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Anti-Zionist Antony Loewenstein on Jewish comedian Austen Tayshus, whom he recently debated:
Jews are often their own worst enemies. It also might help if Tayshus didn’t look so much like those awful caricatures we know from the 1930s!
(Links added.) Loewenstein bravely avoided making this observation when debating his Evil Big Jew Nose opponent; a pity, since it might have resulted in some entertaining television:
LOEWENSTEIN: “You look like those Jews in 1930s Nazi propaganda.”
TAYSHUS: “What did you just say?”
LOEWENSTEIN: “I said, you look like those Jews in …”
VOICEOVER, as the screen goes blank: “SBS regrets that tonight’s episode of ‘Speaking in Tongues’ has been cancelled due to the fatal beating of Antony Loewenstein, currently in progress. We now present a repeat of the popular Syrian documentary ‘George W. Bush: Satan’s Jew-Baby Oil Whore’”.
Is the Australian Jewish community a very small or quiet one, or is it outside the public mainstream? I can’t imagine a public persona like this Anthony Loewenstein doing his “hysterically self-hating Jew acting out” routine and going similarly unchallenged in the United States.
Posted by MarcBoston on 2006 01 18 at 02:43 PM • permalink
George W. Bush: Satan’s Jew-Baby Oil Whore? Didn’t that win a Golden Globe the other day?
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 01 18 at 03:15 PM • permalink
That was a very strange debate.
The dominant message from Tayshus seemed to be that Australia is an occupied country and that AL should be concentrating on that.
So whatever you think of AL, Tayshus’s argument was quite unhelpful and centred on viewing indigenous people as victims.
Posted by Major Anya on 2006 01 18 at 03:16 PM • permalink
The ugly bigotry of the mainstream Jewish community? Is this another Australian national treasure?
Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 01 18 at 03:21 PM • permalink
It might also help if Antoine didn’t look so much like a caricature of a yeti (check his picture, look at that tufted cone-head; the guy ought to be munching lichens off a rock in Tibet somewhere). Tayshus, on the other hand, going strictly by the linked photo, looks like Bruce Willis , home from a camping trip. I don’t see any parallel with “those awful caricatures from the 1930’s” at all. A very weird observation from a very weird man.
Antony should apply for a job as Jordanian border guard. I think he’d like it.
Posted by SoCalJustice on 2006 01 18 at 03:34 PM • permalink
8: Truly, LOL! I was semi-relieved to see that the Jordanians were concerned with the possibility of terrorist attacks AGAINST Jews in Jordan; at first, on seeing the title of the article, I was wondering, “What? The Jordanians are afraid the Jews are going to pop open the Ark of the Covenant or something, turn everybody into fleshy goo?”
I say “semi-relieved”, incidentally, because it’s sad that conditions are still such in that part of the world that being an obviously religious Jew is tantamount to wearing a bulls-eye on your shirt.
Just think of the PC uproar if Antony Loewenstein said:
“It also might help if Martin Luther King didn’t look so much like those awful caricatures of blacks we know from the 1930s!”
Posted by perfectsense on 2006 01 18 at 03:56 PM • permalink
So the Jews in 30s Nazi propaganda also looked like Graham Parker or Don Henley?
By the way, this is apropos of almost nothing, but speaking of Martin Luther King Jr. and awful caricatures of blacks in the 1930s, at the premiere of Gone With the Wind in Atlanta in 1939, Martin Luther King Sr. and his church choir performed as part of the pre-show. And guess what future civil rights leader was dressed up in sharecropper costume and pretended to fish while his dad’s choir sang? I’ve always thought there must be a photo of this somewhere, but it seems to have been suppressed.
The wife-beater who was interviewed on the same show was more convincing than Top Gun Lowenstein
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 01 18 at 05:03 PM • permalink
Loewenstein should be more concerned with his own phiz—he looks oddly and disturbingly like Yasser Arafat in the pic on his blog.
Posted by VegemiteLovinSeppo on 2006 01 18 at 05:34 PM • permalink
“My debating opponent, “comedian” Austen Tayshus, preferred the tactics of bullying and arrogance. Tayshus served a useful purpose in exemplifying the ugly bigotry of the mainstream Jewish community.”
If you dont agree with me, you are an arroganr bully and a bigot. The classic counter argument of the lefty brigade.
Posted by LaVallette on 2006 01 18 at 06:27 PM • permalink
#5 – I thought that Tayshus was bringing up the aboriginal people because it exposed a potentially hypocritical stance by Antony, being that while he is opposed to Israel being an ‘occupying power’ he seems to have no trouble doing the same thing himself here in Australia. Not the greatest analogy but Antony had no real reply.
* Note that I don’t consider myself or Israel occupiers.
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2006 01 18 at 06:29 PM • permalink
I had the pleasure, a few years ago, of being present when Mr Tayshus wore a schooner of beer onstage for some of his comments about how we treat our indigenous friends. Seems the lovely people of Rooty Hill didn’t share his opinions.
I’d earlier tried to spark up a conversation with him backstage but he was just a rude, arrogant prick with no real sense of humour. His act was as funny as a burning orphanage too.
It’s hard to say which of them is more obnoxious. Probably Ant.
“funny as a burning orpahnage” is a line I will have to remeber.
I have a better memory of Austen Tayshus at a Kings Cross cafe in the early 90’s , Molly Meldrum walked in , complete with hat an excessively tight leather pants (and it was one of those 30 + degree sysdney nights as well), quick as a flash Mr Tayshus , in a booming stage voice asks “Um, Who put the Um in Meldrum”; cruel, unprovoked? Yes. Also very funny at the time.
O/T Teen denies lifesaver bashing The Austrlian, 19/1/06.
Just watched the Safran episode on podcast.
Tayshus was a right obnoxious git, even from the point of view of someone who agrees with what he says.
Posted by closeapproximation on 2006 01 18 at 09:26 PM • permalink
I could see Safran sniggering behind his hand when he set those two obnoxious dropkicks onto each other.
Someone should have called the RSPCA.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 01 18 at 10:08 PM • permalink
Is there any evidence of any sort of impulse filter between the back of Flavius Antonius’ assumed brain and his mouth?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 18 at 11:01 PM • permalink
I’d say Tayshus did a right-poor job (was it just me or did he claim the Western Wall was the holiest site in Judaism?); but every second he spoke was a second we didn’t have to listen to Antony’s libels. So good job!
But I’d have given good money to hear Tayshus list all the ‘crimes’ Israel is accused of, starting with poisioning the water, going through drinking blood and ending with stealing body-parts; and asking Antony how many of those he believes. Plus bonus marks if he’d asked how you can ‘occupy’ someone when they have had for over ten years near-complete (all, but no control over airspace or borders etc) self-government over 9X% of their population, runing their own schools, ‘elections’, banks, foreign-affairs, pogroms, etc.
- #22, 28
I once had the misfortune to be seated next to Mr. Tayshus in a restaurant – he was, beyond doubt, the most obnoxious, overbearing, noisy arsehole I’ve ever encountered in that situation. He was working up a woefully bad ‘rap’ song about Jacques Chirac – this was during the Pacific N-tests – and he seemed to think that everyone in the restaurant wanted to hear it, repeated ad infinitum, throughout the evening. And he wasn’t even drunk.
Morgan’s shnozz wasn’t just big, it was fairly disfigured. From what, I don’t know, but his photos were often retouched. It would definitely draw one’s attention.
Speaking of stereotypes, I was the perfect model of a 1930’s Irish drunk last weekend. B’geezuz, I may do it again this weekend.
And what does it say about Flavius’ opinion of his own side that he thinks they’ll remember those bigoted caricatures? I don’t think anybody under 30 in my RWDB family would recognize a Stepin Fetchit reference if they heard one…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 19 at 12:34 AM • permalink
Tayshus served a useful purpose in exemplifying the ugly bigotry of the mainstream Jewish community.
Note to Lowenstein: Austen Tayshus, is a comedian, and not an especially funny or popular one. He hasn’t been invited to perform at a Jewish gig in years. How an unpopular comic, or indeed any comic, “exemplifies” the mainstream Jewish community therefore, is beyond me. I mean many of us have a sense of humour, but I suspect, Lowenstein, the only things which have actually been demonstrated, are:
a) Your total lack of awareness (through voluntary self-removal) of anything the Jewish community besides your own hatred and paranoia of it, and
b) Your detachment from reality.
Despite these, feel free to enjoy passing yourself off as expert in these matters. Terribly brave of you.
Lowenstein is damned lucky (and the producers and audience unlucky) he wasn’t sitting next to Jackie Mason who had this and this to say. Hard hitting stuff too.
- Wish Id seen this one. Safran is good at letting people make dicks of themselves with a minimum of prodding by him. when it works well its good, when it doesnt it can be pretty ordinary. (apparently this one was?)
Saw a show with tashus a while back on SBS where he went to poland to look for relatives and confronted people living in what was his grandparents old place. They had it confiscated by the Nazis or something and tashus was yelling at the current occupants.
Came across as earnest but a complete dick.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 01 19 at 02:46 AM • permalink
A bit OT but the Israel/Palestine problem reminds me of those pub fights where each man is being restrained by his mates. Israel always strikes me as the one being held pretty firm while the mates holding back our Palestine pub brawler keep “accidentally” letting him go to have another shot.
I saw excerpts of the visit by Gutman to Poland on the Andrew Denton show. Gutman seems obsessed by the Holocaust to an almost unhealthy degree and has zero tact and restraint in how he conveys his grief over what happened to his family. Given his personality I wouldn’t want to have Cuckoo’s experience of being anywhere near him in a restaurant let alone next to him.
His act was as funny as a burning orphanage too.
Must have been to the Rod Quantock school of desperately un-funny stand-up.
Posted by walterplinge on 2006 01 19 at 03:53 AM • permalink
- The Age, p10 today (Thurs):
By Andra Jackson
January 19, 2006
Page 1 of 2MOHAMMAD Abujalhoul’s parents say he was six months old when, lying in his cot, he was kicked in the jaw by Israeli soldiers.
For most of his life, Mohammad could not open his mouth to talk or eat properly. At 16 he weighed 43 kilograms.
So, hearing the now 18-year-old talk and having him eat with them at the dinner table are new experiences for his family in the Gaza Strip.[url=http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/reshaping-young-lives-with-medical-miracles/2006/01/18/1137553651652.html]kicked[/url]I have the odd doubt about this account of how the baby got injured, which involves just the parents’ allegation. How exactly does a soldier kick a baby in a cot in the jaw? Is this how Israeli soldiers typically behave? (Although I am perfectly sympathetic to the baby, who got fixed up by Epworth Hospital, Melbourne in 2004).
Can anyone shed further light on this story?
You missed something critical. The six month old baby was kicked in the jaw by Israeli soldiers. Who knows? Probably a platoon of them. The kid may have been used as a soccerball in a match between Reserves and Regulars. One thing is for certain. Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran would have paid up big time for a story like that. $US10,000? $US25,000?
The Age has now published it so it must be true. I know these people have no concept of professionalism. But have they no shame? Is there a lie just too outrageous for The Age to publish when it comes to Israel?
Geoff, percypup, et al — Hey, if we eeeeeevil Americans can steal entire Russian lakes overnight (even with wronwright on the job), how hard can it be for a villainous Israeli soldier (who probably looks like some “awful caricature we remember from the 1930’s”) to leap into a crib amd kick a baby? I mean, those Pali cribs are built pretty solid…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 19 at 11:09 AM • permalink
(even with wronwright on the job)
Hey … where IS Wronwright anyway? He hasn’t shown his face around here since he blurted out the gushy truth about his adolescent fanboy crush on David Gates & Bread.
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Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 01 19 at 11:41 AM • permalink
#50 – not sure how to explain linking. It just kind of works. You copy the url you want to link, then hit “Link”. You paste it in, and then it asks you what you want to call it. You type in a name, and Bob’s yer uncle. That’s it, if I’m recalling correctly.
It will display your link as a big-ass string in the reply field, but when you preview, it will just show the name of the link in pretty red. Maybe that’s what’s throwing you off.
- Nobody nose the troubles I have seen …
#50 – the trick is you have to use ctrl-v to paste the link. Delightfully retro.
Then you have to type in the bit you want to appear in red, for people to click on, and go ok again.
If the link section ends up in the wrong place within your comment you can then cut and paste it within the comment block.
Good Luck!
- I just watched the whole episode which you can download here
http://www20.sbs.com.au/podcasting/media/SIT16Jan06.mp4You’ll need a new version of Quicktime or VLC to play it. ( http://www.videolan.org/ )As a Jew, it amazes me how it is only self-hating Jews like Lowenstein who start every second sentence with the phrase “As a Jew”. The rest of us don’t.
I’m thinking of converting to Islam, just so I can start sentences with “as a Muslim”…
#57 This is a whole industry and the Abominable Ant is on the gravy train. The latest wave of antisemitism that infests the universities and the media is too sophisticated to be caught saying in public half the stuff that Light Fly-weight Loewenstein comes out with. Can you imagine the outcry if some typical SMH, Canberra Times, ABC, MUP or Macquarie Uni type came out and actually said something like Addlebrained Antony’s appalling nazi caricature slur? In the same breathe as talking about “Jews being their own worst enemy”?
They don’t have to. Jew and/or Israel haters usually just have to quote somebody like Loathsome Loewy who will say or write the most odious stuff imaginable while pointing insistently at a Jewish mother. Poor woman.
In return the Lap-dog Loewensteins of this world are thrown a bone or two in the form of say a publishing contract or academic committee appointment, something they could never achieve on the merits. Let’s face it. Loewenstein can’t even write.
But he sure knows which side his bread is buttered on. There are plenty of these guys around but there is nothing new about them.
Loewenstein is a kapo.
Austen Tayshus is a horrible, common little man. But Antony Loewenstein was an odd choice for the anti-Israel party, especially in a comedy show.
I just visited his site where there is a fascinating discussion of what right he has to speak as “a Jew.”
Some very valid points are made as to why he should be able to exploit his “jewishness” when he really isn’t one. “a Jew”
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I suppose they could always show the tape of the beating on pay per view…