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Well, I guess it’s more exciting than bingo:
A Palestinian grandmother blew herself up in the Gaza Strip, lightly wounding three Israeli soldiers, in the first suicide attack claimed by Hamas in almost two years.
The mother of nine and grandmother of 41 became the oldest Palestinian suicide bomber at the age of 57, approaching troops operating to curb daily rocket attacks, the army said.
Her son is delighted:
“We are really happy. It’s a big operation. She told us last night that she would do a suicide operation. She prepared her clothes for that operation and we are proud.
“‘I don’t want anything, only to die a martyr.’ That’s what she said.”
- No need to worry about the aging population in Gaza…Posted by anthony_r on 2006 11 23 at 10:49 PM • permalink
- I wonder if she gets the virgins.Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 11 23 at 10:56 PM • permalink
- She gets 72 Jamie Duries…Posted by closeapproximation on 2006 11 23 at 10:58 PM • permalink
- So much for consulting the wisdom of your elders over there then?
“Will you still need me?
Will you still explode me?
When Im 64?”Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 23 at 11:01 PM • permalink
- Do you get the virgins if you only wound the targets?
What kind of irresponsible backward culture celebrates a mother and grandmother throwing her life away for absolutely no reason?
Posted by Matthew Lawrence on 2006 11 23 at 11:02 PM • permalink
- Read this comment by her son, Jihad:
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/792142.html“I have already been in an Israeli jail, but God willing I and all of the family will become martyrs, after the great honor we were granted by my mother’s martyr’s death,” he said.
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That would make her funeral a target-rich environment to say the least. May one of them explode prematurely.
- If I were the mother of nine dim-witted children and grandmother to 41 dependents, I’d happily blow myself up, too.Posted by Janis Gore on 2006 11 23 at 11:12 PM • permalink
- Mark Twain: Consider well the proportion of things. It is better to be a young June bug, than an old bird of paradise.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 23 at 11:25 PM • permalink
- “‘I don’t want anything, only to die a martyr.’ That’s what she said.”
So when my granny says “Oh, I don’t want anything for Christmas”, what she really means is that she wants to explode?
Better beef up the Christmas crackers this year.
Posted by blandwagon on 2006 11 23 at 11:31 PM • permalink
- She prepared her clothes for that operation and we are proud.
Burkha: Check
Sensible granny undies: Check
Sensible flat soled granny shoes: Check
Suicide belt: Check
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 23 at 11:44 PM • permalink
- That’s the oldest one in the book.
Pop some explosives in the old’s handbag and send them down to Gaza Buy-Rite to get some dyed tomarters…
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 11 23 at 11:45 PM • permalink
- 41 Grandchildren. does anyone not see why Mark Steyn is so big on demographics?Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 11 23 at 11:56 PM • permalink
- I though our baby boomers were dangerous….
*rimshot*
Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2006 11 24 at 12:10 AM • permalink
- thought
way to destroy a joke
Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2006 11 24 at 12:14 AM • permalink
- It just makes you realize how totally fucking depressed these people must be, day in and day out. I know some Palestinian restaurateurs in Chicago, perfectly ordinary, hardworking immigrant types; but the net psychological effect of being trapped in a society you’ve collectively ruined must be horrible. I don’t say this to excuse what they do, it’s just, imagine life in a society of 10 million Columbine shooters of all ages, basically.
- Hope the family take after the mother.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 24 at 12:34 AM • permalink
- “We are really happy. It’s a big operation.”
Lightly wounding 3 is a big operation? her 41 grandchildren throwing rocks could probably lightly wound 3 and they’d still be able to fight another day.
if you lower your standards enough you’ll never be disappointed.
Hamas is probably analyzing the success of this “big operation”. Do the Israeli military find an old woman ululating at them suspicious? Was it a bad sign when they told her to drive the israelis into the sea and she said she can’t drive because she doesn’t have a driver’s license? Could granny have been more nimble with a walker?
Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2006 11 24 at 12:35 AM • permalink
The Beeb interviewed her daughter, who was 12 years younger than her. So she was banged up at 11 years old or shortly after her 12th birthday.
I guess the Prophet was in town that week. BTW, wasn’t there an old TV show about this sort of thing? I think it was called Momma Blows Best.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 24 at 01:02 AM • permalink
- So her 9 kids have had almost 5 kids each. Assuming her children don’t spontaneously explode at an Israeli check point or kindergarten and they match their mothers record their lineage will look something like this
1 Palestinian granny has 9 children
Each 9 children have 9 children = 81 splodey dopes
Each grand child has 9 children = 729 splodey dopesMaybe we should drop boxes of condoms instead of bombs on these arseholes.
- Now if the old men would just start stepping up to the plate.
I’d prefer no one did, but more seriously, this is a patriarchy and the *leaders* do not blow themselves up. It’s a horrific enough tactic, but the immorality of encouraging others to make sacrifices that you would not. ever. make. makes the actual suicide bomber look admirable. Their powerful male lives are important, too important. But talking the young into killing themselves or talking women into doing one of the few things they are allowed to do to gain public praise and admiration…
The whole culture is diseased.
- What I find really disturbing in this is the lack of respect and honour they have for her. In our terms, that is.
Here is a woman who has obviously passed her childbearing years, so is therefore of no further use.
I know, let’s blow up Nana!
It is bad enough that young men (and then women) were being brainwashed into blowing themselves and others up, but to have so little regard for the elder members of your society is worse, I believe.
It is a tragedy that she also was conditioned to believe that there is so little worth living for in this life that she would throw away her own in the attempt to take others with her.
I’d like to see some of our aussie muslims’ take on this.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 11 24 at 01:16 AM • permalink
- Nana, in this case, is a cool eight years older than I am.Posted by Janis Gore on 2006 11 24 at 01:21 AM • permalink
- Current negotiations between Hamas and Israel:
H: Er, look, we were well out of order with those rockets attacks. How bout we call it a day? We’ll nix the rockets if you withdraw from Gaza.
I: Lemme think about that one. Any chance you could, you know, stop calling for our extermination – maybe lay off on the suicide guys?
H: WHAT? Are you retarded? Take this HE grandma you son of a monkey!
Don’t think of them as grandkids, think of them more as flechettes.
- I thought I remembered reading a while back that the Gaza strip had the highest birth-rate in the world.
Wikipedia has the birth-rate at just under 6 per woman. I’m not sure if that means women of child-bearing age or averaged across all females in the popluation? It also doesn’t mention how many of those children are from parents who are 1st cousins – another quaint tradition.
I’m sure that this Nanna wasn’t the only girl in the Middle East to start pumping out babies before she was even a teenager. Why is something that would count as pedophilia in the rest of the civilized world be completely unmentioned by the MSM and Femonazis alike?
- Next time granny complains about a kerosine bath, she’s off to Gaza.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 24 at 01:51 AM • permalink
- Nah, she just hadnt had her colostomy bag changed for a week or 2.
Suprizing how europe can be just an hours fight away from the biggest cesspool of rights abuses, thugs, pedophiles, and corruption in the world and still see fit to lecture the US for trying to improve things.
We had a few ladies in detention who would have been about 13 or 14 when they had their first kid.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 24 at 02:04 AM • permalink
Suprizing how europe can be just an hours fight away
Freudian slip, there, frollickingmole? Still, the Euros are hoping that the crocodile will eat them last so maybe they’ll discover that it’s truer than they know.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 24 at 02:41 AM • permalink
- I watched a programme on Palestinians and it made me feel slightly sick to see these inhuman hate filled horrors inducting their small children into their vile culture.
Mad dogs would have been nice bow wows in comparison.
The all powerful heroic leaders would never strap a suicide belt on their own beloved bodies, send out the young and the old. What utter cowards they are.Poor bloody Israel, fancy having that dreadful lot as neighbours.
“Pardon me, but could you spare a cupful of rabies until next week?”
- i think it’s important we all just take a deep breath, step back, and remind ourselves that the islamite palestinians aren’t just crazy not-quite-humans, said the concerned humanist.
they’re just like us. they have hopes and dreams; they love their children – even if granny semtex DID name one “jihad” -; all they want is peace. to live a good life, and die surrounded by 50 or 60 grandkids. that’s all.
surely we can reason with them.
Posted by jimmy quest on 2006 11 24 at 03:07 AM • permalink
- Any wonder then why Israeli prefers building a tall wall separating these people from Israelis? When leftist groups protest against “the wall” as being a violation of human rights (and never protests against the violations of Israelis human rights), I basically ignore them.
Needless to say, I do that quite a lot.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 11 24 at 03:08 AM • permalink
- You can’t reason with people who have no reasoning capabilities as there is no middle ground.
I have just moved to the Middle East and it seems that it is more important to take someone to court for giving them the middle finger than any anything important than trying to stop hostilities against everyone. They are just like little kids who are petulant and arogant as they can only see their side of the story and not take the time to see the other side as they don’t care about the otherside.
Posted by artful-dodger on 2006 11 24 at 03:19 AM • permalink
- andycanuck
Yup got me there, If its the french subtract an hour or so…..
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 24 at 03:36 AM • permalink
- Well, now, since the women and children are so fired up to become martyrs, why hesitate killing the “human shields” who are protecting murderers? It is obvious that not bombing the hell out of them just hurts their chances to get a room at the Paradise Hotel. I’m not against assisted suicide in this case. Help them along, grant them their most fervent wish, bring happiness to all, I sez. It’s the only humane thing to do.
- Our grandmas: A bit chunky.
Their grandmas: Bits ‘n’ chunks.Posted by Jim Treacher on 2006 11 24 at 04:55 AM • permalink
- Hey Miranda, where are you now? Why aren’t you crowing and sending links about this? We see daily reminders of the same kind of thing here in Iraq where many of the same people who profess to be guided in their every move by religion and supposedly pray 5 times a day are capable of brutally torturing and murdering innocent men, women and children merely because of their name or sect. Where are you now Miranda, Oh defender of the downtrodden?
- MarkL
Theres an opening there for me to make a crack about a “bright young lad needed to fill in”.
Luckily I have too much taste for anything as crass as that….Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 24 at 05:40 AM • permalink
- I am disgusted by the disrespect some commenters have shown. There is no other possible method the oppressed Palestinian people can use to drive the Jews into the sea.Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 11 24 at 06:01 AM • permalink
- #38 The whole culture is diseased
My oath! I’d really rather not have to read about anything more that they do. Sick, sick, sick, nasty and disgusting!
And #49 surely we can reason with them
No. We can’t. Not without putting them through some sort of brain cleansing to get rid of the effects of the brain-washing they’ve already been through. You cannot reason with someone who has only ever heard one side of the story and thinks it’s the only side there is.
Matt Price recently had a blog entry on Lindsay Tanner’s recent speech about “Luuurning” and, having read the speech I can only say that it’s a dog’s breakfast of a hypocritical, self-righteous, ignorant, incoherent rant. But lots of commenters thought it “spot on”. Probably all been through our public education system since the mid 80’s. God save us all!
Troops saw a woman approaching them in a suspicious manner and identified her carrying an explosive device,” a spokeswoman said of the incident in the northern town of Jabaliya.
“They then threw a stun grenade in her direction but she managed to blow herself up,” the spokeswoman said, adding that three soldiers were lightly hurt.
You mean those indiscriminately murdering Israelis didn’t just indiscriminately murder her?
“She did this operation in response to the Beit Hanun massacre. She was very moved by what happened,” said Azhar, speaking from home in Jabaliya where relatives came to congratulate Najar’s nearest and dearest.
Azhar also said her mother had taken part in a daring rescue operation, staged by Palestinian mothers and wives, who acted as human shields to free more than a dozen gunmen holed up in a Beit Hanun mosque on November 3.
Even if she already was a dedicated war criminal and wannabe murderer?
- “Did I ever show you my last detonation?”Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 11 24 at 09:06 AM • permalink
- Fuck it,go to http://www.worldthreats.com,go to Europe section, look up Poem for the french, then somebody bring it here.
- #25
41 Grandchildren. does anyone not see why Mark Steyn is so big on demographics?
#43
I thought I remembered reading a while back that the Gaza strip had the highest birth-rate in the world.
Wikipedia has the birth-rate at just under 6 per woman. I’m not sure if that means women of child-bearing age or averaged across all females in the popluation? It also doesn’t mention how many of those children are from parents who are 1st cousins – another quaint tradition
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Here are the figures courtesy of the CIA. Links follow:
*In July 2006, the population of the Gaza Strip was an estimated 1,428,757 of whom 48.1% were under the age of fifteen. The median age is 15.8 years. The Total Fertility Rate (TFR) of 5.78 children per woman is among the highest in the world. The average life expectancy of 71.97 years is the highest in the Arab world, except the West Bank.
*The July 2004 estimate of the population of the West Bank is 2,460,492 of whom 42.9 are under 15 and the median age is 18.3. The TFR estimate for 2006 is 4.28 kids per woman and the life expectancy at birth is 73.27 years.
*The number of Arab Palestinian refugees in 1948 is disputed but estimates range from 400,000 to about 650,000. Currently over 4.3 million people are registered as refugees with UNRWA. UNRWA’s definition of a refugee covers the descendants of persons who became refugees in 1948. (Now into the fourth generation)
*The estimated population of Israel at July 2006 is 6,352,117 of whom 22.6% is Arab. 26.6% are under 15, the median age is 29.6, life expectancy at birth is 79.46 and the TFR is 2.41 kids per woman but is much higher among the Arab minority.Keep in mind that a central claim of Palestinian “moderates” is a “two-state solution” by which Israel is allowed to exist if it concedes the so-called “Palestinian Right of Return”.
- fuckwit!Posted by platey mates on 2006 11 24 at 09:49 AM • permalink
- Re. #34, I was mistaken; the old show was actually My Mother the Car-Bomb.Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 24 at 11:19 AM • permalink
- Couldn’t the evil Israelis put some contraceptives in the drinking water?Posted by miriams ideas on 2006 11 24 at 11:33 AM • permalink
- #36, BIWOZ, I’m not certain, but I think the phrase ‘cracking a fat’ is a WOZie phrase…
#39, Nilk,
“I’d like to see some of our aussie muslims’ take on this.”
I pray you mean on their next trip to the middle east, elsewise we may see the first (mainland) Australian genocide. ‘Cause your average skippy simply wont stand for that shit. (And the ones I’m talking about know how to skin and gut a mammal in less than 5 minutes…)
#55, Salty,
Well, now, since the women and children are so fired up to become martyrs, why hesitate killing the “human shields” who are protecting murderers?
Umm, ahh, disproportionate force?
Oh, who am I kidding? – “Kill them all, God will know his own” – Pope Innocent III.Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 24 at 12:35 PM • permalink
‘I don’t want anything, only to die a martyr.’ That’s what she said.
‘And I hope your kids do the same things to you when you’re my age! Then you’ll know suffering! Could it kill you to call your mother now and then, Mister Big-Shot Freedom Fighter? Well, I can see nobody here cares about me anymore; might as well strap on some Semtex and blow my self up for all you care!”
“Sure, Mom, sure; any meatloaf left in the fridge?”
- So here’s my Big Theological Question for the day: does she get 72 virgins, or does she get to be one of some guy’s 72 virgins?
Um, after a suitably miraculous restoration, that is.
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 11 24 at 03:03 PM • permalink
- #82 I was thinking more along the lines of how over AussieMuslim friends might view this occurrence.
Alas, careful perusal shows that this dreadful waste of a grandmother (no, not being ironic or sarcastic) is not worth even linking to.
There are other, far more heinous abominations to report on.
*nb I’m finding it really dificult to get my head around how these people (and I’m using the word loosely) can profess respect for the elderly, the women, life in general and then happily send a grandmother to blow herself up. They don’t seem too fussed that she didn’t take anyone with her, which to me emphasises that they really do worship death.
Why on earth would someone willingly choose to convert to this? If your life is so damned dreadful in CrusaderWorld(tm) then drop me an email and I’ll pop some rusty razor blades in the post for you.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 11 24 at 04:30 PM • permalink
- The Laft and their associates in the souks of rammallah are so innovative don’t you think?
What a marvellous solution to the problem of paying out pensions to those old age pensioners from the Baby boom.
Why import victim cultures to work to replace the Taxes collected for Senior citizens, that have been pilfered by successive governments ?
Senior Citizen suicide bombers are the Answer are they not? And what a glorious way to go! no more sitting around in old people’s home waiting to die , as your relatives froth at the mouth at collecting what inheritance the state has not already stolen from you.
- Yeah, cuckoo, when I die I want to go quietly in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not panicked and screaming, like the passengers in his car.Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 11 24 at 06:02 PM • permalink
So here’s my Big Theological Question for the day: does she get 72 virgins, or does she get to be one of some guy’s 72 virgins?
As I understand it, she gets to vouch for 20 others to get them into paradise. Given the 50+ children, grandchildren, and in-laws, that’s gonna cause some fights to break out.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 11 24 at 06:06 PM • permalink
- A free “commuter” newspaper in Toronto today had her name as “Fatma”, which sounds a bit more likely than Fatima. (Unless it’s one of those multiple-spellings-used variations that abound so in rendering Arab names into English.)Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 24 at 07:32 PM • permalink
- One less.Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 24 at 08:14 PM • permalink
- #75 Kae,
Unfortunately she is inelligible for the Darwin Award. She has aready bred and thus her death does not contribute to human evolution. Drat!!
Posted by Lloyd Flack on 2006 11 24 at 09:51 PM • permalink
- #85, Nilk, Ok that makes a whole lot more sense…Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 24 at 11:11 PM • permalink
- #93 TouchingPosted by Margos Maid on 2006 11 25 at 03:19 AM • permalink
- I found a thread on this at MV here. No comments yet.Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 11 25 at 04:09 AM • permalink
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