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Former British conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith on blogging:

Mainstream TV can no longer say what it wants without fear of correction. Online diaries, written by teachers, soldiers and numerous other people with real knowledge of subjects, are fact-checking ill-informed broadcasters …

You would also expect this electronic revolution to be good for the Democrats, but the American left’s relationship with the internet has been disastrous. The internet has sunk a knife into Bill Clinton’s moderate Democratic party … The site of a Democratic consultant gets 500,000 hits a day. That site’s memorial to four American contractors murdered in Iraq was “screw them”. Hatefulness also pours out of the popular websites of Michael Moore and

Hatefulness … and madness! A DailyKos operative believes he has located the connection between Jeff Gannon and the bogus CBS memos:

It now appears that Jeff Gannon could be the thread that unravels the real story behind the TANG/CBS forgeries. I have put together a case here that if looked at carefully by the blogosphere would show that the TANG forgeries were made by the White House, probably Dan Bartlett, and then given to Bill Burkett by a former associate of Karl Rove, Roger Stone.

It’s so obvious! Meanwhile, the New York Times reports that journalists at Gannon’s relatively unknown level aren’t unusual at White House press conferences:

Mr. Guckert’s nom de plume, Jeff Gannon, and the Talon News service he worked for did not set off any alarm bells in a room that also includes a representative from The Corporate Crime Reporter, The India Globe and Les Kinsolving, the host of a provocative radio talk show.

“This is an irritant that we deal with, people who try to hijack the briefing for ideological reasons,” said Ron Hutcheson of Knight Ridder, president of the White House Correspondents’ Association. “A few people are in there just to get across their points of view. But it’s the kind of thing we put up with, because nobody can quite figure out how to deal with it.”

Tip to DailyKos: that India Globe guy was the second gunman. Think about it. Wheels within wheels, my friends.

(Via J.F. Beck)

UPDATE. Senior “Political” “Editor” for CBS “News” Dotty Lynch: “When Jeff Gannon, White House ‘reporter’ for Talon ‘News,’ was unmasked last week, the leap to a possible Rove connection was unavoidable.”

(Via LGF)

UPDATE II. Dotty’s article, now under the headline “Rove-Gannon Connection?”, was originally titled “Karl Rove’s Warning to GOP”. Who ordered that it be changed? Who? And where is my toast? Where?

Posted by Tim B. on 02/19/2005 at 01:27 PM
    1. A small number of times in my life I’ve had personal knowledge of some newsworthy event. In every case, the press got many significant facts wrong. There was also one occasion where I was interviewed for a story, and a number of my quotes were used, but all attributed to someone else! I was never mentioned

      Given this, I’m surprised that I’m so surprised by the level of ineptitude in the press that’s been exposed by the internet.

      I guess that’s how it is when I’m reminded daily instead of once every few years.

      Posted by tim maguire on 2005 02 19 at 04:19 PM • permalink


    1. I envision a sketch comedy bit about a lefty waking up one morning and seeing the hand (well okay, face) of Karl Rove everywhere:  inside of the toilet lid, rear-view mirror, office microwave, etc.  Kinda like the FNORDs.

      Around midmorning he begins to feverishly create a Visio document connecting the dots, more animal than man now.

      Posted by tachyonshuggy on 2005 02 19 at 04:24 PM • permalink


    1. Gee…. maybe Ms Lynch will get some photos faxed to her from an anonymous source of Rove and Gunner getting it on. Why the hell not?

      I actually saw a post that was lifted off of some idiot lefty blog that went so far as to suggest that Bush was having sex with the man. Gunner not Rove.

      Eason Jordan accuses soldiers in a combat situation of murder and that is not worth talking about, but they can all get together to harass this poor bastard.

      Posted by terryelee on 2005 02 19 at 04:56 PM • permalink


    1. I think I just saw a vacuum, Regeneration Man’s mind, if you look “carefully”.

      Posted by J. Peden on 2005 02 19 at 04:56 PM • permalink


    1. #1 byrd – I’ll go you one better.  I was interviewed for a story (human interest/puff, not hard news); the “reporter” (press flack?) sent me the story before publication expressly for me to look over and correct any errors.  I sent her back 2 important FACTUAL corrections long before her deadline.

      Of course, as you’ve already no doubt guessed, they printed the original story sans corrections.

      The one other time I was interviewed, they also made multiple mistakes.

      I haven’t trusted the press in decades.

      Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2005 02 19 at 05:18 PM • permalink


    1. IIRC, this Political “Editor” at CBS “News” was also part of the team that produced the infamous 60 Minutes Bush TANG “memos” story, was she not?

      Wheels within wheels, indeed.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 02 19 at 06:07 PM • permalink


    1. I can go a bit further than byrd, I’ve been a “witness to history” around a dozen times in the last decade or so.  The “journalists” reporting got every factual detail, major or minor, wrong.  They were wrong on dates, times, places, numbers, who was the aggressor, who was the defender, who won, who lost and the final score (we’re not really talking sport here but the analogy holds).

      I’ve also had bizarre conversations with the journalists involved in which they asserted that what was reported was, in some sense, more “true” than what I witnessed with my own eyes.

      With all due deference to Tim, I place very little trust in the reports of journalists.

      Posted by Russell on 2005 02 19 at 06:08 PM • permalink


    1. I could have sworn somebody called No Tagbacks.

      Posted by Jim Treacher on 2005 02 19 at 06:24 PM • permalink


    1. Off topic, but the blood has just finished flowing freely on the ABC’s “Insiders”.
      Bit early to find the transcript but look here.

      Posted by Boss Hog on 2005 02 19 at 06:52 PM • permalink


    1. I once took some journalism classes with Clem Lloyd who, as some might remember, worked for the old Daily Mirror for years and years.  He said the only safe thing to say to a reporter is, “No comment”.

      Posted by Janice on 2005 02 19 at 07:14 PM • permalink


    1. Boss Hog:

      “Off topic, but the blood has just finished flowing freely on the ABC’s “Insiders”.
      Bit early to find the transcript but look here.”

      YES! They lynched that little bottom feeding Jacques Verges wannabe! I’ve never been happier to have accidentally watched the ABC, the MSM just took a step towards redemption. That interview/interrogation was a textbook example of Taqiyya in action. Too bad the transcript can’t capture Hopper’s expressions of shock and his attempts to speak as slowly as possible to prevent further incriminating questions being asked.
      The transcript should be posted here soon enough:

      Posted by AussieJim on 2005 02 19 at 07:24 PM • permalink


    1. I feel I have been a witness to history today too!
      The Insiders on ABC did not give any free rides. Except to some guy on a beach, who should have been the one struck by lightning, instead of that Irish tourist!
      Hopper’s taunt to Andrew Bolt about “pretending to be a journalist” was a wild and improbable tactic, and got what it deserved.
      Pretence of innocence is the main game being played.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 02 19 at 08:06 PM • permalink


    1. I expect the following to be uncovered, in time, by all the ace reporters currently digging up dirt on Gannon:

      – Connection between the fake moon landings and one of Gannon’s ex-lovers who has known the ‘truth’ for years and will be writing a book with Gannon

      – Grainy picture has been enhanced and it looks like Gannon was on ‘the Grassy Knoll’

      – One of the last phone numbers Marilyn Monroe dialed was Gannon’s

      – Gannon is really one of the Roswell Aliens the government has been lying about for decades (This is his secret to being so old and looking so young)

      – Gannon was in Paris, near the tunnel, the night the Princess of Wales was killed. Was he working for the CIA?

      I’m sure there will be many more revelations as this ‘investigation’ into Gannon continues.

      There MUST be some Illuminati, Masonic, Tri-Lateral, Templar, ‘Joos who control all’, etc. connections just waiting to be discovered.

      Posted by CJosephson on 2005 02 19 at 08:06 PM • permalink


    1. Why can’t the Left figure out that if Bush and Rove are so powerful and omniscient, we actually _want_ them running things?

      Posted by Foobarista on 2005 02 19 at 09:30 PM • permalink


    1. “Why can’t the Left figure out that if Bush and Rove are so powerful and omniscient, we actually _want_ them running things?”

      Plus, WHY would they use someone like Gannon? Nobody else available?

      Even if you buy the whole blackmail thing (Lefties say Gannon blackmailed someone on Bush’s staff to gain access), Bush and Rove would want to put as much distance as possible between themselves and Gannon.

      I’m sure two ‘grand plotters’ like Bush and Rove are supposed to be could have figured all this out. However, Bush and Rove are seen stupid when it fits the plot. So, I guess it was ‘stupid’ Bush and Rove who let themselves be vulnerable to someone like Gannon.

      None of it makes any sense except in the fevered imagination of some Lefty bloggers.

      Posted by CJosephson on 2005 02 19 at 09:49 PM • permalink


    1. It’s easy for me to mistake leftist imagination for a vacuum, I can tell you quite clearly. Amen, CJosephson.

      Posted by J. Peden on 2005 02 19 at 10:32 PM • permalink


    1. A counterexample re MSM journalists.
      I was interviewed – or at least, invited to send some e-mail answering questions – by a reporter for the Age, Adam Turner.

      He managed to boil down what I said while leaving intact the important stuff. He even checked with me afterwards before publication to make sure I was, if not ‘happy’, then satisfied I wasn’t being misrepresented.

      The article is here, and IMHO shows journalism at its best. All quotes accurate and in context, excess verbiage trimmed.

      Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 02 19 at 11:05 PM • permalink


    1. Off topic, but the blood has just finished flowing freely on the ABC’s “Insiders�?.

      I think the ABC are just annoyed because they can’t compete with channel 9’s cheque-book. In fairness to the ABC though, I don’t think they would have lost the opportunity to nail Hopper’s client over his evasiveness. They may be biased but “60 Minutes�? is a joke. I didn’t watch the interview on point of principle but I get the impression that they just wanted to get their moneys worth by airing the salacious torture claims and little else.

      Posted by Adam B on 2005 02 20 at 05:03 AM • permalink


    1. The REAL story here is that one of Kos’ Kool-Aid Kids actually agrees that the “fake but accurate” memos are fake.

      Posted by Some0Seppo on 2005 02 20 at 11:33 AM • permalink


    1. I was interviewed once, at some personal hazard, by a TV news bimbo who promised my face would be obscured for the segment.

      It ran that night, not only was I in full view but they keyed my name and rank over the spot.

      Life was interesting for a while.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 02 20 at 12:25 PM • permalink


  1. I’ve only had close or personal knowledge of three stories so far. The NYT is batting zero for two; the London Times one for one, although I didn’t know it at the time.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 02 21 at 10:57 AM • permalink