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Michael Moore’s girly slap-fight with CNN is at an end:
“Sicko” filmmaker Michael Moore called a truce Monday in his weeklong fight with CNN that flared when the network accused him of fudging facts in his popular documentary about the health-care system.
Moore had promised the network over the weekend that “I’m about to become your worst nightmare,” leading CNN to post on its Web site a remarkably lengthy response to his accusations.
He cut and ran! Mike evidently isn’t one to stay the course. Unless we’re talking several courses, all of them with melted cheese and fried onions on top.
- You know that fart noise some folks can make by holding one hand in their armpit and pumping their arm? I bet Moore would be really good at that.Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 07 17 at 04:56 AM • permalink
- #7 Texas Bob, i’ve just had dinner. I really didn’t need that description. Even if it is on the ball.
(dinner = satay beef stir fry with hokkein noodles = yummo)
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 07 17 at 05:46 AM • permalink
- Well, go on Texas Bob, tell us what that something is, don’t hold us in suspense!
Mike says he didn’t fudge a single fact. CNN proved he mismatched facts, and used 2004 data in preference to 2005 data. Fat liar.
Just like walking out of the bank with a gun, isn’t it Mike?
Just like pretending the GM president won’t talk to you, isn’t it Mike?
The only thing sick is your bank account from your shameless lies and propaganda “films”.
- Michael Moore produces fiction. From beginning to end. Might as well make movies for Lifetime Channel.Posted by wronwright on 2007 07 17 at 06:01 AM • permalink
- I was going to call him gutless, but that just doesn’t fit with reality.Posted by mr creosote on 2007 07 17 at 06:27 AM • permalink
- Who cares about that lying, manipulative, miserable, so-and-so Moore? Well, except to work towards totally discrediting him and, perhaps, drive him into penury.
In local news, a 12 year old girl in foster-care has died of septicaemia, osteomyelitis and pulmonary empyemata (multiple collections of pus in the lungs) 3 weeks after suffering a leg injury at school and only a few days after a social worker visited the home.
Here those sort of social workers work for the Department of Health and Community Services so when we read that a “health source” said that, “he was stunned when she died,” and that she looked like, “a really fit and healthy 12-year-old girl … apart from her being in pain,” I’m thinking that the “health source” was probably the social worker who did the visit and not anyone with a medical or nursing qualification.
I have major problems with nurses who make treatment decisions but having social workers make them is far worse. One of my sons worked here in disability services for a couple of years and he had more than one problem with social workers in adult guardianship roles who refused to allow “their” ward to see a doctor when, from what my son told me, such a review should have been done. What happened instead was that the social workers complained to his employer about my son’s attitude towards themselves.
Any child in the kind of pain that little girl must have been in deserves to be referred to someone who is trained to diagnose real, physical illness, rather than the supposed ills of society. I simply do not believe that little girl could have appeared to be, “really fit and healthy,” and then collapse and die only a few days later. This was not a rapidly fatal disease like meningococcal septicaemia. No way! This infection got worse and worse over at least a fortnight. She would have had all kinds of symptoms and signs. They might not all have been declarative but they would certainly have been suggestive.
Stupid, uppity social workers! They like to be known as “clinicians”. Did you know that? Maybe not in other places but that’s how they like to think of themselves here.
- Janice, a mother knows.
I remember when I was 14, or so, my mother dragged me to the doctor. I insisted that I was OK. She said to the doctor, “K has been, I don’t know, not herself. I’m a bit concerned.”
Doctor said “Seems OK, but we’ll do a blood test to be sure.”
I had recently had rubella – I missed out on my rubella shot!! Yay.A friend of mine’s 4 year old son was not himself. She was concerned. She took him to the locum (her GP was away). The locum palmed her off and said the boy was OK.
He eventually ended up quite seriously ill, with intussuception (sp?) or a telescoped bowel and was close to serious complications or death.If you are looking after a child you KNOW when they are not themselves.
- Maybe a light finally dawned in that transfat-besotted brain of his that his work is really nothing more than slop for anti-American hogs who will gobble up anything as long as it denigrates the USA (if it’s also anti-Bush, that’s just extra gravy). He’s better off hollering “suuuuee!” to his porcine audience than picking fights with people who are capable (though perhaps not often tempted to do so) of exercising critical judgment.
- Damn near a dead ringer but Mikey is fatter.
Sorry kae…but yea, Texas Bob answered anyway. Bless our military people. Damn good folks.
“I’m about to become your worst nightmare,”
I reckon my nightmare would be the possibility that he might sit on me. That would result in a major health-care crisis, for sure.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 07 17 at 09:00 AM • permalink
- The US healthcare system makes a profit keeping people healthy, through diagnostic innovation and leading the world in new treatments and cures. Communist and Muslim countries on the other hand are infamous for their human suffering on an industrial scale.
Cuba is a communist country. France is about half-way communist and half-way Muslim. And Canada, until recently, has been trying earnestly to become almost all of both. Now, suddenly, Moore draws inspiration from the state-run healthcare systems of these three countries in particular.
As always, Michael Moore earns his livelihood making another film that tries to pin down the blame for history’s problems on the one nation best able to solve them. His own.
- Perhaps CNN bought him off with a couple hundred meat lover pizzas from Pizza Hut, sorta kinda like Jesse Jackson, only at a reduced rate? With breadsticks on the side, and several dozen boxes of donuts for dessert.
Michael The Moor: Brave until someone waves a hamburger under his nose. Then he’s an overfed puppy.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 17 at 09:10 AM • permalink
- I see you’re being watched:
http://anonymouslefty.blogspot.com/
To be fair, no-one EVER said “Fatty fat-fat”. That would just be offensive.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 09:20 AM • permalink
- Folk in the “boomer generation” and those of us in the gap between them and the “gen xers” will probably remember hearing stories about kids our age that died from all sorts of infections and ailments that are easily cured today.
I grew up around some folk a decade or so older than me that had been crippled by polio.
Many of the families in our community had stories of young ones that had been brought low by disease and infections that aren’t even a source of worry any more.
Michael Moore is a shit eater and a shit talker.
PS
all of them with melted cheese and fried onions on top.
Warning! Do NOT mock the melted cheese and fried onion toppings! That just happens to be a staple in this household.
- ##33 Do NOT mock the melted cheese
True here also. In fact, melted cheese, butter, sour cream and chilli.
That’s just the toppping.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 09:25 AM • permalink
- Being heckled by Jezza equates to the annoyance you feel when you inadvertently step in cow shit with good shoes. Disappointed that you briefly made a mess, but satisfied that your life will go on.
How’s Timmeh Watch going Wal? Making up for the sad, pathetic and parlous state of your personal life? Knowing you, probably.
- Myself I quite like Sears’ blog, though obviously tend to disagree with most of the content.
This is especially true when comparing to sub-human hate rants such as this:
http://johnbrissenden.wordpress.com/
I tend to believe that Jeremy is a human being who gives a sh*t, unlike the above.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 09:31 AM • permalink
- #32: T & B: Surely, Jeremy Sear, Esq., can appreciate the fact that these two rotund individuals, of homeric appetite, present in their persons an image that runs counter to the grain of the concern they profess to feel for the sufferings of their fellows, and, in Gore’s case, is clearly at odds with the abstemiousness he would impose on everyone else. I say “surely” merely as a professional courtesy, of course.
- #38
There’s that, and the fact that they-re lard-asses.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 09:40 AM • permalink
- #38 You’re just not being fair to poor Jermmeh, thinking he’ll pick up on some ambiguous hypocrisy linking some irrelevant personal tonnage juxtaposed to supposed international sermons on curbing excess. The irony is evidently so vague, you can’t expect a deep thinker like Sear to actually catch it, can you? He was probably distracted with finding kitty a new litter box or some such.
- They wanted to film a retreating Michael Moore boarding the last helicopter lifting off from the tower of his ego, but who the hell makes a helicopter with the kind of lifting capacity…?Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 17 at 09:53 AM • permalink
- Jeremy, jealousy is a green-eyed monster that won’t do your blood pressure any good. Perhaps this blogging experiment of yours wasn’t such a good idea. You gave it a go, but hey, like in love and court cases, not everyone wins. There’s bound to be something you’re good at, the thing is to keep on trying. Dust yourself off, get back in the saddle and keep your chin up (or whatever).
On a personal note, did you know there are literally thousands of Asian women looking for friendship, romance and a visa out there seeking a man such as yourself? You are what they WANT Jeremy! Male-ish, breathing and citizenship. And they’re only a few quick mouse-clicks away! Best of luck and happy hunting!
- #38 “homeric appetite”
You mean that bloke who wrote the Iliad was a fatty-fat-fat?
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 10:40 AM • permalink
- #47 Never overestimate someone with a science upbringing. Actually I was thinking of a certain modern-day, yellow character, which also fits.Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 10:53 AM • permalink
- #24
anti-American hogs who will gobble up anything as long as it denigrates the USAA favourite pastime of the ‘progressive Left’ worldwide – victimhood – those perceived as more powerful are always the oppressor, whether it be the US, etc. or ‘Alpha male’ industry leaders (tired of our ABC’s patriarchy-bashing undertones – there are plenty of ordinary Joes beneath that glass ceiling, too, sweetheart).
- See? I told you so.
Also, I think this excellent comment and link from the previous Fat Mikey thread is worth another look.
- #50
‘Manufacturing Dissent’ referred in the Moore thread preceding that, too (and in previous Moore threads).
- #49
The ‘progressive Left’s’ culture of victimhood:The Left needs to get real
Reality bites the psychotic Left
The perverse left
The Left’s Victim Complex
- egg_:
If the left is characterized by it’s various forms of socialism and hedonism, what defines the radical right?
Just curious. I’ve often wondered about this. If the left is about establishing some form of socialistic feudalism led by some form of elite intellectualists, then would the extreme right be anarchists?
- #56 et al
I see the “left” as a cultural phenomenon, intimately connected with the media. While, to some extent, every individual has his own views, this phenomenon represents a “package deal” of opinions, eg
Global warming – a problem
Islamic extremism – not a problem
Capitalism – evil
etc.It comes about simply because popular news sources propagate the idea that these opinions are “good” and the opposite ones “bad”. It then becomes trendy in the general population to think this way. The vicious circle continues as the media start to feed their readership what they want to hear.
The “left” is a fashion in the West. After a while it will become unfashionable.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 12:41 PM • permalink
- It goes without saying that when one sits in the lap of luxury, one can afford to have fashionable opinions without any great fear that one will one day have to confront the reality behind them.
As someone said the other day : “You were raised in freedom, so you can spit on it.”
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 17 at 12:48 PM • permalink
- #62, ThinAndBritish:
I don’t know. From my limited understanding, leftism or the impossible socialistic utopia associated with it today, predates the foundation of the US as an independent nation.
Iirc, back in that day, many of those who’d later become “founding fathers” despised the very term “democracy”. It was associated with the mob rule and kleptarchy of ancient Athens. It was the radical left, who favored the concepts more popular in europe that kept calling our gov a democracy.
The democracy of that day was what would be more closely associated with various forms of communism today, especially in the treatment of private property and direct, non representative, rule by popular vote.
The only thing taken from the ancient Greeks by our founders was the competing branch structure of the Spartans. The various competing government branches were meant to prevent fast adoption of whatever seemed trendy at the time and provide for a more stable, long term view of societal and cultural growth and adaptation.
That’s why they chose the Roman form of representative republic as the base foundation as well. That was what the US gov was referred to most often, until the leftards began to dominate. Representative Republic.
Leftism was born from a mishmash of mutually exclusive ideologies. Anarchy to authoritarian neofeudalism and egalitarianism/pre-marxist communism.
Much of what underpins leftism is the demand that humankind be manipulated into a perfect society that completely denies the reality of human behavior.
What seems to drive what’s currently called conservatism is the belief that humanity is best governed by establishing some baseline common standards of minimum acceptable behavior, sufficient to allow for a functioning civil society, then allow as much room for personal adaptation to events as can be allowed without engendering chaos.
Of course, there’s much criss cross and bleed-over from one to the other and various pieces and parts of one adopted by the other. One thing always for certain, nothing conceived by humans will ever be perfect or smooth in operation.
- #56 Grimmy
I suspect it’s circular, i.e. conspiracy nuts like McVeigh wrap around to the anarchists of the extreme Left, with most of us somewhat near the centre.#64 T&B
Although comfortably off, some from the Left seem to have victimhood issues from their childhood [Oprah, et al] and so issues with authority, not so different from McVeigh’s.
They wanted to film a retreating Michael Moore boarding the last helicopter lifting off from the tower of his ego, but who the hell makes a helicopter with the kind of lifting capacity…?
A Chinook?
Posted by Major John on 2007 07 17 at 01:25 PM • permalink
- #67 Major John;
They wanted to film a retreating Michael Moore boarding the last helicopter lifting off from the tower of his ego, but who the hell makes a helicopter with the kind of lifting capacity…?
A Chinook?Better; either a MiL-26 Halo, that can lift 44,000lbs, or a CH-53E Super Stallion that can lift 32,000lbs.
A Chinook would be marginal at only 23,400lbs.
- Re the Mikey liftoff. I have an alternative proposal.
Remember the scene in “The Green Berets” where the NV General was jacked off of the ground by the transport when it caught the balloon attached to the rope which was attached to the vest on the aforementioned General.
Only in this case I would suggest string supplied by Kmart instead of rope supplied by PACO Enterprises. The string should last maybe four or five hundred feet up. That should just about do it. You could even get a refund on the sting if you kept the receipt!
/constructive solutions
- #78 Yojimbo: thanks for the implied tribute to the quality of Paco Enterprises’ rope, but, er, heh, it ought to do nicely for what you have in mind. Love the idea, incidentally.
And guess what? Transfat Rage Boy is going to go on CNN yet again.
- Here’s a good and much deserved slam against the NYT. And I’m not just linking Villainous Company because it has one of my favorite blog banners (although, I admit, it does cause me to prolong my visits).
Michael Moore: He cut and waddled.
LOL. Mikey never could take the heat. My favorite “cut ‘n waddle” moment came at the ‘04 GOP convention where he was so unmercifully booed that he refused to come back. That, IMO, was when MM jumped the shark (and, yes, I know “jump the shark” has jumped the shark, but I don’t care).
Take a gander at the speech, text provided by Power Line, that David Keene delivered to CAIR this morning. Wow. Just wow.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 17 at 03:25 PM • permalink
- Here’s one reason why leaky borders are a bad thing.
- Paco, gimme some of those blogging steroids you’ve clearly been taking lately; my brain’s on downtime. Overworked.
Regarding public vs private health in Australia: don’t be like the lady I know, waiting 8 months for a cardiology appointment through Qld Health (despite being listed Category 2 – 60 day maximum wait). You’ll die before your cataract op or joint replacement. Go private!
- I do believe the next time we’re hit, we’ll trace at least some of the perps to the southern border. Then there’ll be hell to pay in Washington. For sure. Well, maybe. Oh, who am I kidding.
As far as I know, it’s not illegal to shoot coyotes.
Nor to hang their carcases on the fence as a warning to other coyotes.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 17 at 05:15 PM • permalink
- Kyda, thanks for the Powerline link. CAIR needs to stop over-reaching, and start being a responsible leader, not just a finger pointing operation, divesting all blame from any Muslim. That ain’t the way the world runs. At least, not in my universe.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 17 at 05:37 PM • permalink
CAIR needs to stop over-reaching, and start being a responsible leader, not just a finger pointing operation, divesting all blame from any Muslim.
Um, ‘fraid not. Bush office is anti-Muslim, group says:
[Chairman of the national board of CAIR Parvez] Ahmed, who spoke at CAIR symposium at the National Press Club, said the war against terrorists is driven by an “irrational” fear that the Bush administration has inculcated in the American public. The chance of being killed in a terrorist attack, he said, is 1 in 80,000 over a lifetime.
He’s kidding, right?
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 17 at 07:54 PM • permalink
- 1 in 80,000.
I live in a city of 11,000,000.
That means I have the chance, according to CAIR, of being involved in approximately 138 terrorist attacks.
Gee, I feel so much better. I’ve already been involved in two. Only 136 to go.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 17 at 08:07 PM • permalink
- Major John, Paco—Where Tubby’s headed, halos won’t be an issue…Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 17 at 08:07 PM • permalink
- Moore said he believed it was important for him to let people know his side. “In the report they say that I fudged the facts,” he said, “and they didn’t find a single fact that I fudged.”
Drop the fudge, Mike! Move away from the fudge.
Posted by Crunchy Peanut Butter on 2007 07 17 at 08:21 PM • permalink
- Kyda—see, that’s the thanks Bush gets for bending himself into a backwards pretzel to reassure American Muslims that their crazy beliefs are “a religion of peace” and that he knows they are just as bothered by terrorists as us infidels. He might as well have just gone ahead and rounded them all up in camps.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 07 17 at 09:16 PM • permalink
Moore said he believed it was important for him to let people know his side.
He just made a FREAKING MOVIE.
That doesn’t count as “his side”?
Posted by Brian Tiemann on 2007 07 17 at 09:51 PM • permalink
- Unlike you, of course, who has all but abandoned the daily carnage in Iraq that you, in your own small minded way have helped to bring about. But that’s right, we’ve know for years now what you’re all about… a smartarse foot soldier in the large-scale fomentation of misery off-shore. If hell exists you’re headed there for the role you’ve played in creating hell on earth. And what for? Some cheap laffs and your name in the papers. what a waste of talent on such a moribund project: self promotion.Posted by Miranda Divide on 2007 07 17 at 10:07 PM • permalink
- Miranda,
I have read nothing from you that tells me you’re anywhere close to understanding the issues. Go away and bake some cookies.
Posted by wronwright on 2007 07 17 at 10:11 PM • permalink
“Hey, your LA Compton Cricket Club is headed our way”
The guy behind it is Ted Hayes, a black homeless activist who’s also a fire-breathing conservative in many respects.
He’d be a very lively interview, Tim.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 07 18 at 12:17 AM • permalink
- #66. egg
I suspect it’s circular, i.e. conspiracy nuts like McVeigh wrap around to the anarchists of the extreme Left, with most of us somewhat near the centre.
One thing sure, it’s not at all linear. IIRC, the notions of “right and left” are an accident of the way the French Assembly arrayed itself 200-odd years back.
Not a very useful notion nowadays.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 07 18 at 12:28 AM • permalink
- Timk, I’ve met Ted Hayes and marched with him quite a few times. You really want to meet and interview this guy.
You think your pink herd down there freak over Howard…?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 18 at 02:01 AM • permalink
- #101 Miranda Divide, what about the daily carnage in Africa? In Indonesia? And everywhere else in the world that Islam has infested? Why limit yourself to Iraqi carnage? Oh! I see. It’s because you and your pus-brained ilk has so passionately embraced these murderous thugs, you couldn’t look yourself in the mirror if you actually had to stop and think about it. You ridiculous hypocrite, talking about who is going to hell. You amoebic-like leftoid devil worshippers will be cleaning toilets in hell. Go crawl back to your crack house and smoke yourself into a stupor, and MAYBE your conscience will give you a respite from the endless torture you so richly deserve.
- “a smartarse foot soldier in the large-scale fomentation of misery off-shore”
It’s nonsensical, yet I find it strangely poetic…
…have I mentioned recently, Miranda, how absolutely damned sexy I find a woman who speaks her mind. Please drop me a line.
And yes, I do know you’re a guy. It just makes it more exciting, don’t you think?
- Shouldn’t that title be Long Wide National Nightmare Over…?Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 18 at 09:14 PM • permalink
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