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Last updated on August 4th, 2017 at 07:47 am
Alleged wikicopying at The Age.
- I don’t have a problem with this. Wiki is more likely to be right than the Age anywayPosted by Pickles on 2007 07 19 at 07:49 PM • permalink
- The word from Media Watch researchers is that this item won’t appear because Allah doesn’t will it.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 19 at 08:01 PM • permalink
- MM, what MW researchers are you talking about? I thought they relied on informants.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 08:13 PM • permalink
- This is disgraceful! How dare Wikipedia rip off an Australian journalist! </moonbat>Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 07 19 at 08:21 PM • permalink
- I thought most of the SmAge hacks were wiki contributors anyway?
Just look at the rapturous bile about Loonig.
Posted by Jay Santos on 2007 07 19 at 08:30 PM • permalink
- They couldn’t even rip off something interesting. Looooooosers.Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 19 at 08:31 PM • permalink
- Death to America!
Death to Jews!
Death to dead white males!
Death to plagarists!Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 19 at 09:14 PM • permalink
- He’s innocent. Haven’t you heard the expression great minds think alike? After all, if an infinite number of chimpanzees type for an infinite amount of time, wouldn’t they produce the entire content of The Age? Of course, it wouldn’t take very long to do the editorial page.Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 07 19 at 09:19 PM • permalink
- #1 – Now that’s just cruel. But, yeah…Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 19 at 10:12 PM • permalink
- Transferring content from Wiki to The Age. Like dragging dog shit from the lawn to the living room.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 19 at 10:14 PM • permalink
- IT, I rate Wikipedia over The Age for accuracy by a long margin. It would be more akin to ripping a page from an encyclopedia and wiping a pig’s arse with it.
My first thought is that both are copying from the same source – some company PR brochure or press release for instance.
Posted by Mr Hackenbacker on 2007 07 19 at 10:22 PM • permalink
- Maybe Ian’s the author of the Wiki entry. It could happen.Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 19 at 11:09 PM • permalink
- Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnap”) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into one’s own without adequate acknowledgement. Unlike cases of forgery, in which the authenticity of the writing, document, or some other kind of object, itself is in question, plagiarism is concerned with the issue of false attribution. Plagiarism can also occur unconsciously; in some cultures certain forms of plagiarism are accepted because the concept can be interpreted differently.
Within academia, plagiarism by students, professors, or researchers is considered academic dishonesty or academic fraud and offenders are subject to academic censure. In journalism, plagiarism is considered a breach of journalistic ethics, and reporters caught plagiarizing typically face disciplinary measures ranging from suspension to termination. Some individuals caught plagiarizing in academic or journalistic contexts claim that they plagiarized unintentionally, by failing to include quotations or give the appropriate citation. While plagiarism in scholarship and journalism has a centuries-old history, the development of the Internet, where articles appear as electronic text, has made the physical act of copying the work of others much easier.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 19 at 11:12 PM • permalink
- They couldn’t even rip off something interesting. Looooooosers.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 11:16 PM • permalink
- Here you go, Ian. Next time, try these: “ “.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 11:17 PM • permalink
- But is it “almost plagiarism?”Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 11:17 PM • permalink
- Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnap”) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into one’s own without adequate acknowledgement. Unlike cases of forgery, in which the authenticity of the writing, document, or some other kind of object, itself is in question, plagiarism is concerned with the issue of false attribution. Plagiarism can also occur unconsciously; in some cultures certain forms of plagiarism are accepted because the concept can be interpreted differently.
Within academia, plagiarism by students, professors, or researchers is considered academic dishonesty or academic fraud and offenders are subject to academic censure. In journalism, plagiarism is considered a breach of journalistic ethics, and reporters caught plagiarizing typically face disciplinary measures ranging from suspension to termination. Some individuals caught plagiarizing in academic or journalistic contexts claim that they plagiarized unintentionally, by failing to include quotations or give the appropriate citation. While plagiarism in scholarship and journalism has a centuries-old history, the development of the Internet, where articles appear as electronic text, has made the physical act of copying the work of others much easier.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 11:18 PM • permalink
- Good points, there TRJ.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 19 at 11:18 PM • permalink
While plagiarism in scholarship and journalism has a centuries-old history, the development of the Internet, where articles appear as electronic text, has made the physical act of copying the work of others much easier.
Yup! You’re right, MM.
Sorry, everyone—- I just wanted to see what it’s like to plagiarize. Now, if you will excuse me, I need a long shower…..
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 19 at 11:19 PM • permalink
- “And I would of gotten away with it, if it weren’t for that pesky internet.”Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 19 at 11:20 PM • permalink
- A couple of weeks ago there was an article in The Australian about Boeing’s new Dreamliner. As I often do I checked Wikipedia to get more detail. It was no surprise to find most of the Oz’s technical description had been lifted from Wikipedia.
I suppose the Wikipedia material might have originally come from a Boeing press pack, but it was a bad look oall the same.
Same with new weapons systems – when ever some whizzbang new thing is mentioned in the press a good part of the item seems to have come from Wikipedia.
Posted by walterplinge on 2007 07 19 at 11:29 PM • permalink
- Obviously the Age journalist forgot the old newsroom maxim: to steal from one source is plagiarism to steal from many is research.
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 20 at 12:58 AM • permalink
- For the 4th time
Media Watch Web Page error.
“Got a tip, please tell media watch”
Media watch please place below the image on the right as digitaly modified, as you are misleading the public into thinking that these three men have agreed to advertising your program.
Are they aware of your manipulated image that is appearing on OUR ABC media watch program website?
Have you paid Kevni rudd for appearing on this website?
Do we Dobb information to Kevni or Joe Hockey or Kosheeee?
Failure to highlight the manipulation could result in the Islamic Reuters Award for best Scam.
- Re #14:
re # 14:
i was reading a review of a book about the typewriter, my companion for 25 years. it traced the origin of the ‘how many monkeys to recreate Shakespeare on the keyboards’ and in some simulation the monkeys actually managed three words from the Gentlemen of Verona, but also it would take them 20 trillion times the age of the universe to type, ‘to be or not to be, that is the question’. anyway some experimenter managed to set up some typewriters and trained the monkeys and they went hard at it. the scientist was astounded to find that their initial output was Henry iv pt 2 , word perfect, and they followed up with Coriolanus and half the sonnets. very perplexed, he discussed it with a colleague who sd, dont worry, according to the laws of probability, they will have to start typing gibberish eventually.
- Golly, I didn’t know that plagiarism was such a big deal.
Just up the road we have a university administration that’s trying to fire a professor (that would be Ward Churchill) for a variety of deceits—including plagiarizing the work of other scholars. After two years, he’s still drawing a salary courtesy of the taxpayers.
Mr. Churchill was originally hired, in part, because of his minority status as an American Indian. Unfortunately, a search of his family tree comes up with no evidence to back up his claim. His defenders say that Mr. Churchill honestly thought that he was an Indian so that ought to count in his favor.
Yesterday the ACLU issued a statement asking the board of regents not to fire Mr. Churchill on First Amendment grounds—I’m not sure how plagiary is a protected freedom but then I’m not a lawyer or a university professor.
If and when he is ever shown the door you can bet things will drag on in the courts for years and eventually the university will cough up even more cash to make it all go away.
- #39: “His defenders say that Mr. Churchill honestly thought that he was an Indian?” Not sure how they can justify that assertion.
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