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Hamas slams Fatah:

The Fatah movement continues to give a factional, political and media cover to the killers. Hamas has therefore decided to suspend all talks with Fatah.

And Fatah slams Hamas:

Hamas does not want a government of national unity. It’s not possible to have a dialogue with killers.

UPDATE. Pakistan’s Daily News reports:

Six students were injured in a row between two student organisations, the Islami Jamiat-e-Talba and Pakhtoon Students Federation, at the Dawood Engineering College of Science and Technology …

On Saturday morning, the students fought over a poster urging students not to fight on campus. According to reports, the fight was over who would put up the poster first. And what started as an exchange of hot words snowballed into a full-fledged fistfight following which, the students hurled classroom furniture at each other.

UPDATE II. Rather than stop his own people killing each other, a Palestinian psychotic kills three Israelis.

Posted by Tim B. on 01/28/2007 at 10:23 PM
    1. So no chance of a merger then- I’m rather taken with the idea of a FatHam Ahas in that neck of the woodsdesertified wasteland.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 01 28 at 10:29 PM • permalink



      Gee, who’d a thought such a thing could happen?

      But it isn’t a civil war.  Don’t call it a civil war, cause it’s not a civil war.  Not like in Iraq.  This is totally different than anything like a civil war.  Like the one in Iraq.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 01 28 at 10:35 PM • permalink


    1. As Henry Kissinger memorably said of another conflict between equally undesirable parties: “It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 01 28 at 10:36 PM • permalink


    1. This has all the makings of a killer local derby- what about some ideas for team nicknames, colours, mascots and cheers?

      I’ve come up with the Fatah Fedaykin, with a uniform made out of Yasser-style dishrags, mascots in the form of exploding grounded airliners, or rolls of cash wrapped in Swiss bank stationary, and a cheer of “Yassers Karked but We’re not Farked”!

      And how about the Hamas Sandwiches, uniform consisting of head-to-toe dayglo Syrian commando-style cammo, mascots who run onto the field of play and detonate their C4 belts (who needs to wait for a score or half-time for pyrotechnics), and a cheer of “We’re the Habibs of Hamas, We’re Here to Blow Up your Cars, You Pigs of Fatah Make Us Spew, We’ll Kill You Just Like A Jew”!

      I’d happily sit up for hours watching live coverage of this grudge match, even though the beer and popcorn bill would be astronomical.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 01 28 at 10:49 PM • permalink


    1. May they have a war, and I wish them both complete victory.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 01 28 at 10:50 PM • permalink


    1. This is actually really bad news, it means that Fatah and Hamas have finally found common ground.  The last thing we need now is for Jimmy Carter to show up and sit them down.

      Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 01 28 at 10:50 PM • permalink


    1. Funniest thing i ever read was over at some moonbat site where the commenters were genuinely stumped over where to pledge their allegiance.

      Moonbat 1;‘which side shall we support, Tarquin?’
      Moonbat 2; ‘i dont know Quinton.  i feel for them both in their struggle against the tyrannical Israeli dictatorship.
      Moonbat 3;‘i hear that the US hates Hamas slightly more than it hates Fatah’, Rosebud.
      Moonbat 4; ‘Really?  Thanks for the clarity Camilla.  ‘Hamas Hamas Hamas’
      All Moonbats; Give me an H, Give me an A…”  ad nauseum.

      Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 28 at 10:57 PM • permalink


    1. And thus the feeding frenzy intensifies…..

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 01 28 at 10:59 PM • permalink


    1. Reminds me of a joke. Two lawyers are in a courtroom at the beginning of a trial.

      1st lawyer: “You’re a dirty shyster, and before this trial is over, I’m going to show you up for the crooked ape you are.”

      2nd lawyer: “You’re a liar and a cheat!”

      Judge: “Now that learned counsel have identified each other, can we proceed with the trial?”

      Posted by paco on 2007 01 28 at 11:04 PM • permalink


    1. I say “to-MAY-to”,
      You say “to-MAH-to”,

      Let’s blow the whole thing up!

      Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 01 28 at 11:06 PM • permalink


    1. SAMAH v HATAF
      One backward lot agin the other backward lot.
      May the dumbest one lose.

      Which means no winner.

      Posted by waussie on 2007 01 28 at 11:07 PM • permalink


    1. Hamas slams Fatah.

      And Fatah slams Hamas.

      Isn’t that called a circular argument? How about a game of musical chairs? First one to shit sit on a chair wins.

      Posted by ElectronPower on 2007 01 28 at 11:14 PM • permalink


    1. Hey, maybe if someone could get both sides to follow the same religion, they would discover a common ground and, like…you know….accept each other.

      Posted by rinardman on 2007 01 28 at 11:15 PM • permalink


    1. Seal the borders, ship in more guns.

      Posted by 68W40 on 2007 01 28 at 11:17 PM • permalink


    1. #6

      This is actually really bad news, it means that Fatah and Hamas have finally found common ground.

      If one follows Middle Eastern politics, it soon becomes apparent that Arabs generally cannot agree on anything at all, except one thing: They hate the Jews. On that, they all agree and then continue fighting each other.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 01 28 at 11:23 PM • permalink


    1. While they are fighting each other, they are leaving someone else alone. A divided enemy is an easy enemy. Please continue.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 01 28 at 11:26 PM • permalink


    1. Seal the borders, ship in more guns.

      To refine the suggestion: Seal the borders, with elbow-to-elbow troops if necessary. Send hourly C130 flights dropping supplies of AKs, ammo, grenades, and other small arms—nothing larger than an RPG.

      Continue until all is quiet in the area. When it is, the troops cordoning off the area go in,  and capture and execute the survivors as war criminals. Auction the land off to multinationals as sites for chemical factories to defray the costs of the operation.

      Repeat as needed. Probably not more than twice.


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2007 01 29 at 12:03 AM • permalink


    1. It’s all good.

      Saddest day of my life so war was the day they ended the Iran-Iraq war

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 01 29 at 12:05 AM • permalink


    1. Hey, Hamas!  Hey, Fatah!  Let’s you and him fight!

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 29 at 12:07 AM • permalink


    1. A crowd favorite in the Coliseum was when two gladiators were leashed together and both given a sword and a club. On command, they were instructed, oh hell, you get the idea…

      Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 29 at 12:19 AM • permalink


    1. It’s like the kot calling the pettle lbakc.

      I think.

      I’m so confused.

      Posted by rick mcginnis on 2007 01 29 at 12:24 AM • permalink


    1. O/T episode 2 of Moonbat Alpha. As good here as anywhere…

      The MOONBAT family are at the Channon Markets in the hills west of Byron Bay. BURNTOUT MOONBAT (father) is with PEACEFREAK MOONBAT (son) and PRISSY MOONBAT (daughter)BURNTOUT MOONBAT is studying the display at one of the market stalls.


      Uh huh. Uh huh. So when you gonna withdraw from the West Bank? What you’re doing to the Palestinians is wrong, man. It’s just wrong.


      Dad, they’re Raelians.




      Raelians. They believe people were created and brought to Earth by aliens. Maybe you should buy one of their books.


      Sure. But like, I’m not paying by credit card. That information goes straight to the American government.

      FRUITY MOONBAT (mother) arrives from a nearby stall

      Oh, I love the markets! I love the markets! Look what I bought!


      What is it, Mummy?


      It’s fairy dust! Real fairy dust, darling! From Fern Gully! (reads from label) ‘When the dawniest dawn sparkles on a solstice morning in the rainiest rainforest, we gather the purest magicalest droplets of twinklingy fairy dew from the greeniest moistiestest leaves –


      Can we sprinkle it on our crystals?


      Sure we can. We’ll sprinkle it on all our crystals. Then we’ll plant them under our special fairy tree….oh, it’ll be wonderful. What have you bought Burntout? A CD?


      Yeah, isn’t this cool? Laurie Anderson. I used to dig her stuff so much. You will too, Peacefreak. It’s like, really allegorical. Here commmme the plannnnnnnes—


      I’m a Defender of Gaia now, Dad. We don’t listen to any of that stuff. We only listen to hardcore. But we’re non-violent and vegetarian.


      Uh huh. Uh huh. A Defender of Gaia, eh? Wow. When did this happen?




      Hey, that’s….I’m so proud of you! So you’re like, restoring the cosmic balance? In harmony with nature? I can handle that.


      Currently we’re stockpiling anti-tank weapons.




      We have to smash the system, Dad. There’s only ten years before the cataclysm. Millions must die.


      Prissy! Look Prissy! The fairy dust! It’s twinkling! Make a wish!


      I’m scared Mummy


      No Prissy. Don’t be scared. When the dawniest dawn sparkles on a solstice morning in the rainiest rainforest, that’s when the fairies leave their magical droplets of dew! And look! It’s right here!


      We take over the dams and the reservoirs. We defend them long enough to put sterilization tablets in the water. We don’t care if we die.


      Uh huh. Uh huh. I mean that’s…..that’s kind of Zen. In a David Duke sort of way. Is it non-violent, though? You know, Maharaji…… Gandhi……Castenada……Jonathan Livingston Seagull….


      Fuck them.


      Oh….oh……male energy…..male energy…..feng shui….. satyagraha…..ikebana…..lalalala


      Man. That’s heavy. Fuck Gandhi? Fuck Jonathan Livingston Seagull? That’s too much.


      You’re either for us or against us, Dad. You have to decide.

      Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 29 at 12:24 AM • permalink


    1. “It’s not possible to have a dialogue with killers.”

      Way to go FATAS, you just crapped all over the Carter Doctrine.

      Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 01 29 at 12:34 AM • permalink


    1. #10
      Anything you can do,
      I can do better.
      I can do anything
      Better than you.

      No, you can’t.
      Yes, I can. No, you can’t.
      Yes, I can. No, you can’t.
      Yes, I can,
      Yes, I can!

      Anything you can be
      I can be greater.
      Sooner or later,
      I’m greater than you.

      No, you’re not. Yes, I am.
      No, you’re not. Yes, I am.
      No, you’re NOT!. Yes, I am.
      Yes, I am!

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 29 at 12:57 AM • permalink


    1. Surely the dark hand of Mossad and the CIA is behind this quagmire. No other villians exist.

      Posted by Penguin on 2007 01 29 at 01:01 AM • permalink


    1. #1 I was thinking the same thing, although I was thinking more along the lines of the FatAhss party

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2007 01 29 at 01:08 AM • permalink


    1. And who knows, maybe Mikey Moore could give them some input

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2007 01 29 at 01:11 AM • permalink


    1. Hamas slams Fatah: Fatah slams Hamas

      Awwww, someone needs a hug!

      Posted by bondo on 2007 01 29 at 01:24 AM • permalink


    1. O/T but did you catch the Pilger article in

      The Guardian last week.

      He doesn’t much like Aussies does he..

      Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 29 at 01:25 AM • permalink


    1. I saw the biggest moron in today’s The Australian. A stomach turning photo: an Orthodox Jew, kissing the Iranian president; you see, he’s a Jew, but he’s against the existence of Israel.

      Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 01 29 at 01:46 AM • permalink


    1. priceless. and these are the people who want their own state.  the national flag would have to be crossed swords beneath 2 severed heads with towels on.  still, as BJM says, it diverts their attention from killing jooooooooos

      Posted by KK on 2007 01 29 at 02:09 AM • permalink


    1. #3 cuckoo

      As Henry Kissinger memorably said of another conflict between equally undesirable parties: “It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”

      I do believe the Reagan Administration took it to heart and tried to facilitate that very thing during the Iran-Iraq War. (Which is what Kissinger was referring to, wasn’t it?)

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 29 at 02:17 AM • permalink


    1. Tweedledum and Tweedledumber
      Agreed to have a racket
      For Tweedledum said Tweedledumber
      Had spoiled his suicide jacket
      Just then arrived a chap from Iran
      Contextual as a commo
      Blessed both of them with the koran
      And killed them dead – kerblammo

      Posted by KK on 2007 01 29 at 02:35 AM • permalink


    1. KK. Now you’re just showing off!
      Excellent work though.

      Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 01 29 at 02:43 AM • permalink


    1. Dawood Engineering College of Science and Technology

      So is this the David Hicks Memorial University??

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 01 29 at 02:53 AM • permalink


    1. #29 pommygranaate
      I’d heard about the Pilger article but never read it. What a shocking piece.
      The man is so full of self loathing that it’s difficult to see how he survives each day. Sad. Stupid. Fixated on paranoid demons.

      I think some of the spear carriers for the Left really are in ugent need of psychiatric help. Adams and Leunig included. Very sad.

      Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 29 at 03:02 AM • permalink


    1. Aaah, fun times!

      Time to sit in front of the teev with a cold beer and a ham sandwich and cheer on the paleosimian civil war and the squealing of the leftards.

      Posted by MarkL on 2007 01 29 at 03:04 AM • permalink


    1. Yes folks,welcome back to todays match of fatah v hamas..Both teams just warming up out there with a bit of isralie flag burning……Aaaaand the kick off,wow look at that head soar..

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 01 29 at 03:16 AM • permalink


    1. Welcome back veiwers as we come out from our third prayer break,…back into it as habib from hamas makes a break into fatah teritory ..wait..wait a minute i think we have a premuture detenation…yes habib has exploded..lets cross down to jerry on the sideline,you there jerry.

      Yes bob it looks like habib was using a dodgey old washing machine timer that was set to fast cycle, thats going to be a foul.back to you bob.

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 01 29 at 03:31 AM • permalink


    1. pass the popcorn…

      Posted by captain on 2007 01 29 at 03:51 AM • permalink


    1. Ah, the ‘religion of peace’ only they could start a fight over putting up the ‘lets not fight’ posters…

      Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 01 29 at 03:53 AM • permalink


    1. Thanks jerry and speaking of washing,a word from todays sponsor IRANiROCK when you need to wash away the blood of an infidel in a hurry use an IRANiROCK,soap it up and slap it down hard,located on most middle eastern river banks.

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 01 29 at 03:54 AM • permalink


    1. Yes it looks like Fatah is going to get a penalty..hmmm it looks like the ref can’t make up his mind,yes referee Mr U.N has a very concerned look on his face..We if you ask me it should be a penalty shootout awarded to fatah,what do you think jerry.

      I think so bob,fatah thinks so to as they are in the procese of warming up the AK’s

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 01 29 at 04:10 AM • permalink


    1. #30 Honkie Hammer

      I saw the biggest moron in today’s The Australian. A stomach turning photo: an Orthodox Jew, kissing the Iranian president; you see, he’s a Jew, but he’s against the existence of Israel

      That would have been this photo. Right?


      I see no Jew.


      Posted by geoff on 2007 01 29 at 05:07 AM • permalink


    1. Pilger has always been a lefty rodent, even in the eightees, when I started keeping track of this disaffected propaganda artist. His love for Whitlam is almost. . .well, whatever. He is not what I would call credible. He insults this country overseas, like a certain Sheik, that he probably admires, then comes to a little bookshop in Eltham, and for $10, you can hear his, ‘limo lefty’ rantings. If, as he thinks he is, ‘the doyen of the latte left’, then why does he not do his readings in a more central part of Melbourne. Or in the Aboriginal communities, making a sizable donation while he is there. Then he could do a reading tour of Lakemba, after taking in La Trobe University et el. Then he will see just how xenophobic Australia really is. Finally, he could close his tour at Guantanamo Bay, a personal reading for Momaad Daewood, (still can’t get that tools name right), then back at La Trobe University for a massive love in with all the other weird moonbat Australia hating freaks. Then when he leaves this ‘evil’ nation, take that lefty imported editor Jaspen with him and let him be a copy boy for the Guardian. Nobody ever used take much notice of a pissed copy boy. So Pilger, sod off, you third rate hack.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 01 29 at 06:04 AM • permalink


    1. Great game going on here today jerry,time to cross over to some game updates,the sunni v shia match in iraq is still going strong.

      Any news on Hezbollah bob..

      Well jerry they have not been seen since that crazy match some months ago,i’ve never seen any thing like it,Hezbollah left the field in front of a pumped and fired up Isralie team and hid in the stands behind the supporters and still lost the match.

      Crazy suff jerry.

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 01 29 at 06:08 AM • permalink


    1. It’s like watching two seagulls fighting over a dead blowfish.  The winner isn’t going to be terribly impressed.

      Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 29 at 07:59 AM • permalink


    1. #43 Referee can’t make up his mind?
      Players please repeat the point.

      Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 01 29 at 08:01 AM • permalink


    1. Ham ass slams Fat ah, ah wonderful

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 01 29 at 08:09 AM • permalink


    1. #10. You say OO-mah and I say AH-mah

      Posted by Brett_McS on 2007 01 29 at 08:47 AM • permalink


    1. Keep goin, Sparrow, I can’t wait to see the final score.

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 01 29 at 10:03 AM • permalink


    1. #4: Terrific idea, Habib! And there’s a fortune to be made in the concessions for penants, t-shirts, jerseys and posters.

      Posted by paco on 2007 01 29 at 10:09 AM • permalink


    1. Pssst, Hamas, I heard Fatah calling you a wussy yesterday.

      Hey, Fatah, Hamas has been sleeping with your wife.

      Posted by rbj1 on 2007 01 29 at 10:39 AM • permalink


    1. #53
      Don’t tell Fatah that rb1.  They’ll just shoot her in an “honor killing” and hide from Hamas.

      Palestinian Arabs shooting at each other will require them to develop new tactics, since they won’t be able to use the ones they use against the Israelis against each other.  For example, the Israelis try hard not to kill civilians, so the Arabs can hide behind civilians and shoot at the Israelis certain in the knowledge that the latter won’t just gun down their human shileds, like those women a few weeks ago who covered the escape of the terrorist bigshots holed up in a mosque from the Israelis.  Their brother Arabs will just massacre the lot.  “Let Allah sort them out.”

      The more these contemptible scum kill each other the better off the civilized world will be.

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 01 29 at 08:46 PM • permalink


    1. No grim-voiced report on ABC TV’s main news bulletin about this weekend’s 20 plus Palestinian dead.

      I guess they weren’t killed by the right ‘villains’. No gleeful talk of civil war there either!
      Same goes for the Lebanese killed in recent violence in that country too!

      Posted by Brian on 2007 01 29 at 09:53 PM • permalink


    1. “It’s not possible to have a dialogue with killers.”

      LOL…FINALLY they identify with Israel!

      From their mouths to indymedia’s ears…

      Posted by carpefraise on 2007 01 29 at 11:40 PM • permalink


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