – Freewill on 11/13 at 08:14 PM • permalink


    1. Imre, Papa Kingston shown here – on the right:

      Posted by der FRED on 11/13 at 08:18 PM • permalink


    1. I’m glad Hamish set me straight! Poor misguided me used to think that radical islam was the enemy of ‘my culture’.

      Posted by Deo Vindice on 11/13 at 08:41 PM • permalink


    1. #2. Darlene: “…I used to be a member of the ALP…”, does indeed say a lot about your character and intelligence, and it’s all good.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/13 at 09:14 PM • permalink


    1. Dont Alcorn and his ilk realise that many Australians regard him and his fellow travellers as the true enemies of our culture?

      Obviously not.

      Posted by dee on 11/13 at 09:15 PM • permalink


    1. Alcorn’s culture can’t be found anywhere outside of a petri dish. By the way, his moonbat fluid is redlining on the piezometer (ok, ok, I admit it; I just happened to come across “piezometer” while looking up “petri”).

      Posted by paco on 11/13 at 09:32 PM • permalink


    1. It fills me with rapturous delight that Hamish and his fatuous ilk are squirming with such self-loathing and hatred for their fellow countrymen.

      Almost sounds like a terrorist to me.

      As for being taught about Ned Kelly.  The message that we should be sending is that he was a violent thief and cop killing scum, who should’ve suffered the same fate as William Wallace instead of being deified as some Oirish martyr persecuted by the Australian English establishment.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 11/13 at 09:38 PM • permalink


    1. Being a clueless Yank, I confused Morbo with Modo and thought I was reading about the apocalyptic Bushworld that Australia, apparently, is. I’m so confused. All I know is that as long as Modo is in Oz, she won’t be here, and the whole country will be the better for it. Pretty O/T, I know. Had to say it, though. I’m too frightened of Morbo to say anything at all.

      Posted by ekw on 11/13 at 09:42 PM • permalink


    1. Slightly off topic?

      Has anyone ever met a happy, confident good looking leftist?

      Posted by BattlestarGallactica on 11/13 at 10:01 PM • permalink


    1. #23 I can think of a few, but are also filthy rich and either a sociopathic politician or an extremely naive artist/actor/celebrity.

      Posted by Sortelli on 11/13 at 10:07 PM • permalink


    1. BattlestarGallactica,

      With Margo as poster girl one could safely assume that to be akin to Occam’s Razor.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 11/13 at 10:09 PM • permalink


    1. I’ve known some really hot-looking ones, but they’re rarely happy, and they’re generally confident in direct proportion to the amount that they shouldn’t be.

      Posted by ekw on 11/13 at 10:13 PM • permalink


    1. Amish Acorn?

      Isn’t that a flavor of ice cream?

      /O&I alert.

      Posted by rinardman on 11/13 at 11:46 PM • permalink


    1. #23- well my wife votes Labor (is that a leftist?), and she’s happy, and gorgeous.  It seems to me that the need to pathologise those who oppose you is a form of sickness itself.  Lighten up, and vive le difference!

      Posted by slammer on 11/14 at 12:09 AM • permalink


    1. O/T-

      Islamic terror cell arrested in Australia-nuclear power plant the target-


      Posted by madawaskan on 11/14 at 12:40 AM • permalink


    1. The stupidity at that site continues to amaze me. I liked this unfortunate juxtaposition of leftist logic:

      I am an Australian, not just in the modern sense of the word but in the traditional, pre-multicultural – ok, bigoted – sense of the word. Here it means white, of mongrel stock but predominantly northern European with at least a solid dose of Celt (and not too much Pom).

      A young acorn does not a fall far from the tree of stupidity.
      And this from ‘Mad Marilyn’

      Have I earned money from advocacy? Have I just wilfully used children for political gain? No I bloody well have not.

      You are a disgrace to even suggest that I would. I am a nurse and child advocate.

      / snort of derision.

      Posted by Nic on 11/14 at 01:30 AM • permalink


    1. #30- in a comment on that thread Hamish sensibly advises one loopy Margonaut to pull his head in:

      “Please think these things through carefully. Dig your trenches carefully. Our values are currently more vulnerable than they have been for 50 or 60 years and they are in danger of becoming forever and tragically anachronistic.”

      Looks like Hamish can see the writing on the wall.

      Posted by slammer on 11/14 at 01:39 AM • permalink


    1. Have I just wilfully used children for political gain? No I bloody well have not.

      Yes, she bloody well does!

      — Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 11/14 at 01:40 AM • permalink


    1. #2 “…I used to be a member of the ALP.”

      This is akin to admitting you have recovered from the mental illness with which you were previously afflicted.

      My advice to you; make sure you don’t have a relapse!!

      Posted by TruthHandler on 11/14 at 01:44 AM • permalink


    1. .. #30.. they also like to keep debate open:
      “Margo: ….. Piss off Tim, and find a place you think is relevant. I won’t waste my time on you again.”

      Posted by duncanm on 11/14 at 02:11 AM • permalink


    1. Ok #34, I’ll match your piss of:

      How about going elsewhere – there’s lots of places available where you can predict the demise of Webdiary and have a laugh about it.

      Do you think the silly old cow means us? lol

      Posted by Nic on 11/14 at 02:33 AM • permalink


    1. Iused to vote A.L.P. too and that makes me a proud born again neocon which you,TruthHandler obviously ain’t.Kindly keep your advice for those who ask for it…

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 02:34 AM • permalink


    1. pimf-
      o/t speaking of hates —canadian commenter on Soccer in Uraguay this morning aired on abc…
      presenter “crowd was fairly well behaved but SOME were disappointed.”speaks to Canadian..
      “Yeah I’m from Canada and I was hoping to see more action from the Uraguayans..-people throwing garbage cans through windows or something”—and that was from a girl!

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 02:40 AM • permalink


    1. o/t ABC with Franny this morning-trusting that the proposed time limit on western troops in Iraq will “give hope to British war critics.”
      The anti republican book D.C. Confidential was promoted and “intelligent dating plus the SMH 175 anniversary.Present to discuss the “absolutely gorgeous book” were Tony Stephens and Insiders Pictures host Michael Bouwes.The book was,trilled an excited Fran,
      a Herculean effort,the SHEER longevity of it was the amazing thing and one contributor was David Marr.
      Fran”Indigenous people the Herald didn’t have much time for-people who killed them,the Herald wanted them killed -er not killed”.
      and “You were very fond of war stories.”
      Guest “the Herald sort of fancied itself as INTELLECTUAL in those days.”
      Franny “You didn’t like aboriginals”.”There was censorship by the government which the Herald RAILED against(during war time).Hmmm yes and now possibly with sedition laws…”
      Talk from the Herald journo about haitch,haitch Fishwyck.
      Fran cooing “it’s just beautiful,the whole things just beautiful-it really is fantastic”
      Plays german retro group.promos Life Matters-Today we have a Danish Buddhist married Llama and an AIDS activist who has AIDS and tomorrow we’ll be talking about marriages breaking up…

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 03:02 AM • permalink


    1. TruthHandler – wonderful input, and the mentally ill, of whom many are trying to save, quite literally – and mostly from people like you – will appreciate your dreadfully clever little quip and analogy.  Perhaps we can stick a rabid Jeff Kennett onto you.

      BTW – who do you think is voting in all those ALP State governments?  Is that all the “mentally ill” too?  And when the ALP, eventually, win a Federal election again, likely to be some time in this millenium, how will you explain that away in your little pee brain?

      Posted by Ck on 11/14 at 03:14 AM • permalink


    1. Still, now that the threat has come to Australia, it’s good to hear the ABC today being forced to talk about islamic terrorists undergoing weapons training for jihad, rather than talking about militants from the religion of peace engaging in a peaceful internal struggle. Also very refreshing to see 60 Minutes talking about “why we have to crack down on muslim extremists” rather than SBS-style newspeak about “civil unrest” among “French youths”. I used to be cynical about patriotism, but the more whining I hear from the likes of Hamish Alcorn and the more I hear our politicians saying “We will never be an islamic state”, the more I genuinely believe this country is the best place in the world to live.

      Posted by Jim Geones on 11/14 at 03:46 AM • permalink


    1. This is the person known as ‘truthhandler’?

      The link has been removed. The Management.

      Posted by Deo Vindice on 11/14 at 04:08 AM • permalink


    1. #33: Name removed– public servant- is a smartarse funded by aussie taxpayers.
      Memo to initials removed – dont use the public dime to advance your agenda. You’re paid to serve the public.
      Do it from your home email ok?

      This comment has been edited by the Management.

      Posted by Deo Vindice on 11/14 at 04:19 AM • permalink


    1. #30 – Nic – hell, all this time I thought looney toons Marilyn insisted that she was a seriously disabled pensioner.  Now she’s both a nurse and “child advocate” – whatever hell that may mean.

      Posted by Ck on 11/14 at 04:32 AM • permalink


    1. #40 JIm
      i’m entirely in agreement with that post!
      When i look back at the imbeciles in power in the UK , i thank my lucky stars that i made the move over here!
      (Harrassed Tony Blair excepted)

      Posted by davo on 11/14 at 05:07 AM • permalink


    1. How many of the margok ingson mob do you think are supping on the withered teat of the government they claim to despise?
      Bet its more than half.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 11/14 at 05:17 AM • permalink


    1. #43, Ck, I snorted when I read that. One minute she’s the Boadicea of the illegal immigrant lobby, next she’s Florence Nightingale.

      I suspect the nurse mantle comes from administering herself the occasional enema. At least it would explain the ‘brain washing’.

      Posted by Nic on 11/14 at 05:33 AM • permalink


    1. Nic – excellent; of course!!! I should have thought of that myself. Yes, indeed, I can see that self-administered enemas may lend one some sense of the nursing spirit.  Now I have to wonder how many enema & bile working hours she lists on her Centrelink form, not to mention the 12 hours a day spent working for Web Doily.

      Posted by Ck on 11/14 at 05:44 AM • permalink


    1. Margot – an enema of the people!

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/14 at 05:58 AM • permalink


    1. #48. Respect her authorita!

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/14 at 06:21 AM • permalink


    1. The Enema Within

      Posted by Abu Qa’Qa on 11/14 at 06:45 AM • permalink


    1. Laskar Etoiba???? Don’t know the spelling but it sounds something like that. Is that a hardline separatist group wanting to take over Kashmir or is it “something else”?

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 06:55 AM • permalink


    1. ABC news accomplishes the impossible by showing footage of tomorrow’s industrialations Big Day Out–tonight.

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 07:14 AM • permalink


    1. o/t France’s Le Figaro has invoked the “T” word,saying that insurgents are carrying out urban terrorism.

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 07:24 AM • permalink


    1. Ah yes, but let’s not forget the grievances of Morbo. They are many. However, he and his extraterrestrial followers will really like puny humans, just as soon as they get to know us.

      Why, they wouldn’t even have to invade at all.

      They could move right along over here Earthside, live with us and keep their culti-identity as they integrate. It’s one big ol’ apple pie universe don’t you know. Just get Nixon out of the way!

      Posted by splice on 11/14 at 09:09 AM • permalink


    1. My ‘culture’, other ‘cultures’.  Doesn’t that mean trying a new restaurant?

      Without the words ‘culture’, ‘text’ and ‘environment’ lefties might have to explain themselves.

      Posted by Inurbanus on 11/14 at 09:52 AM • permalink


    1. Off topic
      William F. Buckley on the car immolators:

      “It seems to me that a very hard dose of market discipline would distract the attention of the young revolutionaries from their frolics, traditional and otherwise, and my sense is that if they had to worry about how to eat, and buy food, they would stop screwing around and face reality. If these people didn’t wake up in the morning thinking about what cars to burn–instead of work–they might not be having these problems.”

      A lamentable lack of nuance.

      Posted by Inurbanus on 11/14 at 10:00 AM • permalink


    1. o/t Tony Delroy Late Night on local aunty chooses “sedition” as his topic of the day.
      Discusses with the converted how the laws will (if not misused now) be misused in the future to persecute innocent citizens -like national public broadcasters perhaps.

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 10:23 AM • permalink


    1. Crash
      the new sedition laws will make hopefully left wing journalists somewhat accountable for their words.
      Who would want to join the Australian armed forces and return from battle to be greeted by imbeciles who accuse you of brutalising pot plants whilst foiling the attempts of crazed shaheeds?
      Or promote Hicks as a national hero?

      Posted by davo on 11/14 at 04:06 PM • permalink


    1. On Ray Martin last night – results of a viewer poll regarding what Peter Costello said about people who want to live under Sharia and how they’d be happier elsewhere. 98% approved.

      Posted by Janice on 11/14 at 06:48 PM • permalink


    1. Yeah Davo -right on.Janice -you gotta worry about that two percent…
      Fran Kelly on abc radio nat this morning was traumatised by the idea of Royal Male lineage in Japan and the concept of using concubines to achieve a male heir.Haven’t heard her(squeaking) criticising or even addressing indigenous or other societies’ mistreatment of women in Australia .
      Meanwhile after ridiculing and denying the prospect of security or terror problems with Nuclear in Australia for years,this morning she vacantly ponders for a nanosecond–“next-how vulnerable is Lucas Heights….?”

      Posted by crash on 11/14 at 07:12 PM • permalink


    1. How strange.

      I read the comments on Margo’s site, particularly the “remember when…?” comment
      Other posters also started fondly reminiscing the olden days.

      I commented, that I was pleased to see that Webdiarists thought the 50’s were pretty damn good – like Howard apparently does.

      My comment never appeared on the site. I can’t imagine why not.

      Posted by SheikYerbouti on 11/14 at 07:57 PM • permalink


    1. O/T
      Five thugs arrested and charged with assault over attack of reporters outside court after arrest of suspected terrorist cell members in Sydney and Melbourne.
      Just on ABC news.

      Posted by kae on 11/14 at 08:05 PM • permalink


    1. This is hilarious. The guest extremist-apologist, Irfan Yusuf, headlining Kingston’s Piss off Tim thread, after suggesting all conservatives have poor writing skills and are prone to embarrassing themselves (well who isn’t?), puts together a bunch of infra-highschool sneers in an attempt to disparage Miranda Divine’s recent article on Costello’s comments and the subsequent hysterical reaction from the muftis, then pulls out his piece de resistance:

      Then Miranda comes up with the classic. Try not to fall off your chair as you read this …

      He spoke of ancient grievances, of Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and Bosnia.

      Miranda, which ancient grievance exists in Iraq? The one about when those nasty Mongols (my ancestors!) destroyed Baghdad some seven centuries ago? Did the Radovan Karadzic’s Serbs invade Bosnia on the way to fighting a crusade with Richard the Lionheart? Were the Russians part of the force that pushed the Prophet Muhammad out of his home city of Mecca fourteen centuries ago?

      Maybe it’s an ESL issue, but someone should point out to him that the conjunction of is not the same as in. The comma should have given Yusful Idiot a clue. He claims to be a lawyer.

      Posted by The on 11/14 at 09:17 PM • permalink


    1. #62.  Sounds pretty on-topic to me.  Good news in any case.  Thanks for posting.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/14 at 09:25 PM • permalink


    1. #62 Five charged 
      over court brawl
      From: AAP
      November 15, 2005

      FIVE men allegedly involved in a brawl with media outside the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court have been charged with affray.

      Posted by kae on 11/14 at 09:29 PM • permalink


    1. #63. I read it as, in effect, “he spoke about ancient grievances, he spoke about Iraq, he spoke about Afghanistan …”.  Seemed reasonable, but then I was never much at grammar.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/14 at 09:30 PM • permalink


    1. i can’t figure out what this guy is on about???  sounds like he is a bit “touched in the head” frankly, like most of these lefties… having a rant and rave over who knows what, just for the sake of it but somehow trying to weave Howard or Bush or their other Anitchrists into it somehow….

      Posted by casanova on 11/14 at 10:14 PM • permalink


    1. O/T

      In the union protests today – did my eyes deceive me or where there some BLF banners roaming around in the throng.

      Looks like they have turned up late for the job as usual, missing the chance to crash the Goughfest and administer some BLF nuances. It appears that they have not lost their form in all this time.

      Posted by rbresca on 11/14 at 10:47 PM • permalink


    1. OT, the ABC says 200,000 people turned up to the demonstration in Melbourne, Channel 9 says 50,000.

      Obviously the Lancet does the ABC’s crowd estimates.

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/14 at 10:58 PM • permalink


    1. What struck me was the phrase “… and of every other …”

      Think about that.  Every other culture.  Every single one!

      Imagine how much work it would take just to identify the characteristics of every other culture, much less be opposed to them all.  Howard must be a busy man.

      “Okay, who’s next?  Manicheans?  Pessimistic believers in a dualistic deity who believe that the world is a struggle between good and evil?  Nope, I’m against that.

      Mormons?  19th Century Christian offshoot which favors polygamy?  Nope, I’m against that.

      Muslims?  Say no more ….”

      Posted by JayC on 11/14 at 11:07 PM • permalink


    1. JayC — And don’t forget the Huegenots.  Practically mandatory!

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/14 at 11:25 PM • permalink


    1. Looks like some kindly school teacher has corrected the comma-of misunderstanding. And of course it’s a preposition, not a conjunction. I think.

      Posted by The on 11/14 at 11:29 PM • permalink


    1. #36 crash. Apologies if you took offence. Unsolicited advice is one of my many specialities so if you don’t mind too much I will continue to offer it up when I feel it neccessary to do so. By the way, your own recovery seems to be going very well – keep it up.

      #39 Ck. I’m really not too sure. Mentally challenged?? Let’s face it, we’re all prone to the odd brain explosion, aren’t we? How else would you describe those that voted for Mark Latham?

      #41 Deo Vindice. Who’s a clever fellow then? Please tell me where it was that you honed your investigative skills. The FBI? The CIA? Scotland Yard? I must say it looks a hell of a lot more like the work of Insp. Clouseau to me. Send my regards to Cato.

      Posted by TruthHandler on 11/14 at 11:42 PM • permalink


    1. #69 on crowd numbers in Melbourne, Fairfax is currently reporting the Police estimate as 150,000; ACTU 200,000.  At the same time, the number they give for Sydney is a measly 30,000.  Strange disparity, or maybe it’s just that surf’s up on Bondi.

      Posted by cuckoo on 11/15 at 12:16 AM • permalink


    1. At the risk of being consigned to the fool’s corner, are these demonstrators angry unionists or are they people demanding that the police arrest these thugs?

      Posted by ekw on 11/15 at 12:34 AM • permalink


    1. Mr. or Miss Vindice, I have no idea what prompted you to act in such a fashion as you did in the two linked comments, and I have no idea why Truthhandler’s rather innocuous jape caused you to attack him/her with such vindictiveness, but you will kindly refrain from such behavior in future or your membership will be banned. “Uncovering” the true identities of commenters who displease you should remain a scurvy trick of hypocritical leftists. In any case, your Sherlock Holmes act would be more convincing if you didn’t do it from the cover of a fake name yourself. (And no, I do not believe that “Deo Vindice” is a real name.)

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 11/15 at 12:53 AM • permalink


    1. #73Accepted TruthHandler,thank you
      #61 Did they talk about white picket fences but?
      Very significant.
      I eagerly await the follow on in depth historical science programme from the abc or beeb,explaining what happened to them.

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 01:07 AM • permalink


    1. OT: Why is Tim not posting much today or yesterday? Is he down at the IR rally perhaps?

      Andrew Bolt has gone quiet as well (travelling) and I am suffering a withdrawal from commonsense journalism.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 11/15 at 01:10 AM • permalink


    1. o/t ABC which has been screaming about the perfidy of the AWB in Iraq for a week (probably contributing to us losing the wheat contract subsequently)–trumpeting the idea today that the Wicked Americos are conspiring in the investigation to steal our wheat market.Which we’ve already lost,thanks in part probably to them….

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 01:14 AM • permalink


    1. er … aunty that is..

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 01:16 AM • permalink


    1. Mad Marilyn quoted as saying, “…I am a nurse …”

      This explains much. Nursing, in Australia, is one of the last bastions of hard left unionism. Most nurses are public servants. Most nurses are unworldly and work in a protected, regulated environment with jobs for life. For the most part they just do not have a clue about business or ‘the real world’. A vital, caring profession all the same.  Nursing historically (and still is) has been the route by which working class women of modest ability raise their social status.

      Today I visited the Repatriation Hospital, Heidelberg, on business and found it very quiet. No gate guards, few staff around, and many services offices closed. There was a notice on the mail room, “Closed due to industrial action”. I appended “Pathetic”and left.

      Posted by walterplinge on 11/15 at 01:53 AM • permalink


    1. #78- No doubt Tim’s still getting over his 12-post effort on Sunday.

      Posted by slammer on 11/15 at 01:55 AM • permalink


    1. #81- hey before you abuse, criticise and accuse, walk a mile in their shoes…

      Posted by slammer on 11/15 at 01:57 AM • permalink


    1. Didn’t the buhhdists build that big carved statue in the side of a mountain of Buhhda in Afghanistan many centuries ago, that the Taliban then blew up in Bubiyan (or however its spelt) when they were in power??

      Demonstrating once again how tolerant of difference and diversity their RoP really is… you can imagine what would happen here if we tried anything remotely similar….  or even looked the wrong way at one of their mosques….

      Posted by casanova on 11/15 at 02:00 AM • permalink


    1. O0ps. Bad beer – Apologies to all concerned.

      Posted by Deo Vindice on 11/15 at 02:03 AM • permalink


    1. TruthHandler – There is zero correlation between any mental illness and stupidity.

      Apart from that, just because a person disagrees with another, over any topic, doesn’t automatically mean the other person is stupid, or ignorant – they might be both, but to assume that as a given is, well, rather stupid.

      Walterplinge – interesting comments about nursing, and mostly correct, sociologically, but it has shifted significantly, in that medical technology now places far greater demands on nursing abilities than was the case some decades ago; it’s no longer the fall back choice of the less gifted, shall we say, rather, I would guess that intellecutal requirements are now very demanding.  Many dozens of other “fall back” positions exist for women, such as telephone cleaners, hairdresser, manacurist, call centres, school teacher, etc.

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 02:15 AM • permalink



      Quick, where’s his liquor cabinet?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/15 at 02:32 AM • permalink


    1. Not exactly off topic, but am disturbed, very, very disturbed by this comment on Web Doily, a place to which I have not ventured for quite a long time.  This is an extract from a comment by one Sienna Bootman:

      “And what an excellent point regarding the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela. Just because they have had difficulties with the authorities it doesn’t give us the right to judge them as mass murderers, and the same courtesy should be extended to Osama Bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.”


      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 02:38 AM • permalink


    1. Ck

      That is truly a huge WTF? moment. This defines what we mean by “moonbat.”

      Posted by ekw on 11/15 at 03:01 AM • permalink


    1. CK, EKW — Didn’t you see the Tobe Hooper Movie they made about the Dalai Lama? The Tibet Chainsaw Mandala?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/15 at 03:08 AM • permalink


    1. Oh, you mean the Tibet T-Saw Mandala? Yeah. I saw that! Soooo scaaary! It was about these union guys, headed by this one guy named T-Saw, and they were in Nepal working on the Dalai Lama’s house only they weren’t working ‘cause they were union guys, see, so the Dalai Lama calls Nelson Mandela to see if he can get these guys to do some work only Mr. Mandela begs off telling Mr. Lama, sorry, but I had these guys down here in Joberg where they were supposed to fix my plumbing only they all got sick and had to lie down for two weeks at full pay…is that the movie you mean, Rich?

      Posted by ekw on 11/15 at 03:26 AM • permalink


    1. I think Hamish will find the enemy of his culture if he just looks beyond the end of his nose.

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/15 at 04:00 AM • permalink


    1. Hmmmm!
      try this then

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/15 at 04:01 AM • permalink


    1. take your tiny urls and shove them

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/15 at 04:02 AM • permalink


    1. Ah, so you’re a biggest!!  Your URL is sooo much bigger than mine, hey?

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 04:06 AM • permalink


    1. #88, now thats a an example of moonbattery. As awful as it sounds its a pity that terrorist targets are invariably stations that affect working people and so on rather than the patch the silly bint who made that comment, sprang from.

      I’m starting to warm to jihad in say, Balmain, Newtown and Smith St Collingwood, what the heck, make it all of Collingwood.

      Posted by Nic on 11/15 at 05:05 AM • permalink


    1. #83, slammer

      before you abuse, criticise and accuse, walk a mile in their shoes

      I’ll buy that, having done nursing before I did medicine.

      Most nurses are ordinary, decent women who are trying to make a living caring diligently for the sick and infirm while being treated like shit by their superiors (and I’m not talking about doctors but about the nursing bureaucracy).  On the other hand the TER score to get into nursing is not exactly high.  It’s about the same as allows people to get into teaching and science.

      But let’s get back to the shitty nursing bureaucracy.  These tend to be the ones who didn’t leave the profession to look after their own children for a while.  Probably because they didn’t have any.  Perhaps for sexual preference reasons?  Not that there’s anything wrong with that.  Of course not.  In any case I have vivid memories of husband and wife nurses in which, for months, one was rostered for days and the other for nights even though their marital status was well known, or maybe because their marital status was well known.  Who knows what motivates the nasty among us?

      Anyway, many nursing higher ups are radical femnazis who assume that all doctors are men and they’re not going to be a ‘handmaiden’ to any of them, nosireee.  See the recent fuss in NSW over birthing centres being sited away from hospitals where nasty doctors prowl the corridors and may offend women who don’t want men hanging around when they’re delivering their babies. You can look up the links for that yourselves.  You might also look for papers written by nursing academics and subsequently be amazed at the appalling waste of both trees and pixels.

      I think the thing that made me saddest about most nurses was their attitude to female doctors.  It’s like you’ve betrayed the tribe or something.  They’ll perform their normal duties when the doctor is a bloke but if you’re female and they call you to the ward, e.g., to put up a drip, you’ll find yourself having to do their job of setting up the tray as well as your own job of actually putting in the drip and seeing that it’s going properly.  Even now I wonder whether, if I’d been a male, those two nurses on night duty in Cas would have done as I’d asked them and put that young drunk into the coma position and kept him there.  As it was they wouldn’t get up out of their chairs so I shoved him over by myself and then I had to leave.  He later rolled back, vomited, inhaled his vomitus, got aspiration pneumonia and died.

      For years I wondered if it was just me.  But about a month ago I met another female doctor whose mother had also been a doctor and who had warned her about nurses’ attitudes to female doctors.  Wish someone had warned me.

      Well, I’m out of it.  Can’t be bothered with tears and smears any more.

      Posted by Janice on 11/15 at 05:52 AM • permalink


    1. #97
      Oh Janice, I’m sorry that’s been your experience in medicine.

      I’m even sadder to acknoweldge what you say is completely true. I’ve heard similar stories about nurses.

      — Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 11/15 at 06:24 AM • permalink


    1. o/t Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet bombed in Pakistan -many injuries..
      sbs Cutting Edge (knifing) about Lord Rove tonight and his twinning with the evil Bush.
      Don’t know who’s the more e-v-i-l (not).
      WRONWRIGHT where were you? Come to think of it where ARE you….

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 06:33 AM • permalink


    1. OT. D’OH! I just realised why the indoor play centre was so busy today – when we got there, only one table was available. I forgot about the rally.

      sbs news:ACTU reckons half a million people took part today. Channel 7 news was saying 150000 earlier.

      Soundbite: I’m just worried about the Americanisation of Australia.

      My response? Babe, you’d be better off worrying about the Islamisation of Australia.

      No doubt I’ll now get pilloried as a racist, but you get that.


      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 06:34 AM • permalink


    1. 86. Ck, as a fully qualified beauty therapist (non-practising) I resemble that remark! Admittedly, I was lucky in that we had two trainers – one for the actual ‘beauty stuff’ (facials, waxing and makeup, oh my!) and another for anatomy and physiology. The A&P trainer used to be with the RDNS as a teacher, so she made sure that we had a very thorough grounding in How Bodies Work.

      As for hairdressers… I confess. A lot of the hairdressers I’ve worked with on set give me the shits. They are so precious. Met one on sunday for a wedding trial, and she was 2 hours late for the job, then had the gall to ask the bride if she needed another makeup artist. All she managed to do was piss off the bride. LOL. I guess I should have used the airbrush.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 06:41 AM • permalink


    1. #99. Watching SBS/Cutting Edge whinning-on about Karl Rove – how gratifying was that to the inner sadist?  *Excellent*

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/15 at 06:43 AM • permalink


    1. Sorry for the ot ramble, but sbs news just had a piece on a couple of blokes on (US)ABC telling how they were beaten and threatened with mock executions while in US custody. I think they were in Iraq.

      I’d be frightened by a mock execution, too.

      Last thing I want is to be trapped in a cell full of starving plastic turkeys.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 06:43 AM • permalink


    1. Yup. I had that on in the background, too, Brett. Was great to see the Dark Master getting some well-deserved recognition.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 06:44 AM • permalink


    1. Chirac extends state of Emergency to 3 Months in news..
      Double suicide bombing in Iraq -NATO vehicle attacked.German peacekeeper killed.
      Many Iraqis killed, Nato force says they thwarted another attack……
      STUPID Kostakidis segue “and later in the news a novel by an Afghani author which has Hollywood EXCITED”.
      Followed by Bush down in U.S. popularity etc etc and North Korea says it doesn’t want any more food aid..
      Apparently they have had bumper harvests and lots more aid from S Korea and China.
      Downer fears a crisis.

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 06:45 AM • permalink


    1. crash, did you check out Chirac’s declaration that the unrest would be treated with ‘firmness, justice and in a way true to French values?’ (Not an exact quote, but near enough)

      That is my quote of the week!

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 06:49 AM • permalink


    1. Deb I just can’t take that language seriously and he’s about as firm and resolute as Bomber Beazley..
      # 105 What REALLY gets Kostakidis,Chen and co excited is a brisk suicide bombing that slaughters as many American,British or Aussie troops,in that order.SBS aside,ABC is similarly appreciative of carnage involving Western troops…If that don’t happen then a nice large chopper or military plane crash will jolly them along…They don’t mind a few Afghani or Iraqi deaths either if they’re on the “wrong” side..

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 07:08 AM • permalink


    1. That’s what I mean, crash. What exactly are French values? I nearly fell over I was laughing so hard!

      As for Chen and the rest, those moonbats are so skewed over to the left that there is no more balance. Do they actually read what they’re saying? Do they believe it? I guess they must, but I don’t understand how they can.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 07:15 AM • permalink


    1. Maybe they are in deadly earnest Nilknarf..
      LORD Chris Patten promotes his new book with a lot of tlc from Red Kezza.
      Patten was the star of the BBC doco on the Chinese takeover of Hong Kong of which he was Governor.They discuss how U.K. shouldn
      ‘t have joined Bush in Iraq.
      Kezza rolls him over and scratches his tummy….or was it mutual tummy rubs?

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 08:04 AM • permalink


    1. John Howard is the enemy of my culture, and of every other besides.

      Cullllturre….we need more culllture. One of lifes paradoxes; the people I’ve met met in life who seem the most cultured never mention the word. Yet the crudest and most vulgar boors go on about it endlessly.

      Posted by Arty on 11/15 at 08:09 AM • permalink


    1. Went to the beach today ( I am an old non-working bludger) Tuesday- union’s IR protest day. 34 boat trailers parked in the car park, more than usually there on weekends.

      “Solidarity, Brothers!- Pink snapper for the workers!!”

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 11/15 at 09:18 AM • permalink


    1. crash ‘ that wasnt a tummy he was rubbing…

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 11/15 at 09:34 AM • permalink


    1. WRONWRIGHT where were you? Come to think of it where ARE you….

      I’ve been hanging out at Tim Dunlop’s place.  He moved back to Australia (yes, one down, and MoDo will make two!) and he bought new cushy wingback chairs.  Of course the left wing seems to be quite a bit bigger than the right wing, but I don’t mind.  He’s been serving finger sandwiches and they’re pretty good.  I hope the lefties there don’t mind me eating 30 or 40 of them a time.

      Boy, I tell you what, he usually gets maybe 2 or 3 comments.  But post a casual comment that you think George Bush might go down in history as the 5th best US President and the comment meter goes WAY UP.

      Posted by wronwright on 11/15 at 10:16 AM • permalink


    1. #77, crash, just a little historic note:  You are speaking of the Bamiyan Buddhas, 1500 year old sculptures carved out of a cliffside, dynamited by the Taliban.  The tribes of what’s now called Afghanistan were actually Buddhist centuries ago, until the holy warriors of Islam moved in and forcibly converted, or killed, everyone.  Business as usual, and a lesson to all.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 11/15 at 10:29 AM • permalink


    1. Futurama is my favourite cartoon and Morbo is my favourite bit character of all time! Can’t believe someone agrees…yay for!

      Posted by James Waterton on 11/15 at 10:31 AM • permalink


    1. Modo comes to Oz….Tim goes missing….
      Coincidence? I think not!

      Posted by Quentin George on 11/15 at 04:05 PM • permalink


    1. Can anyone give us the story of what’s really going down at Boeing in NSW?

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/15 at 04:27 PM • permalink


    1. Since we’re all over the place topic-wise:

      It seems we’re wrong in assuming Tuesday’s snapper-fishing sessions were in protest of the new IR laws. According to the Australian Industrial Relations Commission (in its last-gasp ruling) it was a vital information-gathering session.

      Late on Monday, commissioner Brendan Eames dismissed a plea from multinational food processor McCain Foods, saying it was “proper and vital” that workers attend the rally so they could become “fully informed of the proposed changes”.

      I’m not sure why all this information couldn’t have been written down and read in non-working hours, but at least I can rest assured that the information disseminated at the rallies must have been rich in detail, factual and totally balanced.

      Posted by The on 11/15 at 04:42 PM • permalink


    1. #118 – I read that too and was just staggered.  It’s another reason why (as if any more are needed) the IRC is going to be knackered. Permanently.

      Posted by walterplinge on 11/15 at 04:51 PM • permalink


    1. John Howard is the enemy of my culture, and of every other besides.

      Since this looks like an open thread, let’s look at another ‘cultural leader’:
      ‘Peace Partner’ Abbas
      Palestinian [Authority] President Mahmoud Abbas has accused Israel of trying to avoid peace talks and push Palestinians into civil war by insisting that militants be disarmed ahead of any negotiations on statehood.
      Mr Abbas says Israel is acting as though it has “no peace partner”.
      “Our real battle revolves around creating this state according to our conditions and not of those of the occupation,” he said.

      So Abbas doesn’t mind de facto civil war in his midst if Israel turns its back too.
      Ditto, the unlamented Arafat’s ‘policy’.

      His ‘own conditions’ are a state full of armed religious extremists with murderous actions against any ‘peace partner’ and future neighbour.
      And blame the neighbour for all this.

      I seem to recall Britain taking a lot of interest in Northern Ireland IRA disarmament, and Eire looking on symphetically, because it knew the IRA also wanted to take them over after NI.

      Posted by Barrie on 11/15 at 06:07 PM • permalink


    1. Wron were there LEFT-overs..Thanks Rebecca H-these were new discovery I heard on the news..
      Franny this morning on your abc “Since the Howard government came in (?Asean,Apec???couldn’t hear)has lacked a bit of push”-
      Guest Dr Malcolm Cook “No that’s not right Fran..”
      and “Republicans in U.S. feeling FEAR about Iraq”
      Hey feel the fear and do it anyway,I say..

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 07:19 PM • permalink


    1. ABC laments the fact that Target’s profits are expected to be down (forgets to be happy that we GREEDY,SELFISH,MONEY GRABBING,CAPITALIST PIGS are cutting our spending at Christmas..)
      ABC wheels out ret S.A.S. Brigadier Jim Wallace head of a CHRISTIAN lobby (uh oh TWO counts against him)……. But he has a redeeming feature- SLAMMING the new HOWARD government I.R. LAWS…..more tummy tickling from YOUR A.B.C.

      Posted by crash on 11/15 at 07:26 PM • permalink


    1. “Wron were there LEFT-overs [?]

      Hey, what a coincidence.  That’s what the usual people who come to Tim D’s asked.  The answer sadly was no.  🙁

      I’m very sorry but I kinda like those little sandwiches with the crust cut off.  Tim had tuna salad, chicken salad, egg salad, and pimento cheese spread.  Yum.  He also put out a tray of cocktail weinies in BBQ sauce and stuffed mushrooms.  Boy was I hungry.

      He also had some nice Australian wine which was surprisingly good.  No Victoria beer though.  🙁

      But of course nothing’s free.  He had some crazy cow named Helen Calicott, Coldcuts, something.  She was ranting on about John Howard and some new legislation.  I had no idea what she was talking about so I interrupted her and asked whether she agreed with me that George Bush was possibly in the top 5 Presidents of all time.  Well, I think she’s on the rag because she started screeching like a banshee.  So I very kindly interrupted her and asked if we were getting any Victoria beer by any chance.  Well it kinda went downhill from that point on.

      You know, I do like coming to Tim Blair’s.  His house is very nice and the people are great.  But the food leaves a lot to be desired.  I mean what the hell is Vegetamite?  It makes terrible finger sandwiches.

      Posted by wronwright on 11/15 at 07:45 PM • permalink


    1. Has anyone one seen moralising Morgan Spurlock’s latest effort, now screening every Thursday night on Ten? The guy who brought us such important nonsense as Super Size Me, now tries to teach white people tolerance. Two weeks ago Spurlock got a young CHRISTIAN man to live with a GAY guy in San Francisco for 30 Days, and last week he got a CHRISTIAN guy to dress and live as a MOSLEM, with a Moslem family for 30 days. Just to show white, Christian people how intolerant they are and to teach us all a lesson.
      I felt like sending Spurlock a few suggestions of my own. How about he gets a Moslem guy to live as a gay guy for 30 days or a Jew? I bet we won’t see that senario materialise any time soon.
      Viewers were all brought back to reality with an almighty thud however, as this Moslem themed program was followed by the late night news. Remembering this was last Thursday! Let’s see, there were the terror raids in Australia, the Islamic riots in France, the terror laws in Britain, the shooting of Dr. Azahari in Indonesia and the suicide bombings in Jordan. Like I said…REALITY!

      Posted by Brian on 11/15 at 08:06 PM • permalink


    1. Brain, I’ve been avoiding Spurlock’s crud. Although I hear that this week’s show is about city people living on a sustainable farming commune or something. Essentially the aim of the place is to generate their own power, recycle their own waste, grow their own food etc. Apparently it shows the sheer futility of it all – the reviewer of course thought that it should’t be shown because it gave negative publicity to such a ‘noble cause’….

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/15 at 08:21 PM • permalink


    1. Wronwright,

      “I mean what the hell is Vegetamite?  It makes terrible finger sandwiches.”

      What are you talking about?  Vegamite is made from fingers.

      Posted by JayC on 11/15 at 08:41 PM • permalink


    1. Anyone who’s wondering, Tim B is in New York for the Pajamas Media Debauch.  We got the joint to ourselves…


      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/15 at 08:42 PM • permalink


    1. #83- ask my sometime co-blogger Carl about the nursing “profession”, or my mother, who ran the oncology unit at the PA in Brisbane.
      Most are more concerned with swanning around with clipboards building an administrative empire than wiping arses and changing shitty beds, especially the university trained ones, and when they do some actual work they try to tell medical professionals with 15 years of training what to do. For a shining example of the militancy and disconnection of the nursing profession, look no further than the lovelyPamela Curr.
      I think it was unwise of the ABC (in Qld anyway) showing footage of the anti-IR rabble, and probably detrimental to the cause; a large number of the protestors should not be concerned with changes to workplace arrangements as they don’t actually take part in gainful employment. I could be wrong and there’s huge demand for anorexic white idiots with dreadlocks and facial piercings and morbidly obese lesbians with burr cuts (well there is the public service I suppose).
      Then again, with the feeble review of the welfare system there is a remote chance that current professional protestors may actually have to accept employment offered, and they rightly are concerned that they won’t be immediately elevated to the board and given a company Ferrari.

      Posted by Habib on 11/15 at 09:13 PM • permalink


    1. #118- sums up the IRC perfectly, and why they should not only be disbanded but in fact deserve to be towed out to sea and used for gunnery practice- what a pack of reality-challenged dickheads.

      Posted by Habib on 11/15 at 09:40 PM • permalink


    1. Trawling the Courier Mail’s web feedback page I came across this poster, Amjid Abdul-ala, his letters are a bit scary. (there are two letters and numerous people take him to task)

      Life is not about having fun, life is a Test and we will either succeed or fail depending on our actions.

      I heard this same line from the Moslem in the Spurlock “plant a Christian” program.

      No wonder they are all so miserable. Mr Abdul-ala also speaks about killing gays (they choose to be gay) and tapping wives on the neck if they disobey (WTF?).

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 09:43 PM • permalink


    1. Nilknarf – but you work in the creative arts darrrlink!

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 10:14 PM • permalink


    1. #110 – Arty – agree 100%; this mirrors my experience.

      One of the most hilarious comments I have ever heard about “culture”, and I still remember it 15 years later, was from a pretentious fellow uni student who, with all their formal education and worldly wisdom said:  “people are either born cultured, or not; it’s not something that can be learned”.  They were serious.

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 10:29 PM • permalink


    1. 131. Ck, yes, but I had a life before then and worked in the real world. As much as I love being on set, I can tell you I will never be up for an Oscar. Ever. I don’t play the backbiting, political games. I can’t be bothered with that crap.

      Picture the worst office politicking, and multiply it by 10. That’s a good start. Precious hairdressers, wardrobe nazis. In this country at least we aren’t unionised to the extent that overseas (hello, USA!) is. I got to play on a set in LA a few years back – just as runner and stills photographer – and everybody was gobsmacked! What was a makeup artist doing taking photos! You’da thunk the sky would fall in.

      128 Habib, I know what you mean. I’ve got friends in the Blood Bank (admin, not nursing), and they are well and truly over the nurses too. There are some amazing ones, but there are also some lovely dears One of my midwives springs to mind in the birthing centre. After 22 hours and no action she wanted to go for the forceps. Bugger that! Needless to say, she didn’t get it her way. Lovely dear, as I say, but let’s stick to bingo in future.)

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 10:52 PM • permalink


    1. 132. Ck, my fave is the idiot at friday night drinks for a legal firm overheard:

      There is no “I” in the word “TEAM”.

      Also said with sincerity and a straight face. I thought that sort of crap only came out of AMWAY brainwashing sessions seminars.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 10:54 PM • permalink


    1. #127

      Thanks for the notice. Between Tim away and Andrew Bolt having buggered off, I’m struggling…

      [hurls pie at Richard McEnroe]
      Posted by Dan Lewis on 11/15 at 10:58 PM • permalink


    1. 134

      “moving forward”
      as in Campbell Newman (Can-Do Campbell) speaking yesterday about the bomb hoax on the Brisbane Public Transport System, “there were some problems and moving forward we will take what we’ve learned on board…” (this is paraphrased)
      arrgh, I hate that marketing speak, my eyes glaze over and I just switch off. .

      (I flogged Amway for a while, years ago. Stopped going to the meetings – they were like religious revivals! I couldn’t believe the excitment generated by cleaning products. I was just a member to get cheap products for mum.)

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:06 PM • permalink


    1. LOL kae. 🙂 I did that, too. Good products, though.

      For something a bit different on the mlm front, if you’ve got the time, check out Merchants of Deception by Eric Scheibler. He’s got the inside skinny on Amway, and it’s very interesting stuff.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 11:11 PM • permalink


    1. #113 wron, only the 5th best?  Who were the top 4?  (ooh, I love a list!)

      Posted by slammer on 11/15 at 11:14 PM • permalink


    1. kae – oooohhhh – the dreaded “going forward we will…”; or “in doing this, moving forward..”; or “moving forward our goal for the next finacial year is…” etc, etc. One of my pet hates! Ugh!

      Even executives use this language, 12 times in three minutes (on average).  The alternative would be – what?  We’ll implement this in the past?  We’ll achieve this goal last year?  The decay of language, indeed.

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 11:17 PM • permalink


    1. 137
      Yeah, but Mum reckoned that sa8 turned to crap some years ago.

      Nilknarf, can you give me a makeover, or do you specialise in “horror” stuff? (Don’t need that… I might go after wronwright seeing as he likes oder wimmin – or at least appreciates them… maybe I’m not old enough…)

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:18 PM • permalink


    1. 139 -Ck


      “at this point in time…”


      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:19 PM • permalink


    1. kae – eeeeekkkk!!  Don’t get me started!!!

      “we need to think outside the box”

      “lets think laterally”

      “customer centred”

      “from the customer back”

      “centres of excellence”


      “walk the talk”

      “thought leadership” (this one is especially funny when the company is lagging a decade behind the rest of the industry)

      “capturing their mind-space” (huh?!)

      Posted by Ck on 11/15 at 11:29 PM • permalink


    1. #130: Thanks for that link. This guy’s a real gem (whether or not it’s a put-up). We should get him on to the Margok Ingston show.

      Man can hit wife. No prob (she must be naughty though). Man cannot be hit, however, because he is wife’s protector.

      And in a statement of self-preservation:

      And yes Mental ppl are fine.

      Here he’s saying that, unlike homosexuals, it is not the muslim’s duty to kill nutcases. Could this be Islam’s next contribution to science? The Gay Bomb!

      Posted by The on 11/15 at 11:31 PM • permalink


    1. 142

      oh, yeah! I like not being the only person who really, intensely dislikes this stuff.

      I have the Dictionary of Weasel words at home, it’s a bewdy!

      Weasel Words, such a wank.

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:34 PM • permalink


    1. kae, yes I can give you a makeover. Want to look younger or older? Or merely more delectable?

      It’s not difficult when you know how – jsut takes practise. I just loooooove the fx stuff. Can’t have too much blood if you ask me.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 11:37 PM • permalink


    1. #128 I could be wrong and there’s huge demand for anorexic white idiots with dreadlocks and facial piercings and morbidly obese lesbians with burr cuts (well there is the public service I suppose).

      At least with the announcement of 12000 job cuts, Telstra’s will no longer be the sheltered workshop of choice.

      #142, the other day my boss talked about “tooling up” and “drilling down” (with a completely straight face).

      This follows on from the rugby league player interviewed earlier today who said he was looking for “brighter pastures” (next to Chernobyl perhaps?).

      Oh, and some OT news. The UN has rehired the only guy they fired over oil for food:

      U.N. to reinstate lone official fired in oil-for-food scandal

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/15 at 11:38 PM • permalink


    1. #143

      I reckon you are right, he’d be welcome at Margok. I’d be interested to see the reception he got there…

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:40 PM • permalink


    1. Can someone explain to me in words of one syllable or less exactly how one ‘pushes the envelope’?

      I know people who would go to the opening of an envelope, but that’s not quite the same thing.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 11:42 PM • permalink


    1. #146

      “tooling up” and “drilling down”

      So, you are in Pharmaceuticals? Viagra?


      Oh yeah! Um, lemme see…
      More delectable
      minus 30kg (oh, ok, 20 will do)
      anything you can do will be great!

      I already was Lizzie Borden years ago, and made up a boyfriend as Dracula – he was amazed (amazing what you can do with a black eyebrow pencil, some base and talcum powder – oh and the teeth). But I don’t think “Bride of Drac” will work for me… not in the ‘real’ world. I’d need something much more conventional.

      Posted by kae on 11/15 at 11:46 PM • permalink


    1. 149. kae, my fave piece of work was Jesus Christ for a fancy dress party. The theme was come as your fave deity. There was a fellow there in a toga with a beard who was JC before the cross, and myself with beard, stigmata, blood everywhere and a loincloth (and a tube top, too. Got to have some decency). Oh, and a hole in my side. Just bummed I didn’t get any photos.

      I got very drunk that night, and it was one of the few occasions I have been stoned (I don’t like it), and my friends gave me no end of grief for trying to pick up Satan. LOL. Not what a good catholic girl should be doing.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/15 at 11:52 PM • permalink


    1. Need some info for a short story.  What is the most famous T&A beach in Australia?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 12:04 AM • permalink


    1. 150 Nilk, when I figure out how to I will post a couple of photos of Lizzie and Drac (different parties, about 10 years apart). For Lizzie I just wore one of my Gran’s dresses and carted an axe around with me – there was an annoying Psychology student at this particular party trying to psychoanalyse people at the party (I think he was doing some sort of research – or was a complete loser). He started asking me really personal questions and when I told him to pizz off he got really shirty and then asked me questions about my repressed violence, and why I was such a violent person…

      Under that circumstance, I wonder why?

      Oh, and at the party was the grandson of Haigh, The Acid Bath Murderer.

      The hostess was also bonking my best friend’s boyfriend. And they (hostess and my best friend) were supposed to be best friends, too.

      Ahh, those were the days.

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:06 AM • permalink


    1. richard – sorry to be dumb – “T&A”?  Tourist and…?

      Posted by Ck on 11/16 at 12:07 AM • permalink


    1. How’d you miss the all time nadir of buzzy/lefty meaningless bullshit words- PARADIGM?
      The next wanker who uses it in my presence (and not in jest) will have his lungs removed with a rusty lid off a catfood tin.

      Posted by Habib on 11/16 at 12:08 AM • permalink


    1. 152
      dunno what T&A is, but pick one…
      of these?

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:10 AM • permalink


    1. G’day Habib,

      Physicists get to use the word paradigm with a straight face and have it mean something.  It does have a real meaning when we use it.

      Posted by Russell on 11/16 at 12:12 AM • permalink


    1. G’day ck (#153)

      Actually you a being a bit highbrow when thinking about T&A – think more along the lines of female body parts.

      Posted by Russell on 11/16 at 12:14 AM • permalink


    1. 154

      Owch, Habib, that’s gotta hurt!

      I work in a Uni, how’d you think I cope with this weaselword stuff. Speshly in job applications.

      I have to play the game.

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:15 AM • permalink


    1. #149 So, you are in Pharmaceuticals? Viagra?

      If only! The truth is a lot less exciting.

      #151, Maslins Beach near Adelaide is a notorious nude beach if that’s what you’re after. However if you’re a beach where the beautiful people go, Bondi could be more apt?

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/16 at 12:15 AM • permalink


    1. #138 slammer “wron, only the 5th best?  Who were the top 4?  (ooh, I love a list!)”

      Oh I don’t know.  I won’t follow the usual list and automatically place Lincoln and Washington in the top 5.  My question is did Lincoln and Washington do things beyond the ability of most and which few of their contemporaries could have done as well or better?  I think Abe did a perfectly terrible job in the first two years of his Administration.  I wonder if it wasn’t for him finally choosing a capable general and for the significant advantages that the North held over the South, whether he would have failed in keeping the Union whole.

      I do regard Washington highly for accomplishments that occurred prior to he becoming President.  Namely leading the Colonial Army and the Constitutional Congress.  As a President I’m not sure he was top 5 caliber.  But since my readings are confined to murder mysteries involving lesbian nuns, I might not be correct on that.

      I like Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman.  I believe Polk was instrumental in expanding the country via Mexico.  Jefferson was simply OK except for the Louisiana Purchase, truly a piece of good luck.  And I will agree that FDR was important and of lasting effect.

      Who makes up my Top 5?  Well, I haven’t decided yet.  But I’m of the opinion that Ronald Reagan deserves it for the reason of defeating Communism.  And Bush deserves it for the reason that he pisses off the leftwing so much.  That gets bonus points.

      Posted by wronwright on 11/16 at 12:19 AM • permalink


    1. 151

      Oh, I see.

      This might be the place to look for beaches with wobbly bits.

      Personally, my wobbly bits are way past showing off.

      Now, Nilknarf, about that makeover…

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:19 AM • permalink


    1. #146 –

      I know rehiring a corrupt official looks pretty damning but it may not be Kofi’s fault.

      I used to work for a specialist agency of the UN and there was one guy that was fired for taking corrupt payments from the airlines in connection with his international travel – the ICJ foreced the agency to rehire him because the corruption was “incidental and irrelevant” to his conditions of employment.

      Posted by Russell on 11/16 at 12:20 AM • permalink


    1. Aw, c’mon wron, like pissing off the leftwing is hard?

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:21 AM • permalink


    1. #134 – And in the Army we used to say:

      There is no “I” in “pack of c***s” either!

      Posted by Razor on 11/16 at 12:24 AM • permalink


    1. Yeah, but you have to actually know stuff to be a physicist.  (I bombed out on multivariable calculus and went back to computing.)

      Posted by Pixy Misa on 11/16 at 12:26 AM • permalink


    1. 165

      My Physicist degree friend said she, too, had problems with multivariable calculus – but thinks it was more to do with the blood alcohol content at the time.

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 12:35 AM • permalink


    1. #151- Granite Bay near Noosa is tits oot for the lads, but Mr Plod grabbed some bloke there last week for getting some sun on his stiffy; the Southport Spit is well known for the plethora of White Pointers present, as evidenced by the large number of perverts who lurk in the sand dunes behind the beach for furtive bishop-bashing.

      Posted by Habib on 11/16 at 12:55 AM • permalink


    1. There aint no “I” in Team but there certainly is a “me”.

      Posted by lingus4 on 11/16 at 12:55 AM • permalink


    1. Russell – ah, okay then, yes, err, it all becomes clear.  Obviously a gender-based abbreviation.  Needless to say, I can’t help you with the answer.

      Habib – arrrrgh!  Yes!  When they repartition the office and think it’s a paradigm shift; or they’re going to become “customer focused”, and they really, really think THAT’S a paradigm shift, or when they do a re-org along market segments, that think it’s the big “P” again.  Don’t ya just wanna buy everyone in the office a fucking dictionary?  Especially marketing and “human resources” [“peope are our most important asset” – my arse!] people?

      Posted by Ck on 11/16 at 01:04 AM • permalink


    1. OT – and I don’t feel so bad doing this ‘cause it’s like a de facto open thread….

      Magrok is going to be soooo jealous that Tim’s part of a genuine ‘electronic newspaper’.

      This I found off the the LGF site: Web Site to Blend Journalism With Blogs

      Go Tim!

      — Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 11/16 at 01:05 AM • permalink


    1. people are our most important asset

      HR = human remains

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 01:09 AM • permalink


    1. Think Bondi works for me.  Gotta have suits on for them to come off, right?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 01:10 AM • permalink


    1. Marylyn Sheephead needs to get some harmless household products and put them together on her loungeroom floor, just to see what harmless household products can do. I suggest 1 cup harmlesswashing powder and 1 tablespoon harmlessglycerine (or sump oil).*

      *Don’t try this at home.

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 01:29 AM • permalink


    1. #170 Nora,

      But where’s Margo? PMSL

      Posted by Nic on 11/16 at 01:31 AM • permalink


    1. over here it’s tits and bum.

      isn’t it?

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 01:31 AM • permalink


    1. Very “off topic”–
      Achaeologists working at the purported site of the battle of David and Goliath have found a shard of pottery bearing the name of the Philistine…source OZ.
      A 450kilo ape with teeth an inch wide walked the earth (100,000 years ago ) alongside man…..Not if the man had any choice about it I’ll bet…source OZ.

      Posted by crash on 11/16 at 01:35 AM • permalink


    1. #128 I can confirm Habib’s observations of the anti-IR crowds from Melbourne.  I took my pre-work coffee in a cafe just near a mustering point for the rally, and soon lost count of the morbidly obese lesbians with buzz-cuts, dreadlocks, piercings, and weedy, pasty 30-something guys in hoodies and carrying skateboards.

      Posted by cuckoo on 11/16 at 01:39 AM • permalink


    1. Meanwhile, it seems our farmers are missing out on the lucrative German fresh produce market because of our refusal to sign Kyoto:

      Farmers told they will suffer from Govt’s failure to sign Kyoto protocol

      Trust the ABC to report this crud.

      Posted by ArtVandelay on 11/16 at 01:48 AM • permalink


    1. #176- the OZ today (p. 2) was congratulating itself on winning “best newspaper” at the inaugural News Awards, limited to News Corp papers in Australia- pure farce!

      Posted by slammer on 11/16 at 01:54 AM • permalink


    1. #125: ”…Although I hear that this week’s show is about city people living on a sustainable farming commune or something. Essentially the aim of the place is to generate their own power, recycle their own waste, grow their own food etc. Apparently it shows the sheer futility of it all…”

      Been there, done that.  That’s the plot of The Good Life (UK, 1975) except Richard Briers, Felicity Kendal, Paul Eddington and Penelope Keith were actually funny.

      Posted by walterplinge on 11/16 at 01:56 AM • permalink


    1. Richard, Point Addis down the West Coast of Vic was a nudist beach a few years back, although I don’t know if it still it. It’s a lovely beach, though.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 01:56 AM • permalink


    1. 161 kae, you are now starting to make me wonder about my not-inconsiderable skills lol. I don’t do surgery, but I guess, there’s always the bucket.  Not that you’d need it of course.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 02:01 AM • permalink


    1. 182

      paperbag, paperbag, paperbag

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 02:07 AM • permalink


    1. This beach on the west coast of Tasmania is well known for regular nude sunbathing by female trade union officials, Fairfax journalists and political activists.

      Hubba hubba!

      (Or is that blubber blubber?)

      Posted by Habib on 11/16 at 02:09 AM • permalink


    1. 183. Buckets don’t break!

      There are plenty of times I’ve wished for a bucket after a long night.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 02:13 AM • permalink


    1. 185 Look, Nilk, just make me about 23 again, at least I had yoof on my side.





      *sigh* are you telling me you ain’t the miracle worker?

      Posted by kae on 11/16 at 02:20 AM • permalink


    1. 186 kae, you sound like you’re heading on for a hundred at the moment! 🙂 That would mean a few options:
      1) surgery. bleh.
      2) full face cast and prosthetics
      3) a bit of nice contouring and sucking up to the lighting department. 🙂

      I’d go for 3. The only ways any of us get to look in our 20s again are via 1 or 2. Oh, add in CGI, and since I can’t even run my printer at the moment, you can forget that! lol.

      The third option is also much better for your skin.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 02:35 AM • permalink


    1. T and A beaches in Sydney would have to be Tamarama (Glamarama) on the south side and Lady Jane beach (full nude pervertville) on the north-side.

      Posted by Deo Vindice on 11/16 at 02:36 AM • permalink


    1. #173 kae – I’ll get nilkarf to stick your eyes shut if you trick me into going to webdiary again!  Dear Marilyn thinks the muslims are just buying vitamins, and party favors for cracker night.  As refutation, look at the prosecution’s statement on Silent Running for a chill down your spine.  How come the guvmint took my pump action, and they can get them?  Is it a minority thing? (/sarcasm)

      Posted by SezaGeoff on 11/16 at 03:02 AM • permalink


    1. Thanks everyone for the beach advice.  I just needed a name for authenticity to explain where kojin arikui kingu was rampaging on its way to Tokyo.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 03:02 AM • permalink


    1. Richard – well, yeah, of course; we knew that.

      Posted by Ck on 11/16 at 03:07 AM • permalink


    1. And trust me, you don’t want to know what the chi kushira uwabami and suukou chikan kani are getting up to.

      Personally, I blame the French nuclear tests.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 03:11 AM • permalink


    1. Richard, friends of Gamera?

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 03:28 AM • permalink


    1. #192, Rich

      Is chi kushira uwabami those bathing “shoestrings” favored by Japanese women these days? I can’t put a link to them as they are not proper stuff for this website. But they must have a name.

      Posted by ekw on 11/16 at 03:45 AM • permalink


    1. This week’s Continuing Crisis column mentions Rich Hall, Mark Steyn, and the BLF.

      Someone’s gotta do it…

      Posted by slammer on 11/16 at 04:15 AM • permalink


    1. Speaking of the BLF….I could’ve sworn I saw a flag saying “BLF” in the crowd of IR posters…
      …what, they can go for a march but won’t crash a party?

      Posted by Quentin George on 11/16 at 04:49 AM • permalink


    1. Can someone explain to me in words of one syllable or less exactly how one ‘pushes the envelope’?

      It’s an aeronautical term and refers to the performance and design envelope in which an aircraft can operate safely. Push the envelope and the result might be unintended contact with the ground.

      Posted by walterplinge on 11/16 at 04:57 AM • permalink


    1. 197Thanks, Walter. 🙂

      I’m still confused, but not as.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 06:09 AM • permalink


    1. And Where Is Wally? Er… I mean Tim.

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/16 at 06:34 AM • permalink


    1. Someone had to do it.

      Posted by guinsPen on 11/16 at 06:38 AM • permalink


    1. I always wanted to be the 200th commentor.

      Posted by fidens on 11/16 at 06:39 AM • permalink


    1. Fuck.

      Posted by fidens on 11/16 at 06:40 AM • permalink


    1. #199. At the Pajama Party in the Big Apple.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 11/16 at 06:44 AM • permalink


    1. Tim B sighted in NYC.

      Posted by guinsPen on 11/16 at 06:46 AM • permalink


    1. Might be some signs of Tim withdrawal syndrome on this thread…

      Funny thing is that I can’t find a single leftist blog in this country with 200+ comments on a thread because the blogger has snuck out the back door while his audience was not looking!

      Says something, that.


      Posted by MarkL on 11/16 at 07:11 AM • permalink


    1. Will the Socceroos choke? Again?

      Posted by Quentin George on 11/16 at 07:38 AM • permalink


    1. There may be no I in team but there certainly is one in team obsessed shithead

      Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 11/16 at 07:38 AM • permalink


    1. Well, shows how much I know. The roos did it!

      Posted by Quentin George on 11/16 at 07:46 AM • permalink


    1. Hear that sigh of relief? That was Viduka.

      Posted by HC44 on 11/16 at 07:48 AM • permalink


    1. ha, socceroos won, first time in the world cup comp for 32 years

      Posted by entropy on 11/16 at 07:54 AM • permalink


    1. #204.  That’s Tim our Ambassador.

      Posted by Melanie on 11/16 at 07:56 AM • permalink


    1. Very exciting. Guess the unions will be pissed off – this will be big news for a few days.

      Posted by Melanie on 11/16 at 08:02 AM • permalink


    1. Howard rigged the win just to draw attention away from the new IR laws.

      Posted by HC44 on 11/16 at 08:07 AM • permalink


    1. #193 gamera – the best ever japanese plastic schlock-monster

      Posted by KK on 11/16 at 08:13 AM • permalink


    1. #213 Absolutely.  The 50 trillion dollars on IR advertising was peanuts to what he probably paid to rig this game.

      Posted by Melanie on 11/16 at 08:15 AM • permalink


    1. So was Tim at the football, masquerading as Mark Viduka ??  I’m sure Tim couldnt do much better than Mark’s penalty attempt !  9-)

      Posted by Fleety on 11/16 at 08:35 AM • permalink


    1. Frank Lowy is in charge of Soccer Australia.
      It’s clearly a Zionist plot!!!!!


      Congratulations Socceroos.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 11/16 at 08:39 AM • permalink


    1. #204- It seems Tim forgot to pack his manners!

      Posted by slammer on 11/16 at 08:42 AM • permalink


    1. Proof!

      Howard congratulates Socceroos

      Howard KNEW!!!


      Posted by Quentin George on 11/16 at 09:04 AM • permalink


    1. Once again the dark and evil JWH has wreaked death and destruction on his enemies.

      “Shootouts”?  A warmongering term coined especially to repress the filthy Uraguyan commies.

      They ARE commies aren’t they?

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 11/16 at 10:09 AM • permalink


    1. COME OOOOOO–ON!!!!!!!!!!!!Socceroos….
      I come from a land down under…….

      Posted by crash on 11/16 at 10:16 AM • permalink



      Posted by Steve Edwards on 11/16 at 10:37 AM • permalink


    1. I love this blog! As an Aussie living overseas, where else can I go to get all the news in one thread. In a thread originally about Alcorn’s obvious lunacy, you have covered the IR laws, blogging in general, nude beaches (incuding Pt. Addis – just near home), the soccer results (good show that), back to more lunacy with Marilyn Shithead, Howard’s rigging of the soccer result and a few things I admit I can’t understand (maybe I have been away too long). Keep up the bloody good work.

      Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 11/16 at 10:53 AM • permalink


    1. AlphaMikeFoxtrot
      Why did you leave?

      Posted by Rob Read on 11/16 at 11:06 AM • permalink


    1. Pushing the envelope… pushing outward against the sphere of limitations.

      Well done the Socceroos!

      Posted by splice on 11/16 at 11:14 AM • permalink


    1. ekw — Loose translations:

      Giant Anteater King
      Thousand Head Python
      Great Pervert Crab

      I have some interesting markets (and I’m pretty sure Steinbeck never wrote about Great Pervert Crab, so pass me that bottle of sangria, will you?  Of course, Burroughs (William, not Edgar Rice) might have…)

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 11:15 AM • permalink


    1. Nilknarf Arbed — Gamera (“The giant flying, fire-farting turtle of justice!”) was unavailable, as he was attending an Earth Day Rally in Berkeley.

      And we couldn’t get Godzilla because he was celebrating the release of his final movie by vacationing on the Cote d’Azur.  All of it.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 11:22 AM • permalink


    1. Rob (#224). I’m ADF serving o/s at the moment. I love it here, but looking forward to coming home.

      Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 11/16 at 11:27 AM • permalink


    1. Slammer — Those ARE Australian manners.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 11/16 at 12:04 PM • permalink


    1. Damn.  I miss all the fun.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 11/16 at 12:18 PM • permalink


    1. Serves me right, I suppose, for going to bed.  I realize most of you are on the daylight side of the planet while I’m snoozing, but from the looks of this thread, I really have to ask:  don’t you people ever sleep?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 11/16 at 12:20 PM • permalink


    1. “don’t you people ever sleep?”

      Not me! AND WE WON!!!!!


      Posted by Steve Edwards on 11/16 at 12:51 PM • permalink



      Posted by Steve Edwards on 11/16 at 12:56 PM • permalink


    1. 160 Lincoln…
      pro: ended slavery in USA
      con: got half a million Americans killed in the process.
      remarks: Other nations did away w/ slavery with WAY lower levels of bloodshed.

      Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 11/16 at 01:06 PM • permalink


    1. 173

      I suggest 1 cup harmlesswashing powder and 1 tablespoon harmlessglycerine (or sump oil).*

      She should maybe spend some quality time in a closed room with 1 gallon harmless ammonia mixed with 1 gallon harmless household bleach.

      Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 11/16 at 01:16 PM • permalink


    1. Push the envelope and the result might be unintended contact with the ground.

      Also known as “digging a hole the hard way.”

      Posted by mojo on 11/16 at 02:36 PM • permalink


    1. Richard Mc

      I do like the Great Pervert Crab the best. It could be a series of children’s books.

      Stoop DD

      (no offense, I’m sure you know all this) The huge toll stunned everyone including Lincoln, but, had Lincoln backed down and let the South go, the United States would have become two small nations in North America, neither of which could have defended itself successfully against any great foreign power. The entire experiment in freedom and democracy was under attack. Everything the US had fought for in the first place was in real peril of being destroyed and this young, fledgling republic turned back to pre-Revolutionary times. There were a number of other reasons, but that one was, I believe, paramount. Civil wars are generally bloody. Ours was no exception.

      Just my opinion.

      Posted by ekw on 11/16 at 02:53 PM • permalink


    1. addendum

      Other nations which did away with slavery without all this bloodshed did not have this Peculiar Institution so deeply imbedded in the culture of one large part of the country. There were 4 million black slaves in the South (out of a population there of 11 million) working in the southern states and creating almost their entire economy which consisted mostly of King Cotton.

      The South absolutely relied on slaves. The threat of their being manumitted was, literally, the death knell of the South as it was. The Southerners, mainly the large plantation owners, believed, rightly, that their entire way of life was threatened. This was no small inconvenience for them. It was nothing less than the destruction of their economic base. Lincoln tried everything including offering to pay every Southerner reparations for the number of slaves he lost as a result of manumission. The planters refused. They sealed their doom.

      Posted by ekw on 11/16 at 03:08 PM • permalink


    1. I should have said “compensation” rather than reparations.

      Posted by ekw on 11/16 at 03:13 PM • permalink


    1. According to the Union Movement here, we are about to be turned into slaves by the evil IR laws. There is so much fuss from the ACTU that it looks a lot like them protecting what is left of their power base.
      Since the labour movement (including the ALP machine & the parliamentary party) in the last decade has been entirely about power rather than true social policy for the people, one suspects that the expenditure of large amounts of union members funds on a pre-emptive ad campaign (ie before the draft bill was circulated) was another cynical exercise by a threatened species.
      There was so much fuss about the government spending money on advertising, but not a peep from the MSM about the unionists’ expenditure at an even earlier and more hypothetical point in the development of this new system.
      The rallies this week in the capital cities were so much street theatre.
      It is reminiscent of the doom and gloom that preceded the introduction of the GST.

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/16 at 04:47 PM • permalink


    1. 226:Giant Pervert Crab.

      I almost shot a film with him. He can be found skulking on nudist beaches down the east coast of Port Phillip Bay, or in a cave surrounded by pictures of naked relatives. He is not a creature you wish to meet in a dark alley.

      Or anywhere else for that matter.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 04:56 PM • permalink


    1. PIMF. Great Pervert Crab.

      Bugger. Too early in the morning.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 04:58 PM • permalink


    1. The UN is what you get when you create a bureaucracy and staff it with the people from any sovereign nation that has a foot in the door.
      Basic business management would suggest that public policy should be developed by those with a good track record.
      How about restricting the executive actions to those from countries which people actually want to live in? That should narrow it down a bit.
      As to the constant bleats about International Law, how can you have people presiding over such important functions as voting on international matters, when they dont give their own people at home a vote at all – or not an effective one?

      Posted by blogstrop on 11/16 at 05:02 PM • permalink


    1. ekw, re:#237 and #238

      Pardon my ignorance on the subject as I am a humble Aussie, but I thought that Frederick Jackson Turner summed up the main reason for the conflict between north and south with the words, “The Civil War began in the frontier territories and it was the fight for the future of the frontier, not abstract issues of State’s Rights or morality, that sent tens of thousands marching into battle at Shiloh and Gettysburg.”

      Posted by Lofty on 11/16 at 05:12 PM • permalink


    1. My god, are you people still here?  Tim leaves for a business trip and you all take advantage.  Who got the key to his house?

      Oh kay, why is Richard McEnroe typing away in the corner with a lascivious smile on his face?  Why is ekw talking about the American Civil War to a very intoxicated Stoop Davy Dave?  And why is arbed nilknarf braiding kae’s hair?

      Tim will be so mad when he comes home.  Especially when he finds that I’m drinking his last can of Victoria beer.  (Please God, let there be one more can left in the refrigerator).

      Posted by wronwright on 11/16 at 05:13 PM • permalink


    1. All good points, blogstrop.

      As far as I’m ocncerned, the UN should be disbanded (which it won’t be – too much of a rort) or ignored.

      I don’t understand how anybody can take the UN seriously. Ever. Maybe once upon a time they deserved our attention, but the hypocrisy that infests that organisation knows no bounds and therefore warrents no respect.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 11/16 at 05:14 PM • permalink


    1. #244, I can’t be sure but I believe Turner might be alluding to the series of crisis that arose from the adding of states to the Union.  Each time a state was proposed to be added, the North wanted it to come in as a free state (i.e., slavery abolished) and the South wanted it as a slavery state.  These new states comprised the frontier of the early 19th century US.

      Didn’t you Aussies cover this in 8th grade American history?  I know I did and I slept through most of it.

      Posted by wronwright on 11/16 at 05:22 PM • permalink


    1. ekw 237

      (no offense, I’m sure you know all this)

      You may underestimate my ignorance at your own risk.  The name ain’t “Historically Perspicacious Davey Dave,” after all.

      The huge toll stunned everyone including Lincoln, but, had Lincoln backed down and let the South go, the United States would have become two small nations in North America, neither of which could have defended itself successfully against any great foreign power.

      Yeah yeah, I get that he didn’t have a terrific set of options facing him.  But I don’t quite buy that there were all that many rivals / challengers to mid-19th-century USA OR USA & CSA’s North American hegemony.  Not in the immediate short term, anyway.  And a USA/CSA wartime alliance-of-convenience would be more likely in the aftermath of a bloodless secession than otherwise … but yeah … it definitely would have created problems down the road.  It’s an open question as to whether these would have been worse than the problems we historically DID get, but overall, you’re probably right.
      BUT … all that being SAID …

      Everything the US had fought for in the first place was in real peril of being destroyed and this young, fledgling republic turned back to pre-Revolutionary times.

      Much of what the US had fought for in the first place WAS destroyed, some of it temporarily (habeus corpus) and some of it forever (a genuine republic, composed of mostly-autonomous states).  Yes, ending slavery was worth all that, and more, but there were some very real costs incurred, in terms of short-term bloodshed and long-term structure-of-government issues.
      I’m sorry, this doesn’t very directly relate to Hamish Alcorn, does it?  Never mind.

      Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 11/16 at 05:26 PM • permalink


    1. 245 wron-too-late

      Especially when he finds that I’m drinking his last can of Victoria beer.  (Please God, let there be one more can left in the refrigerator).

      HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!  How’d you think i GOT this intoxicated, anyway?  Did you think I brought my OWN beer to Tim’s house?  HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!

      Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 11/16 at 05:29 PM • permalink


  1. F.J.Turner 244

    “The Civil War began in the frontier territories and it was the fight for the future of the frontier, not abstract issues of State’s Rights or morality, that sent tens of thousands marching into battle at Shiloh and Gettysburg.”

    Bah!  It was about tariffs.  Everything else was just rhetoric.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 11/16 at 05:32 PM • permalin