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In accordance with Labor tradition:

The Rudd Government is rejecting asylum seeker applications at a higher rate than the Howard government, according to an analysis of new figures.

An Asylum Seeker Research Centre report says the immigration department has knocked back 41 of the 42 cases it has had referred to it since Labor took power after the November 2007 election, a rejection rate of 97.6 per cent.

Time for Phillip Adams to start another reader campaign.

(Via Kae)

Posted by Tim B. on 05/09/2008 at 02:55 AM
    1. I wonder what the figures were like before.  A friend of mine used to live in Kensington (refugee central here in Melbourne – Little Mogadishu on the Yarra) and mixed socially with members of the refugee bureaucracy.  She met one of the appeal tribunal members, who gleefully and proudly confided that she had never approved a single appeal case that had come before her.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2008 05 09 at 03:15 AM • permalink


    1. 10000 letters? that lazy fat Bastard would need 40 years to open and read half that amount.  The lying BLUDGER.

      Posted by Howzat on 2008 05 09 at 03:15 AM • permalink


    1. 10000 letters?

      The poor kiddies must have confused you with Santa Claus, you fat bearded fuckwit.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 05 09 at 03:19 AM • permalink


    1. The RRT is a largely misunderstood creature. They exist to see if the department of immigration followed its own proceedures and considered all the info put before it.
      Its an opportunity to have the administrative side of the case reviewed. The inital finding is the most important one, the RRT the automatic follow on of every failed claim (making reccomendations).
      Then come the endless appeals to courts.

      I remember having refugee applicants asking me if a Labor government was elected would they change the policy back 2 elections ago. I replied as honestly as I could “not unless the greens hold the balance of power”.

      Nice to be proven right about something so quickly.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 05 09 at 03:57 AM • permalink


    1. #3, Phatty is a man of letters alright. In his case they spell C..t

      Posted by Nic on 2008 05 09 at 04:27 AM • permalink


    1. Connecticut? Well, they can have him if they want him.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2008 05 09 at 04:57 AM • permalink


    1. Racism is a Labor tradition that goes back to the very beginning of the party. Labor and the union movement created, supported perpetuated and defended the White Australia policy until Gough Whitlam became Labor leader in 1967 and Bob Hawke became ACTU president in 1969.

      The Libs under Menzies watered down the policy several times and modern Asian immigration, albeit on a small scale, started back in 1964.

      Posted by Contrail on 2008 05 09 at 06:22 AM • permalink


    1. From the link:

      “I think the minister is still paying too much attention to the immigration department rather than trying to implement the cultural change that was promised,” he said.

      Mr Karapanagiotidis said while it was too early to form a complete picture of Senator Evans’ approach, it was looking as if the change in government had not brought change for asylum seekers.

      Interesting, they are advocating a Minister acts independently to their department’s advice.

      Jack Smit from refugee advocacy group Project SafeCom called the figures “disturbing”.

      The ASRC claims to be the largest provider of aid, advocacy and health services for asylum seekers in Australia.

      Of course they’d find it disturbing. No refugees means no money for Mr. Smit and his ‘services’.

      Posted by Nic on 2008 05 09 at 06:29 AM • permalink


    1. Let’s hear it for Inertia and Sloth!

      Posted by Brett_McS on 2008 05 09 at 06:34 AM • permalink


    1. #7 And what was it that Gough said about Vietnamese refugees?

      Ummmm…Err….Damn – is that Elvis over there?

      Posted by Toiling Mass on 2008 05 09 at 06:53 AM • permalink


    1. Let us not forget Whitlam’s shabby treatment of the Vietnamese refugees. And they had probably the greatest claim for refugee status of the groups that have tried to get here.

      Posted by Penguin on 2008 05 09 at 06:54 AM • permalink


    1. Quang Luu: Whitlam’s policy on Vietnamese refugees didn’t last
      January 04, 2006 The link to is now dead.
      and only working link is non-English version. linky
      Below an excerpt from article.

      “After Whitlam’s dismissal in November, we were allowed to stay as permanent residents by the Fraser government. The first minister for immigration and ethnic affairs, Michael MacKellar, wrote to Tran and Dan and some others who had been forced to sign the undertaking to advise that it was null and void.
      The new Coalition government formulated a resettlement policy for Vietnamese and other Indochinese refugees. The high intake of Vietnamese between 1977 and 1983 tested Australians’ tolerance to the limit, given that Australia as a multicultural nation was still in its infancy.
      It was difficult then to know whether the resettlement would be successful, but the political and civic leadership prevailed.
      After 1983, to its credit, the Hawke government abandoned Whitlam’s position and largely followed the Fraser-MacKellar-Ian Macphee policy on Indochinese refugees. (Macphee succeeded MacKellar in 1979 as minister for immigration and ethnic affairs. In 1982 he introduced the orderly departure program.)
      From a small base of 2427 people according to the 1976 census, the 200,000 Vietnamese Australians today represent 1 per cent of the population and are a successful part of our multicultural society.
      Quang Luu, a life member of the Refugee Council of Australia, was the first national president of the Vietnamese community in Australia (1977-82). “

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 05 09 at 06:58 AM • permalink


    1. #5,6
      Camelot? Commentariat, cabriolet, crust, cruet, crumpet, … oh, my!

      Posted by blogstrop on 2008 05 09 at 07:16 AM • permalink


    1. ASRC community campaign co-ordinator Pamela Curr conceded some of the 42 did not have compelling cases, but said others certainly did.

      Ah.  What she really means is that none of them had a case that would stand up to any scrutiny, and they were simply hoping that a soft headed Labor minister would wave them through with a free pass.

      Sorry to disappoint you love, but although most of Rudd’s mob are a bunch of twats, some still recognise things like the national interest and due process and making decisions based on evidence.  A well worn sob story might cut melt the hearts of all you tilty heads, but it cuts no ice with some of the hard heads on the left.

      I can’t imagine my grandfather, who was a Labor man, and blue collar hard core unionist through and through, having any truck with this skip full of pustulating compassion junkies.

      Posted by mr creosote on 2008 05 09 at 07:49 AM • permalink



    1. Bolt is hammering Kevni’s aversion to exposing himself to reporters’ questions when out and about, and his minders’ efforts to have no filming of his radio “appearances”.
      Glass jaw? Increasingly see-through as a whole person. Thanks, Australian Media, for the pup-selling extravaganza you laughably called an election campaign. The “polls” were and are still out of alignment with the actual voting records. They didn’t win by 75 to 10.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2008 05 09 at 08:42 AM • permalink


    1. He is the Prime Minister of No Appearance – look for him in the SMH/Age.

      Posted by Toiling Mass on 2008 05 09 at 09:09 AM • permalink


    1. He’s not the only one missing in action.  Anyone heard from Gillard lately?  She’s gone to ground – I take it her minders worked out that only very few people can actually put up with listening to her for more than 4 seconds.

      And where is Lurch?  Even Tanner, Smith and Swan have developed lower profiles than wog chariot tyres.

      The faceless generals of the Burmese Junta are getting more face time than our packet of finger puppets.

      Posted by mr creosote on 2008 05 09 at 09:35 AM • permalink


    1. #15, Don Bowman escaped Milton’s fate, Doug Carley too, each were ALP members at Lake Macquarie. Something strange (and evil) was happening there in the 80s-90s.

      On the refugee matter, an acquaintance who frequents places of questionable sex delivery told me teenaged African girls from refugee families are out doing street sex in large numbers in a certain part of Newcastle, apparently overseen by their fathers, mothers and brothers. Woolworths at Mayfield is apparently the pickup spot. All on family benefitss. Information I didn’t need.

      Posted by mareeS on 2008 05 09 at 09:50 AM • permalink


    1. Be grateful you’re surrounded by ocean and don’t have thousands of miles of open border that anybody can just stroll across.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 05 09 at 10:29 AM • permalink


    1. #11
      I agree that the Vietnamese who came here in boats were legitimate refugees.

      Posted by kae on 2008 05 09 at 10:47 AM • permalink


    1. They should try Canada.

      Friday » May 9 » 2008

      Sudanese rapist returned to remand centre

      Elise Stolte

      Monday, May 05, 2008

      EDMONTON – A Sudanese rapist and former refugee was returned to the remand centre for a sixth month of detention today while the Canadian Border Services Agency tries to find a way to deport him.

      A member of the Immigration and Refugee Board ordered Samuel Martin Luin back into custody but warned such 30-day extensions cannot continue indefinitely.

      “There may come a point and time in the future when it will be apparent that removal cannot be realistically achieved,” said Paul Kyba, who presided over the hearing today. “Then detention cannot be continued either.”

      In 2005, Luin sexually assaulted a 19-year-old woman on her way home from work. He was convicted and served 16 months in prison.

      He was ordered deported last July, but the Canadian Border Services Agency cannot deport him without travel documents, and can’t get travel documents with identification linking Luin to Sudan.

      Luin came to Canada without any papers in 2002 from an Ethiopian refugee camp.

      Border services have been trying to prove Luin belongs in Sudan since July 2007, with their international bureaus doing checks overseas. In March 2008, Luin told them his name is actually Absahalum Duud Hajer, forcing them to investigate two names.

      Last month, he told them he knows several people in Edmonton who could verify who he was, but didn’t have names or contact information. “He stated that if we took him for a drive around Edmonton, he might be able to locate them,” said Kristine Rondeau, who represented the agency.

      Lawyer Simon Yu said Luin should not be considered a danger to the public because he has no reported offences for the last 16 months in custody. That shows signs of rehabilitation, he said.

      Authorities can lower the risk that Luin would flee by giving him strict reporting conditions and a curfew, Yu said. “The lengthy detention in this case really is a concern, sir.”

      Kyba ruled that Luin does present a danger to the public and is unlikely to show up for deportation if released.

      “I’m not convinced of your own willingness to co-operate with the minister,” he said. “You have to take some of the responsibility for the delay in the minister’s investigation.”

      © Edmonton Journal 2008

      Posted by Mystery Meat on 2008 05 09 at 11:19 AM • permalink


    1. Wow!  Canada really has this refugee stuff down.  Australia has much to learn.

      Admitted killer walks free
      Refugee board releases assassin onto Metro Vancouver streets
      Kim Bolan, Vancouver Sun
      Published: Tuesday, April 29, 2008
      VANCOUVER – A Salvadoran refugee claimant who admitted to killing at least four rival gangsters in gunfights and grenade attacks is not dangerous enough to be locked up pending his deportation, an Immigration and Refugee Board member ruled Tuesday.
      In fact, adjudicator Daphne Shaw Dyck said she did not believe Jose Franciso Cardoza Quinteros killed several times for the notorious Mara Salvatrucha gang, despite his sensational admissions to the Canada Border Services Agency last September.
      Shaw Dyck ordered Cardoza Quinteros released for the second time in seven months on a $1,000 bond with the condition that he must report once a month and not drink alcohol while residing with relatives in Surrey.

      Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts said she was “absolutely shocked” that Shaw Dyck would permit the refugee claimant to be freed when he has already been deemed ineligible to remain in Canada because of his admitted criminality.

      “Maybe if she wants him released, he can go and live at her house,” Watts told The Vancouver Sun on Tuesday. “It absolutely astounds me that he can even set foot on Canadian soil, let alone be let loose into the community for the second time.”

      The Sun revealed earlier this month that Cardoza Quinteros told Canadian officials that he had gunned down rivals, thrown grenades into crowds and been present at the beheading of a woman by a member of his gang, known as MS-13.

      But he was still ordered freed by the IRB last Sept. 14, forcing the federal immigration department to seek a judicial review to argue he was too dangerous. Cardoza Quinteros was arrested last week after the Federal Court of Canada ordered a new detention hearing. That took place April 23 before Shaw Dyck.

      In her ruling, Shaw Dyck said the 30-year-old, covered with gang tattoos, was exaggerating to the CBSA in order to make a more compelling refugee case. She noted that he retracted his admissions nine days after making them last September in a lengthy border interview.

      “Although his retraction is not accepted insofar as his membership in the gang is concerned, I have serious doubts that he killed people as stated in the portions of the interview quoted by minister’s counsel,” Shaw Dyck said.

      “I am not in agreement that Mr. Cardoza is such a great risk to the safety of the Canadian public that the only solution is continued detention until all the legal procedures available to him in Canada are completed.”
      She said that while “border services officers did not coerce Mr. Cardoza to admit his membership in Mara Salvatrucha, I believe that Mr. Cardoza had no understanding that being a member of Mara Salvatrucha would make him ineligible to make a refugee claim.”
      Another IRB adjudicator ruled Feb. 22 that Cardoza Quinteros was not a credible witness at his eligibility hearing and should not be allowed to continue with his refugee claim because of admitted involvement in a criminal gang.

      Among other admissions by Cardoza Quinteros are that he had maimed and disfigured rival gang members between 15 and 20 times over a five-year period. He admitted to carrying a gun, robbing non-gang members for MS-13 coffers and to buying weapons in Los Angeles for his organization, the most violent drug gang in Central America.

      He said he was a witness to at least 100 gang murders and had been arrested 50 or 60 times.
      Watts was stunned when she first read in The Sun that an admitted killer was free in her city. She said the fact he is being re-released is “like a bad Monty Python movie.”
      “What about the obligation to advise the community of where he is living?” she said. “There is a community and a neighbourhood that he is residing in. There is no communication with the city and that just really speaks to a fundamental flaw in the process.”

      But Shaw Dyck said she was convinced by arguments of the Salvadoran’s lawyer, Shepherd Moss, that his client had found God and was attending two churches several times a week.

      “The question is whether this risk can be managed in the community with suitable terms and conditions. In the seven months that Mr. Cardoza has been at liberty, the risk has been managed,” she said. “Although Mr. Cardoza missed two reporting dates, there must have been a satisfactory explanation as Mr. Cardoza was not arrested for non-compliance. Mr. Cardoza has complied with all other terms and conditions, including keeping the peace and being of good behaviour. By and large, he has honoured his commitments.”

      Posted by Mystery Meat on 2008 05 09 at 11:25 AM • permalink


    1. I wonder if Australia will soon see a flood (if you’ll pardon the term) of Burmese refugees now that the Junta is doing their utmost to thwart typhoon relief efforts.


      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 05 09 at 11:45 AM • permalink


    1. Came across the following poem by Thomas Love Peacock and thought it admirably captured Rudd (particularly in the context of his 2020 summit):

      After careful meditation,
      And profound deliberation,
      On the various pretty projects which have just been shown,
      Not a scheme in agitation,
      For the world’s amelioration,
      Has a grain of common sense in it, except my own.

      Posted by paco on 2008 05 09 at 02:16 PM • permalink


    1. While we are on about refugees, here’s the proof.

      Posted by burrah on 2008 05 09 at 02:32 PM • permalink


    1. #25 Paco – a poem good and true and also without any doubt applicable to his Emissions Trading Scheme the details of which soon will have to be revealed.

      Posted by Wand on 2008 05 09 at 07:26 PM • permalink


    1. O/T
      I was surfing the net last night. I didn’t get to bed until after 3am.

      Thismorning the doorbell rings.
      Then someone starts banging on the front screen door.

      I stumble to the front door, wearing a T-shirt, wondering who the hell it is (there’s reasons why you live 7ks out of town). There he is. A bloke in an Akubra.

      And his mate around the corner.

      He launches into his spiel.

      Next time I won’t be polite.

      “Have you heard of the United Arab Emirates? Look them up on the net. If you want to do some good in the world, go over there an knock on doors for theological discussions.”

      After compacting motor scooters.
      And their riders.
      Can we send the proselytisers somewhere they’ll be appreciated?

      Posted by kae on 2008 05 09 at 08:36 PM • permalink


    1. Of course Australia is a racist society.  How else could you explain all these car crash, drowning, and cancer deaths?

      At least 40 foreign students have died in Australia since last June, when the Department of Education, Employment and Workplace Relations began collating figures.

      The Federation of Indian Students of Australia says 13 took their own lives after struggling with the cultural and financial pressures.

      Other deaths have included at least five from car crashes, three drownings, two from cancer, and several fires.

      Three Indian students died in a Footscray rooming house fire in January.

      Two Pakistani students, Omer Habib, 22, and Wasim Akram, 19, were washed off rocks at Phillip Island.

      Two Indian students, Pradeep Singh, 19, and Avneet Kullar, 22, drowned near Anglesea in December.

      US student Matthew Atwood, 20, died in Bendigo after crashing through a glass door at his dormitory, and a 19-year-old Fijian student was murdered at Lynbrook.

      Posted by monaro on 2008 05 09 at 08:44 PM • permalink


    1. That above text came from this link.

      Posted by monaro on 2008 05 09 at 08:47 PM • permalink


    1. And I got breathalysed on the way home, at Moorooka.

      I passed.


      Posted by kae on 2008 05 09 at 08:47 PM • permalink


    1. MysMeat – here in Australia, we prefer to import killers with the proper qualifications.
      This story is three years old, so a quick update. The good doctor bolted the country and was discovered in Portland Oregon, from where our authorities are still fighting to extradite him.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2008 05 09 at 08:48 PM • permalink


    1. Phatty should be seeking a mental asylum, following his phantom interviews …

      Posted by egg_ on 2008 05 09 at 11:44 PM • permalink


    1. Very aptpoem, Paco

      The holograph Aussie PM fits it like a glove

      Posted by Jazza on 2008 05 10 at 02:42 AM • permalink


    1. Jazza,

      By the holographic Aussie PM, are you referring to the Projecting Anthropo-Chromatic Oscillator? I have a few issues.

      1) It lacks definition – like one of those old slide projectors when blurred and out of focus. That is how the PM looks all the time.

      2) What is this Chromatic bit – there is no colour at all, just bland smudges of grey.

      3) It has the wrong Political And Cultural Orientation chip – it seems to be the Chinese version.

      4) We expected it would be a little more animated, all it does is sit there grinning, in power saving mode, until it is placed near celebrities so that its Proximal Artiste Charisma Organ is activated. THAT was an amusing sight, at first, but after the 2020 Gabfest the novelty is beginning to wear off.

      Do you think there is any chance that PACO might please, please, PLEASE take it back?

      Posted by Toiling Mass on 2008 05 10 at 06:46 AM • permalink


    1. #35
      Toiling Mass
      You didn’t read the PACO Industries fine print, here is is in bold:

      Caveat Emptor

      It’s there, you just can’t see it very well, it’s small and hidden in the scroll work on the crest.

      Posted by kae on 2008 05 10 at 06:53 AM • permalink


    1. #36 Kae

      Bugger. And the damn thing is still under warranty for the next 2yrs 6mths.

      Posted by Toiling Mass on 2008 05 10 at 08:14 AM • permalink


    1. #37 Toiling.
      Oh, and if you look very carefully on the base plate of any, er, contraption, for want of an all-encompassing descriptor of the hard wares of PACO Ind., you’ll see the crest and motto embossed – so you really can’t say you didn’t see it, ignorance is no defence.

      Posted by kae on 2008 05 10 at 08:22 AM • permalink


    1. That’s what the embossing’s called.

      The PACO Hallmark.

      Posted by kae on 2008 05 10 at 08:23 AM • permalink


    1. #35 TM – We stand by our pledge: “Satisfaction guaranteed or half of your money back.”

      Posted by paco on 2008 05 10 at 03:53 PM • permalink