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The most terrifying thing about this Tim Flannery article in the SMH isn’t that it hammers on in standard enviro-apocalypse mode well past acceptable levels of tolerance, nor that it is first of several such pieces—“IDEOLOGY v TECHNOLOGY – A HERALD SERIES”—threatened by the futile broadsheet, but that it foreshadows an item by our old friend:

TOMORROW: Alison Broinowski on war

It’s not too late, SMH! You can still cut Inaccurate Alison before you go to print!

Posted by Tim B. on 07/18/2005 at 07:22 AM
    1. Tim Flannery- guest on Australian Story abc tv tonight.

      Posted by crash on 2005 07 18 at 08:30 AM • permalink


    1. He’s not so much threatening apocalypse as threatening eternal nagging.  Apocalypse seems like a viable option in fact, except it isn’t going to happen.  The nagging will continue forever.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2005 07 18 at 09:02 AM • permalink


    1. The article is garden variety Chicken Little excess, but that’s a cool drawing. Who’s it supposed to be? Looks like Warren Buffett clinging to his shorted stock position, which recently blew up in his face (next time, Warren, have a little faith, baby!).

      Posted by paco on 2005 07 18 at 09:06 AM • permalink


    1. Alison who says our adopted chinese students from Tienanmen square think we smell and hate us.Don’t mince words Ali.
      Meanwhile on Channel Nine News tonight in a piece about the Lakemba Islamic Bookshops at which one Bilal Kazal was supposedly working- one book said this.
      “To be called Australian is something to be ashamed of not to be proud of.It is to be without a history or a future.”
      Then a lady in traditional dress(she looked Anglo) said “The Christians are doin’ it,the Jews are doin’ it why not us?”
      Writing criticisms about Australians?
      She could well have said “the Journalists are doin’ it “,couldn’t she.

      Posted by crash on 2005 07 18 at 09:12 AM • permalink


    1. crash: Keysar Trad:

      “I don’t know whether the bookshop owners are aware of what’s inside these books but there should be a lot more vigilance…and they should be careful not to import these types of books,” he said.

      I’m sure Keysar Trad meant they should be alot more careful to import these types of books so openly.  I’ve just heard him crap on a bit too much that I don’t believe much of what he says.

      Posted by Melanie on 2005 07 18 at 11:01 AM • permalink


    1. A quick ninemsn search on the lakemba shop brought up this site …

      this forum reviews a january feature on the shop from the weekend australian. aah, words fail at the happy chorus of voices. perhaps the midway comment—“I only just realised the Australian is a N(J)ews Limited publication, Well that says it all”—is the most crystalised.

      Posted by insoma on 2005 07 18 at 01:16 PM • permalink


    1. Oh despair!!!  Oh woe!!!

      The world is falling apart under the catalclysmic affects of human habitation.

      Widdle fuwwy aminals are dying and widdle bitty plants are being choked to death on a gagillion tonnes of MAN-MADE CARBON DIOXIDE.

      Who can possibly save us from this horrible fate?

      Look everybody its Tim here to save the day.


      That should be worth a three year tenure and 500,000 dollars from the government…at least.

      Well done!

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2005 07 18 at 06:54 PM • permalink


    1. Flannery quotes the Japanese and the Norwegians on Krill statistics.
      Presumably since there’s 80% less krill for the whales to eat, then
      Japan and Norway should be allowed to kill four times as many whales.
      It would be inhumane to allow the whales to just starve without their
      much needed krill. For those of us unable to comprehend 80% less
      krill, Flannery provides a real world example:
      To gain an idea of how disastrous this is for krill-eating creatures,
      imagine your own budget being cut by 80 per cent.

      Tragically, the SMH have gone ahead with the Broinowski article.

      Posted by scooper on 2005 07 18 at 07:09 PM • permalink


    1. Flannery’s logic is truly astounding:
        “Australia owns 40 per cent of the world’s uranium, and many Australians would like to sell as much as possible. In a just world this would entail Australia receiving the spent fuel, yet most Australians adamantly oppose this.”  I suppose that because we export lots of food, we should take back the resultant sewage.

      Posted by amortiser on 2005 07 18 at 07:11 PM • permalink


    1. Occasionally I worry when someone with science cred, like Flannery, argues in favour of Kyoto, but this piece of his can be shredded on logic alone, with hardly any need to refer to the underlying data.  “Kyoto hardly makes a difference anyway, so why not sign it?” etc.

      And listening to Michelle Grattan on ABC this morning, saying that there’s no point banning Islamofascist literature in a Lakemba bookshop, because they can get it on the Internet anyway.  “She’s usually so sensible”, murumured my wife disapprovingly.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 18 at 07:20 PM • permalink


    1. I’m surprised Flannery didn’t squeeze in a reference to indigenous land rights, detained asylum seekers and Kim Beazley’s popularity stakes, since he managed to get every other irrelevant topic into the article.

      Posted by mr magoo on 2005 07 18 at 07:51 PM • permalink


    1. It’s worth remembering that Flannery is the same guy who got into hot water for daring to suggest, in his book The Future Eaters, that Aborigines weren’t the brilliant ecological managers they are popularly supposed to be.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 18 at 08:06 PM • permalink


    1. At least they’re consistent- the first two items feature idiots who know nothing about the subject they’re spouting about. Who’s next? Margo on english literacy? Any ABC peanut on impartiality? Kim Beasley on dieting? Phillip Adams on living a socialist lifestyle?

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 18 at 08:47 PM • permalink


    1. It seems that the Green Lefties are trying to resurrect the global warming/climate change nonsense.
      Todays Australian has this load of nonsense from Paul Gilding formerly of GreenPeace;,5744,15971496%5E7583,00.htmlStarts off with the same old technique of begging the question and goes downhill from there.

      Posted by Mick Gill on 2005 07 18 at 08:53 PM • permalink


    1. Sorry to keep on, but Michelle Grattan also fulfilled all expectations by warning against the banning of Islamofascist literature, as a “slippery slope”.  Yeah, next thing you know we’ll be banning Portnoy’s Complaint and Lady Chatterley’s Lover.  Those people who never made it off the 8.50 from Paddington might suggest that not prosecuting this crap is the beginning of a different “slippery slope”.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 18 at 09:15 PM • permalink


    1. Ms Broinowskis article has been published so it is too late to bargain. Next in the series is Robin Williams. That makes a Left-wing trifecta on ideology and technology (and ecology). What a marvellously unpredictable old rag the SMH is these days!

      Posted by Jack on 2005 07 18 at 09:24 PM • permalink


    1. There will still be at least another two
      days in the series Jack (#15). We’ll get
      the Quintella or whatever a five in a row is
      called in racing parlance.SMH advertisments say “Start a conversation”.
      Sample conversation: “Geez, the Sydney Morning
      Herald is a left wing rag these days, isn’t it?”

      Posted by scooper on 2005 07 18 at 09:28 PM • permalink


    1. Just read Alison’s piece and I have no idea what the hell she is trying to say. And I fear she has the same issue.

      Posted by unit on 2005 07 18 at 09:28 PM • permalink


    1. Flannery claims that Australians are the worst CO2 polluters per capita on the planet.

      A quick search revealed the nonsense of this statement. Some of the countries with higher per capita CO2 emissions are UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, USA and Singapore.

      It’s also interesting to note what Singapore is required to do under the terms of the Kyoto Protocol: a big fat nothing. It was not on the scheduled of industrialised countries required to reign in their emissions, despite having a higher GDP per capita than countries like NZ.

      No doubt Flannery subscribes to the all too prevalent view that it’s completely OK for a scientist to tell porkies if the cause is right and proper.

      Posted by wombatas on 2005 07 18 at 09:44 PM • permalink


    1. Ms Broinowskis article has been published so it is too late to bargain. Next in the series is Robin Williams.
      Great!  I thought he was terrific in Mork and Mindy, and his stand-up stuff is just scorchin’, though he went a bit off with all the Patch Adams crap, though now he’s found a new niche as a creep in Insomnia and One-hour photo and..oh…that Robin Williams?…sorry..

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 18 at 10:12 PM • permalink


    1. This is as far as I got before adopting the standard “why am I so astounded, this after all is Fairfax” response.
      This tale’s moral message is obvious, and so is its 1970s subtext about the dangers of relying on military technology to assure mutual destruction and hence security. How things have changed in our lifetime.
      This idiot, promoted as an expert, doesn’t realise her “moral message” sunk like a brick with the Soviet’s collapse and the end of the Cold War. We have a new global conflict threat but she can’t get her feeble wits around how the last one was overcome.

      Posted by slatts on 2005 07 18 at 10:49 PM • permalink


    1. sorry, the above is from Broinowskis piece

      Posted by slatts on 2005 07 18 at 10:51 PM • permalink


    1. We’re doing our bit for the trees- WTF do these wonks think plants take in through photosynthesis, helium? If we weren’t pumping out all that wonderful CO2, your gladiolas would be gasping and every eucalypt would be emphasymic. Just to make sure all the pretty plants can survive, I’m going to kick up my energy consumption tenfold, and let go with some real whiffy ones in case they’re running low on methane.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 18 at 10:52 PM • permalink


    1. Batty Brionowski sure has her palsied finger on the pulse-Haltingly, the European Union is trying to evolve as a community that can sink its civilisational differences (even if they still hate each others’ cuisine). Perhaps the evolved Europeans will eventually stop exporting arms too.

      The EU is on the verge of collapse, and is about as effective militarily as Greenpeace; at a pinch, I’d say Syria could belt NATO unless it was supported by a massive US intervention.

      Certainly they export a lot of weapons, but most of the real shitholes in the world seem to be running around with Soviet ordnance- FN and H&K is a bit too pricey for fundie funsters and third world warriors.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 18 at 11:00 PM • permalink


    1. wombatas said:

      No doubt Flannery subscribes to the all too prevalent view that it’s completely OK for a scientist to tell porkies if the cause is right and proper.

      While Flannery had some scientific training in the dim and distant past, he has spent most of his time in recent years as an administrater rather than a doer.  The compromises necessary in climbing the administrativce greasy pole means that he long ago abandoned objectivity for polemics.

      Posted by entropy on 2005 07 18 at 11:21 PM • permalink


    1. Kyoto is dead, nothing to see here, move on everyone.

      Posted by Astonished on 2005 07 19 at 04:12 AM • permalink


    1. Literature from the Auburn House of Hate:

      Extracts from some of the ‘books’ found by the Daily Telegraph.

      * The view on PM Howard:
      – ‘his name should go down to the rubbish tip of history’.
      (NB: a good reason to keep voting for him).

      * The view on Australia:
      – ‘they discovered they came to the land of discrimination, victimisation, the land of drugs, prostitution and gambling’
      (NB: Muslims are the leaders in drugdealing in Sydney. Much of Sydney prostitution is also controlled by Muslim Lebenese).

      * Call to arms:
      – ‘Australia, by having its own nuclear devises (sic) only makes itself a target for attacks ..the world is to face in the very near future, the force of Islam’.
      (NB – from someone who cant tell ‘device’ from ‘devise’).

      * Attack on law and order:
      ‘A country with a police force that instead of providing protection, the police themselves pick up young girls from the streets around the city area and rape them’
      (NB: Sorry Mohammed, the rapists were your very own young savages, not the Australian cops).

      * Attack on personal freedoms:
      ‘Homosexuality is another disease, a social disorder manufactured and spread by the west. It is a crime that must be dealth with’
      (NB: He forgot to mention the widespread homosexuality in the Muslim world).

      The reaction from the people supposed to be protecting us:

      “NSW’s chief law officer has said he is powerless to take action against people who buy and sell books preaching dangerous fundamentalism until an act of violence has been committed…………..

      However, NSW Police Commissioner Ken Moroney sought to reassure people that the police were on top of the issue and that the more extreme stores had been under surveillance by anti-terror teams.

      And last night he went further, pledging to go to Police Minister Carl Scully to demand a change in the law if the Department of Public prosecutions failed to take action against those selling dangerous propoganda.”

      Well see what happens. There are plenty of laws in Australia against racial and religious vilification – and if selling this filth isnt ‘encouraging violence’, what is? Or do those laws only apply to Australians? Or to Christian pastors in Victoria who dare to laugh at Islam?

      The items on sale included:

      *The Ideological Attack (claims a ‘demonic global plan’ and ‘barbaric onslaught’ against Muslims)

      * Defence of the Muslim Lands (advocates suicide bombings and personally endorsed by bin laden)

      * Islam and the Modern Man (says that westernisation compares to ‘cancerous malignant growth which destroys healthy tissue …’)

      * Jihad or Terrorism (videotape featuring the burning World Trades Centre on the cover)

      Moderate Muslims were appalled—-blah blah blah. Oh, and Hassan thinks that coming to Australia is a ‘life sentence’ – you’ve gotta laugh. This loser has never had it so good. So when is he leaving?

      Posted by dee on 2005 07 19 at 04:23 AM • permalink


    1. Yet to hear any media venture into the relative merits of these hateful books and the comparatively tame speeches of the Victorian Preachers Case. Post-modernism stuck for comment?
      According to numerous reports in the USA similarly dubious books also offered widely there by the mosques and their bookshops. Much denial there too.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 19 at 07:42 AM • permalink


    1. – ‘they discovered they came to the land of discrimination, victimisation, the land of drugs, prostitution and gambling’

      So fuck off back to the land of the sandy scrotum, you hate-filled, reactionary, primitive, misanthropic, atavistic ovine corn-holers.

      About 12 flights a day out of SKSA will get you somewhere free of infidels, punters, pillheads, prossies and personal freedom.

      What’s keeping you? Don’t let the tent flap slap the back of your bernous on the way out.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 19 at 08:32 AM • permalink


    1. Habib — I don’t know about Syria, but the Jordanians, probably, and the Israelis could be at the Channel in a week…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 19 at 10:05 PM • permalink


    1. Alison Brownoutski is suffering from an extreme case of head up backside if she thinks that the world is full of naughty children who would, if only they would obey super-nanny Alison, get along just fine – as long as they work at their relationships.
      But she seems to be saying that ideology will defeat the Tecno-fascist warmongers because they have more staying power.
      Alison, you deserve to be around when the ideologues take over.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 20 at 06:35 AM • permalink


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