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Last updated on March 6th, 2018 at 12:29 am
Those concerned about the UK’s proposed religious hatred bill may be interested in the result of an Australian vilification case:
An evangelical Christian group incited hatred and severe ridicule of Muslims when it called them demons, liars and terrorists, a tribunal ruled yesterday.
In the landmark ruling, Catch the Fire Ministries pastors Daniel Nalliah and Daniel Scot were found guilty of religious vilification, making them the first under Victoria’s new race and religion hate laws.
Pastor Scot told a congregation in a 2002 seminar that Muslims were training to take over Australia and encouraged domestic violence, and that Islam was an inherently violent religion.
Yesterday in the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, Judge Michael Higgins found that throughout the seminar Pastor Scot had made fun of Muslim beliefs and conduct.
Which is illegal, apparently.
Judge Higgins will hear submissions from lawyers relating to fines in January.
Under the new vilification legislation, there is no maximum fine.
- there you go kids. islamic beliefs and conduct are NOT fun.Posted by Deo Vindice on 12/18 at 09:48 PM • permalink
- So, there is no Freedom of Speech in Australia? Perhaps it is time for you folk to start a rebellion. If you can’t speak against certain people, religions, or idiots, perhaps you can still speak agains certain ideas or legislation? You might set an example for the USA. If some have their way here, we may end up in the same condition.
- Wait, were any *actual* Muslims tangibly hated and ridiculed over this?Posted by Aaron – Free Will on 12/19 at 03:45 AM • permalink
- Is Phillip Adams going to be prosecuted next for his public atheism?Posted by richard mcenroe on 12/19 at 04:54 AM • permalink
- It cuts both ways, now Gunns Timber are sueing green “activists” for damages including villification. Should make proponents of free speech more responsible.
The muslim society in Australia freely advocate that there is an unjust “war on islam” being waged by the propaganda forces of the US (similar to Hitler)
They call it [I]”cultural imperialism” and it is in every corner of the earth. In every parliamentary sitting, in every board of directors, in every television set and newspaper, in every supermarket and department store and in every school and university.”….
In fact two teams are presently assembling in global quarters, on the one side is the Bush camp (although he is dispensable and it doesn�t matter who the figurehead is, it�s the mentality that matters) and on the other side is a very diverse group of free-thinking people which range from anti-globalisation social environmentalists, human rights activists and rogue states which are being exploited for their economic, strategic or political value….
There is a small light at the end of the tunnel. The light is justice and compassion. And it lies in the hearts of the people. The general populus who are being exploited and cheated by the ruling classes (who make up less than 5% and who are in control of 90% of the wealth) will one day wake up to the inequality and injustice and many will disappear in the late hours of the night but one day a true champion of the people will emerge and lead us out of the darkness.[/I]
And so on and so on.
Laced within are stories on the good taliban maybe women should get the vote and evil Israeli scientists breeding GM chickens.
All good fun.
- in every television set and newspaper, in every supermarket and department store and in every school and university
How come it’s not in my paper? > I write letters and complain but it does no good.Posted by papertiger on 12/19 at 09:34 AM • permalink
- this is what happens when labour govs get elected, they try to socially enginer society by using tribunals and punishments to modify behaviour.
all it does is push disent underground where it will smolder and fester until it breaks out in extreme violence.
better to keep it above ground where opinions and voices can be heard and debated.Posted by vinnyboombutts on 12/19 at 09:37 AM • permalink
- How many Islamists in Australia have been tried under this law? I recall reading some pretty ‘hate filled’ speeches from Australian Islamists, aimed at the beliefs and conduct of Australians.
I think the law is bunk, but if it’s going to be applied it should apply to all.Posted by CJosephson on 12/19 at 07:23 PM • permalink
- I live in the USA, and all I can say is: thank God for the First Amendment.
It couldn’t happen here. I think. At least, not outside a university.Posted by Tom O’Bedlam on 12/20 at 08:01 AM • permalink