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If you’re not part of the culling, you’re part of the problem:
According to John Burton, of the World Land Trust, politicians and environmentalists alike are not confronting the real reasons for climate change … “While the use of fossil fuels and the release of CO2 is clearly driving climate change, reducing our individual consumption on its own will not make a shred of difference to the future of the planet.”
He went on to explain, “It is only when we confront the real issue that is driving the whole energy issue that we can hope to prevent the total chaos that is likely to result over the next few decades.”
What might that “real issue” be, John?
“Far too many people exist on this planet.”
(Via Randy V.)
- Funny how the speaker of lines like:
“Far too many people exist on this planet”
aren’t capable of finding and executing (pun intended) the obvious solution.
They always seem to mean that there are far too many homo sapiens tuus interfering with the enjoyment of the few homo sapiens meus.
So here’s my solution. Everyone who believes there are too many people here for poor Gaia should invite all of their
co-religionistslike-minded friends over, brew a special batch of Jonestown Kool-Aid, and drink up.
- High methane producing middle aged white males have got to go first. From then on it’s the Zimbabwe effect, before you know it we’ll all be living in 16th century bliss.Posted by alien kiwi on 2007 03 21 at 10:55 AM • permalink
- OOOOOOOH!!!! Man, I am so slow. All this time the lefties have been moaning about the death rates in Iraq, and I was sitting there thinking These losers are crazy, we’re seeing the lowest casualty rates of ANY war we’ve ever been in. (Granada and Panama were not wars, BTW)
NOW I get it. They’re bitching BEECAUSE we’re seeing the lowest casualty rates of any war we’ve ever been in.
Well, happy to disappoint you.
- I wonder if John’s volunteering to become part of the
finalsolution?Posted by andycanuck on 2007 03 21 at 11:03 AM • permalink
- I suppose Mr. Burton hasn’t read this book as yet. Those falling birthrates in some parts of the planet ought to cheer him right up, the smarmy bastard.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 03 21 at 11:05 AM • permalink
“Far too many people exist on this planet.”
Apparently, the prophesies of Paul Ehrlich were wrong, exactly, just a little off on the timing… hmmm, I see. Yes, of course.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 03 21 at 11:16 AM • permalink
Is it just me, or is everyone else getting this eerie feeling that lots of people want us all dead?
No, it’s not just you.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 03 21 at 11:23 AM • permalink
- The “exploding human population bomb”…yawn. That’s so 1970’s, man.Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 03 21 at 11:25 AM • permalink
- Somewhere, possibly at the University of Texas, there are environmentalists working on creating a disease to kill 90 percent of mankind.Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2007 03 21 at 11:29 AM • permalink
- What Leftys dream of, no matter what the issue is:
“…when human populations are brought under control.”—Burton
What rightys dream of:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”—Jefferson
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 03 21 at 11:37 AM • permalink
- ‘The “exploding human population bomb”…yawn. That’s so 1970’s, man.’
Much older…
‘In An Essay on the Principle of Population, first published in 1798, Malthus made the famous prediction that population would outrun food supply, leading to a decrease in food per person. (Case & Fair, 1999: 790). He even went so far as to specifically predict that this must occur by the middle of the 19th century, a prediction which failed…’
Same old, same old.
That’s from the wiki entry on Malthus, btw. I’m too lazy to link it.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 03 21 at 11:41 AM • permalink
- My letter top the wanker:
Sir,
Concerning your observation that there are too many people on the planet:
As the European population is declining, and therefore _doing_somehting_about_it_ I wonder how you are going to persuade Muslims, Arabs, Indians and Chinese and Africans that they must do their bit too, and die.
Wimpy CanadianSecret IdentityPosted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 03 21 at 12:39 PM • permalink
- #16 Bruce:
News like that almost makes me glad I dropped out of UT. Additionally, any plan that has as a consequence the depopulation of the South Mall at UT of 90% of the co-eds HAS to be a crime against humanity, or at least man-kind.
One of the primary fallacies of eugenic/pro-culling/population-reductionist arguments is the mistaken assumption that the proponent should be exempt. I call it the “Mineshaft Fallacy”. Like the men in the War Room in Dr. Strangelove, all of these yahoos seem to think it’s them going into the mineshaft with an excess of attractive young women while the rest of mankind dies off. There’s no data to support that.
- #16, Bruce,
I clicked on your link and I literally stopped eating my lunch in “mid chew” in response to the utter depravity of what I was reading. What was the title of the talk? “Final Solution to the Human question?” Are you sure that the post is not a hoax? If it is not, I daydream that one day a student will take video of such a talk, surreptitiously or not, and post it. And in response TV camera crews will descend upon the speaker demanding “clarification” and then descend upon the moral cretins who applauded the speaker at this Eco-Wannsee Conference and also demand, on camera, their reasons for their enthusiasm. No doubt, if this were to actually happen, the speaker would threaten lawsuits over his “invasion of privacy” and the audience would scatter like cockroaches. The Left, like the vampire, cannot exist in the light of day.
Posted by Mark Razak on 2007 03 21 at 01:07 PM • permalink
- I have read that if you take the US population, group them into units of four folks each, and give each group a house on an acre of land, we wouldn’t even fill up half of Texas. And we’re 15 times more densely populated than Oz. Too many people? No. Too many blithering idiots? Always have been; always will be.
“Far too many people exist on this planet.”
Well hey nancy boy, maybe you should do something about it. Come to my house and try to implement your Final Solution. Bring some friends with you.
(removes tarpulin from Magnum gun)
Posted by wronwright on 2007 03 21 at 01:33 PM • permalink
- Oddly, none of the neo-Malthusians have taken the logically moral course their philosophy would seem to demand, and removed their extraneous presence from the Earth that suffers under the weight of their excess.
Just as with tax hikes (whose proponents never voluntarily pay extra), it’s a price they want everyone else to pay.
- The environuts are so nuts now, that they even want to kill polar bears!
http://tinyurl.com/2ajtgoPosted by andycanuck on 2007 03 21 at 02:50 PM • permalink
- #31 – As you say, TallDave.
Still, as Algore has proven, leading by example is rarely an environut’s strong suit.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 03 21 at 03:06 PM • permalink
- And this is not a ‘third world problem’ every single Briton consumes vastly more than an impoverished peasant farmer in Central Africa.
Could this be that “every single Briton” has more to consume? (one can clearly see the MENSA category thinking of John Burton)
The unpalatable fact is that in addition to wrecking the British countryside, Britons are also responsible for depleting the resources of many other parts of the world.
Yeah, stop fucking around, Brits. One has to wonder why George Bush wasn’t blamed.
In the past the problem has been resolved by war, famine and disease. All three loom ominously close, and we are, to use the famous metaphor, still re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, with the iceberg in full view.
This sounds very near the Ebola nutty Texan dudes view. Save the world, kill the people…wow, neat. Jesus H.
- #22, MarkD:
Liberals are consistent. We’ve got a problem. I’ve got a solution. You’re going to pay.
If you stop and think on it for a bit, you’re likely to discover that conservatives are also consistent in a self destructive manner…
We sit and watch a gathering threat, one that is overtly opposed to our very existence, and laugh at it, complain about it, or simply ignore it until it has grown to such dimensions that destroying or defeating it comes with a hugely exaggerated price tag.
Eco-Wannsee Conference
That’s good. I may just have to use that one, if that is alright.
Posted by Major John on 2007 03 21 at 03:22 PM • permalink
- The proffessor is a bit behind the times, hollywood allready did it years ago. Remember this?
16. Bruce Rheinstein
Thanks a lot for that link.Perhaps the proffessor would like to visit this link. alt . suicide . methods Its an actual Google group, amazing what google brings up on a search.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 21 at 06:10 PM • permalink
- Hey, John Burton. This should help knock down a few, eh?
Taliban allies fighting “foreign militants”? See the BBC report
Austin Bay
via
InstapunditWe should stir the pot, IF we aren’t already that is.
- Killing the world has never been so much fun!
I just killed 500!
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 21 at 06:42 PM • permalink
- Heres that pesky “consensus” word being used again
“The modern scientific community long ago reached a consensus that growing numbers of people, together with rising levels of consumption, especially among the world’s rich, are threatening the natural underpinnings of human life.”
Does this sound familiar?
“proposing new taxes for discouraging rather than subsidizing childbearing, moderating globalization and “free trade,” regulating corporations and putting environmental issues in the forefront of education and policy at all levels.”
the link.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 21 at 06:51 PM • permalink
- The solution is to be person-neutral through the use of person offsets. For each kid that you have, just make sure you kill someone else.Posted by Brian O’Connell on 2007 03 21 at 07:53 PM • permalink
- #33: Apparently, the prophesies of Paul Ehrlich were[n’t] wrong, exactly, just a little off on the timing… hmmm, I see. Yes, of course.
As others have pointed out in the past, Paul Ehrlich has correctly predicted ten out of the last one catastrophe(s).
Posted by Bruce Lagasse on 2007 03 21 at 07:55 PM • permalink
I have read that if you take the US population, group them into units of four folks each, and give each group a house on an acre of land, we wouldn’t even fill up half of Texas.
Well, let’s see. 300 million people equals 75 million “families”. There are 640 acres to a square mile, so 75 million acres about 117,000 square miles. Texas is about 260,000 square miles.
So, yes, that’s exactly correct. (Of course, leaving out roads, public land, and all that other stuff.)
- Mr.Burton will be encouraged by the knowledge that the necessary technology exists.Any liberal minded governments wishing to toe the Burton line only have to dust off the plans which enabled the most foreward thinking Socialist government of the 20th.Century to achieve so much in that regard in a such short time and under difficult conditions.Of course in this enlightened age we can expect dedicated environmentalists to insist that the ovens used to dispose of the Zyclon-B treated residue be fired by natural gas and not the dreaded coal gas used by those brave pioneering Socialists.
- But surely if we all just reverted to the Stone Age there wouldn’t be a problem. Plus, no need for fancy airborne Ebola viruses and so forth, since without evil carbon-spewing technology, infant and childhood mortality will once again soar – nipping the problem in the bub, you might say.
The motto, then: “We can kill two bubs with one Stone.”
I am, in truth, slightly suspicious of that UT story. Not that some of these whackos wouldn’t think of releasing population-decimating germs, but that an audience would react so positively. Unless he minced his words to the point most listeners could comfortably ignore it. Even that Prof. Reid nutter on the ABC couple of months back was “only” talking of sterilizing populations, and if memory serves that relatively “humane” approach was still received with some disquiet by the interviewer.
I’m not going to believe a hundred people would stand up and applaud suggestions I last heard advanced by Ernst Stavros Blofeld. I’m just not.
- Turns out the leftist political ideology isn’t about defending the little guy, the poor, the marginalized, the “losers of life’s lottery”, its about offing him en masse. No wonder they’re nostalgic for the Soviet project. They considered it a success.Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 03 21 at 09:04 PM • permalink
- #54 But he had a cute, white kitty-cat with him onstage, Dminor.
P.S. Note to self: do not invite John Burton or Brian O’Connell to any parties.
Posted by andycanuck on 2007 03 21 at 09:18 PM • permalink
- OTish: The Goracle apparently decided today that he is above Congressional hearing rules. I’m not particularly surprised, as His High Coldiness is just plain better than the common folk, and therefore can do whatever he wants.
Rules? Al don’ need no steenkin’ rules!
Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 03 21 at 09:52 PM • permalink
- ManBearPig also refused to pledge to reduce his energy consumption to that of an average American household. Hypocrite.Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 03 21 at 10:05 PM • permalink
- #16
That Pianka f*cker’s been in Oz, you guys can keep him!Looks like he’s got hold of one of our goannas in the pic.
Maybe he got too used to the low population density in WA … prolly the lowest in the inhabited world … he’d fit a few Texas’ in WA!
- If we kill the planet billions will die.
To save the planet billions must die.
Hmmm… I imagine we’ll have a smidgeon more fun killing it.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 03 21 at 11:08 PM • permalink
- I’ll start it off with seeing if I can give the earth tetanus by stabbing it with a rusty nail.
Good plan! Maybe Mother Gaia will get lockjaw and quit her bitchin about SUVs and airconditioners and every other shittin’ thing thats comfortable or convenient.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 03 21 at 11:20 PM • permalink
And this is not a ‘third world problem’ every single Briton consumes vastly more than an impoverished peasant farmer in Central Africa.
Why is it that the Catastophists are always making that lameass comparison, complaining that the (insert evil selfish Western exploiter nation here) middle class “consumes far more” than some poor bastard living hand to mouth who is perpetually *this* close to starvation??? Jesus H. Christ. I remember a news story recently where some pretentious perfesser type approvingly pointed out that the people with the smallest “carbon footprint” were the Somalis, neglecting (yeah, right!) to also point out that the life expectency at birth of the average Somali was 45!
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 03 21 at 11:48 PM • permalink
- 71. They weren’t ignoring it Spiny, they were counting on it.Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 03 22 at 12:01 AM • permalink
- Didn’t PJ O’Rourke have a chapter on this “problem” in one of his books? I recall it was entitled “Just Enough of Me, Way Too Much of You.”Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 03 22 at 10:58 AM • permalink
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peopleliberals exist on this planet”There, fixed it…..