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Sydney Morning Herald environment reporter Wendy Frew reveals the hideous cause of global warming. Apparently it’s everything:

New data shows the electricity and water used to produce everything people buy – from food and clothing to CDs and electrical appliances – far outweighs any efforts to save water and power in the home, according to an extensive analysis by the Australian Conservation Foundation and the University of Sydney …

Shopping habits represent such a large part of greenhouse gas emissions that even if every household switched to renewable energy and stopped driving cars tomorrow, total household emissions would fall by less than 20 per cent, the study found.

So the SMH will stop running ads, one assumes. Stand back as Wendy announces:

Over-consumption is, literally, costing the earth.

Whoa!

More water is used to produce a single serve of beef than the average Sydneysider uses during an entire week of showers. Every $100 spent on clothing generates 70 kilograms of greenhouse pollution.

So they really do want us to live in caves. Brace yourself for super genius enviro-insight:

One of the main findings of the report, Consuming Australia, is that the more people earn, the more they spend …

It took an extensive analysis to work this out. These people are demented.

Posted by Tim B. on 08/19/2007 at 12:14 PM
    1. Betshe baulked at publishing how much water producing a sheet of newsprint consumes …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 08 19 at 12:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. the more people earn, the more they spend …

      And yet, the more people like this write, the less people like me read. Go figure.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 08 19 at 12:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. “One of the main findings of the report, Consuming Australia, is that the more people earn, the more they spend”.

      OMG! What Gaia shattering conclusion! So deep, so full of understanding! Definitely Nobel class material.

      After this class act, what next? Perhaps one study with a main finding that the more s**t goes into a study, the more s**t comes out of it?

      Posted by ElectronPower on 2007 08 19 at 12:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. More water is used to produce a single serve of beef than the average Sydneysider uses during an entire week of showers.

      What, don’t you people leave the water on long enough to rinse the soap off?

      Some of the data cited by Ms. Frew emit just the slightest whiff of . . . unbelievability. Although the intellectual sunburst, “the more people earn, the more they spend” – yes, I buy that.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 12:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sydney Morning Herald environment report Wendy Frew

      What does that rhyme with? Hmmmmm…

      I’m sure Frew’s home is a model of voluntary asceticism.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 08 19 at 12:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. Where can I find the table to calculate my greenhouse pollution?

      Not once, ever have I seen an intelligible calculator so I can work out what my spending $300 in the Myer winter sales works out as greenhouse pollution, or even what it adds up to when we put the steaks on the barbie

      How can I know what the effect is of my spending money in the Myers winter sales which supposedly produces x amount of greenhouse gases, when the info is NOT here for me?

      Hey if it’s so simple give me the figures!

      One pair of sales priced pantyhose = what is this in greenhouse gases production?

      One sales priced book “Girls Like You” by Paul, Sheehan = what is this in greenhouse gases production?

      Waiting for answers!

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 08 19 at 12:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. if every household switched to renewable energy and stopped driving cars tomorrow

      Well, and food.  If people stopped growing and buying all that nasty food, emissions could be dropped.  And clothes!  Who needs clothes?  (Apparently not lefties, who love to disrobe at every opportunity, in order to protest war and save glaciers).

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 08 19 at 01:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. #7: Speaking of those anti-warming blue, er, noses, this picture is wonderful. Polar bear heaven.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 01:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. #8 Polar bear heaven.

      The buffet at Polar bear heaven.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 01:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. #9: All you can eat!

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 01:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #8 Good thing everyone knows these things are pointless or I’d mention how much glacier melting radiant heat a single person emits.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 01:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. So what stops Wendy and her fellow believers from, well, stopping?  Seriously, isn’t she appalled at their own ecocriminality?  That tofu they eat is produced from soy grown on vast farms that are displacing virgin South American rain forest.  The hemp clothing they wear, because they care! is displacing crops that could be processed for sustainable biofuels. Their only decent course of action is to to stip off, whittle themselves a digging stick, and head for Uluru…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 08 19 at 01:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. Meanwhile, they’re running her column next to an ad for a megabuck yacht race.  Really, being a greenie must feel like working a Salvation Army tambourine on a streetcorner in Hell…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 08 19 at 01:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. More water is used to produce a single serve of beef than the average Sydneysider uses during an entire week of showers.
      I venture to say that not one drop of that beef-producing water comes from city water supplies.
Posted by Skeeter on 2007 08 19 at 02:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. I haven’t read the article yet. It doesn’t mention our 1.618 by name does it? Don’t worry, 1.618, if Wendy gets her way I will personally kill a horse, tan it and make you a new equestrian bag and then smuggle it to you hidden in a shipment of tofu(likely on wendy’s list of permitted products). I will even include 2 organic looking baseballs inside. (hangs head in shame – I don’t actually know what an equestrian bag is)

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 02:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Obviously we need to stop feeding and watering the cows.  They’re just far too pampered.

      As for all that spending, what it does is just provide jobs for people who then are able to support families, raising another generation of consumers.  It’s a vicious cycle, I tells ya.

      Posted by rbj1 on 2007 08 19 at 02:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. These people are demented.

      As are all the intellectually inbred marxists, degenerate anarchists and frustrated fascists and all the movements, factions and causes they’ve invented over the decades.

      Danger to themselves and others. In the US, it’s called 5150.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 08 19 at 02:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. My bad, 5150 is a legal definition under California codes, not US.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 08 19 at 02:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. REALITY?! in the GUARDIAN?

      wtf?!

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 08 19 at 03:29 PM • permalink


    1.   #8 Polar bear heaven.

      The buffet at Polar bear heaven.

      Less blubber on a walrus.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 08 19 at 03:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Once again, lefties and their envirotard comrades unite to present a solid front of cluelessness.

      I am now eagerly awaiting the news report that Wendy Frew has realized her own sins, and seeks to atone for them by stripping naked, and walking into the wilderness to live—or die—as Mother Gaia™ intended humans to do.

      You go, girl!  I hear grubs are tasty if you don’t chew.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 08 19 at 03:58 PM • permalink

 


    1. I venture to say that not one drop of that beef-producing water comes from city water supplies.
      The vast majority of Australian beef cattle are grass fed, so the water is coming from the sky.

      God journalists are stupid.

      Posted by Quentin George on 2007 08 19 at 05:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Aussiemagpie,

      I have a handy conversion chart. It says

      One pair of sales priced pantyhose = 6 plastic toys made in China

      1 plastic toy made In China = 0.1333 DVDs of the movie “300”

      1 DVD (of any sort) = 246 paper memos from the boss telling you stuff you already knew

      1 memo = 53 copies of the SMH

      Not really sure if this is helpful…

      Posted by Merlin on 2007 08 19 at 05:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. Every $100 spent on clothing generates 70 kilograms of greenhouse pollution.

      Since the Labor government introduced the 1987 ‘Button’ tariffs reduction plan to ensure a level playing field in regard to international trade with Australia (it’s just a pity other countries didn’t follow suit) practically no textiles, clothing or footwear are made here anymore. Most of this stuff now comes from China.

      The chairman of the IPCC when in Australia recently said: “Well, I mean, it’s impossible for a developing country to accept caps on its emissions…”[Link]

      This means that as long as we purchase all of our goods from countries like China and India we will be OK by the IPCC. This does of course mean that, with the introduction of CO2 reduction targets here, all our industries—and their associated jobs—will eventually move offshore, but this is not such a great price to pay for the appeasement of Gaia. Is it?

      Posted by CO² max on 2007 08 19 at 05:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. Brace yourself for super genius enviro-insight:

      One of the main findings of the report, Consuming Australia, is that the more people earn, the more they spend …

      It took an extensive analysis to work this out. These people are demented.

      Socialist wordsmiths are continually baffled by reality. Must be rough.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 05:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Next they’ll come out with something truly insightful – maybe “Data expands to fill available storage” or “The more things change, the more they remain the same”…

      Posted by mojo on 2007 08 19 at 05:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yes, mojo, and they’ll think they’ve discovered something profound.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 05:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. The sad part about this whole farce is that some lefty twit like John Quiggin got a grant of about a couple of hundred grand to come to these conclusions.

      Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 08 19 at 05:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #28 Hank Reardon,

      A couple of hundred grand, eh? Do you think these fog-brained “studies” might be, in fact, an elaborate scam for grant money?

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 05:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. #29: Do you think these fog-brained “studies” might be, in fact, an elaborate scam for grant money?

      Ooooh, I don’t know about that, Spines. Here at the Polytechnical Antipodal College of Ontology, we prefer to call it “tapping the taxpayer bloodbank”.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 06:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. One of the main findings of the report, Consuming Australia, is that the more people earn, the more they spend …

      Nonsense, everyone knows that the more rich & powerful you are, the more people and companies give you free stuff. You think Oprah Winfrey had to buy her own iPhone?

      Posted by Shaky Barnes on 2007 08 19 at 06:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. #30: In fact, you may be interested in some of our research reports, available for only $29.95 (AUS). Permit me to recommend the following:

      “How Running With Scissors Can Lead to Non-Being”

      “The Incredible Light-Headedness of Being Al Gore”

      “I Blog, Therefore I Am”

      “Terry Lane: Pseudo-Marxist or Pseudopod?”

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 06:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. Big Veg has the, er, juice on how much water it takes to produce a kilogram of beef.

      I’d like to see a comparison of production water, etc, cost of a kilogram of beef with the vege nutritional equivalent.

      Some info here on deficiencies which may be experienced by some vegetarians, keeping in mind it’s been produced by Big Meat.

      And just what is going to happen with the housing shortage crisis brought about when we are forced to move into caves – there just aren’t that many caves around, not enough for everyone. It will be chaos!

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 06:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. More water is used to produce a single serve of beef beer than … is pissed away afterwards.

      Well, make some allowance for sweat.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 06:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. the more people earn, the more they spend

      Finally, I see Rudd’s election slogan:

      We will help you be poorer to save the Earth.

      Yes, that’ll be a winner.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 06:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. More propaganda from Sam Neil and Big Meat.

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 06:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. More water is used to produce a single serve of beef than the average Sydneysider uses during an entire week of showers.

      Mmmh, beef. Thank goodness for the non-showering vegan hippies who make it okay for us to create a balanced eco-system.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 08 19 at 06:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. Meanwhile, they’re running her column next to an ad for a megabuck yacht race.  Really, being a greenie must feel like working a Salvation Army tambourine on a streetcorner in Hell…

      Actually, the corner from hell in Ottawa is St. Patrick and King Edward. Where the rubbies meet and you can shoot up in public.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 06:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. I haven’t read the article yet. It doesn’t mention our 1.618 by name does it? Don’t worry, 1.618, if Wendy gets her way I will personally kill a horse, tan it and make you a new equestrian bag and then smuggle it to you hidden in a shipment of tofu(likely on wendy’s list of permitted products). I will even include 2 organic looking baseballs inside. (hangs head in shame – I don’t actually know what an equestrian bag is)

      Dear Colonel,

      A tofu baseball could be nice, do they come in golf balls?

      1.618

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 06:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. See you in a little.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 06:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hehe.  John Quiggin.  Mr. Not Even Wrong.

      Posted by aaron_ on 2007 08 19 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hi Bolty.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. #33 Kae, it seems that the er, essence of Big Veg’s claims is that the water used in beef is not getting back into the acquifers.
      As we all know, that is the only safe place for Gaia to store her water.
      If it is pissed into a pot, vaporises into the atmosphere or runs back to the sea, it is lost forever.
      It really is a great wonder that Gaia has been able to keep the water on the planet for as long as she has. /sarc
      Which reminds me, I must really do something about the water presently cascading out of my brimming rainwater tanks. Megalitres of the precious stuff is running down onto the cow paddock.
      Any suggestions on how I can get it into the acquifers where it will be safe?

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 08 19 at 06:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. The solution to Gore’s Balls Worming is easy.  All that has to happen is for all those worried about Gore’s Balls to die (starting with Gore), thereby saving Gaia, my dinner and a world worth living in.

      How about those yahoos spread out on that glacier start things off.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 08 19 at 06:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43
      It’s a bit like CO2, the old H2O.It never really goes anywhere, it’s still here. Just in a different form.

      My point was that Big Veg could accuse Big Meat of the same ‘crimes of truth’ as Big Oil and AGW/CC. Of course, any dissenting view is obviously funded by the opposition with a vested interest in disproving the absolute truthiness of the hypothesis.

      That’s enough big words for now.

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 07:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. The ALP are promising a 60 percent reduction in carbon emissions by 2050 without nukes.

      This means if they take all cars off the road and we all attach windmills to our hats, there will only be 40 per cent to go.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 08 19 at 07:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. #36
      Sam Neil and Big MeatThat wasn’t the show the Rudder went to see?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 08 19 at 07:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. #47
      Damn! Why didn’t I think of that?Dunno about him going there for Sam Neil, but he may have been looking for some his Big Meat.

      Now, that’s enough of that!

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 07:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. #19 Mr. Monroe, great link. My socialist sister living in the UK read the Grauniad religiously. I will tweak her nose on this 🙂

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 07:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #19. Fascinating article. He ticks every box in conservatives’ “stereotype” view of the liberal mindset. Not least moral smugness and self-congratulation: “I had grown too comfortable with seeing myself as one of the good guys, the well-meaning people”

      Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 08 19 at 07:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. Her leading sentences are revealing – it’s the rich or affluent who are the problem.

      Hullo Communism 2007 Vintage. Same logic as the old one but now dressed in changing climate clothes, (cloths I suspect would be more accurate).

      We are in for another Dark Age I am afraid – this mob have control of the Oz education system, control of all the state parliaments as well as most of the coucils, and if KRudd gets up, the takeover will be complete.

      God Help us.

      Posted by Louis on 2007 08 19 at 07:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. So the SMH will stop running ads, one assumes.

      Cease publication altogether would be even kinder to gaia.

      Posted by Bonmot on 2007 08 19 at 07:22 PM • permalink

 

    1. #41 From Quiggin:

      One bogus memo is enough to turn George W. Bush from a scrimshank who used his family connections to line up a cushy billet to avoid war service, and then shirked even that, into a war hero.

      I.e., the memo was fake but true. Idiotic AND unoriginal, Perfesser.

      Now it appears the US Army has denied Beauchamp’s claims. (To reiterate, I don’t care about or intend to debate, or even to link to, the details of this case).

      Of course you don’t. Because the whole article is an exercise in sleight of hand by which you deflect attention away from a genuine liar and in the direction of yet another case of what you take to be the Right’s rose-colored combat goggles.

      Moral of the story: indisputably bogus stories by leftists are irrelevant; allegedly bogus stories by writers presumed to be rightists go the very heart of the war effort. A thoroughly dishonest article representing the shabbiest form of intellectual prostitution.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 07:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43 Skeeter

      Any suggestions on how I can get it into the acquifers where it will be safe?

      Just let it roll, man, let it roll, roll, roll, all night long.

      Ooops, sorry, got into a Doors number there.

      [Enclyopedia Brittanica school-marmish voice] Water, when left to its own devices, falls downhill into aquifers[/Enclyopedia Brittanica school-marmish voice]

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 07:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. The story about the bus stabbing is very enlightening.

      The product of “communitarianism” is that here is no personal responsibility; the community ceases to exist; all is left to the government.

      Anyone who sees a crime and does not oppose it is culpable.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 07:41 PM • permalink

 

    1. One of the main findings of the report, Consuming Australia, is that the more people earn, the more they spend

      For Christ’s sake, the rich really have become the bete noir of the left. Half the time they’re being whinged at for earning too much and keeping it, the other half, they’re moaned at for earning too much and spending it!

      Posted by TimT on 2007 08 19 at 07:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hey, I am doing my part, I don’t buy the SMH.

      And I am willing to sell y’all carbon credits so you can have all the credit of me not buying the SMH.

      Posted by David A on 2007 08 19 at 07:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Modern liberalism is the lazy man’s philosophy. You don’t have to do anything but feel and moralize.  You don’t even have to take note of reality!  And, best of all, thinking and acting—along with the responsibility—are left to others.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 08 19 at 07:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. #54 Thanks Wimpy, that is a great relief.
      The cows are standing in the rain eating the grass but most of the water is soaking into the ground on its way to the aquifers.
      Praise be to Gaia!

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 08 19 at 07:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. 53, Paco.  The power of self-deception is strong in that one.

      Posted by aaron_ on 2007 08 19 at 08:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. #55 continuing

      Just reading the next two episodes…

      This gets much more depressing … and in England!

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 08:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. The sooner we switch to Soylent Green the better.

      Posted by noir on 2007 08 19 at 08:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. Is nitrous oxide a greenhouse gas? Because this shit makes me laugh.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 08 19 at 08:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. OK, OK I’ll do my bit does anyone want to share a shower with me to save water?

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 08:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. Wendy doesn’t seem to understand that her column is a product no different from beer and CDs. Newspapers are major consumers of water, power and carbon fuel, mostly in the manufacture and transport of newsprint. Ink too, needs water and chameicals not to mention the water and electricity used to print something as monstrous as the SMH. And let’s not forget the trucks delivering newspapers to newsagents.

      Wonder what Fairfax management thinks of one of their staff urging people not to buy … newspapers?

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 08 19 at 08:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. #56 paco

      #41 From Quiggin:

      One bogus memo is enough to turn George W. Bush from a scrimshank who used his family connections to line up a cushy billet to avoid war service, and then shirked even that, into a war hero.

      I.e., the memo was fake but true. Idiotic AND unoriginal, Perfesser.

      Not only that, those phoney memos were the entire evidence of what Quiggan is claiming to be true. Bush “shirked” nothing. Besides, not one person I know of has ever claimed Bush was a “war hero”. He himslef certainly has not (unlike that pompous martinette John Kerry).

      Perfesser Quiggan is a pathetic lying ass.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 08:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. More Kruddites groping around in the dark.

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 08 19 at 08:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Gah!

      Should be #53, not #56.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 08:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. ::sigh::

      Too many typos in my #66 to correct them all…

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 08 19 at 08:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. STOP. All people.

      This 5-part article in the Guardian is important as it is written by someone like me, or maybe you, who used to be a socialist but has heard the sound of reality.

      And published in the Grauniad no less. This is potentially very important.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 09:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. #64 1.618 How could I possibbly not want a shower with you? Of course! Where are you? Ogilvie and Byron?

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 09:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. #21 Real_J, she can strip and wander under my “tent” any time she wishes … to a “atone” for her sins, of course.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 09:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. “..pathetic lying ass.”  looks okay to me Spiny.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 08 19 at 09:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #39 do they come in golf balls?

      For you, whatever sort of balls you want, I’ll provide.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 09:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #24 Mr.Whip, hae you not heard of the evil Canadian Maurice Strong? He currently hides in China to avoid prossecution (or electr-ocution)

      This man has been running around for 3 decades purveying his personal p0hantasms.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 08 19 at 09:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. #9 Paco: Regarding the Nudes on Ice, I’d like to see somebody defrost and re-animate the latest caveman found in Switzerland, learn his language and ask him his opinion on people protesting the diminishment of glaciers. I’d imagine a response something like this: “Are you people out of your f##king minds???!!”

      Posted by Tommy Shanks on 2007 08 19 at 09:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Should we shoot all of the buffalo and cattle in Montana and Wyoming?  I’m just asking because I’m confused as usual.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 08 19 at 09:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. Stop watching the ABC/BBC etc!

      Posted by Rob Read on 2007 08 19 at 09:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #63 According to irrefutable sources, nitrous oxide is the world’s third biggest greenhouse polluter.

      Impressively, nitrous oxide has 296 times more impact on global warming than the equivalent weight of CO2 and is released into the atmosphere by soil cultivation.

      This is yet another area where third world types and hippies can help us out by cutting back on their food intake.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 08 19 at 09:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. OK, OK I’ll do my bit does anyone want to share a shower with me to save water?

      Not to save water. You will be more spic and span than you ever thought possible (possibly some parts more than others) although you might feel a little dirty at the same time. Unlike Wimpy, I’ll even bring my own towel.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 09:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. Careful, 1.6, there seem to be some types around here who may have misconstrued your innocent plea to do your bit for the environment.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 08 19 at 09:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. If I rip a bellowing calf from its distraught mother am I an environmental warrior? I need a ruling.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 08 19 at 09:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #64
      and I’ll bring you a towel, too. Solid color or a print?Really, it would be quite embarassing when you suddenly realized Wimpy Canadian’s initials are WC. Laughing at the poor boy while in the shower could traumatize him for life.

      just looking out for WC’s best interests,
      Col. M.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 09:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. It is only with hindsight that I now realise that the stern Yorkshireman who would watch the boys showering after P.E was not a perv, but in fact a conservationist ahead of his time. Maybe I can get him his job back.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 08 19 at 09:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sigh.  That little reminder of this event led me to redo some research.  Results not good and led me to send this e-mail.

      Greyhawk, this post by John Quiggin, http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/19/beaucoup-de-beauchamp/#more-6133 , reminded me of the episode of the misrepresentation of Brigadier Ed Butler back in October, http://www.mudvillegazette.com/archives/006785.html.

      At the time, a quick google search of Brigadier Ed Butler easily provided me with the relevant context and I was able to show how wrong the presentation of the Brig. was.  IIRC, I was able to read the full transcript of the media briefing.  I was also able to see that the issues the Brig. faced in Afghanistan were not due to Iraq as suggested by the Guardian.  However, the same search today leads to a sea of posts following the guardian narrative.  The transcript of the briefing and proper context are no where to be seen.

      More than just blogging about these incidents, we need to provide permanent links to the full and proper context lest they be lost forever.  I wish now that I had linked the transcript that I read.

      Posted by aaron_ on 2007 08 19 at 09:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. some types around here who may have misconstrued your innocent plea to do your bit for the environment

      I can only assume you are referring to Wimpy. I assure you, Margos, that I am sincerely interested in her shiny, wet, sparkling cleanliness.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 09:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. Re: Nudes on Ice

      Every schoolyard kid is supposed to know that you don’t stick your tongue to the flag pole.  Do nudes on ice stick to the glacier?  That could be some spectular mass exfoliation.

      Inquiring minds want to know.

      Posted by fresca on 2007 08 19 at 09:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. What you people don’t understand about the New Republic, Quiggin, Dan Rather, Mary Mapes et al. is this: It isn’t about the truth, but “The Truth(tm).” The Truth(tm) is much more important. Facts? Schmacts; they only get in the way of telling The Truth(tm).

      Posted by Tommy Shanks on 2007 08 19 at 09:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Further considerations on the shower option.

      I think its time for the guys in the audience to holdout for the “Bangkok Massage” shower just to show our eco-. sensitivity.

      What could be more Gaia friendly than that?

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 08 19 at 09:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. The “comment is free” should be worth a laugh at the gruinaid. 200+ comments castigating the author of the piece referred to.
      Heres the link.The comments are good, never has the lack of a coherent statement about what is the “left” been so clearly exposed. They are as confused as a Rudd in a room full of stripping journalists.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 19 at 09:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. Nudes on Ice.

      The mind picture somehow includes ice skates…

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 09:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. Nudes on Ice.
      The mind picture somehow includes ice skates…

      and a little more skill than the ability to undress and lie down. Too much effort involved in actually skating. It is much easier to “do something” without actually doing or accomplishing anything.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 09:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. #92

      Of course, silly me.

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 09:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. #66: The link to the massacre of Yazidis is an example of fake logic, too. The Yazidis are an obscure sect living in a remote region of Iraq on the border with Syria. They are without natural allies among the principal Islamic sects, and have little or no political power. The incident was brutal and tragic, but as an attempt at a “Tet Offensive” type of propaganda victory, it was an inadvertent demonstration of weakness on the part of the terrorists, and further proof that the only places that the Islamic radicals can hope to defeat the U.S. and the Iraqi government are in the international press and the American congress.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 09:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. Details about how they did the glacier shoot here, including the use of cotton slippers.

      Incidentally, Greenpeace has consistently opposed the use of genetically modified cotton, a stand that contributes to the need for more water use and larger areas for cultivation.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 08 19 at 10:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. The question every AGW evangalist avoids?

      How many people do we kill to save” the earth?

      I really want to know. Has anyone seen this come up as anything other than an ignored question?

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 19 at 10:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. The Colonel hears a cry from across town and changes his name to Scotch n’ Raw Meat.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 08 19 at 10:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oh dear, just ran into this on the Comsec (shares) site. I dont think I can link it directly but Ill try Here.

      Honest Al is coming to Sydney to spruik shares in his company. You can win tickets to see him perform. I assume he will be coming by carrier pigeon in order to minimise emissions??

      Some excerpts in case the link doesnt work.
      “Win tickets to see AL GORE speak
      20 Aug 2007

      New sustainability fund through Colonial First State – plus win tickets to hear Al Gore and David Blood speak in person!”

      “Colonial First State recently formed an alliance with Generation Investment Management LLP (`Generation Investment Management’) – a London and Washington based global equities investment company, co-founded by Al Gore, former US Vice President, and David Blood, former global CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management.”

      “Sustainability investing isn’t a feel good exercise. Rather, it’s an investment approach designed to maximise investment returns. It’s the explicit recognition that economic, health, environmental, social and governance factors can impact a company’s long-run performance and therefore must be systematically integrated into the investment process. Generation buys high quality businesses, whose securities are attractively priced, with strong management teams that they believe best understand and respond to these factors and have the potential to deliver out-performance over the long-term. Sustainable investing is fundamentally different to ethical or socially responsible investing”

      “As part of the launch of Generation in Australia, Colonial First State will be hosting a special event during September, offering guests the opportunity to hear in person from two of the world’s pre-eminent authorities on sustainability and investing – Al Gore and David Blood. The Sydney event will be held on Wednesday 19 September 2007 and the Melbourne event on Thursday 20 September 2007.

      Here’s your chance to win one of five double passes to either the Sydney or Melbourne events. All you need to do is register your interest by 5pm Sunday 2 September 2007 to receive information on the new Generation Global Sustainability Fund and tell us in 25 words or less why you think sustainable investing is important. To read the full terms and conditions of the competition click here.”

      Yup no snake oil for honest Al. Hypocrisy Al is thy name.
      Sorry about the length, but the news page probably wont work without a login, and its worth looking at in full if you can for its naked capitalist approach.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 19 at 10:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. #98: tell us in 25 words or less why you think sustainable investing is important.

      Because it’s always best to get in on the ground floor of these scams, so you can ultimately cash in before the pyramid collapses.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 10:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. #93

      I had an art teacher in college that participated in some get-naked-for-a-cause protests.  He’d bring back stacks of pictures.  He taught figure drawing so at first I thought it was a legitimate interest in the human form. Until he came back from his Caribbean vacation with about 6 pictures of his ex-wife and daughter and about 250 pictures of girls in thongs. He was giddy as he explained how he’d used a box camera to take the pics discretely and against the resort’s rules.

      In about 30 seconds he went from a difficult but likable eccentric to a sleazy creepy perv.

      I seriously doubt his devotion to any causes that he got naked for.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 10:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. paco

      Competitions closed, we have a winner!!

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 19 at 10:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. Playing around glaciers can be dangerous…

      Gaia’s Revenge.

      Miraculously, noone was seriously injured.

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 19 at 10:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. In most (if not all) industrialized countries, Big Government is the biggest consumer.

      Yet you never see these people calling for Big Government to consume less….

      Posted by Ted Schuerzinger on 2007 08 19 at 10:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. #96 How many people do we kill to save” the earth?

      I really want to know. Has anyone seen this come up as anything other than an ignored question?

      I’ve asked.  For apocalypse predicting prophets of doom they are remarkably optimistic.

      Basically, if everyone does exactly what they say then no one will suffer. Often the key is to use more ‘enlightened’ resource management (ie produce what they say only, because everything else in unneeded). If things don’t go well then that means you didn’t do it right. More utopian idiots.

      The worst are those that think sustainable farming and sustenance farming are the same thing. They’ll explain that everyone should have and tend a garden to feed themselves. Yet, somehow, they have never had a garden themselves and have a very idealized view of the time, effort and land a self-sustaining garden would take. I impressed a lefty friend with my garden last year. When I mentioned the sweat I put into weeding it etc she looked at me like I was speaking swedish and said “but you do that to make it look nice, you don’t have to do that for it to grow”

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 10:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. #101: Thanks, frollicking. No brainer, really; that comes straight from the mission statement of Paco Enterprises.

      Posted by paco on 2007 08 19 at 11:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. LOl. Wimpy, and the Colonel I’m facetious today lovely ones.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 11:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. 74. LOL

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 11:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. #104
      Doh! I meant subsistence not sustenance. Doh!

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 11:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. I’m facetious today lovely ones.

      Whew! I’d nearly left for the airport!

      your lonely, pathetic and always interested in cleanlines colonel,
      Col. M

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 08 19 at 11:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yes Colonel, a good bubble bath makes the world go around.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 08 19 at 11:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. That nudes on ice picture made me yearn for the good old days of 15 inch monitors.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 08 19 at 11:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. and high dot pitches.

      I never pitched any dots but what the heck.  Had a decent fastball and a forkball but I digress.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 08 19 at 11:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. Wendy Frew Has a Message for
      the People Who Don’t Matter:
      In case you were wondering who
      The problem is – baby, it’s you.
      If only you’d die,
      You’d offset what I
      And friends of mine eat, drink, and do.

      Posted by lyle on 2007 08 20 at 12:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Now That She Thinks About It,
      Wendy Likes the Idea Even Better:
      Go poison yourself, have a stroke,
      Or inhale an egg roll and choke.
      Your small sacrifice
      Would be sorta nice.
      I’m serious, why don’t you croak?

      Posted by lyle on 2007 08 20 at 01:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #41 My eyes!!!

      I can’t believe I actually read that drivel and half the comments.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 08 20 at 04:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. #113 & 114
      Thanks, Lyle, they’re brilliant!

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 20 at 04:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. #53, paco,

      A thoroughly dishonest article representing the shabbiest form of intellectual prostitution.

      I was trying to decide how best to describe the slimy, slick-and-slide way that fellow twists words and now I don’t have to.  Thank you and well said!

      Posted by Janice on 2007 08 20 at 04:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. Lyle, great stuff!!

      INSTANT RESPONSE:
      It is undoubtedly true
      that Lyle’s biggest virtue
      Is that he can rhyme
      With technique sublime
      And poke fun at idiots too.

      cheerio.

      Posted by carpefraise on 2007 08 20 at 07:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Wendy Fondly Recalls Rachel Corrie

      When that dozer dozed Rachel flat,
      I got a big thrill out of that.
      She’s one with the Earth.
      Her offset was worth
      A full year of feeding my cat.

      Posted by lyle on 2007 08 20 at 10:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. #19 –

      My favorite line from that article so far is the quote from Naomi Klein: “To buy is to be. To buy is to love. To buy is to vote.”

      She says that like it’s a bad thing.

      Posted by Achillea on 2007 08 20 at 01:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. Lyle, I hope a large volume of lylemericks is due for publication soon.
      I like to get my Christmas shopping done early. Please put my name down for 10 copies.

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 08 20 at 05:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. Skeeter, that’s nice to hear, but these poems have a very short shelf-life, about one day. Can you imagine trying to explain the context?

      Maybe I could write Limericks for All Occasions – taunts, death threats, character assassinations, insults, sexual harrassment…

      Posted by lyle on 2007 08 20 at 07:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. #122

      Many people wouldn’t qualify for the character assassination.

      For that they must have character.

      Posted by kae on 2007 08 20 at 07:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #123

      True, kae. But there’s always death threats.

      Posted by lyle on 2007 08 20 at 07:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. Why don’t the lefties just stop buying anything.  I would start with food and bottled water.  Then in about 4 weeks, the entire overpopulation problem should be solved.

      Posted by Room 237 on 2007 08 20 at 08:14 PM • permalink

 

  1. #96 thefrollickingmole –

    The question every AGW evangalist avoids?

    How many people do we kill to save” the earth?

    Let me get back to you.

    (wronwright begins counting)

    Let’s see.  Let’s start with Hamas.  Then Hezbollah.  The Iranian Revolutionary Guards . . .

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 08 21 at 07:00 AM • permalink