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Andrew Bolt on David Hicks:
He was caught fighting for a regime that still fields an army that two weeks ago shot one of our soldiers. He was caught serving with a terrorist group behind attacks in which more than 100 of our civilians have died.
Sounds about right. But the man himself insists otherwise:
An Australian held at Guantanamo Bay for more than four years has written a pleading letter to Prime Minister John Howard, insisting he is a “true blue Aussie” and not evil …
“I am determined to fit back into society and be a model citizen,” Hicks writes in the letter, a copy of which was obtained today by AFP.
“I am not an evil person or a risk to the Australian public and it saddens me that some may think so …
“I like to think of myself as a true blue Aussie. Australia is in my heart and forever will be.”
Previous correspondence from good old Jew-hatin’ Aussie Dave is detailed here.
UPDATE. USS Neverdock:
Interestingly, when he was training in Pakistan and Afghanistan Hicks wanted to ensure “the Western-Jewish domination is finished, so we live under Muslim law again”.
He’s in Guantanamo and now suddenly wants to be an Aussie again. Imagine that.
- My all time favourite quote from Tex on WhackingDay, a year or three ago: “Fuck David Hicks!”Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 07 07 at 02:51 AM • permalink
- David Hicks, would-be British citizen. David Hicks, true-blue Aussie.
Collect the whole set, kids!Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 07 07 at 02:58 AM • permalink
- There’s an interesting use of tense here:
AN Australian held at Guantanamo Bay for more than four years has written a pleading letter to Prime Minister John Howard, insisting he is a “true blue Aussie” and not evil…
…His lawyer David McLeod said Friday that Mr Howard had not responded, or even acknowledged the letter, written on January 21, 2005.
The fact that this occured 18 months ago seems to suggest that ‘wrote’ would be more appropriate than ‘has written’. I think it’s pretty safe to say that the act of writing is over, and the Prime Minister isn’t planning to reply. But then that wouldn’t be quite so newsy, would it?
Tsk tsk, and The Australian is usually so sensible…
Posted by blandwagon on 2006 07 07 at 03:31 AM • permalink
- It saddens me to say that I would make a terrible soldier. If I saw one of my countrymen fighting for the enemy, he would be killed in action, regardless of whether he was trying to surrender, not captured and sent to Gitmo. Everybody wins: terrorist gets martyrdom and the politicians don’t have to endure a PR nightmare.
Hmm, not a risk to the Australian public…so tell me, why was he carrying the RPG around?
The best way for Hicks to be released is for Al Qaida and the Taliban to unconditionally surrender. Isn’t it true that PoWs are held until the end of the conflict?
Posted by Matthew Lawrence on 2006 07 07 at 03:33 AM • permalink
- I was watching some story about him the other day, i think it was on SBS news, and i noted to myself that you never see that pic of him with the rocket launcher and the two other @ssholes anymore… its usually now some pic of him in a jumper with a nice smile on his face looking positively cherubic that accompanies any stories on how unjustly he’s being treated…
to the many ignorant, forgetful people out there with limited attention spans, that former damning piece of evidence of his inclinations and affiliations could well be forgotten by now…
and if his former true blue aussie mindset was completely at ease with going overseas to get mixed up in other peoples problems and training with relatively fresh faced, fanatical nutcases, can you imagine how much he has gained by being locked away with hard-core, homocidal maniacs at Gitmo who hate our guts for 4 years???
he may fit back in at places in the suburb of Lakemba, but thats about it i’d say…
- hmmm, sorry for his dad…. whats the saying about the acorn doen’t fall far from the tree…..
i don’t know his dad enough to judge whether david is a total aberration or just a chip of the old block… so can’t say i am in a position to feel terribly sorry for him at present….
sometimes people come up with that jewish world conspiracy stuff all on their own, other times its well and truly inculcated from birth…. and waiting for an opportunity to find expression….
- #6.
I agree with you casanova about the pics chosen by the media (all the media). They have recently come up with an even more beguiling one which shows Hicks in a family group (I think holding a chld). They would, I’m sure, argue that these photos are non-prejudicial but since he has admitted to active envolvement in fighting, I don’t see the problem with photos showing him with weapons. There’s another agenda.
- yep chris, i would suggest balance might dictate showing both… i don’t suggest railroading him with solely the RPG pic everytime, but they sometimes show two or three pics and they are all of the cuddly-wuddly variety these days…
hell Charles Manson probably has some… ok maybe 1…. semi-normal…. pic of him from some period in his life, but to only show that one would be a bit misleading of what that fruitcake is really like eh….
it never hurts to have, and show, the facts then maybe the grown ups can make up their own minds about the issue….
- Hicks, the poor snivelling “True Blue Aussie”, was quite prepared to shoot Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.
His plea has touched my heart.
Please bring him home and turn him loose at Holsworthy or Townsville Army barracks.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 07 at 04:57 AM • permalink
- What did he call himself in Afghanistan? i think it was mohammed Dawood or something. Can someone let me know if Im mistaken.
How come the news refers to maddonna instead of Ms Ritchie, and poor David isnt called Mohammed?
Once again its one rule for the wealthy superstars and another for the terrorist scum…..(I havent heard him called by that name on TV for years now, why?)Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 07 at 05:40 AM • permalink
- Geez, will someone just tell me what a person has to do nowadays to be a traitor to one’s country? Apparently one can be in battle, on the enemy’s side, aiming to kill one’s countrymen; publish state secrets–secrets that have previously trapped some of the enemy; and verbalize the desire for one’s country to lose, disastrously.
Have I missed anything?
- #14 Very close, tfm. Andrew Bolt quotes this from the charge sheet on Hicks:
David Matthew Hicks (a/k/a Abu Muslim al Austraili a/k/a Muhammed Dawood) . . . on or about May 1999 . . . travelled to Tirana, Albania and joined the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a paramilitary organisation fighting on behalf of Albanian Muslims. Hicks completed basic military training at a KLA camp and engaged in hostile action . . .
That’s just the start of very interesting career with the Muslims. Read on.
- #6 Casanova, I have been having the same thoughts about the Hix pix used by the media lately.
Had to go back to July 2003 for this CBS News picture the little darling and the bazooka. Perhaps you guys out there that are familiar with the weapon can tell us whether he looks like he has been trained to use it.
- #18,
Not familiar with it myself, but I hear amateurs sometimes forget to pull the pin before firing.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 07 07 at 07:57 AM • permalink
- Oh, come on, people, all David Hicks did was join Al Qaeda. Why that’s almost as romantic as running away to join the Foreign Legion or the Lincoln Brigade for real ‘progressives’ these days.
Skeeter, Daniel San — I don’t think that RPG is even loaded in that photo… But I always extend the ground bipod on any weapon when I’m using a standing firing stance. Yep.
There are cases (one each) of Pali fighters trying to fire RPG’s from inside a van.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 07 at 09:53 AM • permalink
- SOP, unfortunately. The homeboy discovers that being a terrorist isn’t all that romantic when his life is draining away behind bars, and starts mewling about how it was all a tragic misunderstanding, and he’d really like to go home now. The same thing is happening with our own John Walker Lindh and his dad.
- True blue Aussies don’t go to Afghanistan to fight with the Taleban … none that I know of do … true blue Aussies are fair dinkum and patriotic … Hicks doesn’t pass the test … I’m saddened that people fall for this late appeal together with some media supporting his argument … I thought there are laws in Australia that prohibit fighting for foreign non regular forces … here’s a true blue Aussie I’ve marched the Colours past and admired … Sir Roden Cutler … take your pick …
- Hix had two kids didn’t he when he was younger..
The media practically orders us to get out in the street and beg the U.S. to give him up but Aussies aren’t that stupid.
We know rubbish when we see it.. and the father is no better.No one minds a father sticking up for his son but that guy is a real showman,stunt man,media whore.
- Gosh, I dunno, he sounds rehabilitated to me. Are you sure you don’t want him back?Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 07 07 at 12:32 PM • permalink
- Speaking of sad people, our spelling-challenged (“anonynmous”) new buddy Nick Dyrenfurth feels a little sad and personally offended by the suggestion that Communism and Nazism are functionally equivalent here, at the tail end of the previous thread.
Maybe he’ll figure it out once he gets out of the ivory tower. If he does.
- Yep, acorn, tree, all of that. Dad says that little Hick’s anti-semitism is, and I quote, “innocent”. The little guy ate a bad french fry or something.
You’ve got to wonder about these honor-bound he-man jihadist martyrs that start yelling never mind when things don’t end up quite the way they thought. You know, with the defeat of their own country, by their own hand? Jihadi John started back-peddling right away. You could almost have some kind of respect if they stuck to their guns (pardon me), but they are such little whiney-asses.
Members of my family have been career military since the civil war. I sometimes think I hear them asking me why these people are still breathing. It is one thing to say it’s not your daddy’s Navy, but this “sensitive” war we’re waging is almost beyond comprehension. I know my dad would wonder what we’re about. He thought what happened in Korea was an outrage we would pay for down the road. And guess what….
- Hicks is not the problem.
It is the media.
Of the worst is SBS- the one that “unapologetically” showed that film.
The same SBS who regarded a few trueful remarks from Die Spiegel re World Cup, as “offensive.”
Well you’d know you SBS wankers, what “offensive” to real people really means. Bit like your coverage of the football.
Anyone who feel asleep during the football and allowed SBS programming to run into their usual crap would have needed a vomit bucket beside them. As for those who called something a “beautiful” game, I suppose you are now lining up outside all those public toilets on the poof Internet site.
- continue. Korea, ex-Yugoslavia, Palestine, among others. the few results it has achieved have been after one side or the other has been defeated militarily and is looking for an “out” that doesnt involve their necks being streched.
No better examples exist than Korea and Palestine/greater Syria.
Both are effectively welfare states, kept afloat only by donations from the “decadent west”. Both are effectively armed camps, where the regular (Korea) and irregular (palestine) troops outnumber the productive sections of society.
The UN calls for aid to stave off “humanitarian crisis” and effectively subsidises regimes that violate the lives and rights of millions of their own and negbouring peoples.
STOP subsidising despots.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 07 at 08:11 PM • permalink
- Bugger cut off half my post!
Basicly how the UN subsidises whole welfare states and allows abuses and despots to continue in power.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 07 at 08:15 PM • permalink
- Thanks PW. Love it when the sad little twerps get all teary.Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 07 at 08:37 PM • permalink
- #38 Andjam
At least he seems to be saying in this letter that “my jihad is over”. Whether that’s true is a different matter but …
It is very important that you all understand, the Islamic concept of “Hudna”.
Honest Reporting has a good definition of the Arab/Muslim concept of hudna:
Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam.In essence, Hudna is religious license to renege on ones word (lie), and regroup, rearm, and reorganise to attack when one’s enemy is lulled into thinking that one will be honest and fulfil one’s side of a truce. This tactic has been used over and over in Islam’s history, including by Yasser Arafat, Hamas, al-Aqsa, and other Islamic terrorists all over the world. Recent examples (besides Palestinians) include Fallujah and Najaf. What Westerners need to do is to read Islamic scripture and learn that in Islam there is no concept of permanent submission to any other power than Allah’s. Treaties mean nothing.
Beware the hudna. Beware the enemy. Beware Hicks.
- that pic of hicks with his kid is particularly nauseating – he thought nothing of deserting the poor little mite to go off on a fanatical frolic with his taliban mates
hicks’ father is a full on self-publicising nutter – has posed in a cage on the streets of new york to awaken people to the plight of his poor misunderstood ickle boy, & is on the tv every week blathering about how hardly done by the treacherous little rat is
like every parent of a hitman, drug dealer or terrorist says, “he’s a good boy, really”
- If you put the best possible spin on his story, he travelled half way around the world to oppress women and destroy cultural diversity.
I think its safe to say we don’t want him back in Aust and the poms don’t seem keen on getting him either.
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 07 08 at 02:03 AM • permalink
- David gives Hicks a bad name. He is a true blue traitor to not only Australia but the essence of our civilised existence. Let him back into Australia so someone can give him a kicking, Doggydoo Habib has not had his smacking yet, he would reclaim his disabled pension in a flash. Although I believe he was seen at Coogee beach last summer.
- OK, let’s just say, for the sake of arguement, that Hicks isn’t a terrorist (yea right!).
He’s was an Aussie Citizen fighting for the government of a foreign power. Doesn’t that make him a mercenary? As far as I can tell, under the Geneva Convention, mercenaries not only have no right to be legitimate combatants, but they have no right to the rights of a legitimate combatant.
The Geneva Convention doesn’t apply to David Hicks or any other Aussie (or whomever) who decides to sell their soul to a foreign power for money or an ideology.
Please tell me if this is different now, but I don’t think it is.
David Hicks is a mercenary and a traitor at the very least; and a terrorist at the very worst.
No Geneva Convention rights for traitors!
Posted by CyborgGarfield on 2006 07 08 at 09:43 AM • permalink
- You realize even ten years ago the press would be getting away with this?Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 08 at 02:16 PM • permalink
- I’ve asked about a dozen people for their opinion on Hick’s “plight” including hardline lefties, legalists and a Muslim. None of them expressed any sympathy for him. I can’t think of another single example of the Australian media being so out of touch with public opinion.
Andrew Bolt’s comparison of Hicks with an SS volunteer brings to mind the 2nd episode of “Band of Brothers”. If you haven’t seen it I won’t spoil it for you, just use your imagination.
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