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The Mother Downunder 2006 Tour opens in Sydney:
A prominent American anti-war campaigner is urging Australians to take to the streets in protest against the Iraq war.
Local anti-war protesters slap foreheads and yelp: “Why didn’t we think of that?”
She says Prime Minister John Howard had no mandate to involve Australia in the war, which began in 2003.
Apart from being re-elected in 2004.
“I think Australians, they just need to get out on the streets and they need to say, ‘John Howard, you work for us’,” Mrs Sheehan said.
“‘We want our troops withdrawn and we don’t want you to support America.’”
Australians: please do exactly as the American woman says.
Mrs Sheehan has questioned Mr Howard’s friendship with US President George W Bush.
“George Bush isn’t even popular in America any more so I don’t know why any leaders in any countries who claim to govern their countries with the consent of the people they govern would align themselves closer with George Bush,” she said.
So if Bush’s poll numbers were up, Sheehan would quit protesting? Unlikely.
“[When] 14 Marines were killed one day, George Bush went on the TV and said they died for a noble cause … and he had to complete the mission to honour their sacrifices,” Mrs Sheehan said.
“I wanted to know what noble cause and I wanted him to stop using Casey’s name to continue and to justify more killing.”
I’m not sure that Bush has mentioned Casey Sheehan all that often.
“To say I’m a tool of the loopy Left, let me tell you almost 70 per cent of Americans agree with me.”
Not even 70 per cent of Sheehan’s family agrees with her. Cindy’s new friend plays the absolute moral authoritycard:
The activist was welcomed to Sydney by NSW Attorney-General Bob Debus, who urged her detractors to walk in her shoes.
“Those people who seek to criticise parents of a child who has died, let alone one who has died in a war, should just walk a mile or two in their shoes,” Mr Debus said.
Looks like Bob is attempting to shut down dissent.
- Let me be the first to say “dandrew, you are an idiot, and unimaginative to boot”.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 04:10 AM • permalink
- MentalFloss,
Sheehan has asked for Bush to explain the purpose of the war in which her son was killed. I would have thought that was a reasonable question for a mother to ask, yet Bush has avoided her as though she has the plague.
So, since I am an idiot, please explain to me the purpose of the war and why so many mothers have lost their sons.
- It was only a matter of time before they took this pathetic dog and pony show on tour. 3 years after the actually big anti-war demonstrations failed and all the Anglo leaders were re-elected (with Canada now going right too), this fool thinks she’s riding a wave.
We’ll see what happens in the American November mid terms, I think the repubs will lose a few seats but retain house control. Howard, needless to say, will be firmly in place until he decides to go.
You’d think, since 70% of ‘the people’ agree with her, there moonbat leftists would have less trouble getting rid of conservative leaders.
What she really means is that 70% of the media agree with her, and those idiots write the columns, file the stories and dominate our society’s cultural chatter. But every 4 years or so the actual population gets a vote and we keep sending these pooches back to the doghouse.
Nobody gives a shit what you think but your sycophants in the press, Sheehan. Stop dishonoring your son and using him as a commie ventriloquist dummy. He was a volunteer soldier and a patriot, not some crazy leftist ranter.
Shut up Sheehan.
- I would have thought that was a reasonable question for a mother to ask, yet Bush has avoided her as though she has the plague.
Bullshit, he met with her, which is as much as can be expected. What do you expect? 24 hour begging for forgiveness?
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 05 23 at 04:23 AM • permalink
- The purpose of the war is to instigate the process of democratic reform in the middle east and therefore drain the swamp that breeds endless instability and terrorism. It’s a continuation of the long war the West has been fighting for the last hundred years, first vs the fascists, then the communists, now the islamists.
I know this is all going over you head, ‘dandrew’ so I’ll rephrase it in the incontinent, turret-like out bursts that fuckheads like you think in:
Bush bad! Abu Graihib! urg! me good! Nazis!
Fuck off, idiot.
“Those people who seek to criticise parents of a child who has died, let alone one who has died in a war, should just walk a mile or two in their shoes,” Mr Debus said.
So, as the parent of a deceased child, does that give me absolute moral authority to tell Sheehan to “Shut the fark up!”?
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 04:34 AM • permalink
- Has she signed the form to get a headstone for her son yet? Or is he still lying in an unmarked grave?Posted by Evil Pundit on 2006 05 23 at 04:34 AM • permalink
- Fer cryin out, Amos.
I type a cogent, point by point response to this lackwit dandrewff, and you pip me at the post. CTRL-Z
I would have used a lot more words and been somewhat more pompous. I prefer your answer. Thanks.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 04:40 AM • permalink
- Honestly, how is one to repond to you, dandrew?
The Axis Powers at the time of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact were confronted in the first instance by Allied Powers—all of whom were located geographically west of “Mittel-Europe”.
You a so typical of the moonbats we get here, pick on a semantic triviality instead of addressing the argument like a mensch.
Let’s take your approach: every country is West of another country if that is how you WANT to look at it. See how your mind works?
Complete and utter twat.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 04:57 AM • permalink
- She can oppose the war all she likes, but to continue to claim her son died in vain is to submit herself to a life of never ending misery.
I’ll never forget a quote I read in the time magazine from a women who’s husband died when the troop helicopter he was flying in Iraq was shot down, but eighteen other troops survived. The husband had deliberately turned the chopper away from the troop hold, but in doing sacrificed himself.
The wife said: “The eighteen men in that helicopter needed my husband more in that split second than I needed him for the rest of my life”
Just beautiful…..
chrisgo,
A PS. Is Mexico part of “the West”?
Dandrew, your inability to grasp a simple mode of commonly accepted speech is making you miss the central point here: An American (Mother Sheehan to her worshippers) is interfering with the affairs of a sovereign nation (Australia).
And this Australian resents her meddling in our internal affairs.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 05:26 AM • permalink
- Let’s not use verbal shorthand, it’s getting dandrew terribly confused. Soon he’ll think when we refer to the ‘Left’ we mean things originating from, or located on, the physical left-hand side of his body, like the hand he uses to jerk off to internet porn and the scars where his unsightly third and fifth nipples were removed.
Instead of ‘West’, lets say Those Countries Primarily Anglo-Saxon In Origin That Share a Common Commitment To Democratic Constitutional Rule, a Judeo-Christian Philosophical Outlook And Regulate Their Economies By Means Of A Free Market.
Or TCPASIOTSACCTCRAJCOARTEBMOAFM for short.
Or alternatively, rather than us wasting out time rehashing the most basic definitions of political concepts for the benefit of an actual moron, maybe ‘dandrew’, you could just, you know, FUCK OFF?
- Dandruff is probably the dumbest wannabe troll we’ve seen here for a while. I just asked his ‘questions’ (to over-dignify them) of my 13 yr old son. He aswered all of them factually, and asked what kind of a dropkick was asking such stupid questions.
I particularly liked the lad’s answer to the WWII Germany and Italy one: ‘No, Dad, they were not then, but after we smashed them and rebuilt them from the ground up, they are now.’
An answer waaaay beyond Dumbdrew’s comprehension, by the looks of his comments.
As for that vile Sheehan, she can bugger off back to where she came from. My extended family has paid in the only acceptable currency over three wars for the freedoms we enjoy in this country, we have nothing to learn from a creature like that, which disgraces the memory of her honourable and worthy son.
MarkL
Canberra
- #4 dandrew
“So, since I am an idiot, please explain to me the purpose of the war and why so many mothers have lost their sons.”
Thats easy,
1. To prevent restoration and eventual establishment of a worldwide Caliphate, uniting the world under Islamic rule.
2. To prevent the Ban of all faiths apart from Islam, Judaism and Christianity (members of other religions are not listed as “People of the Book” in the Qur’an).
3. To prevent regulatation of all religious and social practice according to Sharia law.
4. To prevent all non-Muslim states from having to choose between either joining the Caliphate under Sharia law, or paying a tax to the Caliphate. Failure to pay the tax would be punished by military attacks.
A middle aged American woman is planning to speak here.
And yet when John Howard, a middle-aged Australian man, planned to speak in the US, Sheehan, Sarandon and others who’d never heard of him before, went ape-shit.
I was going to write more but I used more commas in that last sentence than should be considered morally acceptable.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 05:51 AM • permalink
- ’Regulate a free market economy? Is it free or regulated.’
Jaw-droppingly stupid. Dandruff, you are as dumb as a box full of rusty hammers. Do you wonder why people follow you in the street, pointing and giggling uncontrollably?
Amos: ‘ And Regulate Their Economies By Means Of A Free Market’
Note to the two neurons you laughingly call your brain. What you said is not what Amos said.
Sheesh, what a ‘tardboy.
MarkL
Canberra
Regulate a free market economy? Is it free or regulated.
Dandrew, you’re getting confused by simple semantics and missing the big issue in this thread: what gives her authority to demand anything of the Australian people. And don’t get caught in that “freedom of speech” trap again. The NSW AG denies that Mother Sheehan’s critics have a right to free speech in this instance. Why is that, do you think?
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 06:05 AM • permalink
- MarkL,
I think you got your metaphor a bit mixed up.However, I am not a carpenter so I do not know whether rusty hammers are smarter than the shiny ones. Or do you mean speech? A tool has yet to speak to me. Perhaps that is why I do not have your insight.
Back to the topic. Why is it not legitimate for Sheehan to ask for what purpose her son was killed?
- Yes, dandruff, that all have, and Dvorak, Wagner, Livy, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Ibn Batuta, Sun Tzu, Kabuki, Wayang, and a host of other influences. You seem utterly to lack even the most basic understanding of just how assimilative, dynamic and adaptive is the cultural melange we call ‘western culture’, apparently believing that is is defined geographically.
Jaw-droppingly stupid.You, therefore, are not only a fool, but a damned fool.
I do not tolerate fools.
Western culture is conceptual, you cretin! Sure, its bedrock consists of the values of the Enlightenment set in a Judao-Christian cultural milieu, but its roots go back millennia deeper than that.
Do you even know what the very first (and I think arguably among the greatest) works of western literature are, and who wrote them? My kids do, they’ve read ‘em.
MarkL
Canberra
- dandrew
Like any good political activist, journalist, political opposition or troll, she is free to ask that question and any other phrased differently but with similar intent, as often as they please ad-nausium. President Bush answers her and others often, as do most of our leaders. Perhaps you and mother S should listen on occasion. They do not need to address her directly. That would give her an importance far in excess of her worth. Here’s a sample
“The troops here and across the world are fighting a global war on terror. The war reached our shores on September the 11th, 2001. The terrorists who attacked us—and the terrorists we face—murder in the name of a totalitarian ideology that hates freedom, rejects tolerance, and despises all dissent. Their aim is to remake the Middle East in their own grim image of tyranny and oppression—by toppling governments, by driving us out of the region, and by exporting terror.”
- Man, Dandrew is some prize winner of a twit. He demands answers, he gets answers, he goes through the answers to fasten on some nit of a point to pick (what IS “Western Civilization”? Obviously, Greece is EAST of the UK, so you stupid people don’t include Socrates and Plato, and I have read the Cliff’s Notes, so I am smarter than you!), and then he pretends, again, that Cindy Sheehan never met President Bush after Casey’s noble sacrifice, and she never said how inspiring Bush was, and so everybody’s mean! Nyahh!
I’m already bored of him.
- I think Dandrew should also check those composers he listed, and which country they lived in, as it most certainly isnt any western country. Unless the Habsburg Empire constitutes a western country (which it doesnt as the concept of “the West” didnt exist till post WW2). What a tool!Posted by JSthecorrect on 2006 05 23 at 06:36 AM • permalink
…he pretends, again, that Cindy Sheehan never met President Bush after Casey’s noble sacrifice, and she never said how inspiring Bush was…
And she spent all that time in the ditch and couldn’t get to him. So, is that the reason she’s here now? She can’t get to Bush so she’ll go for his “lapdog”, Australia?
Mother Sheehan:”…and your little dog too! Hee! Hee! Hee!”
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 06:38 AM • permalink
Has your son ever been exposed to Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Vivaldi, Verdi.
Bach, assuming you refer to JS, died before Germany existed as a country. Beethoven lived most of his life in Vienna. Chopin was Polish. Vivaldi, similarly to Bach, died before Italy became a nation; he was Venetian. Verdi died in 1901; Mussolini’s fascist state that we reject as being “western” did not exist until 1922.
So your point is, as it were, on your head.
Why is it not legitimate for Sheehan to ask for what purpose her son was killed?
Because she’s not asking the people who killed him. How are we supposed to know what purpose they had in mind?
- MarkL.
I do not consider western civilisation in geographical terms. I was initially responding to another’s comment suggesting that “the West” defeated facism.
“Western culture” is , at best, a vague term. If you throw in Sun Tzu et al then it is a rather meaningless term. To the extent it has any meaning, the most glaring examples of facism manifisted in “the West”.
As to the first great works of western literature, I do not know to what you refer.
- I’d wager he’d rather like being fed dickheads, unlike those poor bunnies in a previous post.
Anyone catch the fearless dissection of the Sheehan sultanate shill on publicly funded yoof network JJJ this arvo? It nearly caused more casualties than an IED going off on a Baghdad bus- I nearly puked all over my windscreen and plowed into a pack of coffin-dodgers milling around a bus-stop.
I haven’t heard more free kicks given during an All Blacks/Wallabies test being referee’d by Hulun Clark.
If I can find a podcast of it, I’ll post a link.
(It’s only a matter of time before Dan Brown publishes a book revealing that the Moonbat Madonna is being hunted by some albino weirdo cassock-lifter though; the deification doled out by the lycanthropic left must surely make her a target for fruity Catholic conspiracy theory).
- Oh, MY.
Sigh.
“I do not consider western civilisation in geographical terms. I was initially responding to another’s comment suggesting that “the West” defeated facism.”
COMMENT: Which it did, no? And that term ONLY applies to Italy: what we really defeated was authoritarian nationailsm (WWI) fascism and socialist totalitarianism (WWII) and another breed of socialist totalitarianism (WWIII AKA ‘The Cold War’, although an awful lot of people got killed during it). We now face Islamic Theocratic totalitarianism – and do you have the courage to face this war? Your forebears did, do you?
“Western culture” is , at best, a vague term. If you throw in Sun Tzu et al then it is a rather meaningless term. To the extent it has any meaning, the most glaring examples of facism manifisted in “the West”.
COMMENT: No. We absorb and adapt. You need to learn this. And what you most incorrectly term ‘fascism’ was actually most deeply manifested by the Inca and Mexica civilisations. Mussolini’s Fascist Party was a pale, bloodless thing by comparison. The other things you incorrectly term ‘fascism’ were the blood-drenched socialist horrors unleashed by the vile ideologues marx, and Engels. Yes, german national Socialism was actually socialist, not fascist, the latter is merely a label – and a wrong one.As to the first great works of western literature, I do not know to what you refer.
COMMENT: For God’s sake, go and read The Iliad, and The Odyssey. HOMER, you ignoramus! And if you are VERY lucky, you will find a Jesuit who speaks Attic Greek, and have them read to you in the original, live. It must be live, that is how they were meant to be heard. You will find treasures you cannot see in translations, this is true even when one does not understand Attic Greek.
MarkL
Canberra
- It has been interseting.
No one did answer any question I asked. ratman tried, with a quote from Bush, but repeating propaganda is not really an answer. (BTW ratman, Iraq never attacked the US or even threaten to do so.)
There is an old saying about getting what you wish for. For your sakes and mine, I hope the world does not become the place you seem to be wishing for.
- Sheehan is a pure media phenomena, she has no real constituency outside the media and the small percentage of the population that votes green, as the minuscule turn-outs she’s capable of generating demonstrate.
We’ll continue to hear from her as long as the media continue supporting her, without sycophants like the idiots on JJJ she’s just be another anonymous ranter on a street corner.
She’s also an interesting indicator of how little real power the media actually have. Real power is represented by who gets the votes, and who’s in? Why that would be messirs Bush, Blair and Howard. You failed Sheehan, and your son will have a much better monument than that gravestone you forgot to buy, an Iraqi constitution.
- Gentlemen, it has bene fun toying with this troll, but with over 12 minutes spent on dandrew my time is at an end. He is not worth any more of my time than that.
Blame my editor, which worthy gentleman has decided that I must spend a large volume of evenings adding 10,000 words of archival research to my next publication.
Heartless creatures, editors!
markL
canberra
- Andrea, you know how I once complained that your spear was getting used a bit too swiftly?
Please accept my abject, grovelling apology.
Please put us out of our misery. The senorous rasp of fuckwitism here is in danger of upsetting my zen (and driving me AWAY from drink).
The world deserves to be protected from 12 year olds whose world view comes from the bottom of a toilet pan.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 23 at 07:07 AM • permalink
COMMENT: For God’s sake, go and read The Iliad, and The Odyssey. HOMER, you ignoramus! And if you are VERY lucky, you will find a Jesuit who speaks Attic Greek, and have them read to you in the original, live. It must be live, that is how they were meant to be heard. You will find treasures you cannot see in translations, this is true even when one does not understand Attic Greek.
Just to clear this up (and be a pedantic prick, I suppose) Homer’s stuff is in Ionic, not Attic, Greek.
Although they weren’t in their own dialect, the Athenians still considered Homer’s works to be great works of Greek literature, even though they didn’t originate in Attica or mainland Greece. They probably wouldn’t have done so, had they been using the kind of logic Dandrew’s using.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 07:08 AM • permalink
- Sheehan’s son voluntarily joined the US military. As a soldier, he gets told to go and fight wherever the democratically elected US government of the day chooses to send him. What is this bullshit that the president has to tell this poor, deranged woman why her son died? The poor bastard died in combat. End of story.
I know, I shouldn’t be responding to trolls – it only encourages the fuckwits.
- Dandrew has been banned for his practice of playing an ever-shifting argument game.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 05 23 at 07:17 AM • permalink
BTW ratman, Iraq never attacked the US or even threaten to do so.
It most certainly did threaten to attack the US. The most spectacular example was in the days after 9/11, when Uday predicted a biological weapon attack on the US—two weeks before the first anthrax letter showed up.
Then there was the USS Stark. And constantly firing on US aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones—a violation of the ‘91 cease-fire.
Oh, and the attempted assassination of a US citizen who happened to be a former president.
There’s plenty of evidence that Saddam was involved in setting up the ‘93 WTC attack, starting with the odd timing of the involvement of Ramzi Yousef—who, oddly, had an Iraqi passport. And the sanctuary given to Abdul Rahman Yasin, the only ‘93 WTC bomber not in prison.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 23 at 07:26 AM • permalink
- …puts little statue of Andrea on desk, surrounded by candles and makes offering of a particularly fine Barossa shiraz…
<dry retch> OK, to tell the truth, Mrs Drift has her eye on another refill and the candles are obviously to enhance her fine figure.
But isn’t it nice when some mono-neurone who keeps stamping its foot and saying “BUSH BAD, BUSH BAD, BUSH BAD” over and over and over finally has a sock inserted in both ends, is put in a sack and is quietly tipped overboard.
(sigh) if only whacko sheehan could be solved in such a manner. Cheers.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 23 at 07:56 AM • permalink
- I’m too late to join in the fun with dandrew. Dang!. (He sounds a bit like addamo, but then they all sound alike to me). Speaking of moonbats, tonight was the first time I’d ever heard St. Cindy speak. Ye gods!, the smugness!, the idiocy!. I,d seen pictures, but nothing could have prepared me…Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 23 at 07:58 AM • permalink
- That was at least the third time in the last couple of months that dandrew has monopolized a comment thread with his inane non-sequiturs and stupid semantics games…I’m voting for banning-on-sight in the future, since absolutely nothing useful ever seems to come from having him post. It’s worked quite well in the past, e.g. with that equally obsessive “Michael” character a year or two back.
- “No one did answer any question I asked”
Actually, a lot of people did. But like the mother you hold in such regard, you didnt listen. If you are going to ask questions and are given answers, the minimum you could do is answer those asked of you. However, as you have shown yourself to be a typical moron from the left, this concept is beyond you (much like most things in life i suspect).Posted by JSthecorrect on 2006 05 23 at 08:22 AM • permalink
- Just for the record our action in Iraq:
1)allows us to demonstrate to potential supporters of terrorism that we are serious about fighting those who proclaim themselves our enemy.
2) it allows us to exert pressure on Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia-all of whom have a history of supporting terrorism to varying degrees.
3) Allows us to offer combat to the jihadis on a battlefield of our own choosing where we can bring our military advantages to bear. In fact we are making it easy for most jihadis to come and fight if they like by bringing the war to their neighborhood-let them come duke it out with GIs as opposed to their usual head hackery or pizza parlor bombing by teenage girls.
This is a perfectly legitimate strategy for the type of enemy we face and is certainly preferable to the alternative of bunkering up and waiting for our enemies to bring the fight to us as they did on 9/11 (or the attempt to kill 50,000 people in 1993 already mentioned on this thread by SCD) but if the lefties out there have an alternative strategy for prosecuting the war let them articulate it. St. Cindy of the ditch certainly doesn’t have one, other than to beg the world for forgiveness for having the unmitigated temerity to defend ourselves.
- Meh, Cindy S. is such an easy target for the right, in the same way that people like A. Coulter are for the left. She makes it that much harder to talk about the war.
By the way, how’s everything going with that? Oil pumping like crazy? Potable water and electricity for all? The civil war/insurgency/unrest winding down? Gosh, with successes like those, it’s a wonder attention-hungry nutcases like Sheehan have any audience at all…oh, wait, I guess failing to ignore the staggering failures in Iraq, or failing to blame them on everyone but the people responsible makes me a nutcase.
- “I found on April 4, 2004 that there’s worse things than dying,” she said.
Ugly bitch person, has a way with words, doesn’t she? I’d put her right up there with Shakespeare, NO, NO not William, THIS Shakespeare.
See they even have a specialty aptly named for Cindy…HERE.
Two things:
First, is there no way someone down there can get Cindy eaten, say by a Croc?
Secondly, dandrew, sounded familiar like Addumo, with a dictionary.
- No sooner one gets done…another pops up. This place is going to need Whac-A-Mole. For the intended I shall define…[from the carnival game which involves quickly and repeatedly hitting the heads of mechanical moles with a mallet as they pop up from their holes.]
Those of the deranged Left, just never will get it….until they really get it, as in HERE
- ya know, sometimes I think the Left would prefer that the US had simply bombed all of Iraq into rubble, leaving no stone unturned and no Iraqi alive, since that would have made all the questions and answers oh-so-much easier. Instead they’re forced to confront and deal with a frequently difficult reality, which just seems…icky to them, in some way.
- #63 is incorrect. Without the media she would just be another ranter on the street corner Without the media, this media whore would be at home quietly waiting for the milkman to deliver her morning orgasm. It’s the media which keeps this ditch witch alive. Without the media, she might have found time to find a headstone to honor her brave son. With the media, she dances for its entertainment on his grave.
- Christ, are these moonbats breeding? Didn’t we put something in the water to stop that? I’ll bloody sue Haliburton for stuffing up on that one!
OK. As the quality of trolls is SO BAD let me take up the noble cause of the anti war moronic left. Here goes…. I think this is the general thrus of the arugments of our recent trolls. Ahem.
“BUSHILTLER CHIMPYMCBURTON HASN’T SOLVED ALL THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS AND HAS FAILED TO MAKE IRAQ A UTOPIA AND THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE DYING AND ITS BUSH’S FAULT THAT EVERYTHINGS IS MELTING AND THE SEALS ARE DYING AND AIDS IS KILLING PEOPLE AND SADDAM WASN’T SO BAD AFTERALL AND WAR IS NASTY AND IRAN SHOULD BE FREE TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS POWER AND ISRAEL IS REALLY NASTY AND SHOULD JUST LIE DOWN AND DIE AND LEUNIG IS A REALLY NICE PERSON WHO LOVES JOOOOOS DID I SAY IT WAS BUSH’S FAULT THAT HURRICANES ARE DESTROYING EVERYTHING AND I GET FAT ON MCDONALDS AND YOU SHOULDN’T EAT MEAT AND IRAQ IS A QUAGMIRE CIVIL WAR NOT PERFECT AND I TOLD YOU SO ANYWAY BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION SO DID HOwarD SO ITS NOT FAIR THAT IRAQIS GET DEMOCRACY BECAUSE ITS NOT PERFECT AND WHO CARES IF GIRLS NOW CAN BE EDUCATED AND HOSPITALS ARE BEING BUILT ITS NOT PERFECT SO THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT SADDAM ALONE. DON’T BOTHER REPLYING BECAUSE I HAVE MY FINGERS IN MY EARS AND AM YELLING NA NA NA AND WILL ANYWAY JUST REPEAT EVERYTHING I HAVE JUST SAID NO MATTER IF YOU SHOW DIFFERENT.
Is that about it?
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 23 at 09:11 AM • permalink
- or failing to blame them on everyone but the people responsible makes me a nutcase.
Except that, as usual for deranged lefty morons, you obviously think the people who are responsible for the failures are those who try to rebuild Iraq under adverse conditions, not those who are doing their level best to prolong those adverse conditions by means of roadside bombings, kidnappings and assassinations. But, yeah, nice try at sounding reasonable in your first paragraph, too bad it went all to hell after you hit Enter.
- Wow, good thing you fellas aren’t trying to do anything nefarious like shut down dissent or anything. Because that would be bad. Bob Debus bad.
But it’s cool, because I’m, you know, deranged. “Why, how dare you mention anything negative about Iraq, don’t you know these things take time? Plus, beheadings!”
Hey, six more months, right guys?
- #90 You wouldn’t know anything about it. You’d never put your hide in harms way. You haven’t a clue about what you are whining about. Have you been to Iraq (and no, seeing it on the news doesn’t count)? Have you been in and around or otherwise within 1000 miles of Baghdad? What qualifies you to make these judgments of yours?
Your typical leftoid “dissenting view” is nothing but argument baiting. You are a liar and a fraud to claim innocence here. Piss of troll.
- Wow, good thing you fellas aren’t trying to do anything nefarious like shut down dissent or anything.
Absolutely NOT…Don’t know about the rest of the group, but personally, I’d kinda’ like to see you THIS way, BUT “anything nefarious like shut down dissent or anything.”
Absolutely NOT….speak on dipshit, while you can…LOL.
- Anyone actually wanting to know a definition of “The West” is referred to
Roger Scruton’s “Dictionary of Political Thought.”Posted by Susan Norton on 2006 05 23 at 09:31 AM • permalink
- Australia: My heartfelt sympathies in putting up with this lunatic. I suppose it’s good news that she has to go to Australia to get the attention she so clearly craves….she can’t get it here, and Europe seems to be out for her.
Re #13, Evil Pundit…..Snopes reports that Casey’s father is in the process of getting a headstone (story here). Most of the Sheehan family is staying away from The Saint Of The Ditch™, for which I can hardly blame them.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 09:32 AM • permalink
- Guys, I think we have this all backwards. We should be SUPPORTING Cindy’s world tour. We have to send her to Bagdhad next. Or Kirkuk.Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 23 at 09:33 AM • permalink
- Or, put from a female point of view:
“Hi, I’m Cindy Sheehan, visiting your beautiful country for the first time.
I’m the mother of an American soldier killed in Iraq and I think that entitles me to come here and tell you nice folk how to enact your foreign policy. Most people agree with me.
Because my son was killed, I’m really upset and I’ve decided to dishonour him by standing on his coffin and making an exhibition of myself by basically exaggerating, lying and standing against everything my son stood and fought for. He would have wanted that – well, OK he would have died of shame but since he died for his country I’m OK to just keep on doing what I’m being paid to do. When I’m not standing on his coffin making an exhibition of myself I’m lying in ditches waiting to ambush our President. Its nice being on the news and in newspapers and I have all these new friends who love me being on the news and in newspapers. I’ve never had friends before, so its great that I’m able to use my son’s death like this.
I’m from the anti war movement and most people agree with me. So do what I say.
I hope all your sons die too, so then you’ll see how right I am. Remember, I’m Cindy Sheehan and I’m from the anti war movement, just like the trolls in this blog. They all agree with me.”
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 23 at 09:34 AM • permalink
- Ah, yes, whenever a dissenting opinion is voiced, it’s all “memes” and “you’ve never been to Iraq, so stfu”. Great.
What qualifies me to make these judgements of mine? I have a stake in what my nation does in my name. Oh, wait, I’ve never been to Iraq, so I guess that automatically disqualifies me.
What did I lie about? Point it out, and I’ll cop to it. And where did I claim innocence?
And, argument baiting? Again, good to see you’re so receptive to an opinion that differs from yours. Talk about memes…
- Jim Treacher has the most realistic left-wing plan
Good idea! First we’ll coax Saddam out of his bunker with a trail of delicious candy. Then, once his belly is full and he’s all sleepy and happy, we’ll calmly explain that we don’t approve of what he’s been doing and it’s not very nice and we wish he’d stop. And he’ll be like, “Whoa, I never thought of it that way. You guys are my friends! I like you!” And then everybody will hug and cry, and then get a little embarrassed about crying, and then make some jokes to cover up being embarrassed. And then a beautiful rainbow will appear, and a shy unicorn will walk down it, and Saddam will ride the unicorn to the North Pole, and he’ll spend the rest of his life helping Santa make wonderful toys for all the good little girls and boys, and there’ll be hot chocolate, and, and, and, and nobody will ever ever die again for any reason ever. THE END
“Those parents of a child who has died, let alone one who has died in a war, and who want the war protesters to stop using their children’s names on their picket signs and faux memorials, should just walk a mile or two in their birkenstocks,” Mr Debus said.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 23 at 09:45 AM • permalink
- #99 Yes, you do have a stake in what your nation does in your name, and every three years or so you get a chance to vote on it. In 2004 you had that chance and you lost. So forward differing opinions by all means but at the same time put away your hankerchief and learn to live with the results of the last election.Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 05 23 at 09:52 AM • permalink
What did I lie about?
Not lie so much as making a disingenuous argument—one that’s been batted down so much that we are forced to assume those still making it are doing so for dishonest motives, as the level of ignorance required to truly believe it is stunning and a little bit frightening.
That argument, BTW, is the position that the imperfection of Iraq’s current state is evidence that it has not improved.
As an example, oil production—Iraq is on course to fill its OPEC quote this year. First time since 1991. Another example, electricity—yes, it’s true that Baghdad doesn’t have nearly as much power available as it used to, but that’s because it’s been made available to other parts of the country.
Toss in the sabotage efforts of the “insurgents” and the oddball attitudes the Iraqi people have towards electricity (it should be free, it should be tappable by anyone with a enough wire to reach their home, and safety is for the weak), and, no, things aren’t perfect. But they’re a hell of a lot better.
You might also want to look at the conditions of the marshes in Iraq. Find out what Saddam did to them, and what’s happened since his removal.
Dig into the status of schools—how many new ones, how many more students, etc.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 23 at 09:54 AM • permalink
- #100
Ah, the “we’ve heard that one before, which automatically makes it irrelevant” meme. A totally adequate substitute for actual substance. Totally.Eh, I really shouldn’t give you guys too hard a time, I’m sure you’re sick and tired of having to defend your position, and I’m equally sure that most of the people who comment here that aren’t down with the war areobnoxious trolls. I certainly can be pretty obnoxious, but I did say that I’m nowhere near Sheehans biggest fan. I really was bummed when I heard she came down here. She truly is every bit as idiotic as the six more months crowd.
- You are lying when you claim to be merely voicing a dissenting opinion. You’ve chosen to proclaim a fact-free attack in hopes of the very responses you are getting. I allowed myself to be suckered in by a troll (once again). And yes you are correct, you are utterly unqualified to say the things you’ve said here. But I won’t pick nits with you, everything you’ve said is bullshit.
Once again, piss off troll.
- It’s not that we don’t love you mate (mwah! mwah! geez, leave the tongue out, mate, we’ve only just met), its just that all your arguments have been put already. May I point to (coughs self consciously) # 88.
That just about sums up your line of ‘thinking’, doesn’t it … in the same sense as sea anenomes may appear to ‘think’ but actually just reflexively react against their immediate environment.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 23 at 10:17 AM • permalink
- #106
So very glad to hear that you’re able to read my mind. And you’re wrong that I’m unqualified to to say the things I’ve said here. Just because it distresses you to hear what I’ve said does not in any way make me unqualified to say them.
Oh, and fact-free? Hey, I guess I have to give you that one, seeing as how you shut me down with all those factual refutations of my fact-free arguments. Oh, wait…
#104
Schools are indeed being rebuilt in Iraq, and that’s great. I took your advice, sniffed around, and saw a couple of articles saying just that, and that people seem to be warming to the idea of sending their children to them. Oil production, I don’t know. I’ll take a look, see what I can find, and if I have to eat my words, then eat I shall.
- Okay, let’s get down to brass tacks.
I’ve got $20 for ya’ll to keep her. How much more would it take? I’m sure I could get our Dark Lord™ to pony up some cold, hard cash. Or start a collection from other Americans who wish she’d go away.
On a serious note, I wish the shrew would go home and take care of her surviving children, the ones she abandoned when she got bitten by the activist bug. That’s why I can’t stand her.
That’s what I would like some reporter to ask her: “Cindy, how are your other children? Remember them?”
Elizabeth
Imperial KeeperPosted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2006 05 23 at 10:32 AM • permalink
- If only i could store up a bucket of my dogs droppings mixed with water for a week or two, and find the place where this collection of arseholes was gong to be meeting and rig it right up above them to drop it over the whole slimey lot of them…. mid rant…. damn, i’d pay money to be able to do that….
- For all our trolls ( the droppings are huge, have they been feeding?.
Do you support “refugees” from the middle east?
Do you support the overthrow of the regimes they flee from?Unless both answers aer yes your a complete fuckwit. THE END.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 05 23 at 10:43 AM • permalink
…the oddball attitudes the Iraqi people have towards electricity (it should be free, it should be tappable by anyone with a enough wire to reach their home, and safety is for the weak)…
Rob, that is so true. Some of the oddest photos I’ve see of Iraqi cities are where it looks like there’s a net over the street. In fact, every structure in the photo has a custom (and homemade!) tap into the power grid.
As for the pool to keep Cindy in Australia…..c’mon, people, these are our allies and friends! What say we put that money to marooning her in New Zealand? Or maybe Antarctica? I’ll put $100 down for that.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 10:52 AM • permalink
- #108 El Cid What’s the beer fund up to???
Things are going OK, its already getting hot as hell, but construction continues. There are trouble spots, and that will probably go on for a long time, but Iraqis are carrying on. The traffic is getting worse daily in this neighborhood, and I take that as a very positive sign. People around here are just fed up with the attacks. I spent most of today with an Iraqi (network technician) who has spent his entire life in Baghdad, and I asked him what he thought of this war. He said he had never had the opportunities he has now when the country was under Saddam. He too said he was sick of the attacks but that he and his neighbors watch out for each other. They don’t hesitate to use the national tip line to report strangers who don’t belong there.
Pretty optimistic attitude for someone qualified to speak on the matter, as opposed to:
By the way, how’s everything going with that? Oil pumping like crazy? Potable water and electricity for all? The civil war/insurgency/unrest winding down? Gosh, with successes like those, it’s a wonder attention-hungry nutcases like Sheehan have any audience at all…oh, wait, I guess failing to ignore the staggering failures in Iraq, blah frickin blah blah blah…
- Thanks bob for a proper report.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 05 23 at 11:02 AM • permalink
- As for kodos423….sorry, kid, but you ain’t that original. And I think that you set the bar a tad too high, because you want perfection soonest, you really don’t understand the situation, or a combination of both.
But I will say that oil production is a problem. I’ve mentioned this on other threads, but between terrorists blowing pipelines and mortaring production facilities, and the appalling lack of maintenance for those facilities under Hussein, and it’s amazing that production is so high.
Plus a large amount of oil goes for internal use—the Iraqis like cheap gasoline, you see. And they need fuel for their electrical generators.
So the situation is not so simple and clear cut as you want it to be. Which is hardly surprising, given the disingenious tone of your part of this thread.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 11:03 AM • permalink
- Hey, Texas Bob! Good evening, or it is for y’all in Baghdad!!! Keep up the good work—God knows someone has to give trolls like kodos423 something to bitch about. It’s either that or they whine about alien kidnappings being covered up by the government. And those kidnappings are so 1990, y’know?Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 11:06 AM • permalink
- #122
Plus a large amount of oil goes for internal use—the Iraqis like cheap gasoline, you see. And they need fuel for their electrical generators.Um, sure it does.
- #118: Tell ya what I’m gonna do. For the low, low price of $10,000 (US), I will reserve a place for Ms. Sheehan at The Moonbat Belfry, a quiet retreat owned and operated by the mental health care subsidiary of Paco Enterprises. Nestled among the auto salvage yards of Lizard Lick, North Carolina, Ms. Sheehan can begin her trek on the long, long road to recovery. Three squares a day, escorted strolls among the rusty hulks of Packard touring sedans and Shoebox Fords, the nightly singing of The Star-Spangled Banner in the commons room, and numerous opportunities to bond with nature by feeding the birds through the bars on her window (bread crumbs provided). Under the loving care of our highly-trained medical staff (Bruno and Spike), I can practically guarantee that in a relatively short time – say, 10 or 15 years – Ms. Sheehan will be ready to resume some semblance of a normal, quiet and modest life.
- #127: Oh, and I will personally supervise her training in humility. By the time I get through with her, she will be so meek that she will make Stoop Davy Dave look like Emperor Bokassa I on his golden throne, passing judgement on insufficiently adulatory tribal chiefs.
Oh, and SDD, I was only looking at your shoes because I worried that my Apollo Club Killer-Diller Hep Cat Brown-and-Whites would make you feel bad, standing there in your Keds sneakers, so I was going to give them to the next homeless guy I saw.
El Cid What’s the beer fund up to???
119 Texas Bob…Oh yeah “beer fund”. Hold on….wow just found 37 more cents in the couch…damn lket me check the rest of this stuff….
HEY a dime…..Ummm quick off the top tally, $7.89..no, no…it’s $8.27. Just heard 38 more cents rolling around in the dryer. Ball markers, played a few holes yesterday.
So yeah..$8.27….good huh? How many cases of
Ayinger will that buy?…LOL. Keep safe, dude.
- Since this thread has been taken over by lefty inanity anyway…that moonbat prof of mine delivered (unintentionally, once again) another note-perfect example of the lefty mindset, in this case the “if it’s not perfect, it’s bad” attitude that was also evident further up in the thread. Let’s put the whole thing into an abstract context so the sheer idiocy shows up best:
There be a process X which has exactly one of two possible outcomes:
Outcome 1: Indicator A improves, and indicator B stays the same
Outcome 2: Indicator A stays the same, and indicator B improvesAccording to him, that process would have to be judged negatively. As usual, he didn’t actually spell out the rationale for that opinion of his, but presumably it’s because, after all, no matter what happens there’s always an indicator that shows that things haven’t got better.
- Re #126….you don’t consider 500,000 barrels of oil per day a large amount? That’s roughly 27.5 million gallons per day. Yeah, it could be more, but what’s your point?
BTW, your DOE link shows a net export of about 1.5 million barrels per day. So I think that the answer to your question:
is a qualified “Yes”.
It’s also interesting to note that there was a rapid drop in oil exports from 2000 to 2003, and an equally sharp rise from 2003 to 2005. That in spite of concentrated efforts by the terrorists to blow up pipelines, mortar oil production facilities, terrorize oil truck drivers, subvert management staff, and so on.
Again—the situation is not so simple and clear cut as you want it to be.
Or it could just be that you are a “half empty glass” sort of person.
Aside from longing for the days when THIS spoke The Truth™ about the world around us, eh?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 12:54 PM • permalink
As usual, he didn’t actually spell out the rationale for that opinion of his, but presumably it’s because, after all, no matter what happens there’s always an indicator that shows that things haven’t got better.
Maybe kodos423 is your professor, PW? Might explain a few things.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 12:56 PM • permalink
#28 Let’s not use verbal shorthand, it’s getting dandrew terribly confused. Soon he’ll think when we refer to the ‘Left’ we mean things originating from, or located on, the physical left-hand side of his body, like the hand he uses to jerk off to internet porn and the scars where his unsightly third and fifth nipples were removed.
Instead of ‘West’, lets say Those Countries Primarily Anglo-Saxon In Origin That Share a Common Commitment To Democratic Constitutional Rule, a Judeo-Christian Philosophical Outlook And Regulate Their Economies By Means Of A Free Market.
Or TCPASIOTSACCTCRAJCOARTEBMOAFM for short.
— posted by amos
Well, you can go the short route if you want amos. But I prefer following the Monty Python way of using the whole term or name.
[I have removed the contents of this paragraph, which mostly consisted of a mile-long hyphenated construction that BROKE THE FUCKING PAGE AND MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO READ. For Christ’s sake, wronwright, I expected better of you. The (Disappointed) Managment.]Posted by wronwright on 2006 05 23 at 01:13 PM • permalink
- *sniff sniff* Love the smell of Pine-O-Cleen. You guys tidied up good.Posted by James Waterton on 2006 05 23 at 01:23 PM • permalink
- Um, wronwright, you need to be sent to the corner for what you did to this page.Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 23 at 01:31 PM • permalink
- Rob, I’ll allow you to carry on the debate with dandrew, Addamo, and the other “Peace for Our Time” trolls. I plan to make the astute Monty Python observation. Someone has to do it. Might as well be me.
By the way, I don’t like spam.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 05 23 at 02:21 PM • permalink
- Rebecca, VRWC types don’t spit seeds on the floor….we eat them whole, shells and all. Those seeds are from the leftoid trolls, the slovenly tools.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 03:06 PM • permalink
- “Why is it not legitimate for Sheehan to ask for what purpose her son was killed?”
Because she’s alady been told.
Just like you’ve already been told the answer to your question, and so the repetition of the same question is no longer legitimate.
Posted by Tatterdemalian on 2006 05 23 at 03:47 PM • permalink
- Thus, I might add, dandy is now a legitimate subject for mockery.Posted by Tatterdemalian on 2006 05 23 at 03:52 PM • permalink
- It’s just gone 05:45, I’ve had my eggs & bacon, so I am feeling generous.
This from kodos:
“Schools are indeed being rebuilt in Iraq, and that’s great. I took your advice, sniffed around, and saw a couple of articles saying just that, and that people seem to be warming to the idea of sending their children to them. Oil production, I don’t know. I’ll take a look, see what I can find, and if I have to eat my words, then eat I shall. “
This phrase sets him apart—if only slightly—from the most recent morons we’ve dealt with. Who knows, he may consume a hearty meal of his words and come to enjoy the diet.
Or, maybe I’m just getting soft in my old age…
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 03:55 PM • permalink
- #149 Tatterdemalian, I humbly take credit for labelling him as such in post #3.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 03:58 PM • permalink
- One lives in hope, paco, one lives in hope.
The recently promulgated “Whack-a-Mole” theory of thread evolution (thanks for that El Campeador)—or more probably a sub-theory thereof: “punctuated equilibrium” presages a re-appearance of some typostrophic variation.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 04:26 PM • permalink
- Wow, we even had a guy from the Sophist School of Rhetoric denying any knowledge of ancient Greek literature. Surely that can’t be right. Wasn’t it old Socrates who used to give lessons on how to handle trollssophists?
About the Help Relocate Cindy Fund: Look, I’m on a very tight budget due to irritating personal stuff, but I’m willing to throw in my can money for the next year if it would get that insufferable woman exiled on some rock down there. Didn’t Shackleton find several nice small rocks down that way? I bet there’s one or two left that haven’t been ruined by crass development. Cindy likes nature, too, you know.
RebeccaH, it’s a good thing you showed up. These guys are pigs.
- In other news:
American pop star Prince has been voted the “world’s sexiest vegetarian” in PETA’s annual online poll, the animal rights group has announced.
He quotes Mohandas K: “To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.”
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 04:40 PM • permalink
American pop star Prince has been voted the “world’s sexiest vegetarian” in PETA’s annual online poll, the animal rights group has announced.
He quotes Mohandas K: “To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.”
That’s very interesting. I wonder if he’ll be carpeted by the elders at his Jehovah’s Witnesses Kingdom Hall for quoting a “pagan religionist”. They take that kind of thing very seriously. As an interesting aside, at the Kingdom Hall he is not referred to as “Brother Prince”, but as “Brother David”.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 23 at 05:32 PM • permalink
- You know, I think I just realized that I recognize the Left’s standard mode of behaviour from something I’ve been doing myself. A bit of exposition might be in order:
Back in the early 90s, any type of round-based strategy/sim computer games were hugely popular here in Germany, much more so than anywhere else. (Yeah, we Krauts like to build stuff, while we’re not busy destroying it again anyway.) No different with me, since my youth fell squarely into that period of time. German software developers were cranking these games out like there was no tomorrow, and a decent number of them were in fact pretty good.
However, they also tended to be rather similar to one another and kinda boring once you’d played a certain amount of them. So at some point I started being more interested in trying to figure out how to play a game as perfectly as possible (what exactly does this setting do, how does that strategy stack up, etc), and less interested in actually playing it. There are tons of games that I used to have pages upon pages of notes for, but that I didn’t actually play completely through at any point.
That seems to be pretty much the lefty approach to reality…endless yapping about options, possibilities and strategies, but no interest in actually following through on any of it because that’s, like, boring and stuff, and would just distract from what you’re really interested in. Just a shame that reality can’t be turned off like a game, although the lefty echo chamber is doing their level best to pretend that they can.
- kodos whatever has been banned like his buddy dandruff. I am in a banning mood. Also, wronwright has been spanked for breaking the page. When you break a web page GOD KILLS A CUTE, FLUFFY PUPPY. Don’t forget it, people.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 05 23 at 07:09 PM • permalink
#101 Rob Read wrote: Jim Treacher has the most realistic left-wing plan
Good idea! First we’ll coax Saddam out of his bunker with a trail of delicious candy. Then, once his belly is full and he’s all sleepy and happy, we’ll calmly explain that we don’t approve of what he’s been doing and it’s not very nice and we wish he’d stop. And he’ll be like, “Whoa, I never thought of it that way. You guys are my friends! I like you!” And then everybody will hug and cry, and then get a little embarrassed about crying, and then make some jokes to cover up being embarrassed. And then a beautiful rainbow will appear, and a shy unicorn will walk down it, and Saddam will ride the unicorn to the North Pole, and he’ll spend the rest of his life helping Santa make wonderful toys for all the good little girls and boys, and there’ll be hot chocolate, and, and, and, and nobody will ever ever die again for any reason ever. THE END
Usually when I read something humorous, I will smile. Possibly I will chuckle and maybe nod in agreement and appreciation of the author’s wit and insight into the foibles of certain people. Seldom is my reaction anything more than that.
But when I read Jim Treacher’s post, reproduced by Rob, I laughed so hard, I cried. The only other times I can remember laughing so hard is 1976 New Year’s Eve when I was stuck at home watching It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. And the first Dave Barry column where he wrote of the confusion experienced by a man shopping for women’s clothing. And oh yeah, Chris Rock’s “Rock This” where I cried the whole plane trip from Cincinnati to Dallas.
I still say it’s TOP 10 MATERIAL.
Brilliant work Jim.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 05 23 at 07:12 PM • permalink
- #154 MentalFloss,
The less said about that dago midget the better.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 23 at 07:15 PM • permalink
- Click on the link for tuesday (right hand side, halfway down the page) to hear last night’s in-depth, probing and even interview with the Moonbat Madonna. Not one of her loopy claims were questioned- likewise on Ch 7 Sunrise this morning, where the Beaconsfield Buzzards even thought she had personally buttonholed John Howard in the US to demand the withdrawl of Diggers from the Middle East.
These media mongs are now utterly disconnected from reality- the door seals on studios must be too tight, and it’s causing oxygen starvation to their tiny minds.
Thanks to the constant plugs, the Ditch Witch is now known to more people than the previous audience of Green Left Weekly bongheads; unfortunately the newfound audience won’t give a fuck.
- It always ends in tears.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 07:25 PM • permalink
- Oooowwwww. Damn it! Who did that!
Mistriss Andrea? What the f—?
I broke the page? Well first of all —
(stands up to woman warrior, places hands on hips)
— I don’t know how I “broke the page”. I certainly did do anything I know of (says this with the same sarcasm used by teenage son who broke curfew last Saturday) to break it. And I don’t see any RUUULLLES posted that would tell me what not to do.
Secondly, maybe the fault lies not with ourselves but instead with the cheap shit bloggy software thingy you use. I mean you’re the software expert. I move lakes. I didn’t accuse you of breaking Lake Pontchartrain, did I?
Thirdly, I suspect a set up. I’m innocent I tell you. I say open your eyes, look at the rabble loitering over there and there. They have italics stuffed in their pant pockets, CAPS and bold stuffed down their brassieres. That can’t be a good thing.
Fourthly, you didn’t need to smack me on my tender rear end with that infernal paddle of yours. And when the hell did you get a paddle? I swear I have half a mind to go tell Karl on you.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 05 23 at 07:27 PM • permalink
#138 [I have removed the contents of this paragraph, which mostly consisted of a mile-long hyphenated construction that BROKE THE FUCKING PAGE AND MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO READ. For Christ’s sake, wronwright, I expected better of you. The (Disappointed) Managment.]
WHAAAAATTTTTTT? You stole my Monty Python quote? The one with hypens? Do you have any idea how long I looked for that quote? How long it took to type all that shit? With the hyphens?
Oh, oh, that’s criminal. That’s maybe communist. Even the Stasi snatching people in the middle of the night didn’t excise a Monty Python quote.
Ok, fine, fine. We can’t break the blog, right? So, here is my Monty Python quote, this time WITHOUT hyphens:
Mr. Figgis: Why is it the world never remembered the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfernschplenden schlitter crasscrenbon fried digger dangle dongle dungle burstein von knacker thrasher apple banger horowitz ticolensic grander knotty spelltinkle grandlich grumblemeyer spelterwasser kurstlich himbleeisen bahnwagen gutenabend bitte ein nürnburger bratwurstle gerspurten mit tzwei macheluber hundsfut gumberaber shoenendanker kalbsfleisch mittler aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm?”
Oh screw it. It’s completely different now. The hypens MADE the joke.
(suspects Andrea is playing some evil game with me, probably making the page break and using it as an excuse to ruin my perfect quote)
Posted by wronwright on 2006 05 23 at 07:48 PM • permalink
- #160 PW,
Your insight gives concrete definition to what it means when you believe that reality is subjective. They really do live in their own little world. The problem is that there are all these incursions by those who would upset their construct by introducing actual, factual Reality. They are unable to comprehend the metaphysics of an objective reality that doesn’t give a damn whether their constructs correspond to the facts of reality or not. They would do well to watch the film of Saddam crawling out of his spider hole, and to pay special attention to the stunned, disbelieving look in his eye. That’s what having to face reality looks like after ignoring it in all of your thinking about the world.
Nice bit of thinking, PW.
- The thing that really burns me about the people who call support fire for mother S (apart from her disrespect for her son’s life) is that the commercial media never asks or examines her true motives in all of this. She just gets to sputter her stuff and look sad and loss stricken for the cameras then after they move on “CLICK” the big goofy smile and a happy hop skip and jump to the hippy bus or aircraft seat to the next gig like a rock star. So who is paying for the rock star transport I wonder? What 5 star hotels does S sleep in? I bet she does not eat lentils for breakfast either and that the hotels pillows are firm and daisy fresh. And you need some spending money when you are on the road like that. Who is giving money to her to come to Australia? I bet she’ll be off on a tour of our fine land too soon. The money they charge to see her could not even cover the business class seat to get here. Perhaps if her support net can be exposed a bit she will appeal less to rational people. Her message and spoken word style is enough to keep most people away. But as others have said she is a flame in the media’s oxygen chamber, which is telling considering how crap her message is. That Chimpygayjewishcowboy OilvampireWarburton is evil and Iraq is a peatbog filled with casey’s blood. Well if you had time to check the news mother S then you would see that the media is getting desperate to rely on you to support their case for a quagmire. Iraq will go down in history like Germany, Japan and the USSR and people will marvel in wonder at how fast it all happened and how few people actually died to make it that way.
parting shot to dandrew
Before it declared war Germany never attacked the USA or even threatened to do so.
- Oooh… dead puppies. Who brought the Tabasco?
And once again the left demonstrates its overwhelming condescension, this time to the people of Australia: “Foolish provincials, if only you knew what was really going on LIKE WE DO of course you would leap to agree with our position! Yer just iggerint, is all…”
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 23 at 08:03 PM • permalink
- #172 And I will quote a Yaqui Shaman who once said to me as I was puking half digested peyote buttons into the Arizona desert:
“If the Great Coyote hadn’t meant man to eat pussy, he wouldn’t have made it look so much like a taco”
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 08:35 PM • permalink
Thirdly, I suspect a set up. I’m innocent I tell you. I say open your eyes, look at the rabble loitering over there and there.
That appears to be wronwrights 86 thru 119, all hitting a button in the upper right of the keyboard…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 23 at 08:59 PM • permalink
- Oops, sorry kae…my bad.
It’s a dark and lonely job, but somebody’s got to do it…
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 09:02 PM • permalink
- 164 “These media mongs are now utterly disconnected from reality – the door seals on studios must be too tight, and it’s causing oxygen starvation to their tiny minds.”
Well said, Habib. This same exclusion from reality saved the Sunrise team from penalties in their recent child-naming court case. The court deemed that they were only presenting what had been fed to them by their superiors, and therefore had no case to answer.
- Concur with PW, I had no problem reading it. Maybe wronwright made another trip in the Tardis while under the influence of that Sumerian meade, and doesn’t remember a visit to Microsoft HQ in the early years?Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 23 at 09:27 PM • permalink
- Say what? Eh?Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 23 at 09:34 PM • permalink
- O/T Speaking of strange people, Ivan Milat has been named as a person of interest in the investigation into the disappearance of two 19 year old nurses, Gillian Jamieson and Deborah Balken, last seen at the Tollgate Pub in Parramatta in 1980.
Having watched Wolf Creek on the weekend this was an interesting development.
My friend, Tanya, and I used to hitchhike from Campbelltown Railway Station to see her horse at Menangle Park, and later at Camden, in 1971/2. Usually on Sundays. Maybe Ivan didn’t collect his specimens on the weekend or we may have disappeared, too. We were only 14. (And usually we had local blokes who knew us and knew we would be there who picked us up.)
- Every time you use Internet Exploder, God smacks a cute widdle rabbit around a bit.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 05 23 at 10:07 PM • permalink
- #182- Wasn’t Wolf Creek shithouse? John Jarrett was about as convinving a sociopath bushie as this killer.
If that’s all it takes to cop a studio deal in Hollywood I’m in the wrong game- I’ve popped scarier things out of my bot.
- I don’t understand what the drama was about wolf creek, being a horror/sf fan I could’a told those people that something wasn’t right with Mick wotsisname. He was too, too, er, well, weird. He was annoying. I wanted to be scared, but I wasn’t. A friend said it was gory – it wasn’t. Scariest part was when they were sitting in the car after it had broken down at the crater – and you knew someone was out there, outside the car, but it was only the camera man.
I was scared in The Exorcist when I was 14. The bit where the mum hears the noise upstairs and starts to walk up the stairs (don’t go up the stairs, don’t go up the stairs; what’s wrong with these people, haven’t they ever read a book?…), the rest of that movie was shit too.
Notice how the ones who can escape always come back? Idiots. I’d be outta there like a shot, speshly if my life depended on it.
What’s scary is that Ivan Milat was working on the roads in NSW when Tanya and I used to hitchhike out of Campbelltown, and I understand serial killers don’t usually suddenly kill a few people and stop; now that’s scary!
And Milat’s brother had a property on the road to Wombeyan Caves, near Goodwin’s Ford. This is off the Hume Highway, which is the road that goes past the Belangalo Forest boundary.
How many other bodies are there in the forest? In other places?
- Kae- you might enjoy this bit of whimsy penned by Ron Barassi Hitler.
Didn’t Shackleton find several nice small rocks down that way?
I recommend Patrick O’Brian’s Desolation Island. There’s cabbage!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 24 at 01:08 AM • permalink
- Habib :
I’ve popped scarier things out of my bot.
If that’s the case, then – for rhetorical purposes – the bar’s higher than you require.Also, don’t know about the quality of the movie you mention, but that girl in it (who was also in Seachange, the brunette) is uber-hot! I’ve had a crush on her since I was 16. Anyone got her phone number?
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 05 24 at 04:43 AM • permalink
- 86 PW
ya know, sometimes I think the Left would prefer that the US had simply bombed all of Iraq into rubble, leaving no stone unturned and no Iraqi alive,
Well according to the precognitive and perspicacious St Cindy of the Ditch, that IS what the US simply did. Damn that US.
You wouldn’t dispute the word of a bereaved mother would you? WOULD YOU??Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 05 24 at 09:50 AM • permalink
- 105 Kodos
I certainly can be pretty obnoxious, but I did say that I’m nowhere near Sheehans biggest fan. I really was bummed when I heard she came down here. She truly is every bit as idiotic as the six more months crowd.
110
Oil production, I don’t know. I’ll take a look, see what I can find, and if I have to eat my words, then eat I shall.
151 Paco
Come to think of it, we haven’t heard back from the old fellow. You don’t suppose he choked on his own words do you?
I suppose he’s back at his native blogging grounds, wherever they are, whingeing about how he got his debate stifled, just when he seemed to be getting his first whiff of the coffee. And not completely without justification. I blame Wronwright, of course, for enraging our Dark Mistress. Bad, bad Wronwright.
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 05 24 at 10:15 AM • permalink
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…That way, you’ll have her shoes!
Anyway, I suspect many of her supporters don’t wear shoes.