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Iranian political analyst Hosein Rouyvaran reveals Nazi Germany’s caring side:

The gas chambers were for disinfecting the clothes and the possessions of the prisoners.

Posted by Tim B. on 01/04/2006 at 12:28 AM
    1. yes, and for cleaning their filings after prising them from their teeth

      Posted by larrikin on 2006 01 04 at 01:45 AM • permalink


    1. And the fences surrounding large swaths of land, were just a meens of protecting endangered European-prarie-grass.

      /Iranian political analyst.

      Posted by Thomas on 2006 01 04 at 01:50 AM • permalink


    1. It’s true, my clothes haven’t been so clean since I’ve started using Zyklon B. And can’t beat that sweet Cyanide smell!

      Posted by HC44 on 2006 01 04 at 01:53 AM • permalink


    1. And those soft-hearted National Socialists even provided free transportation.  Is there no end to their wonderfulness?

      Posted by Achillea on 2006 01 04 at 01:57 AM • permalink


    1. Has David Irving changed his name?

      Posted by captain on 2006 01 04 at 01:58 AM • permalink


    1. Nah. He just has a world-wide fan base.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 01 04 at 02:01 AM • permalink


    1. <Iranian Official Line>And the trains that took Jewish children from France? They were just Holiday specials. The 6 million or so Jews who used to live in Europe, why, they used their nefarious Jewish contacts to emigrate, and start up poison-banana businesses in between slaughtering muslim children to make Passover Matzoh meal.

      And it’s all Bush’s fault, remember that.</Iranian Official Line>

      Posted by Zoe Brain on 2006 01 04 at 02:08 AM • permalink


    1. They are cruisin’ for a bruisin’!

      Posted by Patricia on 2006 01 04 at 02:10 AM • permalink


    1. Probably the same ‘denial’ technique used to argue that Iran is not trying to manufacture a nuclear weapon.

      The Doomsday Clock must be ticking!

      Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 01 04 at 02:10 AM • permalink


    1. #9, I can hear it, why can’t they?

      Posted by Mike H. on 2006 01 04 at 02:13 AM • permalink


    1. #9, there’s a big Iran nuclear story breaking now, in the Guardian even!

      Posted by IanMc on 2006 01 04 at 02:14 AM • permalink


    1. There’s no end to the recycled lies and calumnies the Iranians are coming up with.  According to Iranian political analyst, Hasan Hanizadeh, even if the Holocaust had happened. which it hadn’t, there was plenty of reason to get back at the Jews:

      Unfortunately, the West has forgotten two horrendous incidents, carried out by the Jews in 19th-century Europe – in Paris and London, to be precise. In 1883, about 150 French children were murdered in a horrible way in the suburbs of Paris, before the Jewish Passover holiday. Later research showed that the Jews had killed them and taken their blood. This event caused riots in Paris back then, and the French government found itself under pressure.

      Found on a very good site:

      Posted by Seneca on 2006 01 04 at 02:22 AM • permalink


    1. #4.  And you can bet those trains ran on time, dammit!

      Posted by Brett_McS on 2006 01 04 at 02:40 AM • permalink


    1. Iranian political analyst is a Holocaust denier? No surprise there, especially with the revelation recently that Iran has created ‘academics’ to seek out info on how to build their nukes.

      Terror-ible situation with Iran. That regime is going to destroy Israel if it gets the chance. My flatmate suggested the US should take a page from Israel’s book, and get in there before they have a chance to build up any kind of arsenal, just like the IDF did to Iraq’s (French-purchased/built reactor) in the 80s.

      I’m inclined to agree.

      Posted by anthony27 on 2006 01 04 at 02:40 AM • permalink


    1. Operation Barbarossa was in fact a relief effort- it certainly rescued a lot of Ruskies, Ukranians, Belorussians, Caucasians and Cossacks from starvation*.
      *Bit hard to starve when you’ve been shot through the head and dumped in an enormous hole.

      Posted by Habib on 2006 01 04 at 02:49 AM • permalink


    1. Who said ‘denial’ was a river in Egypt – it now appears to run smack down the middle of Tehran!

      Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 01 04 at 02:57 AM • permalink


    1. I have every faith that the US is making mounds of intelligence available to the Israelis, and Israeli aircraft will handle the situation, with the understanding that we will publicly “express concern” over the action after it occurs.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 01 04 at 03:04 AM • permalink


    1. This cannot just be dismissed out of hand by those espousing the Zionist narrative. There is more than one truth, and we need to listen to both sides. The main thing is that a dialogue is in place.

      /Creeping leftie postmodern moral equivalence
      Uggghhh… I feel dirty after that…

      Great to see multitalented political analysts (do they even have real ones in theocratic psudo-democracy dirtholes like Iran?) branching out into Holocaust denial. An analyst AND a historian ! Hey, he probably also runs an “ask a loony Shiite Imam” website and works a uranium centrifuge on weekends too! Gotta cater to those legitimate electricity needs…

      Posted by sixdays on 2006 01 04 at 03:16 AM • permalink


    1. 6 000 000 Jews with germ free clothes.

      Sixdays, I thought I was reading Foucault then.

      Posted by Major Anya on 2006 01 04 at 03:30 AM • permalink


    1. The Nazis were so humane in their caring for the Jews and now Iran is so thoughtful towards Israel in seeking to provide such a healthy environment.

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2006 01 04 at 03:44 AM • permalink


    1. Ot breaking news
      THE ruler of Dubai, United Arab Emirates Deputy President Sheikh Maktoum bin Rashed al-Maktoum, has died, the official news agency WAM announced today.
      On the gold Coast ?

      Posted by davo on 2006 01 04 at 03:45 AM • permalink


    1. I’ve got to admire* that man. To say that and keep a straight face is nothing short of amazing.

      *Find completely disgusting.

      Posted by chrisbg99 on 2006 01 04 at 03:48 AM • permalink


    1. If you think the DISGUSTING Iranian lies and distortions are only for the Jews.
      wait till you hear the spin on Maktoum’s demise.

      Posted by davo on 2006 01 04 at 03:52 AM • permalink


    1. Fortunately I don’t know who that is.

      But if it is coming from the Iranians I can be sure it’d make me sick to my stomach.

      Posted by chrisbg99 on 2006 01 04 at 03:57 AM • permalink


    1. The gas chambers were for disinfecting the clothes and the possessions of the prisoners.

      Oh, and for exterminating six million jews.  Did I forget to mention that?  My bad.

      You can’t spell analyst without anal.

      Posted by Craig Mc on 2006 01 04 at 04:09 AM • permalink


    1. We can all play at this historical revision game.

      I believe Mohammed the Prophet didn’t exist and the Koran was written by a naughty boy named Brian. – Prove me wrong.

      Posted by the nailgun on 2006 01 04 at 04:12 AM • permalink


    1. #17.  I would be very surprised if there weren’t special forces in Iran now, sorting out targets.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 2006 01 04 at 04:14 AM • permalink


    1. If you want to see something that will make you truly sick to the stomach see the clips of the Syrian produced television series that Palestinian Media Watch has on its website ( Home Page then click on Bulletins top right of page and then scroll down).

      This 26 episode series was broadcast across Iran in 2004 (during Ramadan of course) and more recently on Jordanian satellite TV and Hezbollah TV (which from memory is or was available in Australia). It is the worst example of racism I have ever encountered. It is as bad, perhaps arguably worse, than the Nazi propaganda films.

      I should warn some of it is very hard to watch. If you wish to spare yourself that I described some of it a few days ago in an earlier thread.

      Posted by geoff on 2006 01 04 at 04:22 AM • permalink


    1. Maktoum had an abscess on the back of his neck. This may have been the cause.
      The Doctor is an Arab Australian
      They are waiting for the body to tryutn yo Dubai.
      If the Authorities release the body too early , there could be a backlash.
      This is a tough one.
      Guess the Magic Millions will go on regardless.

      Posted by davo on 2006 01 04 at 04:25 AM • permalink


    1. For those who do not know who Maktoum was.
      Simply the second most powerful and rich man in the Gulf – the ruler of Dhubai.

      Posted by davo on 2006 01 04 at 04:28 AM • permalink


    1. Longer ago than I thought. Under the “Prejudice against Protocols” thread towards the end. 12/31

      Posted by geoff on 2006 01 04 at 04:30 AM • permalink


    1. It’s true – Maktoum is dead –
      My thoughts are with his family at this very sad time – His twenty wives, ninety six children and two hundred and forty six grandchildren – May God bless them in their hour of need…

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2006 01 04 at 05:21 AM • permalink


    1. The Holocaust donut machines in fact were the origin of the famous “Ich bin ein Berliner’’ phrase Kennedy recalled, a sort of “Never Again.’’

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 01 04 at 05:55 AM • permalink


    1. It’s tempting to make a Pythonesque joke about how 6 million Jews weren’t actually killed, however the facts are this actually isn’t funny.

      Not so much out of avoiding disrespect for victims of the Holocaust, as recognising there is a group of individuals who could very well be responsible for repeating it. They will do this with the full acquiescence of a media and ‘United’ Nations who apologise for them doing so. No laughing matter.

      I believe they are a cancer, which could do with a large dose of radiation.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2006 01 04 at 05:59 AM • permalink


    1. Future Revisionist:
      “And to counter the Bird ‘Flu the Neutron Bomb was used extensively throughout bird infested Middle East”.
      Phew! Thank goodness for that.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 01 04 at 06:00 AM • permalink


    1. DAN
      Absolutely agree.

      Posted by davo on 2006 01 04 at 06:04 AM • permalink


    1. #35. …that old one about the Saudi Prince asking the American President why there are African, Caucasion and Asian characters in Star Trek, but no Arabs?  Well, the President says, that’s because Star Trek is set in the future.

      Posted by Brett_McS on 2006 01 04 at 06:23 AM • permalink


    1. And just in case there are denialists out there, read this from a “trusted source”.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 01 04 at 06:36 AM • permalink


    1. I wish that President George Bush would make the following statement to Iran, and North Korea, and China, and any other shit-holes with nuclear dreams:

      “Fuck with Great Britain, you fuck with us.”

      “Fuck with Israel, you fuck with us.”

      “Fuck with Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan, you fuck with us.”

      “Fuck with Australia, you fuck with us.”

      “Everybody else, well, whatever, that’s between you and them.”

      (Note:  Dialogue taken from the movie “Beautiful Girls”, which was on last night.)

      Posted by David Crawford on 2006 01 04 at 06:38 AM • permalink


    1. Maybe by disinfect he means that before they went into the gas chambers the clothes were infected with jews, after they came out they weren’t.

      Posted by Ross on 2006 01 04 at 07:23 AM • permalink


    1. I have to agree with this man: the ovens and gas chambers were for disinfecting the possessions of the prisoners, namely removing any evidence of their owners from the face of the earth so that these Nazis could then claim these possessions as their own.

      Posted by cjblair on 2006 01 04 at 07:31 AM • permalink


    1. Who else thinks we should “disinfect” Iran’s ruling classes?

      Posted by Rob Read on 2006 01 04 at 07:41 AM • permalink


    1. Speakin of “caring sides”-Maxine McKew fusses like the doting little woman she is over the prospect that Aussie soldiers’jackets may not be warm enough for some of the regions they could be sent to.
      Now Maxie don’t you go shedding tears and exposing your sensitive side.Big girls don’t cry,not on camera anyway.

      Posted by crash on 2006 01 04 at 07:48 AM • permalink


    1. Cant see how effective disinfecting the clothes would have been.
      I mean between the agonising death contortions, loss of bowel and bladder control, vomit, and general wear and tear as the bodies are dragged out to be burnt….

      Id rather like to use a bit of riot strength CS gas to held disinfect Mr beardy weirdys flea infested ballsack.
      This dick WANTS to die, he believes he will usher in a golden age of Islam nuking Israel.
      And the Muslim in charge of the jew hating UN’s atomic agency is suspicously innefective at doing anything.
      But as long as the yanks are the bad guys if they try to stop his STATED INTENTION to commit genocide.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 01 04 at 08:45 AM • permalink


    1. #39- don’t forget Poland!

      Posted by slammer on 2006 01 04 at 08:52 AM • permalink


    1. Oh, sure, clothes disinfected while you wait. Nauseating.

      Posted by paco on 2006 01 04 at 10:37 AM • permalink


    1. It is the West that is in denial! Iran has declared war on the West, and we stand around and scoff at what appears to be the stupidities of the Iranians. Have you forgotten how Hitler begans his war against civilization, with the same anti-Semetic ravings? Britain shrugged and the French declared themselves invincible, for Germany was not relatively stronger at the start than Iran is now. Once Iran has the bomb, Europe will shrivel into duxt and the US will become France. Now it’s time to act, but Churchill screamed the same to Chamberlain, and see what happened.

      Posted by stats on 2006 01 04 at 11:27 AM • permalink


    1. Well said … how do you get this onto a current thread? …

      Posted by Stevo on 2006 01 04 at 11:51 AM • permalink


    1. So there was no Holocaust, and eleven million people didn’t die in Europe in WWII, and Hitler was a good man because he built nice highways, and up is down, and black is white, and…

      Israel won’t turn Iran into a radioactive black-glass parking lot as soon as they twitch toward their nuclear warheads (which they don’t have).

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 01 04 at 01:31 PM • permalink


    1. #48. This thread justifiably mocks Iran’s stupidities, but we appear to be doing so as a means of avoiding a demand for action, just as Europe did in either mocking or ignoring Hitler’s ravings in the early ‘30s.

      Posted by stats on 2006 01 04 at 02:29 PM • permalink


    1. Action such as what, stats?

      Posted by Achillea on 2006 01 04 at 06:06 PM • permalink


    1. #51 Good question. In my own area, I’m working on local and regional representatives to get off their butts and start demanding that the government take the following steps:
      1. Treat the Iranian statements as a declaration of war against a UN member (Israel) and ourselves.
      2. As a consequence, the UN is obliged by its charter to come to the defense of its members against such a clear cut act of aggeression.
      3. This calls for sanctions, economic and military.
      4. To declare that should the UN not take action (and we know it wont), then individual states under the intimidation of aggression, can take, and will take, preemptive action.
      The public expression of such a plan will give the Iranian cowards pause, and will permit Israel to take action in its own defense.

      Posted by stats on 2006 01 04 at 07:16 PM • permalink


    1. Israel doesn’t need permission from anyone to defend itself.  In fact, Israel won’t even bother to wait for the usual UN hem-hawing should a defensive action become necessary, because they know permission to act would never come anyway.  And since Israel is routinely condemned for everything it does, there’s no need to worry about bad public relations either.

      If the rest of us are smart, we’ll opt for Israel’s position.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 01 04 at 07:33 PM • permalink


    1. Fact: Any country which hosts an Iranian Embassy or Consulate, is not safe from terrorism.

      This includes ours.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2006 01 04 at 07:54 PM • permalink


    1. I doubt that Israel has the reach to strike Iranian targets… however, with midair refueling they could.

      And the US has a presence between Israel and Iran.  So the question in my mind is, how does the US provide logistical support to the Israelis, without the DNC and NYT leaking it before it happens?

      Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 01 04 at 08:26 PM • permalink


    1. Israel’s aircraft probably cannot reach the target nuclear processing and construction facilities.  So no airstrike is possible.  In any case the facilities are buried too deep for conventional munitions to destroy them.  The only munitions capable of destroying such hardened targets are nukes, and maybe not the ones Israel has if the targets are deep enough.  Not even Zahal can perform miracles on demand.

      Israel is only the first, in any case. although few people will understand that.  A lot of Euros will just sigh and say the damned Jews had it coming, just as many of them did about 9/11.  Then they’ll be in a panic when Iran starts threatening them somewhere down the road, but have no clue what to do.

      The only safe thing to do with Iran is overthrow the government and replace it with some kind of halfway decent consensual government.  In the longer term this means a two-pronged approach of supporting the democratic movement heavily (although it seems a bit moribund right now) together with supporting an guerilla war against the Mullahs with active sanctuaries in as many of the surrounding countries as we can influence and provide protection for, mostly Iraq and Afghanistan.  These mad Mullahs will start a world war one of these days if we don’t overthrow them.

      Over the short term I think it is in the interests of the US to prevent any kind of a nuke war as well as to prevent nuke terrorism.  We should tell the Iranian Mad Mullahs that if they use their deadly toys we will nuke the country back into the Stone Age (Paleolithic not Neolithic).  Furthermore, if there is any nuclear terrorism, especially against the USA, tell them we will just assume it came from Iran, and nuke them to the stone age for that too.  If it turned out that it wasn’t them, we’ll apologize later, while nuking the real perps.  If the Iranians want to avoid this danger they should overthrow the Mullahs now.  The mullahs are only in power because the Iranians were dumb enough to put them there 26 years ago.  This should be explained very carefully, in a clandestine manner, to the Iranian Army, and the officers should be asked if they think the mullahs’ madness is a good idea.

      The best thing that could happen in Iran right now is for a Pinochet to come to power, somebody who will overthrow the crackpots in power and rule until a suitable transition to democracy can be achieved.  Pinochet waited too long for the latter, but he was still better than turning Chile into a new Cuba.  Similarly an Iranian Pinochet will be preferable to turning Iran into radioactive rubble.

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 01 04 at 08:51 PM • permalink


    1. We have Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and the city of Larson in
      Germany. In the city of Larson alone… Perhaps this hasn’t been dealt with
      extensively… In several days of bombardment, 135,000 people were killed in
      this city.

      I know this seems like an insignificant point to pick on in that torrent of hate-filled garbage, but “the city of Larson”?

      That must have been one hell of a raid, the place was literally wiped off the map

      Posted by jic on 2006 01 04 at 11:25 PM • permalink


    1. Although the Iranians are making lots of noise about Israel, I have to wonder if maybe the Saudis aren’t sweating this one, too.  A couple of nukes into Riyadh and King Khalid Military City and Mecca and Medina have a new landlord…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 05 at 01:12 AM • permalink


    1. #57: Googling for the number 135000 in that context, Dresden comes up high as the probable city. I have no idea how that morphed into “Larson” in this guy’s rantings.

      Posted by PW on 2006 01 05 at 09:10 PM • permalink


    1. PS: I should probably note that the 135,000 figure seems to have originated from notorious holocaust denier David Irving. (What a surprise.) Most sources I would classify as reputable are putting the number at 25,000 to 50,000.

      Posted by PW on 2006 01 05 at 09:19 PM • permalink


    1. Dresden comes up high as the probable city.

      I was pretty sure that Dresden was the city he meant, it usually is the one that comes up when people are playing ‘moral equivalence’ about WWII.  But Larson?

      I suppose it could be a transcription or translation error, maybe Larson is the Farsi and/or Arabic for Dresden?  Anyway, whatever the reason, I thought it was bizarre.

      Posted by jic on 2006 01 05 at 11:32 PM • permalink


    1. #47 It was darkly amusing to read the article in the Oz about Iran scouring the world for “parts” to equip a nuke to hit a city in Europe..not funny I know but if they gotta hit someone,Europe would be their main Western supporter.

      Posted by crash on 2006 01 06 at 05:46 AM • permalink


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