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Will John Kerry ever find a Vietnam exit strategy?

Those who disagree with the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq face the same scornful charges that they are unpatriotic as Sen. John Kerry did 35 years ago when he spoke out against the Vietnam War, the Massachusetts Democrat said Saturday.

“I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong. And to affirm that it is both a right and an obligation for Americans today to disagree with a president who is wrong, a policy that is wrong, and a war in Iraq that weakens the nation,” Kerry said to a standing ovation Saturday at Boston’s historic Faneuil Hall.

Possibly those ovating were Republicans, delighted that Kerry is thinking hard about running in ‘08.

Posted by Tim B. on 04/23/2006 at 10:34 AM
    1. Lurch is bloviating about his “glorious past” again, is he? Does he also advocate Leftist protest groups negotiating with Osama bin Laden, as he took it upon himself to meet with the North Vietnamese? Perhaps he should tell his audience that their “glowing” comparisons of George Bush to Adolf Hitler are inviting scornful charges.

      What a pretentious idiot.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 04 23 at 10:52 AM • permalink


    1. Kerry is an “and’’ophile.  No single phrase will ever do, because another one pops into his head and he can’t resist joining them.  It has the sound of oratory, he thinks.  Posterity is listening.  I myself recommend going to “or’’s :

      “I come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong or to affirm that is a right or an obligation to disagree with a President who is wrong, a policy that is wrong, or a war in Iraq that weakens the nation, whatever.’’

      to taper off gradually, before returning to private life as a bus driver.

      “Coming here today’’ is from the Gettysburg Address, which is what set him off looking for phrases to add.

      “People will little remember’’ he didn’t remember.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 04 23 at 11:19 AM • permalink


    1. Maybe coming here today is from King’s I have a dream speech.  Lincoln only said we come to consecrate.

      Somebody ask Kerry where it comes from.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 04 23 at 11:23 AM • permalink


    1. Vietnam was “wrong” and Iraq “weakens the nation” Kerry tells us. Wow, that’s high speed reductionism in the service of the enemy.

      And this guy would be President?

      Posted by splice on 2006 04 23 at 11:30 AM • permalink


    1. Kerry is yesterday’s news. He was supposed to be Mr. Electable in 2004, but despite a flood of helpful leaks from the Mary McCarthy’s of the Intelligence community still managed to lose to Chimpy McHaliburton.

      At this point the smart money is on Hillary, and she has lots of it.  Kerry is nearly as irrelevant today as Al Smith was in 1932.

      Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2006 04 23 at 11:36 AM • permalink


    1. Christian Schutze has an all-purpose speech that Kerry can use

      (Stenciled Speech for All Occasions, cited by Adorno in _The Jargon of Authenticity_)

      It lacks the trademark “and’’ sequences however.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 04 23 at 11:40 AM • permalink


    1. Most likely the Democrats will tell him to sit down and shut up before long.  They’ve been humiliated enough lately, what do they need him for?

      And no, he will never stop trying to justify his Vietnam treachery.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 04 23 at 11:52 AM • permalink


    1. #1:  “What a pretentious idiot.”

      I would have said “f*cking idiot,” SN, but I bow to your more mature elegant phrasology.  ;-p

      I do have one question for JF’inK, however:  Did you have to go to Stupid School, or is this a natural talent?

      Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2006 04 23 at 11:58 AM • permalink


    1. We are already bombarded with media and democrat (pardon the redundancy) predictions of a clean sweep for the democrats in this year’s elections. Much the same as their predictions for ‘04 and ‘02.  My gut tells me that as long as the democrats continue to advocate appeasement and treason as their policies in the war on terror, they will keep losing elections. Then we can again hear about how stupid the American people are for the next 2 years.

      Posted by Latino on 2006 04 23 at 12:04 PM • permalink


    1. Please.  Please.  Please.

      As there is a God in Heaven, let John Kerry Run.

      I so want to hear Kerry ragging on Hillary for her draft-dodger husband during the primaries.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 12:28 PM • permalink


    1. I have lived my life with the precept that people from Massachusetts are morons.  I see no reason to change now.

      Posted by ushie on 2006 04 23 at 12:36 PM • permalink


    1. I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong

      Whether it was wrong could be a matter of honest disagreement. But one does not have the right to lie.

      Apparently Horseface hasn’t accepted the fact that his Winter Soldiers testimony was a lying slander on his brother soldiers. Or he doesn’t care. Which makes him either stupid, or treacherous. But don’t dare question his patriotism!

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 04 23 at 01:09 PM • permalink


    1. John Kerry?  or Al Gore?  Who … should … I … support?

      Posted by wronwright on 2006 04 23 at 01:25 PM • permalink


    1. From Ending History by Hillary Rodham Clinton (typewritten manuscript recovered in 2013…)

      I could hardly breathe. Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, ‘What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me? I was furious and getting more so by the second… but Ahmedinajad launched the second missile anyway.”

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 01:44 PM • permalink


    1. I have come here today to .. ahh .. sorta ask .. wasn’t 1971 a little late in the piece to dissent from the war? Right or wrong? A bit like saying the civil war was a real bad idea in 1864? A matter of opinion but not draining of an enormous amount of moral courage?

      Posted by geoff on 2006 04 23 at 02:53 PM • permalink


    1. Another great American military hero did in fact condemn the Civil War in 1864: General McClellan.  He even tried to run for President on it…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 02:57 PM • permalink


    1. YES! Kerry Picks Up Key Endorsement!

      The Republic is SAVED!

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 04:03 PM • permalink


    1. go kerry!

      where can I bet against?

      Posted by Rob Read on 2006 04 23 at 04:25 PM • permalink


    1. The last few years, I’ve had a hard time chosing between Kerry and Kennedy for the Upper Class Twit of the Year Award.  Except for 2004, that is.  Terrrraaaaza made it a slam dunk that year, even though John-boy was out in front.

      Posted by saltydog on 2006 04 23 at 04:44 PM • permalink


    1. There’s nothing upperclass about either of those clowns.  A jumped-up lace-curtain Mick grown fat on a runrunner’s fortune and a pretentious eurotrash gigolo (Kerry ain’t the original family name).  The back of your hand to both of ‘em.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 05:40 PM • permalink


    1. Methinks all that Botox has penetrated into Lurch’s brain.  But if Kennedy wants to support him in 2008, send him another case of cheap gin, says I.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 04 23 at 05:50 PM • permalink


    1. Yes!  Let John Football Kerry run again!  With Fat Teddy K as his running mate!  It will either deal the final killing blow to the Democrats, or force them to reorganize and get real.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 04 23 at 05:59 PM • permalink


    1. saltydog

      Good afternoon and welcome to Hurlingham Park.

      You join us just as the competitors are running out onto the field on this lovely winter’s afternoon here, with the going firmunderfoot and very little sign of rain. Well it certainly looks as though we’re in for a splendid afternoon’s sport in this the 127th Upperclass Twit of the Year Show. Well the competitors will be off in a moment so let me just identify for you.

      (camera zooms in on the competitors)

      Vivian Smith-Smythe-Smith has an O-level in chemo-hygiene. Simon-Zinc-Trumpet-Harris, married to a very attractive table lamp. Nigel Incubator-Jones, his best friend is a tree, and in his spare time he’s a stockbroker. Gervaise Brook-Hampster is in the Guards, and his father uses him as a wastepaper basket. And finally Oliver St John-Mollusc, Harrow and the Guards, thought by many to be this year’s outstanding twit.

      Now they’re moving up to the starting line, there’s a jolly good crowd here today.

      Now they’re under starter’s orders…and they’re off…

      …Ah no, they’re not.

      No they didn’t realize they were supposed to start. Never mind, we’ll soon sort that out, the judge is explaining it to them now. I think Nigel and Gervaise have got the idea.
      All set to go…

      Posted by murph on 2006 04 23 at 06:47 PM • permalink


    1. Plain and simple…Kerry is an elitist piece of shit….He’s is on every side of every argument. Got himself four medals three of which were for ‘wounds’ that required no stays at medical facilities. The fourth medal required Kerry to be on his knees for a period of time.

      AND has yet, for close to OR over a year, since he promised the fat bastard Tim Russert, to release his full military record.

      PLUS he’s married to a fucking witch. Is friends with a Senator who killed a young lady…and a former Presidential candidate who stated on TV (in a debate) when asked if someone raped and killed his wife, would he want the death penalty for the person convicted…this asshole said NO.

      Other then that, being a bit more guttural then Spiny Norman…John Kerry is a fucking idiot.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 04 23 at 06:55 PM • permalink


    1. Senator Kerrys mentor…CNN’s Bernard Shaw opened the debate with this question to Gov. Dukakis: “Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?” Dukakis responded, “No, I don’t, Bernard.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 04 23 at 07:06 PM • permalink


    1. If only a magic hat could get us out of this mess! Does the Peterman catalogue still carry the Urban Sombrero?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2006 04 23 at 07:08 PM • permalink


    1. If the Dems run Kerry in 2008, they’ll lose. If they run John Edwards, they’ll lose. And if they run Hillary, they’ll lose. Why? Because Senators have never run anything but their own mouths, and only one has won the Presidency from the Senate (JFK, 1960).

      If the Dems are smart (and I’m not betting they are), they’ll run a conservative southern or mid-western governor in 2008.

      Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 04 23 at 07:22 PM • permalink


    1. Link for #25

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 04 23 at 07:30 PM • permalink


    1. Richard @ 10

      “Lurch” as Spiro Agnew!!!

      “Are we now to descend, like latter-day Spiro Agnews, as he did, to the worst instincts of divisiveness and reaction that still haunt America?  Are we now going to create a new scarlet letter in the context of Vietnam?” 138 Cong Rec S2479 2/27/92

      All those people in the little boats might have something to say.

      Wronwright.  Vote for both-early and often.

      Posted by yojimbo on 2006 04 23 at 07:42 PM • permalink


    1. If the Dems are smart (and I’m not betting they are), they’ll run a conservative southern or mid-western governor in 2008.

      Jimmy Carter is still eligible, isn’t he?

      Posted by PW on 2006 04 23 at 07:42 PM • permalink


    1. Jimmy Carter is still eligible, isn’t he?

      God, PW, don’t do that to me!!! My heart almost went into fibrillation when I read that.  I’d rather import Mark Latham for the next President.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 04 23 at 08:21 PM • permalink


    1. Dig this jawdropper from Lurch’s speech:

      Then, and even now, there were many alarmed by dissent—many who thought that staying the course would eventually produce victory—or that admitting the mistake and ending it would embolden our enemies around the world. History disproved them before another decade was gone: Fourteen years elapsed between the first major American commitment of helicopters and pilots to Vietnam and the fall of Saigon. Fourteen years later, the Berlin Wall fell, and with it the Communist threat. You cannot tell me that withdrawing from Vietnam earlier would have changed that outcome.

      Millions of boat people and dead Cambodians weren’t available for comment.

      Posted by Sean M on 2006 04 23 at 09:53 PM • permalink


    1. Lurch neglects to remember the world-wide sweep of victorious Comuunism during the late 70s in the years after South Vietnam and the US lost the war there.  Lots of African coutnries went over to the USSR, thinking the the Commies were on a roll and winning.  In Latin America they got a big boost, and took over Nicaragua.  Even some European countries teetered on the brink, and the Euros were thrown into such a panic that appeasement and preemptive disarmament became the order of the day.  Only after Reasgan’s election and the steps his administration took did things turn around.

      If it had ben left up to Lurch and his comrades the USSR would still be around and the US would still be in the cringing appeasment mode Carter had us in.  Kerry was wrong in 1971 and he is wrong today.

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 04 23 at 10:28 PM • permalink


    1. Teddy the swimmer sure is getting big too. I think it was Imus said he looks like a 50 gallon drum with an upside down bucket on top.
      #14, Rich, you made the hair on my neck stand up.

      Posted by Latino on 2006 04 23 at 11:11 PM • permalink


    1. Sean M.  — Hey, come on, Kerry went on national teevee in 71 and told us there’d be 5-6,000 refugees tops, remember?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 23 at 11:38 PM • permalink


    1. Calls to mind the brilliant Peter Sellars monologue, Party Political Speech.  If you haven’t heard this imagine it spoken in an elderly, faltering, High Tory voice:

      My friends, in the light of present-day developments, let me say right away that I do not regard existing conditions lightly.  On the contrary, I have regarded them as subjects of the gravest responsibility, and shall ever continue to do so.  Indeed, I will even go further and state quite categorically that I am more than sensible of the definition of the precise issues which are at this moment concerning us all.  We must build, but we must build surely.

      Let me say just this.  If any part of what I say is challenged, then I am more than happy to meet that challenge, for I have no doubt whatsoever that whatever I have said in the past, or what I am saying now, is the exact, literal and absolute truth as to the state of the case.  I put it to you that this is not a time for vague promises of better things to come, for if I were to convey to you a spirit of false optimism then I should be neither fair to you nor true to myself.  But does mean, I hear you cry, that we can no longer look forward to the future that is to come?  Certainly not!

      Grasp, I beseech you, with both hands — oh, I’m sorry, I beg your pardon, Madam — the opportunities that are offered.  Let us assume a bold front and go forward together.  Let us carry the fight against ignorance the four corners of the earth, because it is a fight which concerns us all.  And now finally, my friends, in conclusion, let me say just this…

      I think this may be (c) Max Schreiner approx 1962.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2006 04 24 at 06:55 AM • permalink


    1. Repeal the 22nd! Bush-Kerry Rematch Deathmatch! Whooooooo!

      THRILL as Kerry wets his trousers!
      CHEER as Bush pulls Kerry’s head out of Kerry’s own ass!
      HEAVE as Kerry is split open and NO GUTS spill out!

      Posted by Monroe Doctrine on 2006 04 24 at 10:46 AM • permalink


    1. John Kerry – ‘The truth is patriotic. And so are lies like the ones I told at the congressional hearings!’

      Posted by Bandit on 2006 04 24 at 11:53 AM • permalink


    1. “We are in the same place as we were when I came home from Vietnam and spoke out against the civilian leaders who were willing to sacrifice America’s best in the interest of political self-preservation,” he said.

      You only wish we were in the same place, John. Take off your tinfoil magic hat and get a clue. Idiot.

      While you Ozzies argueably dodged the bigger bullet in the last election, I think everyone would have to agree that we dodged a pretty big one.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 04 24 at 01:53 PM • permalink


    1. I can’t listen to the maggot-brained, mealymouthed arrogant creep. Same with Uncle Teddy.

      As Taranto says, Mary Jo Kopechne was not available for comment – and neither were the millions who died at the hands of the Communists Kerry was too chicken to fight.

      They just make me sick…

      Posted by Auntie KC on 2006 04 24 at 08:32 PM • permalink


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