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An excellent round-up of the Kennedy Airport bomb plot arrests from Guyana’s Stabroek News:
Those charged with [Adbul] Kadir are former JFK worker Russell Defreitas, a Guyanese-born US citizen; Kareem Ibrahim, an imam from Trinidad; and Guyanese Abdel Nur. Kadir and Ibrahim were arrested in Trinidad, while Defreitas was held in New York. Up to press time, however, Nur had not been apprehended and was thought to be still at large in Trinidad.
Trinidad is only the size of Rhode Island. Trinidadian reaction here; see also reports from the NY Post and London Times.
UPDATE. From the above link, some interesting background on one of the alleged plotters:
Kadir was a member of the PNC’s Young Socialist Movement … he said that Eusi Kwayana of Ascria had influenced him in the direction of developing a certain scholarship to understand the socialist principles to go beyond situations as they appeared on the surface … he had also been influenced by the writings of Walter Rodney, Kwame Nkrumah, Eldridge Cleaver and Malcolm X.
He was attempting to fly to Venezuela when he was arrested.
UPDATE II. Trinidad speaks out:
“Good going FBI. These terrorist dont understand the meaning of life they only understand death and destruction. Radical Islam is a stain on the face of the Earth and I support all efforts to have that stain wiped off the face of the Earth”
“my heart goes out to the poor people of my country … dont worry trini we will rise together through these times forge from the love of liberty ,let truth and justice take its course” – british soldier london
“Why would anyone want to spoil trinidad as a beautiufull country.And to link us it with other horrbile counries. It was a shock to hear what our people did.Shane on them.” – 12 year old Alexis
“It makes me sick to my stomach every time I hear Trinidad mentioned on the news. I never imagined that our country would be named in the same breath as terroist!” – trini in america.
“As a Trinidadian and a Us Citizen and Also serving in the US Army this sickens me, that a Trinidadian will belief all this radical stupidness. We caribbean people already deal with so much here now these idiots but another barrier in our way.”
“I know that Trinidad is a nice place and just a few bad apples like every other place but the FBI do a very good job in taking care of those bad apples and may the good Lord bless them hats off to the FBI keep up the good work”
“what has my beloved country come to ? everybody knows who these trouble – makers are and we all know when these radicals started their mischeif and when it could have been put to an end ! no law abiding citizen will ask questions – we just want to be rid of them and their extremist actions – robbing , murdering , kidnapping and now terror plots to bomb another country that has done nothing to us . the normal and true muslims of T & T and the world at large should have a much bigger voice denouncing the actins of all these radicals !! but instead we hardly hear anything from them”
“These perpetrators would now see the hands of American justice meted out to them. It may be long before they get the verdict they truly deserve but, have they played with a sleeping giant. These muslims fanatics are trying in so many ways to cause destruction to others because of their selfishness. They would never succeed however.”
“Why is it that since 9/11 only people from the religion of Islam are being accused of either plotting or being responsible for terrorist attacks? What is it about that religion that makes some of its followers so prone to such violence?”
UPDATE III. “Pops is a real community leader.”
- And no doubt they’re all bloody Presbyterians.Posted by Lew on 2007 06 03 at 08:08 PM • permalink
- We must not judge people by their religion. So says the MSM. Who are we to disagree? If we disagree the peace makers will kill us.Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 06 03 at 08:23 PM • permalink
- As I pointed out late in the thread of an earlier post, when I first heard about the “Kennedy Terror Plot”, I was hoping that they had finally collared Ted.
I believe three of these creeps were illegal aliens who had been in the U.S. for years. This is, I think, probably the biggest problem people have with “regularizing the status” of illegal immigrants (i.e., “amnesty”): the complete absence of a serious plan to control the flow of illegal immigrants, going forward. This matter is not any longer just about economics and cultural assimilation, but about domestic security and terrorism.
- RebeccaH, RebeccaH, RebeccaH, I’m sure you meant to say “with no hole in the floor for a toilet.”Posted by ElectronPower on 2007 06 03 at 09:24 PM • permalink
RebeccaH, RebeccaH, RebeccaH, I’m sure you meant to say “with no hole in the floor for a toilet.”
How about “in cells stacked one atop the other, with nothing but a hole in the floor for a toilet”? The one who tells us the most gets the upper cell.
The Blind Sheik who was involved with the ‘93 WTC attack gets the bottom cell.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 06 03 at 09:34 PM • permalink
- Pre 9-11, the idea of flying a passenger-filled plane into a skyscraper was also “outlandish”. Pre Manhattan Project, the idea of one single plane carrying one single bomb being able to kill a few hundred thousand people was, once again, “outlandish”.
In this day and age, I’m not willing to base my safety as concerns Muslim death wishes on what is outlandish and what is not outlandish. If they are plotting to kill, then they go to jail.
- #8: Averted disasters just don’t have the “oomph!” of disasters carried all the way to their grisly fruition; not nearly as good copy as smoking ruins with thousands of dead bodies. So the press (some of it, anyway, like this genius at The Age) turns the plan into a mere caricature of terrorism, and invites us to snicker at the federal agents who, presumably, have been sweltering in a surveillance van somewhere, listening to this plotter say things like, “Hey, mon, who goin’ to plant de dynamite?’, and this plotter say, “Hey, not me, mon, dot’s some dangerous shit. By de way, can you remember to stop off at de market and buy some Pic-a-Peppa sauce?” No thanks to the cops for doing their job, no sigh of relief at being spared an act of terrorism, just snide jabs. Ernie Pyle this guy ain’t.
- Plus, according to the ABC (funded nby you), it wasn’t a bomb plot at all.
It was only a ‘bomb plot’.
Where would left-wing media be without inverted commas?
- #8 Regarding the Aged.
I’m sure if the authoritites had moved in any time under 18 months there would be bleating all round about how we need more evidence.
The only thing the tards will accept is a big smoking crater a la 9/11.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 03 at 10:38 PM • permalink
- #7 Oh, that’s the condominium version of the Pooh-Activated Cell Orifice®. PACO® for all of your Third World prison sanitary needs. That’s PACO®: number one for number two since 2001.Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 03 at 10:55 PM • permalink
- “he had also been influenced by the writings of Walter Rodney, Kwame Nkrumah, Eldridge Cleaver and Malcolm X.”
Preparing an insanity defense, are we?
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 03 at 11:22 PM • permalink
- After reading Tim’s update, I’m raising a glass to the good people of Trinidad. Can we transport all our moonbats and other assorted refuse to the middle of the Arctic somewhere (tell them that their help is needed for a polar bear survey) and replace them with folks like these?Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 06 03 at 11:29 PM • permalink
- “Why is it that since 9/11 only people from the religion of Islam are being accused of either plotting or being responsible for terrorist attacks? What is it about that religion that makes some of its followers so prone to such violence?”
Well honey, whoever you are, literalism has unfortunately been mainstream in Islam for many centuries. And these maniacs believe in killing all the infidels. It is in their book and they carry it out. That is why so many of them do it.
There are no ‘root causes’ sweetheart. It is just plain evil.
Posted by The Best Infidel on 2007 06 03 at 11:33 PM • permalink
- “Trinidad speaks out:”
I read all the comments and if that’s a reflection of what the population of T & T thinks, then I’d rather have them as allies than ANY country in Europe…no matter how weak they are.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 03 at 11:35 PM • permalink
- “After reading Tim’s update, I’m raising a glass to the good people of Trinidad. Can we transport all our moonbats and other assorted refuse to the middle of the Arctic somewhere (tell them that their help is needed for a polar bear survey) and replace them with folks like these?”
Copy that.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 03 at 11:36 PM • permalink
“What is it about that religion that makes some of its followers so prone to such violence?”
An excellent question that the MSM and PC politicians all ignore.
The answer? Islam is not the “religion of peace”, it’s the “religion of pieces”….of infidels.
Note to Muslims outraged by my statement: prove it wrong. Prove. It. Wrong. By action, not words. You can start by booting the Catmeat Imam and his ilk out of a job.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 03 at 11:38 PM • permalink
“Why is it that since 9/11 only people from the religion of Islam are being accused of either plotting or being responsible for terrorist attacks? What is it about that religion that makes some of its followers so prone to such violence?”
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 03 at 11:48 PM • permalink
- I have a friend from Trinidad. Interesting place. She’s of Indian background and Hindu.
Long time before Sept. 11, 2001, she was very angry at Saudi money being used to subvert her country.
Posted by Harry Eagar on 2007 06 03 at 11:52 PM • permalink
Not only was the idea outlandish and highly unlikely to succeed…
Highjacking civilian airliners and flying them into buildings seemed pretty outlandish and highly unlikely to succeed before 9/11.
When did newsies get so stupid?
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 03 at 11:55 PM • permalink
- #27 That reminds me of my bus trip, Harry.Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 04 at 12:11 AM • permalink
- #27
I have a friend from Trinidad…she was very angry at Saudi money being used to subvert her country.
Before the oil runs out, the Saudis are determined to spread their death cult worldwide, and associated benefits accrue, lest they have to return to herding goats and defending the honor of a female camel.
- #23/24
I was unaware that the people of Trinidad were such racists.
/sarcasm
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 06 04 at 01:51 AM • permalink
- The ABC is being unkind. These ‘bombers’ did their best. We must remember it’s the thought that counts.
Curious the appeal Wahhabist hatred has for both the very stupid and the very educated. But how smart is it to do this kind of thing, especially when you succeed? Maybe these guys ain’t so stupid after all.
- “I was unaware that the people of Trinidad were such racists.”
LOL.
People like me are often accused of being racist. Ironically, other Americans who make the accusation always seems to come from adherents of the American political party that championed slavery and segregation.
I find it very droll.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 04:55 AM • permalink
- I see humour has already broken out on this thread, so it’s not inappropriate to post something completely off topic.
Pool Hall Magic.
There’s another at the bottom of that page.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 06 04 at 06:01 AM • permalink
- Sorry to be serious.
Until the West appreciates and absorbs the way politics is played in the Middle East, (and by viral action in the expats in the west) we will be hamstrung by concepts of fairness which have no place in the equation.
- Eldridge Cleaver only turned out bad because his older brother Wally was so mean to him.Posted by Rittenhouse on 2007 06 04 at 07:43 AM • permalink
- #31 C.L.: Oh, how I laughed when I first heard that story! I wonder how he managed to get off that list?
However, this is more what I had in mind . I know I’ve said it until it has become tedious, but with liberals of the Kennedy stripe, the primary enemy is always to be found at home.
- What’s this? CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist funding case? Well, that’s some progress, at any rate.
H/T to the Captain
- Dash—hell, it’s too bad it would be even more shocking in Congress.Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 06 04 at 10:05 AM • permalink
- “Eldridge Cleaver”
Don’t even get me started on that scumbag.
Rapist, crack-addict, attempted cop-killer…and, not surprisingly, a hero of the left.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 06 04 at 12:23 PM • permalink
- #52, yeah.
Specifically, for those of you unfamiliar with it, the coup attempt Jamaat al Muslimeen.
Posted by Warmongering Lunatic on 2007 06 04 at 05:21 PM • permalink
- Remember a time when the most deadly thing coming out of Trinidad was a West Indies fast bowler? And that was already deadly enough!Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 06 04 at 07:50 PM • permalink
- I quit reading Tom Clancy when he used the complete destruction of Congress (by a plane hitting the building) to get Jack Ryan into the presidency. I was disgusted and threw the book across the room. The worm has turned.
I might have begun to read him again, until he acquiesced in changing the terrorists from jihadists to neo-Nazis in the movie The Sum of All Fears after 9-11. He also spoke out against going to war. Thought it was the absolutely wrong thing to do.
The United States has everything it needs to win this war against a bunch of 7th century primitivists—except the philosophy and moral backbone. Without that, we may as well be fighting with sticks and stones.
I worry more and more about the outcome. How can we hope to defeat this enemy when so many not only ignore the danger, but spend their time in serious contemplation of Gore’s balls warming.
- It’s nice the see that the population of Trinidad hasn’t been educated to the point of idiocy. Too bad we can’t say that about our own respective countries.
I apologize for being so serious. I’m usually a staunch proponent of laughing in the face of evil. When you look at actual evil, you cannot help but recognize how completely impotent it is. The only thing it is able to accomplish is destruction. The only thing that gives evil its power is the sanction of the good—as in sitting down and having a chat with the various thugs in the Middle East and giving them credit and validation they could never manage on their own. I can laugh at evil. It’s the so-called good I’m having trouble with.
I quit reading Tom Clancy when he used the complete destruction of Congress (by a plane hitting the building) to get Jack Ryan into the presidency.
Yeah, I hate it when people tease. (Oh come on—wouldn’t you sacrifice the rest of the congressbeings just to get Ted Kennedy?)
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 06 05 at 06:36 AM • permalink
- saltydog—I gave up on Clancy when he hooked up with the General Zinni whose financing his retirement stealing from enlisted men.Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 06 06 at 12:50 AM • permalink
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