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The claim: “[Larvatus Prodeo] now has between 3500 and 5100 unique visitors a day.”
The actual stats: Larvatus Prodeo has between 1400 and 3400 visits a day.
- Hey now, this is the Left were talking about here: if they feel like they’re getting 5,000 hits a day, then they must be.Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 21 at 02:11 AM • permalink
- If Lancet-style extrapolation could only muster 5,000, small wonder LP dumped them.Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 21 at 02:24 AM • permalink
- Well a least the unique visitor claim is true.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 21 at 02:25 AM • permalink
- ’Unique visitor’ – visit once, never to return.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 21 at 02:27 AM • permalink
- Maybe they’re getting their figures from Malcolm “Mathboy” MacKerras, or Reliable Roy Morgan.
I reckon they’re stats would go through the roof if they renamed it Lavatory Rodeo though, especially from judicial and House of Lords servers.
- When you add up some of the multiple personalities and sock puppets hanging around.
They probably included spam as well.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 21 at 02:48 AM • permalink
- Going to LP generally means that your IQ measureably falls through exposure to the rampant idiocy and general sucktitude prevalent there. This is a proven fact, clearly documented in the footnotes of Algore’s next book, if he remembers to include them when he bothers sendint it to the publishers.
I know, he told me so. Hey, it must be true, Algore said it!
Happily, the condition is temporary, but repeated and prolonged visits can be hazardous to your mental health through simple accumulation.
Short-term exposure can be treated by visiting more intelligent blogs. This tends to wash out the shit and nonsense, unless your mind has been closed by over-exposure.
Don’t say that you weren’t warned! 😀Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 21 at 03:08 AM • permalink
- If you must damage your brain. Substance abuse is far more rewarding than engagement with lefties.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 21 at 03:50 AM • permalink
- Amazing. An article on blogs in WankleyMagazine manages to completely ignore that popular right-wing blogs in order to glorify left-wing blogs with few readers. Who could have predicted this?
WankleyMag is an official organ of the Australian Journalists’ and Clowns’ Union (not as weird as you may think—when the Australian Journalists’ Association became the Media and Arts Alliance, it accepted circus clowns into its fold).
Remember this the next time you see MSMers patting themselves on the back for receiving the annual Wankley Award from their mates. Yes, they actually give each other prizes for being totally useless.Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 02 21 at 04:35 AM • permalink
- WankleyMag is an official organ of the Australian Journalists’ and Clowns’ Union
#17, that explains the article’s display of the rigorous fact checking for which journalists are famous.Posted by ArtVandelay on 2007 02 21 at 05:22 AM • permalink
- #5 I think you’ve found out how they “boost” their numbers. They’re counting their one-time visitors as two-hit visits: their first and their last.Posted by FAM Texas Bob on 2007 02 21 at 06:03 AM • permalink
- The Walkley mag, which I get, is just the ABC in print. It also has rather a lot of articles in which journalists boast about their brilliance – often doing things that were once accepted as basic journalism. It’s a trade that has gone the same way as art. Less emphasis on ability and language, more emphasis on self-promotion and self-analysis. You all know the stuff: “I found that writing about the Tibetan hill people was a journey of self-discovery and enlightenment. It made me realise just how much John Howard is destroying my own country.”
I have an extensive list of people who will up against the wall when the revolution comes. Many are journalists.
- You’ve taken the hits out of context.
Larvatus Prodeo actually work on a 36 hour day. If you have that many hours in the day, the hit count works out about right.
Shame on you for taking them out of context.Posted by mr creosote on 2007 02 21 at 08:14 AM • permalink
- Tim: Sitemeter is notoriously unreliable, especially if it’s not installed exactly right. It routinely underestimates blogs who don’t get it perfectly put into every single template correctly.
I’ve used three different tracking systems and Sitemeter was always wildly lower than any of the others.Posted by Dean Esmay on 2007 02 21 at 08:23 AM • permalink
- Dean is quite right.
I’m only responding to this post to put my position on the record. The stats which I quoted in the interview with Trevor for Walkley are drawn from our host’s stats package. As Tim knows, because I pointed that out to him on a thread where he commented on this issue at LP yesterday. I am more than happy to email anyone who’s genuinely interested the host’s stats on which the claim is based. They’re the basis on which we’re charged for the gigabytes served. I’ve had previous experience working on another online publication where I was in a position to compare stats generated by different counters – Google Analytics, sitemeter, Nielsen (the standard for advertising on Australian online sites) and their host’s stats. There were significant discrepancies of up to 45% between the lowest and the highest count.
If Tim is serious about this, I invite him to take it up with Trevor as the author of the article, and the editors of the Walkley mag and I’ll be more than pleased to give them password access to the server stats.
Incidentally, the PR firm for which Trevor works is Jackson Wells Morris, as in Howard’s former advisor and confidante Grahame Morris, though he’s not with the firm anymore. If you have a look at the firm’s webpage, and the list of partners and staff, you’d be drawing a very long bow indeed to conclude that Trevor is some sort of lefty shill. He’s a very senior figure in the PR industry and well respected in the corporate world. And appropriately so.
I don’t intend to participate further in this thread, but I want to put my position on the record.Posted by mark_bahnisch on 2007 02 21 at 08:48 AM • permalink
- “I don’t intend to participate further in this thread,”-Mark Bahnisch
That’s a pity but given the lack of editorial control you have over this blog understandable.
“Here are the server’s site stats for this month”
I think Spam,bots and trackbacks are included in server stats. And Site meter filters out most of them.
A relatively less networked blog can expect Spam in the hundreds daily.
For 5100 unique visitors you don’t have many thread participants.Posted by armageddon on 2007 02 21 at 10:19 AM • permalink
- I like how Mark Bahnisch uses the appeal to authority, attempting to give LP, a hardcore leftie web site, a certain measure of credibility by linking LP site stats to the Prime Minister of Australia.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 21 at 10:36 AM • permalink
- The thread to which Mark refers is here. Note that even the bloated counts he lists don’t measure unique visitors, but visits; important difference. Note also that Mark misunderstands sitemeter’s most elemental functions, such as its seven-day readership average, and that his co-blogger Kim is dense as a pulsar.
- Nope, thanks though, I’m betting on the rodent this time. Rudd won’t get over the line.Posted by mark_bahnisch on 2007 02 21 at 12:11 PM • permalink
- #24 Dean
Which other systems did you use?Posted by pommygranate on 2007 02 21 at 09:06 PM • permalink
- “Why is that every time I see that name Larvatus Prodeo, I always think of bugs, and old, broken cocoons with bits of leaves and grass stuck to them?”
Yeah, it makes me think of leftists too.Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 21 at 11:51 PM • permalink
- ’The claim: “[Larvatus Prodeo] now has between 3500 and 5100 unique visitors a day.” The actual stats: Larvatus Prodeo has between 1400 and 3400 visits a day.’
You’re not allowing for the numerous visitors suffering from mulitple personality disorder…not to mention every other mental illness known to man and God.Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 21 at 11:54 PM • permalink
- Perhaps they intended to get between 3500 and 5100 unique visitors a day. On Planet Left, as you know, results are secondary to intent.Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 22 at 12:14 AM • permalink
- Sorry Mark, armageddon is right: if you used your server log, then you vastly overestimated the number of visitors, since this includes all spiders; and there are hundreds of spiders. The guys at webmasterworld have an active forum on counting spider hits on websites. If you count server logs, you’re counting spiders, and not just every time google or yahoo or msn index your page (although this will be a non-trivial count for a big site), you’re including every search engine, every archiving service, spam spiders (they search websites for email addresses to include in spam lists), university doctoral projects on web spidering, experimental spiders from google labs, adsense scrapers, copyright checking algorithms, and many others…
I’d stick with sitemeter. Yes, it probably does miss a small proportion of visitors with unusual browser configurations, but on the whole, it’s a pretty accurate measure of legitimate, human visitors.
Nice try, though.Posted by daddy dave on 2007 02 22 at 01:03 AM • permalink
It routinely underestimates blogs who don’t get it perfectly put into every single template correctly
so what you’re saying is that if you install it wrong it doesn’t work properly.
okay….Posted by daddy dave on 2007 02 22 at 01:09 AM • permalink
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