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Former Liberal leader and dodged bullet John Hewson joins the carbon cult:

What we’ve got to do is make it a significant shift in the structure of our economy and the easiest way to do that, the most obvious economic solution to doing that is to put a price on carbon. Once there is a price put on carbon so that people are costed for the impact they have by way of carbon emissions on our atmosphere, then the whole industrial and social structure will respond … I think it will be the single biggest economic and social revolution this country’s probably seen in its history.

That was a few days ago, on the ABC. Those views may not have been appreciated by certain groups connected to Hewson. Monday:

Dr John Hewson has resigned as Chairman of the Touring Car Entrants Group (TEGA), the body that owns 75 per cent of V8 Supercars Australia.

(Via Anthony L.)

UPDATE. Hewson, a budding biodiesel baron, could find this interesting:

A renewable energy source designed to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions may be contributing more to global warming than fossil fuels, a study suggests.

Measurements of emissions from the burning of biofuels derived from rapeseed and corn have been found to produce more greenhouse gas emissions than they save.

Posted by Tim B. on 09/25/2007 at 08:40 PM
    1. Jeebus, is Dr Nuisance suffering attention (from others) deficit disorder?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 08:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Why don’t they just tax Moose instead? All in favour say ‘Aye’. The “Aye’s have it.

      Posted by Nic on 2007 09 25 at 08:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. These Carbonistas are idiots if they actually beleive a price on Carbon will change behaviours. Recently got a return flight from Adelaide to Sydney and Virgin.com.au asked if i wanted to offset my flight. I clicked it out of interest. the offset charge was $1.69. yup, i can really see that changing my behaviour on a $100 flight.

      Idiots the lot of them. Carbon taxes do nothing to change bahaviours, all they do is give us the mistaken belief that we have paid for our sins. And at $1.69, i guess i am supposed to belive the sin was not that great!

      aguycalledbrad.blogspot.com

      Posted by aguycalledbrad on 2007 09 25 at 09:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. How about taxing immigrants from the 3rd world, since they will consume more once they arrive in the 1st world?

      And tax children, since they consume and will grow up to consume more and have little consumers of their own.

      Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 09 25 at 09:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. People, we’re carbon.  These idiots want to tax our flesh now.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 09 25 at 09:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. user pays hey?  tax oxygen!!!

      Posted by peter m on 2007 09 25 at 09:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. #5 #6 Don’t think they won’t.  Large people will need to pay more too.  Nothing surer…  <here I should declare a conflict of interest>

      Posted by Big Jim on 2007 09 25 at 09:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. Carbon no longer free?  You can’t be serious.  Are they proposing that the next time I fill my car up with gas I’m going to have to pay for it?  That electricity will no longer stream into my home without charge?  Fucking hell!  The next thing you know they’ll be asking me to pay for my fiancee’s engagement diamond.

      Bastards!

      Posted by Conrad on 2007 09 25 at 09:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. Former Liberal leader and dodged bullet John Hewson joins the carbon cult

      Ah, but there’s a good reason for that:

      JOHN HEWSON: I’m involved in several businesses responding to the challenge of climate change. Building bio-diesel plants, for example. We’re in the process of building the largest bio-diesel plant in the world. Bio-diesel is only in its infancy as an industry. We’ve done this without any government subsidy, government assistance. I’m involved in a business that makes energy efficient light bulbs. The Government has mandated all incandescent bulbs will be banned beyond 2009. Mandation is something I don’t normally agree with but in this case…

      Mandation (is that even a word?) is something I don’t normally agree with but, hey, if there’s even a slim chance I can profit from it…

      Interesting discussion on how best to use your sizable tax surplus. ‘Course, I don’t think governments should run a surplus and if it happens, the money should be returned to the people from whom it was squeezed, but what do I know. As the once and future Bill Clinton told us, sure, he could return the surplus tax revenue to us taxpayers, but then he couldn’t be sure that we’d spend it “the right way”.

      BTW, I predict this whole biofuels scheme will evolve into one of the biggest messes we’ve ever created for ourselves.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 09 25 at 09:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. #9
      Cripes, he beat Paco Industries to it … quick!

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 09:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yet another Al Carbone …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 09:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. I must say, however, that Hewson’s tenure has been in doubt at v8 HQ for quite some time, given the upheaval going on there.  To link it with his recent comments on carbon pricing is a cheap shot … well not really, but nice timing!

      Posted by peter m on 2007 09 25 at 09:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. This global warbling thing is looking more and more like a cult. Its followers all need to be deprogrammed; I suggest they be transported to Antarctica and left there with the message “This is the world without global warming. The world you want, remember?”

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 09 25 at 09:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. What’s next? A ban on spaghetti carbonara?

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 09 25 at 09:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Its simply another revenue stream.

      BTW, an exhalation contains 4.4% carbon dioxide.  So with an average breath of 2 liters and a rate of 30 breaths a minute yields over 3800 liters of CO2 a day per person.

      I’m seeing another revenue stream.

      Posted by Lonetown on 2007 09 25 at 09:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Dr John the CarbonTripper must have a line on a yurt development plan for the outskirts of Sydney.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2007 09 25 at 10:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. #12.

      ”…To link it with his recent comments on carbon pricing is a cheap shot…”

      Of course it (his resignation) had NOTHING to do with a massive conflict of interest?

      RIIIIGHT.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2007 09 25 at 10:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. #15
      Its simply another revenue stream.Yup, Paco Industries has to get in on the ground floor.

      Akin to selling carbon pardons …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 10:06 PM • permalink

 

 

    1. In the transcript linked, one Eva Cox says, in connection with the budget surplus, “I want to spend it carefully and wisely. I want to make Australia fairer and more civil, because I just think we’ve lost a lot of our social connections.”

      Well, Eva, for the paltry sum of one million dollars, I’ll fly to Australia and be civil to you for a whole year. Doors opened, cloaks thrown over mud puddles, groceries carried into the kitchen, cars washed – you name it, kid!

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 10:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Ah.  I see this bit of socialese must be translated for all you right wing flying nut death monkey beasts:

      Once there is a price put on carbon (productivity) so that people (the most productive) are costed (??) for the impact they have by way of carbon emissions on our atmosphere (their self-generated wealth is distributed to the non-productive have nots), then the whole industrial and social structure will respond (this whole evil free market capitalist structure will come crashing down).

      Understand now?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 09 25 at 10:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hewson is a fraud.

      He’s obvioulsy rent seeking to sell his environmentally friendly light globes at 200% mark-up. The Bio fuel firm he is invloved with is also working along the same lines.

      Posted by ice on 2007 09 25 at 10:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hewson will have to prize my diamonds from my cold dead hands, er fingers.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 09 25 at 10:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. #18
      Gotta add Clean Coal* to the Clean Effluent Division (don’t mention Bulgaria).*We can paint that dirty European brown coal black, for starters …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 10:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Once there is a price put on carbon so that people are costed for the impact they have by way of carbon emissions on our atmosphere, then the whole industrial and social structure will respond”

      Film of industrial and social structure responding to Hewson plan.

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 10:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20
      Hewson’s view of Cox: sucker?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 25 at 10:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Also, more exciting footage of Ahmadinejad and Columbia University President Lee Bollinger in New York!

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 10:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #14 Cuckoo.

      You just made me laugh coke out of my nose. I’ll be sending you a medical and cleaning bill.

      Posted by Penguin on 2007 09 25 at 10:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. I hope this works out as well for Dr. John as his last tax plan.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 09 25 at 10:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. #10: Are you kiddin’? We’re way ahead of this bozo.

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 10:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. BTW, “mandation” refers to the phenomenon of a boy’s voice changing and to the, er, hormonal causes thereof.

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 10:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. #30 Is there anything, anything at all, that Paco Industries isn’t involved in?

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 25 at 10:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Lunch is ready. You’re all invited.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 25 at 10:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Anyone got a link to the YouTube video of the phone call John Boy took from the TEGA CEO? I’d pay money to watch it.

      Posted by Hanyu on 2007 09 25 at 10:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. 32 Ash_

      #30 Is there anything, anything at all, that Paco Industries isn’t involved in?

      If I may speak for our Dear Leader….NO.

      The heart of Paco Worldwide Enterprises, Inc. is…well just as our motto indicates…We are a hands on organization. In that steam stream of thought…Anything and everything we can get our hands on, the better.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 25 at 11:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. #28 You mean Coca-Cola, right?

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 09 25 at 11:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #35 I’m beginning to fear Paco Industries El Cid, and I’ll explain why.

      It’s a huge, international conglomerate. That bit isn’t the scary bit. It’s that it’s Right Wing, and therefore under the control of Karl Rove. But that’s not the scariest bit.

      The scariest bit is that it must be evil, and have the view that all dissent must be crushed. Therefore, if I think something that the Dark Lord doesn’t like, I’ll be snatched from my bed in the middle of the night.

      [/moonbat]
      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 25 at 11:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. People, we’re carbon.  These idiots want to tax our flesh now.

      Speak for yourself. I’m a Horta.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 09 25 at 11:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. #14
      Isn’t that Al’s skinny, Italian cousin, who likes bacon?

      Posted by kae on 2007 09 25 at 11:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. We’re also on top of that whole bio-mass thing.

      Whole world . . . coulda been Willie Stark Paco . . .

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 11:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Bwahahahaha!

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 11:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. OT: the bruvvers are marching in Melbourne.  This morning’s dead-tree Age confidently predicted a turnout of 30,000.  The online version says 15,000.  Real number anybody’s guess.  No confirmed sightings yet of kiddies in strollers.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 09 25 at 11:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20

      I don’t think you’d want to, Paco.

      She also wears comfortable shoes.

      Posted by kae on 2007 09 25 at 11:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43: “You name it, kid!” was just a figure of speech. But just to be on the safe side, let’s forget the whole thing. Money isn’t everything (Whoa! Did I say that?).

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 25 at 11:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. Dr Hewson,
      Could you please explain the price impact your carbon pricing scheme will have on a birthday cake.

      Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 09 25 at 11:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. #44

      Money isn’t everything

      The sacrifices that you may have to make in that job are just not worth it for a mere million.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 25 at 11:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. #44
      I warned ya, Paco.
      No matter what, just remember, I warned ya.

      Posted by kae on 2007 09 25 at 11:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. Ok I’ve got a half burnt match here that I’m willing to let go for half price. As I understand it if you bury it at least ten feet deep (aprox. 3.3 meters) in thirty thousand centuries it should be sequestered in a satisfactory manner. Now according to Algore it should be buried in the equatorial rain forest in order to refrain from its being caught up in the boreal carbon replenishment cycle. (Commonly referred to as ‘Forest Fires’). Transportation will be provided by the purchaser.

      This advertisement has been peer reviewed in the Journal of Politically Aligned Conservation Organizations

      Posted by Mike H. on 2007 09 25 at 11:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. #44
      It was a scary photo, perfectly understandable that you have become a bit, er, unbalanced by seeing it…

      Posted by kae on 2007 09 25 at 11:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. “This is a weally wadical pwan for weducing the tewibble warming that is taking pwace on our wondewful pwanet. It’s a also a weally good way for a failed dead shit like me to get my pointy bonce back on the tewewision and all over the newspwapers.”

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 09 25 at 11:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. I prefer to live in a state of suspended mandation myself.

      Maybe he was drunk and got it confused with the Mandan Indian Nation.  Who knows.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2007 09 26 at 12:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. 37 Ash_

      I’ll be snatched from my bed in the middle of the night.

      God that is…ummm, well…so open for interpretation, yea that’s it…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 26 at 12:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. 43 kae

      Who the guy in the pic?

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 26 at 12:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. Who’s

      Lost my S. Course it’s small, anyway.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 26 at 12:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #52 Now I’m curious what possible ways you interpreted that El Cid.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 26 at 12:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. #50 Infidel – Hmmm…John Hewson: I remember him well from listening to him (on rare occasions) during his stint at MGSM.

      Some pointers to the man …

      6 May 2002 – Dr John Hewson appointed Director of Macquarie Graduate School of Management (MGSM) Scroll down to September (no link to article)

      Professor John Hewson (MGSM): wrote an opinion piece, saying that he can’t help but feel that to some extent the events in remembrance of September 11 have been manipulated to facilitate the presidential desire for what George Bush believes is a justified invasion of Iraq, Australian Financial Review, 13 September, 2002.  Scroll down to September. (no link available)
      John Hewson Corporate Bully – Telstra and Caltex strike back at Hewson’s ratings agency – April 2003.
      The curious case of Dr John Henson – Feb 2004.  From this story…… if (only) he had his way….. and that about sums it up!

      More of the same – April 2004

      Enough – these articles say it all.  Does anyone care what Hewson says or does?

      Posted by Wand on 2007 09 26 at 12:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. At last, they plan to tax the air that I breathe

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 09 26 at 12:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. Apropos of nothing, I just busted open a bag of Jack Links jerky. Holy Christ, is it good.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 09 26 at 12:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58 You’ve just made me hungry.

      Must go forage in cupboard for food.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 26 at 01:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dave S, you’re in charge of food and stuff.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dave S, you’re in charge of food and stuff.

      As long as I’m still in charge of guns and things.

      Actually, with guns and things you can get all of the food and stuff you want.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 09 26 at 01:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. Yep, guns and things is your section. I think I could an interesting 1/2 page on this topic.  It will be on the way soon for you to think about.

      Ashy, do you think is grumpy at us making our own little paper?

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. Sounds good “Guns and Things” by Dave S.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ashy, do you think Tim Blair is grumpy at us making our own little paper?
      I think we could have Blairman cartoon in the edition as well.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. No, 1.618, I don’t. I think he’ll read it for a giggle though.

      Almost finished scripting the baby page.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 26 at 01:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. Awsome. Giggle? Tim Blair, our 1.618 paper is serious news.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. p.s. Ashy I will try to work on our project over the weekend, I want the first edition to be sharp and something we can be proud of. Kae send your stuff to ashy so we can print it. ta.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. I still need a spell checker person!!!

      hands up who wants to do that?

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. gtg x

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 09 26 at 01:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. OK 1.618. I’m great with Photoshop too, if you need anything like that done.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 26 at 01:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. In the transcript linked, one Eva Cox says, in connection with the budget surplus, “I want to spend it carefully and wisely. I want to make Australia fairer and more civil, because I just think we’ve lost a lot of our social connections.”

      Eva Cox is an elderly extreme-left spinster feminist and single-mother whom the ABC contacts whenever they need a social commentator. She is an academic.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 09 26 at 01:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. Of course John Hewson would join the carbon cult!  He’s exactly the type who would.

      Isn’t lots of filthy lucre to be made?  Aren’t all second tier ex-politicians jumping on that potentially even more lucrative bandwagon?

      John Hewson is just a bit late doing it, that’s all.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 09 26 at 02:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #72
      Hewson, the carbon copier …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 02:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hewson putting na price on something?Didn’t his last attempt at pricing cost him an election?

      Posted by watty on 2007 09 26 at 02:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #74.

      Sure did, Watty.  He lost the unloseable election.

      His track record since hasn’t been that great either.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 09 26 at 02:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hewson who?  Sections of the media say that Kevin Rudd is having a honeymoon run with the electorate, well I say that he is having a true Christian honeymoon.  It is only his wife that is getting screwed.

      Posted by Howzat on 2007 09 26 at 02:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. OT the further adventures of mohammed

      Posted by KK on 2007 09 26 at 03:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. If you all type GORE AND ENRON into Google you will see that Enron were all for Kyoto so that they could start carbon trading as a way to rip people off.Maybe Hewson is about to launch a business like Gores and will make a squillion scaring the crap out of everyone…well nearly everyone!!!!!!!!

      Posted by Peter F on 2007 09 26 at 04:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #38 Dave S. –

      People, we’re carbon.  These idiots want to tax our flesh now.

      Speak for yourself. I’m a Horta.

      I’d bet 99% of the usual commenters immediately understood and laughed at Dave S’s comment.  Which tells us we all grew up watching Star Trek after school.  All things considered, a nice preparation for life.

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 09 26 at 05:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. What a useless silly ass John Hewson was!

      Now if we could only get rid of Malcolm Turnbull; another know-it-all elitist who spits the dummy when the electorate doesn’t do what those of noble mind and huge intellect (self-assessed) think it ought to do.

      Posted by Janice on 2007 09 26 at 05:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. He’s still a useless, silly ass.

      Posted by kae on 2007 09 26 at 05:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. It’s iron that people ought to be worrying about.  The greenhouse metal.  The ferric footprint.

      Everything transmutes to iron eventually.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2007 09 26 at 05:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. If one can thank Keating for anything it is keeping Hewson out of the Lodge. Hewson, like Latham, now has the status of a dodged bullet.

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 09 26 at 06:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. Labor recruit unpopular with women: poll

      The footballer’s wife also knows SFA about AWAs …

      C/- Auntie FFS (& Bolta)

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 06:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. #81, kae,

      Indeed.  You’re right.  Some things don’t change.

      Posted by Janice on 2007 09 26 at 07:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ahem. I say. Is this one of those right wing blog-thingys that refuses to engage with Australian Politics? I suppose you’re going to mill about and hurl some vile, bile flavoured abuse, and then adjourn to the pub for some sort of gotcha knees-up. I know about you lot, and I’ve got my virtual eye on you, so there!
      (MarkB)

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 09 26 at 07:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear MarkB,

      Go away, please.  You bore me.

      Posted by Janice on 2007 09 26 at 07:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. 86# Would that be your virtual brown eye.

      Posted by Howzat on 2007 09 26 at 07:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #57
      That long tall woman in a black dress might take your breath away …Great riffs

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 08:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. long cool woman …
      apologies for the scambling

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 08:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. and the spellung n all

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 08:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. This would be the perennially bitter reliably Howard hating Dr Hewson the ABC wheels out whenever they want to appear balanced.
      Dr Hewson 2003:
      Who knows what goes on in John Howard’s mind. His middle name is Winston – I guess there is an element of that… But I’ve got to tell you, I don’t think the US alliance is worth this. I think we would still have a very strong alliance if we weren’t there. Being a lap-dog to the United States or as he says, deputy-sherrif to the United States is an outrageous concept
      no bandwagon is safe from this man

      Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 09 26 at 08:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hold the presses- everyone’s favourite Wiccan Road Rager has turned up like the proverbial bad dinar in the commentary at the Meeja Witch-Hunt site, contributing his valuable insight into the Phat Phucks barefaced bollocks- apparently Catallexy is a neocon tool of the VRWC, not a mild centrist/libertarian group blog that veers to the right about as much as Conrod Straight.

      I’m surprised he’s got time for such activities with all the action he’d be scoring through Lava Life.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 09 26 at 08:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. #93
      De bile of de niall …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 08:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. #93
      Maybe Phatty is so deluded that he thinks he’s Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense … chillingly interviewing phantoms

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 26 at 08:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. #93: She writes, with respect to conservative bloggers’ take on Adams, “Indeed, just about any derogatory nominative will do . . .”

      Well, not quite “any”. I doubt that we would refer to him as a “lean, mean propaganda machine”, or “the swan-necked kommisar of media agit-prop”.

      Posted by paco on 2007 09 26 at 09:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #57—At last, they plan to tax the air that I breathe

      Oh, New York City had that, or something much like it, covered long ago. In addition to taxing income, sales, use and property, NYC taxes “space”. If you occupy “space” in a hotel room, you pay a tax additional to the customary state/local sales taxes. If you occupy “space” in the city for business purposes, you pay a tax—additional to the customary income, property and use taxes—for the “privilege” of doing business in New York. If you rent “space” in which to conduct that business, you pay an additional tax for that. I don’t know why they haven’t as yet instituted taxing the air we breathe (i.e., a carbon tax), but I’m confident it’s high on their agenda.

      I can just hear the truthers’ reaction to the film linked by Paco #25: “Now that’s how a building collapses when it hasn’t been wired for controlled demolition by Chimpy McBushHitler and his evil flying monkey minions!”

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 09 26 at 12:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. where people are costed

      Costed? Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, what language is that supposed to be?

      Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 09 26 at 02:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Jeez, I figured Niall the Numbnuts would have been done in by revenge seeking Vietnamese hitmen by now.

      On the other hand, it is in the stars and portents that Zombies still walk the Earth . . . . . . .

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 09 27 at 12:37 AM • permalink

 

  1. I don’t care how much greenhouse gas a biofuel produces as long as we can grow it in Queensland instead of importing it from Saudi Arabia.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 09 27 at 06:48 AM • permalink