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The hated Israelis pulled out of the Gaza strip two years ago. Now desperate Palestinians are fleeing into Israel:
“If we went back to Gaza, Hamas would execute us,” said a 30-year-old man who gave his name as Abu Faras. “We don’t have the same ideology as them and they are shooting everybody who has different beliefs.”
Faras is among the victims; he was shot, Ed O’Loughlin reports, by gunmen from – wait for it – “a breakaway Fatah faction called the Popular Resistance Committees, now allied with Hamas.” Meanwhile:
Two civilians were killed during a protest held in Gaza City under the banner “Stop the Killing.”
- Are there more factions than actual population?Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 20 at 12:13 AM • permalink
- I’m confused – there appears to be no-one called Tim in this item.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 20 at 12:18 AM • permalink
- And the left support these murdering morons to the point of demanding a state.Posted by niobium2000 on 2007 06 20 at 12:21 AM • permalink
- Trickery! Evil Jew mind control! Poison bananas!
It’s more confusing than a David Lynch film, but without any boobs (female ones) to sustain interest.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 12:25 AM • permalink
- From the SMH:
The war in the Middle East has come to the inner west. Marrickville Council last night voted to formalise a sister city relationship with the City of Bethlehem Council, drawing fire from a Jewish community group.
The NSW Jewish Board of Deputies says the Palestinian council is controlled by the Muslim organisation Hamas.
“Their raison d’etre, as clearly expressed in Hamas’s charter, is the destruction of Israel and, worse than that, to kill every Jew,” the board’s chief executive, Vic Alhadeff, said yesterday.
But Haskell Musry, a Jew who attended last night’s meeting, said Mr Alhadeff did not speak for the majority. “I think most of the Jewish community would be unconcerned,” he said.
Mr Alhadeff said 10 of the 15 seats on Bethlehem Council were controlled by Hamas and allied parties. Bethlehem’s Mayor, Victor Batarseh, however, is a practising Catholic from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
The Marrickville councillor Sam Iskander, who put forward the idea, says he wants to promote peace and understanding.
A delegation from Bethlehem led by Dr Batarseh will visit Australia for a fortnight in August. Marrickville plans to present the delegates with gifts, host two dinners and hold a reception for the signing of a sister cities agreement.
Marrickville’s Mayor, Morris Hanna, said no money would end up in the hands of Hamas. “Our sister city relationships do not involve the transfer of funds to another country,” he said, adding that Sydney Palestinians were helping pay for the delegation’s accommodation.
Bethlehem already has sister city arrangements with 39 cities.
Marrickville’s deputy mayor, Peter Olive, said he did not think Hamas controlled Bethlehem. “I have heard concerns there’s a dwindling number of Christians but I think that’s attributable to things like the whacking great wall the Israelis have built around the city,” Cr Olive said. “So one could ultimately say the council is controlled by Israel.”
Cr Dimitrios Thanos voted against the sister-city arrangement because it was “just a travel jaunt.”
“But at the end of the day, Hamas is an elected group and the City of Bethlehem is entitled to vote for whoever they want.”
A spokeswoman for the Immigration Minister, Kevin Andrews, said if members of the delegation belonged to Hamas, they would not necessarily be denied visas.
Any visa applications from delegates would be subject to the usual health and character assessments, she said.
After meeting Mr Alhadeff yesterday, Leichhardt’s Mayor, Alice Murphy, said her council would pursue its relationship with the West Bank city of Hebron by raising funds for non-government organisations in the area.
- #7 – Said the Bishop to the actress…Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 12:30 AM • permalink
- Selling guns to Palestinians was always good business.
Now, it’s good sense, too.Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 06 20 at 12:52 AM • permalink
- I think it is time to provide both sides with more effective armaments.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 20 at 01:21 AM • permalink
- “If we went back to Gaza, Hamas would execute us,” said a 30-year-old man who gave his name as Abu Faras. “We don’t have the same ideology as them and they are shooting everybody who has different beliefs.” However, his sister Aisha has remained in Gaza and considers herself safe: “I am in both Fatah and Hamas, just like I’m both a Palestinian of Arabic descent and a woman. I’m 100 percent both.”
- This would be hilarious if it weren’t so pathetic.
Still, I’m with MM #17, so long as the armaments don’t include artillery or missiles.
Oh, and re #2, Ian, I expect that the Arab arms dealers will be the first offer a non stop supply of ammo to both sides, on a cost plus plus basis.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 01:37 AM • permalink
- It’s a good thing they don’t drink or things could get out of hand. They’ve also got their religion to keep them in check. Overall I’d say the outlook is positive. Give them a state now.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 01:38 AM • permalink
- OT:
Trendy lezzo-twat Kim, over at Lav Paper sticks the boot into Noel Pearson for being so, like not a real Aboriginal like:
Someone wrote on another thread about the hectoring tone of the government spokesthings lately. Pearson has that too. I don’t know where it came from, but when I saw him on the news just now, he sounds incredibly aggressive and patronising. It does make you wonder how representative he is and how far outside traditional norms of decision making within Indigenous communities he himself is.
- I’m sure its only a fraction of the faction thats causing all of the friction
It’s all a fiction, there’s no friction.
But there may be a ruction.
Posted by anonymous guest on 2007 06 20 at 01:41 AM • permalink
- But really, it’s government by teenage boys. The idea of power is really cool, but then when you get it you find out there’s all these nerdy homeworky things to do like provide services, balance the books, and being accountable. It’s so much easier to just go out skateboarding with your mates, except substitute “run around with automatic weapons playing tough guy and killing people who don’t do what you want them to” for “skateboarding”.Posted by anonymous guest on 2007 06 20 at 01:47 AM • permalink
- Great minds think alike , Infidel Tiger (#22).
It occurred to me as I was reading the article that it is just as well they don’t get on the turps on Saturday nights.
Imagine the fun with a few gallons of goon in the mix as well as the usual random gunfire, seething and howling from these barbarians.Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 06 20 at 01:52 AM • permalink
- Two civilians were killed during a protest held in Gaza City under the banner “Stop the Killing.”
That’s a tragedy, pure and simple.Posted by daddy dave on 2007 06 20 at 01:54 AM • permalink
- #23 – The gigantic smelly twat club a.k.a The Left, have always preferred to keep Aborigines as quaint, loin cloth wearing, museum pieces, in museums they wouldn’t ever visit.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 01:54 AM • permalink
- Behind them, Bedouin looters were dismantling the tunnel, stripping roofing and digging up pipes and wiring.
Interesting that that Age piece does mention this looting of the Erez Crossing, but neutralises its potential as bad PR for the Palestinians by attributing it to ‘Bedouins’. Did anyone check their looting licences?
- #30 and 31,
K-Twat is not the only one over at LP who believes that they know best, lefty Mark knows more believable Aborigines than someone like Noel Pearson.
The point is Pearson is brave to come out and tell a few home truths, but to the left, like Hirsi Ali, he’s criticised because he’s not espousing the right political methods.
First FGM and now poo-pooing attempts to stop child rape. Kim and her ilk are disgusting.
Two civilians were killed during a protest held in Gaza City under the banner “Stop the Killing.”
Well, duh! Everyone knows that effective protest slogans must rhyme. The should try : “Look at my head, hear what I said, go bake some bread, I’d rather not be dead.” (sorry, I have no talent for this)
Giant puppets help too.
Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 06 20 at 02:07 AM • permalink
- #34 – “We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!” Hmmm, maybe not.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 02:10 AM • permalink
- #23 I get a very strong feeling that the Kim-meister has absolutely no idea what the norms of traditional decision making within Indigenous communities are, but to suspend disbelief for a moment…
If Pearson is outside the norms of traditional decision-making, that is a great reason to listen very carefully to him. Here’s a tip: if something isn’t working, you try something different.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 20 at 02:13 AM • permalink
- #29 Unless there were a lot more peace advocates around than I would have guessed, that probably took out the whole population of them.Posted by Harry Eagar on 2007 06 20 at 02:25 AM • permalink
- When the term ‘failed state’ is used most people don’t seem to fully realise what it means. It means the rule of law and private property no longer applies. Eventually this means that children don’t attend school and over time they become unemployed youth and this and the general drop in skills means little or no output which means hunger and more trouble.
This is precisely a description of the Palestinian state today and for the last 20 years. How do you mend a broken state? Can you be bothered?
- Here, for the benefit of Kimbo, is some information about traditional decision making in indigenous communities. The information she wants is around the bottom of page 152.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 20 at 02:29 AM • permalink
- Do you think Kimmy will take up Pearson’s challenge?
- Let’s have another look at what one of the Green councillors said:
Marrickville’s deputy mayor, Peter Olive, said he did not think Hamas controlled Bethlehem. “I have heard concerns there’s a dwindling number of Christians but I think that’s attributable to things like the whacking great wall the Israelis have built around the city,” Cr Olive said. “So one could ultimately say the council is controlled by Israel.”
Peter Olive, a king amongst fucktards.
If you’d like to discuss the matter with one of Marrickville’s five Green and four Labor councillors (there are no Liberals) here are their contact details:
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- Noel Pearson wiki reference:
He has advocated for self-determination for Indigenous people and criticised approaches that keep Indigenous people dependent on welfare and disempowered in the name of “progressive” policies, a position outlined in his “Light on the hill” speech in 2000.
- #48,
Why would they bother when they know best?It shits me to tears to read of the usual well-fed and state funded, feminists such as Kim who are so very quick to dennounce sexism in the form of a demeaning advertising campaign but have no real concern about women in poor, rural communities being bashed and raped.
Oh, they ‘know’ Aborigines allright, a few half-castes with jobs such as ‘liaison Officer’ who wouldn’t dream of working in communities to make a difference. There is racism at work here in the belief that Aborigines cannot and should not make decisions about what is best needed for themselves unless it strikes the right ideological chord.
- The best weapon we have against these murderous fatwa spewing Islamic arseholes is to cut of any aid financial or otherwise. The UK, Australia and the USA give Pakistan plenty of aid yet they are calling for suicide bombers to take action against the UK for giving Salman Rushdie a knighthood. Live peacefully or PISS OFF and beg somewhere else. Let us see what happens in the Gaza strip, but I would not rushing to give Fatah too much aid, earn it you feckless morons.
- OT but following Tim’s link above to Little Green Footballs and scolling down I found video: National Lampoons 72 Virgins. “ Mockery: Jihadis hate it, a lot. Hence, we must.”
(Link to National Lampoon Site)
Link to National Lampoon Voting Page.
I’ve voted.
- Personally, the appropriate reaction to the Paleosimian civil war is:
1. Seat oneself on couch
2. Open beer, place at one’s right hand
3. Open large packet of chips, place at one’s right hand
4. Lean back and enjoy the fun of watching these satanic vermin from HAMAS and FATAH slaughter each other.It’s like Mad Max – for real, and it was deliberately created by the UN and the Left, both of whom (as devout practising racist entities) must have ‘little brown people’ to patronise and feel superior to, while they destroy them and make them aid-dependent.
Seriously, who did not see this coming at LEAST from teh early 90s when the foul and corrupt murderer and pederast Arafat deliberately destroyed the Oslo peace accords?
It is now at the point where the only thing left is to watch the inevitable slaughter. There is nothing else to do, it has gone too far. The Left and the UN, being unable to accept that they have created this mess, will then seek (as racists and anti-semites) to blame the Jews.
MarkL
canberra
- #47
Relief, however the howling will continue. Some say that justice has not been done. I’m pretty sure I saw Andrew Boe, who should know better, bleating on teev that it’s a well known fact that “Hurley killed Doomagee”.
I would like to hear more about the evidence, I think it’s more than possible that it was an accident. How does a senior police man in an aboriginal community suddenly go from well respected and liked to murderer? It doesn’t make sense to me.
- #45: Tim B – can we have a Pearson thread please?
I’ll support that, Pickles! Noel Pearson’s been a hero of mine for some time. He doesn’t hesitate to tell it like it is. Thankfully, his skin is black, which means he’s relatively safe from the more vicious attacks from the Left. Anyone with a different skin colour would be lambasted.
- Oh come on! Everyone knows that Pearson is Howard’s lickspittle stooge who’s a mouthpiece for the racist dog-whistlers in Canberra.
How can the noble savage be saved if you keep banging on about “laws” and “accountability” and “protecting children from savage alcoholic pedophiles”? Seriously, what would an Aboriginal lawyer know about any of these social engineering policies?
/snark
- I am sure the Israelis are not keen on letting refugees out lest they help a few Hamas fighters into the West Bank.
But Jimmy Carter still thinks Hamas is a good thing.
Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2007 06 20 at 06:16 AM • permalink
- I think they should get these people to run the Palestinian empirePosted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 07:42 AM • permalink
- #37 lotocoti-
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one who immediately thought of “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum”.
(I still crack up every time I think of the scene where the executioner is training the new guy in how to swing a mace…..)
I also suggest that Fatah and Hamas call a truce, merging into a new force for a better Palestine: FATASS
Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 06 20 at 08:28 AM • permalink
- #67: thousands of tonnes of aerosol prozac. We go in and take over the water supply, into which goes MORE prozac. Then we send everybody in for Re NEDucation! Before you know it cries of “infidel” and “die, whoever you are” will be replaced by “hidey ho!” and “neighboroni!”, and all the fellas will shave off all but their mustaches.
Oh wait, that’s cultural imperialism. Far better that the slaughter continue, after all, it’s an authentic and ancient culture, not like our horrible morass of a society.
- # 57. It is now at the point where the only thing left is to watch the inevitable slaughter. There is nothing else to do, it has gone too far. The Left and the UN, being unable to accept that they have created this mess, will then seek (as racists and anti-semites) to blame the Jews.
Well, that’s a Rightard for you, getting off watching less privileged people die (sigh)…hmmm, as for the UN and the Left creating this mess, well, yes the UN certainly did back in 1947 by sanctifying the Zionists terrorism (King David hotel anyone?) and ethnic cleansing. Not sure the Left had much of a role in that, but anyway, if you’re going to make such gross distortions of history then let’s not quibble over minor details.
Ah yes, the ‘Israel can do no wrong and if you disagree you are an anti-semite, even if you are a Jew yourself’ disclaimer. i wonder then if you can honestly say that Israel and the US have had no role in encouraging, arming, training and the Fata coup in Palestine?
- I’ll hate myself later for doing this….
Huck, the Paleos are entitled to elect a death cult as their government. The Israelis don’t have to like it. The West generally doesn’t have to fund it. A government whose only policy is to kill jews can’t last for long.
On a different theme, do you ever stop to wonder where the external arab support for the Paleos is? It would not take much oil money to support them. Where is it?
- This wouldn’t have anything to do with Israel, ‘The Only Democracy in the Middle East’ deciding it didn’t like the result of a democratic election in Palestine and trying to overthrow the legitimate government would it?
Is BBC69-The Kiddie Porn channel on the blink tonight?
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 09:05 AM • permalink
i wonder then if you can honestly say that Israel and the US have had no role in encouraging, arming, training and the Fata coup in Palestine?
No, mate, (C’mon Blairites, guess which context ‘mate’ is in) the Fatah-Hamas conflict is more to do with Fatah and Hamas each wanting power over the other, and just generally be incompatible with each other.
- Blogstrop at #60:
[Hamas killing people all over the place] will be of no concern to those who defend Hamas as “democratically elected”.
And as if on cue, there’s Huckabee. I know the “Beyond Parody” thread is elsewhere and deals with something else, but as usual leftards turn out to be beyond parody on pretty much every subject.
- Btw, isn’t the US, a ‘democratically elected’ government, killing people all over the place?
Yep just like they did in WW1, WW2, Korea and the Vietnam rematch.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 09:31 AM • permalink
- Will you place scare quotes around the Palestinian Fatah government as well, Huckabee? One has to wonder if you are rooting* for Hamas over Fatah.
Both are bloody handed, and directly responsible for the failed state of Palestine, but Hamas is clearly a terrorist organization made of religious fanatics not unlike the Taliban. Fatah, on the other hand, is a group of corrupt gangsters that use terrorism for their own end.
So I have to wonder if you favor Hamas over Fatah, given that you are defending it so diligently.
In any case, I must congratulate you on your taking moral equivilence to new lows with this:
Btw, isn’t the US, a ‘democratically elected’ government, killing people all over the place?
In one sentence, you compare the trained professional American forces who go out of their way to avoid unnecessary killing (often at the expense of addtional casualities) with a bunch of gun totin’ barbarians who will shoot a person at a peace rally, and imply that the USA is other than a democratic government.
I conclude that you are digging for ways to spin the latest and spectacular failure of lefties, ‘cuz it’s hard to ignore a civil war. Although Zeus knows you’re trying your best.
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*: Word used with American meaning. Huckabee’s personal habits are not under discussion here.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 10:00 AM • permalink
- BTW, speaking of secret CIA prisons…why aren’t there any people claiming to have been incarcerated in one of them? Everyone and their brother seems to have been abducted by aliens; you’d think a conspiracy of such profound dimensions as that which Bush et al. are accused of would have resulted in plenty of people claiming that they’ve “escaped from the secret prisons” by now.
Two possible conclusions:
– even our posturing fool friends on the Left don’t buy into their own delusions that much, or
– they believe that the secret prisons are administered with ruthless efficiency and nobody lives to tell about them, in which case I’m wondering why they still dare to wear “Buck Fush” t-shirts in public, let alone make Dubya-critical comments on the internet.
- Re #91, exactly right Ash. Huckabee waves the “American Dictatorship” flag to distract us from the Palestinian civil war, ignoring the frantic chiming of his/her irony meter. If it wasn’t already broken, I mean.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 10:05 AM • permalink
BTW, speaking of secret CIA prisons…why aren’t there any people claiming to have been incarcerated in one of them?
They get fed too well, PW. All that gourmet food, y’know, is really effective at crushing dissent.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 10:07 AM • permalink
- wronwright’s entry into the “Tim Palmer Is Shocked!” contest:
How come on. We need to ratchet up this civil war.
What Fatah and Hamas needs are spotters. Members of US special forces who are trained in looking through binoculars, infrared scopes, etc., and finding enemy combatants. And then saying “There’s a couple there. Shoot!”
We can provide the spotters to both sides. Get this war into some major action.
Posted by wronwright on 2007 06 20 at 10:32 AM • permalink
..if the opposition can win an election, it’s hardly a dictatorship, is it?
In the eyes of the left, who will argue that up is really down, yes, Ash. Because Emperor Chimpy McHaliburton Bushitler still sits on the American Throne™.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 10:59 AM • permalink
Oh the humanity.
It’s for their own good, PW. It is possible that cheescake with strawberries is haram.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 20 at 11:01 AM • permalink
- #103 Which would go with my Gaza Airlift plan mentioned earlier. Arm every single man, woman and child,(if that in fact hasn’t been accomplished by now) load ‘em for bear and turn ‘em loose. We could then use the Israeli’s mind control devices to implant
provocative taunts to each side and make them think the other side really said it.
Say, does anyone know where we could get a load of 2nd hand flame throwers?/moonbat RWDB paranoia
- I believe Fuckabee’s use of the term “Zionist entity” reveals that we have here a real live jihadi wannabe in our midst. Oh, not one of those who gets out in the field amid the actual blood and guts shooting, mind you. But one who sits in a dark room with a bag of Cheetos and a Pepsi and drops his little cyber-bombs and congratulates himself on what a warrior he is, and he really stuck it to those wingnuts, didn’t he, and wouldn’t dad be so proud of how clever he is (if only dad weren’t off banging the secretary).
My sympathy for “Palestinians” was used up long ago. They are the most belligerent, untrustworthy, ungrateful pack of liars and thieves in the world, and helping them is insanity. It’s like trying to pet a rabid dog. The smartest thing the world could ever do is bottle them up, deny them aid, and wait until it’s over, and then divide the survivors up among the Arab countries with the stern instruction to assimilate them. It should have been done sixty years ago, when they decided — they decided — not to live in a Jewish state.
- It’s worth remembering the last time the Palestinians tried to take over a country at gunpoint – Jordan in 1970.
Look where that got them.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 06 20 at 06:17 PM • permalink
- OO-er! A pro-fascist racist and troll!
#75
# 57. It is now at the point where the only thing left is to watch the inevitable slaughter. There is nothing else to do, it has gone too far. The Left and the UN, being unable to accept that they have created this mess, will then seek (as racists and anti-semites) to blame the Jews.
Well, that’s a Rightard for you, getting off watching less privileged people die (sigh)…hmmm, as for the UN and the Left creating this mess, well, yes the UN certainly did back in 1947 by sanctifying the Zionists terrorism (King David hotel anyone?) and ethnic cleansing.
Comment: ‘Getting off?’ Not quite. Resigned to the inevitable outcome of 59 years of UN dependency, patronising victimisation by the left which has created the most comprehensively ruined people on the face of the globe. So ruined they elected an openly terrorist government to replace the massively corrupt covertly terrorist government you slobberingly fawn on. Ethnic cleansing, eh? So Ben Gurion begging the Arabs to stay did not happen – even as a war of unprovoked aggression was launched by other Arabs? Guess history does not matter to you – oh, of course not, you are a leftard troll and a fascist and racist anti-semite by your own words.
Not sure the Left had much of a role in that, but anyway, if you’re going to make such gross distortions of history then let’s not quibble over minor details.
Comment: Pathetically ignorant fool, you forget that in 1945-48 the Jews of Europe were the doyens of the left, the victims de jour they could leech on to. But they had had enough of being victims, and decided not to become aid-dependent thralls of anyone. SO they became self-sufficient instead, and the left dropped them like a hot potato in favour of those who openly trumpeted their desire to finish the work of the Einsatztruppen. YOU support these people, as does all of the latte-left (actual Marxists do not, that is why they revile you). This is the proof that you are a fascist, of course.
Ah yes, the ‘Israel can do no wrong and if you disagree you are an anti-semite, even if you are a Jew yourself’ disclaimer.
Comment: far from it, wrongs are committed, and are routinely righted by the Israeli Supreme Court, for that is a land which follows the rule of law. Unlike every single Arab cesspit of a nation, which are all despotisms at best and fascist dictatorships at best. No wonder you despise democratic Israel and go all dewy-eyed and…. moist at the thought of Arab nations, their appeal to a fascist must be overwhelming.
i wonder then if you can honestly say that Israel and the US have had no role in encouraging, arming, training and the Fata coup in Palestine?
Comment: I certainly hope they have done so, but I have no proof of that. Noticed how the rocket attacks and suicide attack attempts by these murderous vermin have tapered off? Setting one pack of terrorists at another’s throat would be good policy. But the evidence points to something else, something far more squalid. Two rabid dogs, fighting over the free money provided by the UN and the west. They are fighting over the loot, little more.
MarkL
Canberra
- #108 RebeccaH
and wouldn’t dad be so proud of how clever he is (if only dad weren’t off banging the secretary).
How DID you know that the VRWC’s Practical Analyser of Computer Origins had enabled us to trace Huckster? How did you know that Huckster’s Dad is banging his secretary? How did you know that Dad’s secretary is another man?
And the German gay-perverted-fetish-schiesse porn company gave us a good price for the footage.
MarkL
Minionmeister to the VRWC
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