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A note from Paul Bickford to the ABC:
Is there any intention to air the recent Ch 4 program The Great Global Warming Swindle? It has been very popular, and while I have seen it online, many people don’t have access to broadband and are thus only given one side of the story.
The ABC’s reply:
Another Australian TV network has acquired the rights to broadcast this documentary.
We can probably rule out Networks Seven and Ten.
Controversial Brit docu “The Great Global Warming Swindle” has sold to Sweden’s TV4 and Australia’s Channel 9, while the U.S. network ABC and France’s TF1 are among other broadcasters taking an interest.
- Alright! SBS! You do mean SBS, don’t you?Posted by andycanuck on 2007 05 14 at 12:44 PM • permalink
- Well, you know it’s real, AGW, when three Australian Universities have banded together to create a “Centre” to study the phenomenon of AGW and it’s effects – and to look at solutions.
Monash, ANU and, and, I can’t remember the third – was it Adelaide?I just heard the cha-ching of taxpayer funding so I missed some of the details.
- #1 You mean the “Sex Between Soccer” network?Posted by surfmaster on 2007 05 14 at 04:07 PM • permalink
- Does anyone know if/when it will be shown on free-to-air TV in Oz?
We dont have satellite because we believe that the vast amounts of smoke etc produced during the launch (usually by the evil USA)are a major contributor to global warming which is clearly revealed truth, plus the little ray things which fry our brains which we must keep pure to worship God Gore and his Son PeterG
Cheers
RodC
- #2 kae
Monash, ANU and, and, I can’t remember the third – was it Adelaide?
Unless there is another one it’s UNSW, I’m ashamed to say, where I studied many years ago. Actually I was looking at coverage of this junk in the Alumni magazine that arrived in the post the other day and I see that it is available on line.
Latest Alumni Magazine. Scroll down to page 12 to read “Leading the Way on Climate Change” – A New UNSW Centre is Taking Research on “One of the Biggest Threats Facing Humanity” to A New Level, Reports Bob Beale.
Also you may have noticed recently a few advertisements for UNSW along these lines with the individuals positioned across the ad like sentinels from Easter Island. Good grief, what nonsense!
- Maybe it’s PBS? There is a Polar Bear South TV network in Australia, isn’t there?Posted by andycanuck on 2007 05 14 at 06:32 PM • permalink
- #4 Rod C
You can download a copy if you like. Links are provided at the JunkScience Website. Scroll down – see left hand side pane.
I downloaded a copy some weeks ago with Google video player, mind you the file is about 500 MB so you would need broadband to download it.
And say, how about these actions to become Green as suggested at Junkscience? I love them:
1. Reduce staff carbon emissions to pre-1956 levels by 2156, if not sooner;
2. Plant a tree by 2110;
3. Avoid spicy foods to reduce personal emissions;
4. Open canned sodas slower;
5. Petition Home Depot, Lowes and other plumbing suppliers to sell carbon sinks;
6. Recycle environmentalists into biofuels;
7. Increase personal use of ethanol derived from grape biomass and various grains and cereals (very popular);
8. Use more solar energy by taking longer beach vacations (also scored highly);
9. Commence R&D to turn environmentalist hot air into the primary source of energy for San Francisco; and
10. Turn the background of JunkScience.com’s home page green (see, we’re ahead of schedule!).
- Channel Nine’s 43 Minutes just had to inform us that millions of dollars are going from one state [Queensland, of course] to pay fraudsters in Lagos. Big Important Storyland.
Now let’s wait for them to have a segment on The Global Warming Frauds.
Sadly, even when informed, the conned idiots appear to still send their money to Nigeria.Sounds like the Gaia/Gore-worshippers are the same people, with the same gullibility.
- Did you hear Fran on RN trying so hard to put anti-Howard words into the mouth of an expert on global warming and pollution?
Shades of the George Negus Syndrome.
After listening carefully, the expert simply said –‘Well I haven’t heard that from the Government’ and went on to say that its policy was actually sensible and practical.
ABC Water Fountain Research yet again, Fran?
- At least they called it a documentary. It must have hurt for the ABC to call it that. I am surprised that the reply didn’t come from the Dept for the Dissemination of Malicious Propaganda.Posted by mr creosote on 2007 05 14 at 07:19 PM • permalink
- This from former ACTU secretary Bill Kelty, concerning his portrayal in ‘Bastard Boys’ and whether he would sue or not.
‘in particular I would find it abhorrent to take on the ABC – it would be like suing my mother’.
So is it any wonder the media department of the ACTU/ALP, would even go against its own idealogical line and screen ‘The Great Global Warming Swindle’. Talk about a balanced broadcaster and we are robbed via taxes to fund this outfit.
- #4
the vast amounts of smoke etc produced during the launch (usually by the evil USA)are a major contributor to global warming which is clearly revealed truthBut ze nasty Amerikan satellite manufacturers are using Kyoto-friendly French Arianne rockets to launch some of their birds … the most recent being ASTRA 1L this month, built for the Europeans (PAYTV) ‘course.
- #4, #10 etc. A good a time as any to repeat my offer to send a good quality DVD version of The Great Global Warming Swindle to anyone in Oz (or NZ), free of charge.
Just send an email to:
brett.mcsweeney@unitedgroupltd.comI’ll cancel the offer only if/when it is shown here on free-to-air.
- #23- And I’d like to thank Brett for his generosity- I’ve been passing the DVD around like billy-o since it arrived, and have converted a couple of waverers. I knew the whole thing was a scam beforehand, but the demolition of the house of cards that is anthropomorphic climate influence was total. Unfortunately I think it’s going to cost us a shitload of cash before punters get bored with this and move on to the next panic. Wish I could think of an angle to lighten the carbon-heavy wallets of the perpetually indignant and congenitally stupid.
- I will be handing out copies of the swindle on DVD including two additional related one hour documentaries at the upcoming film night.
- Just went to another CC seminar at lunchtime. It is really irritating how the most extreme outcome is constantly emphasised. They quote a forecast temperature change of 1-6 degrees, without pointing out that the worst case scenario has a range of 2-6 degrees, median 4 degrees, but this would require no tenchiological change, and maximisation of greenhouse production, and all global warming casued by anthropomorphic sources! They then concentrate on the 6 degrees forecast as the impact to be worried about. Nevermind that most scenarios have outcomes of less than 2 degrees.
They then show expected predictions of temperature and rainfall for Australia. For South East Qld, that would be a warmer and drier winter, and a wetter summer. Why am I the only one who thinks that might be beneficial?
I am surprised that the reply didn’t come from the Dept for the Dissemination of Malicious Propaganda.
Oh, no, mr creosote, that section of the ABC has been taken over by the Portfolio Against Conservative Operatives. And, you’ll be pleased to know, PACO International (Australia) is suing them for copyright infringement.
Posted by andycanuck on 2007 05 14 at 11:43 PM • permalink
- I sent this in to Crickey last week in response to a commenter who suggested ABC’s AGW guru Robyn Williams couldn’t possibly have said that sea levels may rise by 100 metres by the end of this century –
Richard McGuire (11/5/07) states, “That either Flannery or Williams would make the statements attributed to them, a six metre sea level rise in thirty years and a one hundred metre sea level rise this century, quite frankly beggars belief. I don’t know if either Flannery or Williams have responded to the Bolt article. If they haven’t they should do. The exchange between Williams and Bolt was supposed to have occurred on radio. A transcript must exist somewhere.
Richard, a transcript does exist. Not surprisingly, it’s on the ABC science show website. An excerpt: “Andrew Bolt: I ask you, Robyn, 100 metres in the next century…do you really think that? Robyn Williams: It is possible, yes.” I could refer to scientific journal publications that point out that if every last piece of ice on earth melted it would not go within cooee of raising sea levels 100 metres, but it would be pointless. The debate is apparently over, no further correspondence will be entered into and if Robyn Williams says it is possible that sea levels may rise 100 metres then I suppose we should just flagellate ourselves and accept it as a given.
They printed it but for some reason left out the finishing sentences –
“I have taken all knowledge to be my province”, Francis Bacon, 1592. A sad, very sad legacy to the founder of the scientific method.
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 05 15 at 12:07 AM • permalink
- Have you seen the BBC production of Robin Hood on the ABC? Its like the worst PC writers from The Bill have been given Oscars and told to GO FOR IT!
The thing is framed in a witty PC hectoring tone, the analogies so obviously trendy-lefty, SO relevant to the war and gender peace politics don’t you know.
Makes my skin crawl that actual Australians at the ABC could utter this mental colonisation stuff to us.
- JJJ had a “reply” to andrew Bolt’s outing on their current affairs show Hack yesterday, including an appearance by Robin Williams, he of the 100m sea level rises.
After much bluster and blab, claiming to be only a journalist and not a scientist, who only repeates what he’s told by those who know more, finally admitted that the 100m figure is at the extreme range and the likelyhood of it occuring is miniscule (matching the intellect of believers); this was from the badgering of a junior ABC staffer who attacked Williams with all the vigour and venom of a bush baby in a pink ribbon (but was a bit more eager to push a barrow with Bolt). MP of the Bolt interview here, follow-up here (you’ll need to wade through about ten minutes of other bollocks if you can be arsed).
Williams admitted that the 100m claim was scaremongering, on his home ground with a tame terrier pissing in his pocket; just think how flimsy the rest of the outlandish and inflamitory claims about goebbels wartening would finally be revealed to be if the promoters were subjected to real and intense scrutiny, and the requirement to produce empirical evidence?
Al Gore would deflate like an air matress in a cactus patch.
- Habib,
in a Hack a few weeks ago some wankers basically equated Holocaust denials to Global Warming denial.
Ex-fucking-use me…
Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 05 15 at 12:23 AM • permalink
- #31
Williams attacked Bolt in the subsequent program, too.
Yours truly downloaded the mp3’s in case the transcripts ever get edited …
- Off Topic – The Times on John Howard:
He became a Liberal MP in 1974 and was rapidly promoted in the right-wing Menzies government, becoming Treasurer within three years.
- #35- Heard that one, and it also equated GW denialism skepticism with mental disease, or at beast the same denialism that manifests in the face of hideous trauma or irecoverable loss.
I think the reason these twerps use “denial” rather than “skepticism” (or in the face of warmy marketeers like the Goracle, cynicism) is that the use of the former infers ignoring a fact, either to avoid unpleasant realities or for personal gain, wheras the latter infers a healthy disdain for a scenario or claim that is lacking in evidence to support same.
One would think people of reason, science and logic would normally fall in the latter, and the hysterical, superstitious and gullible would be the supporters of the unsupported.
In this case though, the matter of support has more than one dimension- if you’re reliant on government or the previously mentioned chicken Little types for support, you’re going to tend to pander to their neurosis.
BTW- I reckon some locallised anthropomorphic warming would be just ticketty-boo, starting with Tikrit, Felluja and Tehran- a boost to the daily mean temperature to about 2 million degrees celcius would improve these locales markedly, and make them much more fit for human and animal habitation.
- ‘Williams admitted that the 100m claim was scaremongering, on his home ground …‘
Exactly what does this imply about the credibility of this man, who also boasted to Bolt that he ‘read 40 science journals a week’.
Extremism and wild assertions in the cause of Coldening is no scientific crime, eh Robyn?A superb public example of what we are all saying here – scientists and their egotistical clones are just as capable of talking gullible scrap as anyone else, if it suits them.
- Here are some Washington Post articles from the 1970’s. I purchased three of them but there are in pdf form. I can’t convert them to text because I only have acrobat reader.
Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age
Scientists See Ice Age In the Future
The Washington Post, Times Herald (1959-1973) – Washington, D.C.
Author:Washington Post Staff Writer, By David R. Boldt
Date:Jan 11, 1970
Section:General
Document Types:front_page
Text Word Count:865Get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters–the worst may be yet to come. That’s the long-long-range weather forecast being given out by “climatologists.” the people who study very long-term world weather trends.link
Whither the Weather? The Answer Is Blowing in the Wind, Maybe
Preview Examining Whither the Weather
The Washington Post (1974-Current file) – Washington, D.C.
Author:By Tom Zito
Date:Feb 24, 1975
Section:STYLE People/Entertainment/Leisure
Document Types:article
Text Word Count:1256Either we freeze or we fry. The facts are ominous: We’re on the brink of another ice age; the dust spat out by our factories and automobiles and by the erosion of the earth is coalescing into a monstrous airborne global umbrella that blocks some of the sun’s rays and lowers the earth’s overall temperature.link
The Future: New Ice Age or More of Same
The Washington Post (1974-Current file) – Washington, D.C.
Author:By Stuart Auerbach, Washington Post Staff Writer
Date:Feb 16, 1975
Section:ECOLOGY
Document Types:article
Text Word Count:1349The world’s turbulent climate is causing a debate among weather scientists about whether another Ice Age is near or whether generally benign weather conditions of the past century will continue for 15,000 years or more.link
Some Ominous Changes In the Worlds Weather
The Washington Post (1974-Current file) – Washington, D.C.
Author:By Tom Alexander
Date:Mar 10, 1974
Section:OUTLOOK Editoials Columnists
Document Types:editorial_article
Text Word Count:3643FOR SEVERAL YEARS now, odd and unpleasant things have been happening to weather around the world.link
- #20 If it does show on SBS there will be some major cognitive dissonance happening in moonbat land. In other words business as usual…
I disagree. I’ve always thought that if any Oz network shows it, it’ll be SBS (time will tell).
It’s as full of PC types as the ABC but, unlike the ABC, manages to surprise me and show something that runs counter to the usual line.
Anyway, hope however has it shows it soon!
- O/T
Anyone else see the crock of shyte letter in The Australian from our jumped-up muffin of ‘Straylia?
I’m about to trawl into the comments there…
- #46 kae, try this one on for size.
Catmeat thinks he’s as aussie and as steadfast as Ayers Rock aka Uluru.
“I will persevere and be as strong and firm as Uluru,” he said. “I’m heartbroken that we have more than one snake in this community.
“Hatred and grudges don’t make better human beings or a better society. If God chooses to raise a person, no one can bring him down.”
It’s believed the sheik has been inundated with community support to return to the mosque as its head imam, with his supporters threatening to boycott the Lakemba Mosque.
“I don’t want this to happen,” he said. “This is pressure from the community and I have to listen to the people.”
The sheik has not given a sermon since November, when he came under fire for comparing scantily clad women to uncovered meat.
He said he never wanted the mosque to be drawn into the debate and believed that at the time the best thing was for him to stop speaking until the situation eased.
I need a bucket. This pos makes me want to throw up.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 05 15 at 04:19 AM • permalink
- OT: I found Bickfords “humour” on his site about “retards” pretty offensive.Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 15 at 05:03 AM • permalink
- This reminds me of the great New Yorker cartoon showing two dogs sitting in front of a PC and one saying, “Nobody knows you’re a dog on the internet.”Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 15 at 05:44 AM • permalink
- I’m going to sleep at my desk today!
Wake up, dearie, it’s home time!Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 05 15 at 06:40 AM • permalink
- Woof. Or perhaps Warp.
In any event there is litle reward in complaining to the ABC. They might reply with supercilious disdain, or some other dismissive device. I have no instance to relate (for my own efforts) of any reply which correctly addressed the complaint. The message is perhaps “don’t bother us dearie; we are focussed on things far beyond your ken, and besides that, we don’t give a stuff”.
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