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Last updated on August 6th, 2017 at 05:58 am

• The University of Chicago’s David Solomon crunches the numbers on Earth Hour.

• Reader KP emails: “If I found my lawyer was writing stuff like ‘Better roll over soon, kitten, or you’ll burn your little pink nose’ as captions of his cat pictures, I’d feel more than a little weirded out.”

• Be warned: Tim Tams are not Halal.

Posted by Tim B. on 04/17/2007 at 11:22 AM
    1. Tim Blairs are not Halal either.

      Posted by Justin on 2007 04 17 at 11:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. My opinion of Tim Tams has just gone up considerably… a feat I didn’t think possible.

      It’s not just me who finds a supposedly successful barrister blogging about his cat weird, is it?

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 04 17 at 11:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. OT

      St. Edwards Uni. Austin, Texas, under total lockdown, bomb threats.

      Exactly or almost what Dave S. mentioned yesterday…copy cat idiots.

      VA. Tech also had bomb threats a few days prior to the carnage.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 04 17 at 11:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. #2

      What about unsuccessful barristers like Jeremy Sears? (please sue me!)

      I think if you dig deep enough you will find that Lawyers own more cats than other professions.  Something to do with cats being the handmaidens of Lucifer.

      Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2007 04 17 at 11:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. Tim Tams are not Halal

      Oh my. I hope this doesn’t affect the dear 1.618. We love you, 1.618.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 04 17 at 11:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. #4 Joe, you may very well have a point. If I didn’t know better, I’d say that my cat is Lucifer… but we all know that Lucifer is in the White House, trying to kill us all or some such garbage.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 04 17 at 11:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. If I were in charge of Tim Tams, I’d make ‘em with GUARANTEED PURE LARD.

      Posted by ErnieG on 2007 04 17 at 11:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Barnabas, over at Muslim Village, obviously likes his Tim Tams and, as a consequence, is now najis, and therefore destined for Allah’s fiery doom.

      Posted by Mike_W on 2007 04 17 at 12:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. Nice work by Solomon.  Funny thing is that you can’t find a similarly lucid explanation of Goebbel’s Warmening statistics like the infamous Hockey Stick graph.

      Posted by deadman on 2007 04 17 at 12:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. One of the Tim Tam thread commenters observes sagely:

      Could you please provide us with source and reference? As far too many times in the past, Muslims have spread so-called “food facts” amongst the community, only later to find out that it was nothing but falsehood… Not that I am doubting you but you know how chinese whispers is.

      Yes, yes we do.

      Posted by C.L. on 2007 04 17 at 12:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. #9 You mean like this, deadman?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 04 17 at 01:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Could you please find out the halal status of Arnott’s Mint Slices please Tim?

      Being a late night insomniac who munches on these while posting , if these are halal I will change to Tim Tams post haste

      Anything halal I’ve heard sends people to violence

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 04 17 at 01:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Would it be so wrong of me to start a rumor that the Jooooooos have tainted all the Muslims food in the Mideast (with pork, no less), and that there won’t be any untainted food for a month or two?

      Yeah, probably it would be wrong, so I’m not going to say Pssst, Muslims, the Jews have tainted all your food with pork.  Don’t eat the food—for at least a month.

      Posted by rbj1 on 2007 04 17 at 01:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. Excellent link, Andy. Bookmarked.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 04 17 at 01:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hey now. I’m a successful office flunky (ahem) and I blog about my cats all the time. Of course, my cats are fascinating. Sears’ kitten is merely cute.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 04 17 at 01:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. You’re welcome, Dave. I got it from the Small Dead Animals blog (although via a guest poster and not Kate).

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 04 17 at 01:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. ‘Earth Hour’-sized drops in electricity consumption actually occur on average every four days. In terms of reducing electricity consumption, ‘Earth Hour’ was, statistically speaking, a failure.*

      Hah!  Told you so!

      Well, erm, I didn’t so much tell as ask.  But anyway!

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 04 17 at 02:41 PM • permalink

 

    1. That was a good link, andycanuck.

      Hey, look here (you have to scroll down a little) – even the SMH has a short piece on the fluorescent light bulb myth.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 17 at 04:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Andrea, your cat looks possessed by the Yellow Feline God of Pure Evil 🙂

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 17 at 04:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. #12 Aussiemagpie, I blogged on the Tim Tams the other day (shameless linkwhore alert) and I phoned Arnotts to ask them the status of TimTams after reading MV.

      Basically, none of their bikkies are listed as halal, haraam, kosher.

      So go for the Mint Slices.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 17 at 05:22 PM • permalink

 

    1. I don’t have a problem with Jeremy’s cat posts. In fact, his love for his pussy cat leads me to believe that within in him is a small spark of redeemable humanity. I don’t pick on him for this reason.

      Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 04 17 at 05:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. Memo to David Solomon:

      Thanks for your excellent professional analysis.  From your report,”The effect of this was reported as being a drop in electricity use in the Central Business District of 10.2%, according to an analysis by Energy Australia, that purported to control for time-of-day, weather, and month effects.”

      And yes this is what was said by EnergyAustralia.  However, you may care to know that EnergyAustralia is a State government owned enterprise and for years has become a vehicle for government nepotism.  It is filled at all levels with political appointees who provide craven subservience to the political mantra and ideology of NSW Labor, i.e., the Left.  It is to be expected that the organisation would make the statements it made through selective data analysis or whatever method required to achieve the required results and I wouldn’t be surprised if their report had been written the previous day.

      Please be careful if you dare to visit Sydney at any time from now on because you must realise you are a marked man.  Rumour has it that a village ducking stool is being prepared and failing that a bonfire in Hyde park.

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 17 at 05:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Jeremy looks like Alfred E Newmon but hard to tell, too blurry.

      Posted by Lonetown on 2007 04 17 at 05:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Some people avoid buying anything marked “Halal” or even imported from aggessive nations.

      Posted by Pericles on 2007 04 17 at 06:04 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim Tams, on the other hand, are very very kosher.

      Posted by geoff on 2007 04 17 at 06:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. El-cid, (smiles)(waves, and more waves)I’d love to send you a pack EL-cid!!

      Ahhhh, now I know why I nicknamed our hunky Tim Blair as Tim Tam.

      He’s not Halal, he delicious, you get three wishes and you can share him around at dinner parties. Tim Tam, you’re delicious!

      Arnotts, please send some Tim Tams (love potion ones) to Tim B’s office with love from 1.618. xxxx

      Margos, you can have the tia Maria ones….(for the Blair Hawaiian conference)

      oh, today’s art work is..

      ;;;;..;..;..;;::..  …. .
      “Tim Tam crumbs” by 1.618
      For Sale $3.90

      Please cut and paste and send the cheque to Andrea a admin … ta……

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 04 17 at 06:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. p.s. Did you know that Tim Tams are kosher?

      Ah, the puffy Pirate with the navy jacket? Now I know why he’s kosher!

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 04 17 at 06:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. According to the media coverage only 60,000 households took part in Earth Hour representing only 4% of the population of Sydney, as I pointed out at the time. 2.2 million people seems a huge stretch.

      I think that the survey is a bit bogus. People are going to be inclined to answer that they did take part in spite of doing absolutely nothing or, like me, turning on all of the lights in the house for an hour.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 04 17 at 07:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. HALAL IS FOR EVERYONE!

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 17 at 07:36 PM • permalink

 

 

    1. I understand the desire to bore the people around me to death with photos and endless trivialities about my two kittens.

      But I figure I’ve spent enough time feigning interest in others’ baby photos that now they owe me the same courtesy.

      Don’t judge me because I’m a single, childless woman with more than one cat.  It’s a lifestyle choice.

      Posted by Jodie73 on 2007 04 17 at 08:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. No matter how much feigned indignity and how many veiled threats by the Fairfax editors, nothing will disguise the fact that Earth Hour was a dismal failure. It saved nothing. The best thing to come out of Earth Hour was the Fairfax editors resorting to sham photos to hide the fact that their papers have no influence.

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 04 17 at 08:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #30 – dingdingding’s link – see, that’s how you insert links. It’s not hard.

      And dingdingding, you are one sick puppy.

      Posted by David Morgan on 2007 04 17 at 08:41 PM • permalink

 

    1. #30 Send that one to Mr Lefty!

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 17 at 08:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. ‘Better roll over soon, kitten, or you’ll burn your little pink nose’

      Great pick up line for the beach, right there!

      Can someone report back how it works?

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 17 at 08:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. Kitty in the blender! LOL! Reminds me of the Hal & Pace skit of the kitten and the microwave.

      “It would be cruel and horrible to microwave this kitten on national telly…so here’s one we prepared earlier.”

      British phone lines were apparently jammed that night with protest calls to the station.

      Posted by Justin on 2007 04 17 at 09:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. At least cats aren’t totally useless, even though they seem to be too dumb or lazy to bother much about Hezbollah rocket attacks.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 17 at 09:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. David Solomon wrote ”… I find that there is little evidence that Earth Hour caused a statistically significant decrease in electricity consumption, and that the popularly reported figures appear to greatly exaggerate the effect of the exercise.

      “Greatly exaggerate” is an understatement.  “Grossly exaggerate” would be more like it.

      I must also disagree with the Herald’s idea that 51 per cent of Sydneysiders participated in Earth Hour.  We live in Sydney’s inner west where most residents are suckers for this sort of thing, and I don’t know anyone – except for my immediate (and rabid Green) neighbours – who participated.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 04 17 at 09:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. Wait—cats being the handmaidens of Satan is under debate? I thought that was an established fact!

      OT but amusing—one of the latest “Doctor Who” episodes had a throwaway line about gerbil warmening. The Doctor is leading his new companion through the streets in 1599, telling her how like it is to modern London. Shoveling up horse dung? “Recycling.” Drunks around a barrel? “Water-cooler chat.” Street-corner preacher ranting about fire from the sky? “Global warming.”

      ‘Course, given that the Doctor’s a fictional genius, I think he’s got more credibility than any of the Goreites.

      Posted by Tungsten Monk on 2007 04 17 at 09:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. People participating in public events sponsored by government come across like three-year-olds at a kindergarten picnic.

      Earth Hour was Playschool for grown-up idiots who can’t think for themselves and enjoy having a Nanny State to chase away the bogeyman.

      Posted by ilibcc on 2007 04 17 at 09:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Wait—cats being the handmaidens of Satan is under debate? I thought that was an established fact!
      It is, but Julia Gillard’s got her application in…

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 17 at 09:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. ABC 612 in Brisbane this morning had Bob Carr on touting some carbon trade/tax scam he’s involved in, no doubt eager to bring his managerial acumen to the national and international stage, and fuck up royally the economies of both as he so admirably managed during his tenure as Premier of NSW. Not once was the theory of human-induced climate change and the dire effects therof questioned by the on-air airhead- the blind acceptace on faith of this calamity being a given in the studios of the national broadcaster. Odd that such a coven of atheists and cynics swallow this flimflam holus bolus- I’d like to work out how to get an angle on this, it’s the greatest con since Michael Jacksons paternity.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 17 at 09:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. BTW- when Madonna King asked Cadaver Boy how soon governments should act to impose this usery on business and individuals, Carr replied “straight away- you’ve seen Al Gores movie!” And people voted this cretin into power how many times? FFS.

      Bob’s really brilliant idea is that national quotas for carbon be issued by some organisation like the UN (where the Bobster’s no doubt looking for a gig), and when the quota is exceeded a penalty is applied- his really really brilliant idea is that this could be quantified down to the household level, with levies for over-use extorted under legislative fiat. I’m sure this plan will be fiercely resisted by government, given their previous rejections of new means to thieve revenue and control populations too stupid to run their own lives, what with their constant poking tongues into light sockets, throwing babies in the compost tumbler and using the cat to clear blocked drains.

      Bob first mooted this proposal at a business conference, and for some reason the atendees didn’t set him on fire and hurl him out the window into Pitt Street.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 17 at 10:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. Well this has rooted my Dervish Degustation menu. Can’t serve Tim Tams, water melons, bananas or flour. And the wine list has been harder to organise than a Fiat full of Italian war heroes.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 17 at 10:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. I have said it before and will say it again, GW is the UN’s plug for a tax of their own.
      At the moment they rely on “donors” and crap on the free world, how accountable do you think theyd be with a endless stream of cash coming in?
      The UN is pushing GW as hard as it can as if they can get the concept of a global tax “for the common good” in place it will be the thin end of the wedge.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 17 at 10:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. Someone’s got to pay for all those unmarked black helicopters, fast reaction peacekeepers and effective arms control, aid distribution and enforcement of good governance.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 17 at 10:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. Actually, shouldn’t they be called “piecekeepers”, as they all get to keep a piece of the action.

      Myself included- a 9 month pissup in Cambodia paid me six figures in US doleros in the late ‘80s, untaxed. One of those every two years and I’d be farting through silk.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 17 at 10:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. ^ #11, must must read, send to all your friends!

      Posted by HC44 on 2007 04 17 at 10:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. #35 boxofmatches

      Sorry, no can do. I keep hoping they’ll roll the other way.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 17 at 10:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. So, can Muslims have cough syrup or the variety of minor medicines that have some alcohol in them?

      May they use isocol on their skin?

      Perhaps, I should ask an imam about which of a million ways is my life regulated.

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 17 at 10:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. The only thing weirder than Muslims debating the minutiae of Islamic law on those websites (of which the alcohol content of Tim Tams is a classic), is the uncompromising letter-of-the-law type of response they usually get from their imams.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 17 at 10:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. #42, 43, & 45

      They (yep, the all-encompassing they) are slowly working to replace “real” money with carbon money.  I think you’ll see carbon “credits” and carbon trading pushed further and further in the future.  There is also a movement afoot in NZ to create a Kyoto scheme down to the household level.  Each household would be allotted a certain threshold of carbon.  If you walk to work, etc. you can trade your excess carbon to you’re gas-guzzling neighbor.  So far, no discussion of punishment for using more than you’re allotted, but it will come.  If this scheme is pushed there will eventually be carbon police.

      With that fun thought out of the way, I’m going to be spending 6 months in Sydney at UNSW starting (probably) in July.  Anyone have any recommendations for things I absolutely must do, or avoid?  Please bear in mind that I’m living on a student’s budget 🙂

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 17 at 11:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. Okay, somewhat ot, but on channel 9 as I type, the girls on The Catchup are talking about the shooting.

      Libby Gorr is opening her mouth to change feet, as ever, and there is much blathering about the “american Psyche”.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 17 at 11:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. Libby “who ate all the pie” Gorr shits me. Possibly Australias most unfunny comedian, and thats saying a lot.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 17 at 11:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. SEgment finished, but I cannot believe such air-headed, mouth-breathing frogshit!

      Out of the four panellists (this must be the poor-man’s version of The View), the one woman who made any sort of sense pointed out Britain’s anti-gun laws, and the point that homicides have risen over 40% in several years.

      Comment from panellists? Oh, we’re lucky we have a different culture. (paraphrased).

      Lisa (the sensible one) rightly pointed out that the right to bear arms in America arose out of the War for Independence against England, although she doesn’t quite get the concept of an ‘armed militia’. I don’t have the link available, but Penn and Teller do a great Bullshit episode on that piece of the Constitution.

      According to Libby, the American psyche is more important than the Constitution and from her American History, the ‘gun culture’ actually developed from the experiences at the Alamo.

      Go figure.

      Who the hell put this silly tosser on the television? I reckon we’d be better off with Days of Our Lives. Get a shitload more sense.

      And as for Libby being such a smart commentator on all things cultural, I have never been able to take her seriously after reading Lunch of Blood by Antonella Gambotto.

      She came across as a spoiled brat, and she still comes across that way.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 17 at 11:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. The American Psyche of a Korean Immigrant? hmm… well I guess he spent a little under half his life in America, so would that be the half-American psyche? And would it make him a half-American psycho?

      As for “gun control”… it never ceases to amaze me that they either can’t read the US constitution, or simply don’t care whether they adhere to it or not. Then again, maybe they’ve been taking lessons from the US Supreme Court, who seem to view the second amendment as merely an inconvenient suggestion…

      Posted by Nicholas on 2007 04 17 at 11:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. I thought Indian Call Centres were pushy… Afghani telemarketers must be vicious.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 17 at 11:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #9, #17, #22, thanks for the support!

      Dave.

      Posted by Behemoth on 2007 04 17 at 11:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. Alcohol in the Tim Tams:  That would explain a lot…

      Posted by Big Jim on 2007 04 18 at 12:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh dear, there’s going to be a boycott of Tim Tams by the muslims. That’s really going to hurt Arnotts.

      Some of these things which are haram are ridiculous; wearing stuff with alcohol? Eating stuff cooked with alcohol – the alcohol isn’t consumed in these cases. Shame the energy isn’t put into real subjects for tabus, like incest, rape, murder, etc.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 12:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Shame the energy isn’t put into real subjects for tabus, like incest, rape, murder, etc.

      These activities are haram, Kae, if performed when blotto.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 18 at 01:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. Or in a Tim Tam fuelled frenzy. Allah forbid the resultant running amok that’d result from a Tim Tam Slam– it’d likely be a Wham Bam Thank’ya Mam Tim Tam Slam of the Damned.

      BTW- did you know that running amok is basically the Islamic version of suicide by cop? One of my favourite tatty remnants of my more boisterous motorcycling days is a t-shirt emblazoned with the motto “What The Fuck, Run Amuck”.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 18 at 01:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. #61
      Habib
      Sorry, not sure where goatfucking beastiality comes in there, too – I didn’t mention this, but can you help clarify when that is tabu/haram? Is it only when you want to eat the goat?

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 01:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. #63

      You can eat the goat, Kae, but foreplay is not really considered necessary. Just tether it correctly and the rest takes care of itself.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 01:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #52
      Yep you’re onto it. have just been involved in a sort of “test” for carbon emissions trading. All the big industrials have tested the water with a “few million” to give the process a dry run and get a bit of green cred.

      The Europeans are driving it, but unfortunately the price per tonne has recently gone down a hole about as deep as frollicking’s at Kambalda.

      They’re all now waiting for some sort of program from the Feds and it will be all on.

      Major Australian legal and accounting firms have already set up divisions to cater for the trading bonanza and associated fees made from moving money about whilst miraculously creating fuck all. Think about it, it’s an art.

      As I have pointed out in other threads, the insurance “industry” is circling (the imagery is entirely appropriate) salivating at the thought of premiums for fuck all risk. I reckon when Billy Connolly sued God Billy should have won, by the way.

      What we are about to see is the greatest redistribution of wealth since the shearer who lived next door won lotto in 1984. He drank himself to death but it took him 15 years, by the way.

      What shits me off is that some appear to have forgotten the outrageous Y2K scam only 8 years ago. And as for those in the IT industry who say “yeah we did a good job didn’t we?” I say my fucken oath you did, thank you very little and put them aside in a pile next to those who now say “the hole in the ozone layer was fixed cause we banned cfc’s”.

      Here we go again.

      Fuck the poor, the mentally ill, the handicapped, bashed kids or any others that we should spend money on, we got a much bigger quest. To save the planet.

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 18 at 01:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. So, doing the goat is ok; eating the goat is ok; but doing it pissed isn’t?
      What’s their excuse then?

      Or does the Religion of Peace mean never having to say you’re sorry?

      It’s like the perpetual indignation.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 01:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. #52 Pickles

      Yeah, we gotta do something. It’s not like the earth is big enough and ugly enough to look after itself…

      And the charmed few will just stand there, hands out, collecting a shit load of money for bugger all.

      Major Australian legal and accounting firms have already set up divisions to cater for the trading bonanza and associated fees made from moving money about whilst miraculously creating fuck all. Think about it, it’s an art.

      It’s a bonanza!

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 01:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. From Geoff’s link :-
      And with Israelis being such perfectionists, there’s also instructions in Hebrew on how to eat them the Australian way – we call it the Tim Tam suck!” he said.

      Meaning? Do the Israelis suck the chocolate off the biscuit? How gross. No need to go to that trouble, just dip the bikkie in hot tea or coffee and when the choc starts to melt let it drip into your salivating mouth. If your too slow and it disintegrates into the tea just stir and you’ll have Tim Tam Tea.

      Posted by Spag_oz on 2007 04 18 at 01:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. The Tim-Tam suck:

      Bite a little bit of each end of the biscuit, the long bits at the side.

      Stick it into your beverage (tea, coffee, whatever), then suck it’s guts out.

      People tell me it’s yummy.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 01:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. sorry, the long bits should be kept as the sides.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 01:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #69 – Until I saw your name Kae, I thought 1.618 might have written that comment.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 02:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh, I think I need help then.

      No offence, 1.6!

      And you suck the beverage THROUGH the biscuit, you don’t just make the bikkie soggy and then suck.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 02:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. Actually, I’m home with a roaring headache, had it for 2 days.
      Maybe I’m just not feeling myself…

      my excuse and I’m sticking to it!

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 02:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Slightly O/T but such good news must be shared.My favorite Gitmo Graduate Mammy Habib today lost his appeal against a jury decision to throw out his defamation case against News Ltd.(he claimed that they had suggested he was a welfare bludger)Even better news is that the learned Appeal Judges decided that the Mamster would be up for the costs of the Appeal and that will really hurt as I don’t imagine that News Ltd. fronted up with anything other than the best legal representation money could buy.

      Posted by Lew on 2007 04 18 at 02:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. Excellent news, Lew.

      I noticed that Keysar Trad is suing Alan Jones for something – it was mentioned by Moni on Meejawatch.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 02:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. I noticed that Keysar Trad is suing Alan Jones for something – it was mentioned by Moni on Meejawatch.

      Why doesn’t Alan Jones not just response with I was taken out of context.  Case Dismissed!!

      Posted by Anthony_ on 2007 04 18 at 02:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ugggh that should be respond not response

      Posted by Anthony_ on 2007 04 18 at 02:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. #71 – I thought exactly the same.
      Lucky for kae that 1.6 isn’t the jealous type. Insanely possessive, yes. But never jealous.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 02:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. #65
      I’m hoping that if the US and Aus hold out against making carbon trading gov’t policy that this will always be a side business.  Not sure if that’s possible tho.  Sometimes I seriously wonder about the EU, those guys are straight up evil.

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 18 at 02:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. #63- I think you’ll find once the ovine object of adoration has been interfered with, it can’t be scoffed by members of your own family or clan, but can be gifted to a neighbouring tribe- if the interferer is carrying some manner of virulent STD, it then becomes the gift that keeps on giving.

      This fatwa comes straight from the knowledgable and venerable Ayatollah Khomeni, so you can be sure it’s kosher Helal.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 18 at 02:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. #42. Habib.
      Not to mention the few hundred acres he apparently purchased in the South Island of New Zealand, (If I am wrong, I will stand corrected) Apparently the property taxes and bureaucracy are not so savage in my old haunt, as they are in NSW.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 04 18 at 03:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. So if 57% of Sydney’s residents produced only a 2% decline in electricity useage, then congratulations to all those who deliberately turned on every light, every kettle, every TV, every aircon unit, every oven and every other eletricity using device in the house between 7:30 and 8:30.

      Nice work.

      Posted by pommygranate on 2007 04 18 at 03:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. OT:
      Caption contest: Rudder dancing with Kerri-Anne Kennel

      Suggestion:
      “Stop leaning to the Right, Kerri-Anne!”

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 03:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83 – “Kochie and I preferred Horizontal Folk Dancing”.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 03:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. #66
      eating the goat is ok

      Going down on a goat: what do they say about that?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 03:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. #85 – Not during Ramadan, lest ye swallow some and gain nourishment.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 03:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. #84
      Is that Koch in your hand or are you just happy to see me?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 03:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. Kerry-Anne Kenneley is an anagram of “old saggy freckled breasts”

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 18 at 03:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. O/T but the Poms are paying for poligamy in the UK now.

      Polygamous husbands settling in Britain with multiple wives can claim extra benefits for their “harems” even though bigamy is a crime in the UK, it has emerged.

      For some odd reason the last 1/4 of the article rabbits on about the mormons and eeeevil AmeriKKKans, despite the group involved being of largely muslim persuasion?
      Ani-Americanism is the new black.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 18 at 03:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. If you have a Tim Tam with a likeness of Mohammad on it, is it halal?

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 04 18 at 03:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83
      I did not knowingly lie with that woman …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 03:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. (Chomp)
      Dunno, but it tasted good anyway!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 03:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. Beaten by an egg!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 03:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. Scrambled for that one …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. #65 Pickles

      They’re all now waiting for some sort of program from the Feds and it will be all on.

      You’re right here, and I find it quite frightening that business isn’t starting to make huge waves against this Scam.  If we ever go down this path, as you say it will be a huge transfer in wealth with enormously adverse consequences for the people who are less well-off.

      What I can’t understand is that John Howard has allowed the thing to go as far as it has.  Now it may be a lip service / wedge politics job on the basis that we won’t implement a carbon trading scheme in isolation from the rest of the world, in which case it will never happen.  And it could be used as a means to get a nuclear power industry in Australia but it’s a risky strategy especially with all Labor state governments pushing their own scheme.  Then there’s the whole talkfest behind this madness that seems to be gathering a momentum of its own.  All very dangerous.

      Still I’m doing my bit.  With my consulting business next month I’ll be meeting with some senior execs in the resources industry and quietly asking what the f is going on, also pointing out the obvious.  I think I’ll be asking for Chathan House Rules and there could be some fun discussions. We’ll see…

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 18 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Too many haram Tim Tam’s make you fatwa.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 03:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. Infidel, I don’t really like Tim Tams that much.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 03:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’d eat a vegetarian meal for the honour of a fatwa.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 03:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. #69 kae: The Tim-Tam suck:

      Bite a little bit of each end of the biscuit, the long bits at the side.

      Stick it into your beverage (tea, coffee, whatever), then suck it’s guts out.

      People tell me it’s yummy.

      Wooooooah Nelly! Geez kae, I need a cold shower after that one! And I also didn’t miss the fact you posted this little bit of erotic imagery in #69.

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 04 18 at 03:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Comment 69?

      <EG>

      I planned it that way.

      lol.

      ***

      That’s prolly why the biscuit instructions weren’t quoted here… or not really on the packet?

      Look here, comprehensive instructions and a picture…

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 04:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. Three women are eating icecreams: one is licking hers, one is sucking hers and one is biting hers: which one is married?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 04:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. Anyway, let’s hope Tim can give us something a little less risque to work with next thread…

      naaaaaaah, just kidding.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 04:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #101 – I’m more confused by the one who ordered a Choc Top with sprinkles.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 18 at 04:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. #103
      … and piles of <strike>arse-</strike> ice-cream?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 04:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83
      (Kerri-Anne: Extreme square dancing …)

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 04:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. OK #101 which????

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 04 18 at 04:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. #101 I’m guessing the lady who bit her ice cream is the married one.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 04 18 at 04:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. #107 It’s the one with the wedding ring on her finger. And ash_, Little Johnny does NOT like the way you think!

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 04 18 at 05:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #108
      Little Johnny Strikes Again:

      Little Johnny was sitting in class doing math problems when his teacher picked him to answer a question.
      “Johnny, if there were five birds sitting on a fence and you shot one with your gun how many would be left.”
      “None,” replied Johnny, “‘cause the rest would fly away.”
      “Well the answer is four,” said the teacher, “but I like the way you are thinking.”
      Little Johnny says, “I have a question for you now. If there were three women eating ice cream cones in a shop, one was licking her cone, the second was biting the cone and the third was sucking the cone, which one is married?”
      “Well,” said the teacher nervously, “I guess the one sucking the cone?”
      “No,” said Little Johnny, “the one with the wedding ring on her finger, but I like the way you are thinking.”

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 05:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83
      Dancing with the ‘tards

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 18 at 05:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ot again but had to share this one. Its a PDF and right at the bottom but have a look for the wettest council in Australia.

      Smiles per hour.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 18 at 05:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. I just went to a conference today on AGW.  I have decided to hold my nose and make the most of this scam.  As a good bureaucrat, I recognise that an emissions trading scheme is going to need one humungous load of carbon nazis regulators to try and reduce the number of scam artists selling carbon credits and shonky amelioration schemes.  I might as well be in charge.  I am updating my resume right now!

      Posted by entropy on 2007 04 18 at 05:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. Mind you once in my position of power, I will ensure that long term planning for things such as dams, for instance, will no longer be based on the last 100 years of streamflow data, but say, the last five years, plus projections based on current climate models using the same recent data, with demand modeled on high end projections of population growth.

      The increase in water skiing facilities will be impressive.

      Posted by entropy on 2007 04 18 at 06:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. Even with the help of RSVP, I think that is the only contented pussy that Jeremy will see for a long while.

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 18 at 06:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. #114: Nice one!

      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 04 18 at 06:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. The halal answer is of course should be “What’s she doing doing outside eating Icecream?”

      Posted by Rob Read on 2007 04 18 at 06:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. Habib, I found a piccy of you, Pogria asked me if it could be you it’s here.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 07:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. So that’s Habib! He has (ahem) flair, doesn’t he?
      Clicked on Next at the bottom of the page, found a man wearing a freshly-killed wolf. The caption:

      Sometimes you want to flaunt it. Sometimes you have to make a statement. Sometimes you want the world to know you’re loaded. Sure, you could knock people down and grind hundred-dollar bills in their face. You could glue silver dollars to the soles of your shoes, kick ‘em in the nuts so hard you leave the impression of a president on their privates. But that’s not you. You have style – Dorcus style. So you wear our new Oh Fur Chrissakes line to the job site. Let ‘em look. Let ‘em wonder what it’s like to wear something like this. Let ‘em realize every payday that their labors permit you to swaddle yourself in pricey dead animals. And then when they “drop” an expensive piece of plate glass, or “mistakenly” pour sugar into the gas tank of the front loader, or “forget” to let the concrete harden before they start pouring the floor above, you’ll know why.

      Thinking about it, that sounds much more Habib’s style.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 07:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #117 kae:

      Got the hots for Habib? … is that Halal? …

      Posted by Stevo on 2007 04 18 at 07:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. well if ever you wanted a demo that islam is downright wrong, forget splodeydopes and headhackers: dissing the tim tam is simply unaustralian

      Posted by KK on 2007 04 18 at 07:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. OT but our former troll Bryla looks like he is going to be spending a few years in prison for breaking into a US base in central Australia (Pine Gap). Linky

      Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 04 18 at 08:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bryla and Dawood, they share a little cell,
      The evil pair of tossers make each other mad as hell!
      Bryla swings a clumsy blow but Davie’s just too fast,
      Then Big Boy Bubba ambles in to do them – Oh, I can’t go on, this is a family blog after all!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 08:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. All I know is that Vegemite will never be Halal.

      Posted by Penguin on 2007 04 18 at 08:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Vegemite is manna from God, so it’s not Halal.  I don’t think Penguins are Halal, I better go and check “Ask the Imam” … dunno if I got the right one, there seems to be quite a few Internet Imams about these days …

      Posted by Stevo on 2007 04 18 at 08:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. #118, Hey Swinish,

      did you check out the leather gear. Could be Habib in his motorcycle days?

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 08:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. You mean before he, uh, mellowed, Pogria?
      Could be. I always figured on Habib having more chin. Or rather, chin.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 08:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Swinish,

      you think Tim might have some competition?

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. Leave thinking all is fine, come back and you’re sucking Tim Tam.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 04 18 at 09:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #65 #95 et al. Need some magic carbon trading? Try Prestidigitators’ Accounting for Carbon Offsets®. PACO® will make money for you out of thin thick air. (Until we sell up just before the Great Carbon Credit Crash that will be engineered by our Dark Lord, just as he did to the Tulip Craze using the TARDIS all those centuries ago.)

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 04 18 at 09:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmm. That gives me an advertising idea: Plant your tulips, here, and blow… with PACO® Carbon Offsets.

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 04 18 at 09:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. #128,

      Just as long as it’s not Tim’s Tam!!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #128 Don’t blame me El Cid, Kae is the one being naughty with her Tim Tam gut-sucking 69 comments. Yow-zer!

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 04 18 at 09:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #131 – I’m not going anywhere near that.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 09:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. I don’t blame you Swinish.

      1.618 would have your Tams in a jam if you did.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. Damn right, and I need them myself, if only for show!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 09:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. Here all along, (never taking the time to Google (NO, not THAT WAY) it) I thought Tim Tam was an endearing name, given by 1.618.

      Then I find out IT is actually something to eat, suck, fondle OR make erotic movies with.

      You are a lucky man Tim Tam Blair.

      P.S. kae, you little devil. Turning all these normally church going people, into well…Roman Orgy’ists.

      And, I missed it….BUT I’ll do my damnedest to come up to the challenge…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 04 18 at 09:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. You will no doubt rise to the occasion, El Cid.
      Gotta go, all the best. Check out Pogria’s link and thank God you don’t dress like those Dorcus guys.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 09:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. Tim Tams—Wasn’t that the lame French comic strip about an Australian newspaper editor and blogger…?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 04 18 at 10:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #138,

      oui!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 10:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. #136

      I’m sure you’ll rise to the challenge, El Cid!

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 05:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. Ah, swinish, next comment.
      Great minds and all that.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 05:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #95 Wand
      Yep that is the go, I think at the moment they are just paying a bit of lip service to it in case it does get serious and they need to be prepared to fashion it such that it has the minimum impact on their businesses.

      #95 Entropy
      Keep up the good work, we will need a whole column of 5th columnists reporting in on what the “man” is planning, so we can stick it to him.

      #129 andycanuck
      I am still somewhat wary of this PACO conglomerate. It seems that they have a product and service for every situation. Is it like a big department store?

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 18 at 06:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #95 Wand
      Just looked up Chatham House Rule. Oh I see, there is a particular term for the way I conduct myself. Some just say I am a clunt bunt.

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 18 at 06:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. 136/I thought Tim Tam was an endearing name, given by 1.618.  I did, it should go into the dictionary~ tim tam- a term of endearment.

      Lucky Tim B got his first wish, he wished for me.

      Tim B what’s your second?

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 04 18 at 06:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Mainly mail order, Pickles. And sometimes TARIDS-order for special customers. (Although you’d be surprised where PACO Multinational sets up bricks & mortar sites.)

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 04 18 at 07:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. While I’m deeply flattered by the speculation on my sartorial style, I’m afraid you’re all incorrect- this is the day-to-day active wear look, whereas these trousers are more suited for high-speed motoring due to flexibility for swift double-clutching and rapid exchange of heated (and whiffy) air for cooler, while for more formal occasions, such as Vice Regal garden parties and meeting with senior members of government, one must dress appropriately.

      When dealing with tardy tenants, surly trade unionists, enviropests, hippies and assorted annoyances, I find this look suitable.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 18 at 07:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. this is the day-to-day active wear look
      Whoa, Biggles, I think you just stepped in something there.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 08:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. #147

      curses Algy, I’ve just pranged my kite after the wheel stuck in this bloody donkey turd

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 18 at 08:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. But since we’re on the topic of appearances – for those who contributed to the discussion which started here, the campaign has made a modest beginning*.
      Well, maybe it’s more of an immodest beginning.

      *Product disclaimer – simulated Swinish shown.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 08:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. #146,

      oooohhhh habib!!!!

      Are your Tam’s as good as Tim’s????

      #149,

      That’s all very well Swinish, but where are your Tam’s???

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 08:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. O/T as usual.

      Not one but 2 flying pig moments at the ABC!!

      Hounour killings mentioned.

      And they even mention Israel without the usualhissing and spitting.

      Something is wrong….somewhere.

      At this rate they will start to use the draded judgemental “T” word to describe those who target civillians. Cant have that.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 18 at 08:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. #151,

      OMG mole!!!
      I read through your link. I’m at home doing the washing, my son playing xbox, and realising how fortunate I am. I hope for the women’s sake that this is the tip of the iceberg and that finally some justice may come their way.

      About damn time ABCess reported on what’s really happening in the world instead of just Howard and Bush bashing.

      Thanks for the link mole.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. #151 from frollicking’s first link:

      INSPECTOR LIMOR YEHUDA: Yeah, yeah. After she cried, after she begged for her life, they used a stone to hit her on the head. And then she was still alive, she didn’t die from the injury. And she was then thrown out into the well like this. Alive, semi‑injured, bleeding, I guess. It’s terrible. It’s so cruel, so vicious. But to throw someone alive when is your relatives, your own flesh and blood, right? It’s, it’s very, very difficult to bear.

      How awful, to do that to your own relative, shocking.

      /sarcasm

      It would probably be OK if it was a stranger. Or a Jew.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 09:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. One day, Pogria, all the world will know my Tams!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 18 at 09:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. Swinish, can you give us a bit of warning?
      Just in case we need to cover our eyes, or wear sunnies, or something.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 09:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. #154

      Do they come in dark, or are they milk chocolate only?

      Hi Kae!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hi Pog, how’s the lurgi coming on?

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 18 at 09:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. still trying to throw a lung Kae.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. #150- I think my tams are rather jaunty.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 18 at 09:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. #159

      They’re what’s known as the O’ Shanter variety of Tam’s.

      Very fetching Habib.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. #159

      They wear those on the Haggis farms in Scotland.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 18 at 09:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. The proper way to ask for a phone #

      Sorry, given the way the thread was going, thought this might be appropriate 🙂  Definitely not work safe!

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 19 at 12:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #162,

      Wow, where’d you get the footage of Habib?

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 19 at 12:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. #162 – That’s a ballsy, cocksure approach if ever I saw one.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 19 at 12:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. Might have worked better if he’d remembered a pen.  Then again, don’t want to think about where he’d have put it.

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 19 at 01:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. #164 No pun intended, huh? 🙂

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 19 at 01:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. #163- I’ll have you know that occurred during a particularly warm and humid evening. Usually when I’m stepping out, I like to cover up in case of showers*– I don’t want to catch the sniffles.

      *Best to not have a nosh-up beforehand of baked beans, steamed cabbage, pickled onions and boiled eggs before dressing thus, unless you want to con your way into some ABC pissup as Phillip Adams.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 19 at 01:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. #167 WTH is that?

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 19 at 01:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bring out the Gimp!

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 04 19 at 01:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. #167

      I knew you were still around!!!

      Had to think of some way to draw you out when the Haggis farming didn’t work.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 19 at 02:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #162- You have no idea how difficult it is to find a spot for you car keys, wallet and gaspers. It does have some benefits though, as even panhandling alcoholic tramps seem reluctant to take money when you produce your purse.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 19 at 02:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #170- Here’s a recipe for haggis, which also has the benefit of being completely carbon neutral.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 19 at 02:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. And if that whets your appetite, you’d salivate at the prospect of a scabby dick.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 19 at 02:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. #173

      OUCH!!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 19 at 02:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #69
      What, no flim flam on the wham bam tim tam?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 04 19 at 07:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. #175
      Channelling Mark Holden?

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 19 at 07:52 AM • permalink

 

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