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If we want to secure our way of life, there is no alternative but to fight for it.
Read the whole thing.
- Unless, of course, your future king thinks he looks good in a burqah…Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 28 at 11:00 AM • permalink
- “Read the whole thing.”
I got about half way through until I realised that Tony Blair comes across as the most phoney politician this side of Hillary Clinton. On that note, Tony should learn to keep his freaking spouse under control, I’d probably respect him more if Cherie were cheating on him instead of defending the right of Salafists to turn up to school in ninja cloaks. It’s almost impossible to take him seriously given the reluctance of the Blairs to challenge Islamic culture, even in its most backwards and anti-social incarnations.
If you still don’t understand why I feel this way, just imagine Tony speaking when you’re reading the article. His disingenuous little voice really gets to me.
- It is a great and important speech…even if it comes from some Leftie, warm-mongering re-birther, hehehe.
But it’s hard not to read a hint of desperation in Blair’s words, particularly in the way he delivered them. There wasn’t enough of the power and ‘get-up-and-get-moving’ energy that comes across in the filmed speeches of other war-time leaders like Churchill, Kennedy, Menzies, LBJ.
Dunno, maybe those great speeches of decades past became more powerful and convincing with age, and seemed more so being viewed through the prism of knowing the outcomes of the ‘call to arms’ they were motivating.
It just seems like Blair is asking us to fight, going “come on, help us, pleeez”, instead of demanding we do so. That demand might be in the words, but it wasn’t in the footage. It sounded better on radio than it looked on television.
Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 28 at 11:53 AM • permalink
- Don’t know about “war time speeches” made by Kennedy, except..‘What the fuck was that?”, when the Japanese blew PT 109 out from under him. “Land a man on the moon and bring him back” was fine…not war time…unless you mean the ‘cold war’. Getting around Jackie and asking ‘where’s Marilyn’?, could be considered ‘war time’, I guess.
LBJ, except for two. One, the bogus Gulf of Tonkin speech and then the speech that acknowledged the U.S. Media had just won the war, for the North Vietnamese.
In LBJ’s case, the Vietnam course had already been set by President Truman, when he let the Frenchies ass off the hook.
Don’t know much about your man Menzies, except a gifted orator and staunch anti Communist.
Churchill, on the other hand as gifted as he was, made errors. We all do…human nature I suppose. Great man, great war time leader, of the last century, maybe of ANY century.
If Blair sounded as though he was asking, it probably is, because he was. With Islamic-psychopaths living in each of our nations midsts and useful idiots on the left, to include the msm…I guess one has to ask. Even Bush had to have U.N. anointment.
Blair, Howard, Bush and our other allies are correct on this war…The right people don’t win this one…it’s beards, burkas, beheadings, stonings and honor killings.
Beards get itchy, burkas, my Mrs. and my daughter wouldn’t wear one if they had to and I’d back them to the hilt, even to the point of having the hilt stuck on the breast bone of an Islamic beast. Having been divorced a time or two, I must admit there was a time or two, the thought of stonings, did cross my mind, though….:).
- He does sound a bit desperate. He talks pretty and I love him for it, but when he doesn’t follow up with action, he weakens his case tremendously. Why is the south of Iraq now pretty much fundamental, why have no radicals been deported from England? He must show the courage of his convictions, and then people will follow him.
- LBJ made some ‘Get With The Program’ speeches in Australia in 1966-ish. Saw excerpts in Vietnam war docos.
John F. Kennedy delivered a number of idealistic speeches about freedom and Vietnam between 1961 and 1963, some of which were not far removed from recent Bush/Blair speeches about sacrifice and defending values.
Part of what made Churchill’s speeches so powerful was that he loved war, and he had no problem with massive German casualties. He never apologised once, whereas Bush and Blair seem genuinely freaked out by any mention of civilian body counts.
Bush and Blair and Howard talk far less now about the conflict side, and are into this theme of going to war against ideas, which may be too philosophical for many. Then again, it’s first time Blair has said the word “Fight” in a while.
Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 28 at 01:18 PM • permalink
- Part of what made Churchill’s speeches so powerful was that he loved war, and he had no problem with massive German casualties.
Winston, if you are around and have given me permission to call you Winston, shared that same philosophy George Patton (Old Blood and Guts) did….“No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country.”
Unfortunately the NEW “bastards” referred to, are IN EVERY country. FDR had what HE thought was a solution for that… with the internment of somewhere around 120,000 Japanese in the U.S. AND the U.S. Supreme Court, sided with FDR.
Maybe FDR trying to “pack” the court, at one time, helped them arrive at their decision.
Jesus, I could just see what the democrats would do to Bush, were he to try that with todays enemy…Hell, the democrats will try to impeach him (should they win enough seats this year), JUST for listening to what and why Islamists are calling and saying in phone calls to and from the U.S.
- El Cid
I honestly think that is just a hollow threat. Dhimmicrats love power too much to jeopardize any tenuous hold they might get on it by moving forward an impeachment trial against Bush. True, their leadership is borderline imcompetent, but Hillary probably has enough sense to understand that any such trial torpedoes her (already slim) Presidential aspirations.
Back on topic-good speech by Tony Blair. I might not like most of what his party stands for, but that’s politics. He is right about the war, and that is about preserving western civilization.
- 91B30
I honestly think that is just a hollow threat.I’m sure you are correct…BUT sure as hell hope the sane part of that party convinces the INsane part, of that.
Back on topic-good speech by Tony Blair. I might not like most of what his party stands for, but that’s politics. He is right about the war, and that is about preserving western civilization.
He sure is, along with Howard, Bush, et al or I should say et al’lies.
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Dhimmicrats love power too much to jeopardize any tenuous hold they might get on it by moving forward an impeachment trial against Bush.
I don’t think the big stumbling block is the power they might lose, but the power they already lack. Their chances of impeaching a Republican president in the Republican-controlled House for a trial in the Republican-controlled Senate are not real promising.
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 03 28 at 05:36 PM • permalink
- It was a strong and well reasoned talk by Blair to the Australian Parliament (only 3 other foreign leaders previously given that opportunity – 3 x American Presidents and 1 x Chinese President).
But given its content was fairly predictable (hardly expected Blair to say “Ok, were out.”), it was most notable here for contrasting his Labor Party stance with that of the Australian Labor Party (and Blair and Beazley knew each other at University). Australian Labor’s policy is to withdraw the troop from Iraq at first convenient opportunity (or in the case of previous leader Mark Latham “troops home by Christmas”.)
Seeing Beasley and the entire Parliamentary Labor Party being lectured by Labor PM Blair about ‘staying the course’ in Iraq was a sight to behold.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 03 28 at 06:02 PM • permalink
- Criticise the ALP if you must, but once we have the hover technology, we will not require an alliance with America.Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 03 28 at 06:45 PM • permalink
- Seeing Beasley and the entire Parliamentary Labor Party being lectured by Labor PM Blair about ‘staying the course’ in Iraq was a sight to behold.
It must have been excruciatingly galling for Labor to have to sot through Blair’s lecture.
Posted by Mikie Slats on 2006 03 28 at 08:55 PM • permalink
- Tony Blair is exactly what Bill Clinton would have looked like as a wartime president—i.e., completely helpless without a serious Big Brother along…Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 28 at 09:14 PM • permalink
Once the Israeli election has taken place we must redouble our efforts to find a way to the only solution that works: a secure state of Israel and a viable, independent Palestinian state
The Palestinians have been defacto independant for 10 years now. ‘the only solution that works’ my ass!
Plus how he can advocate that and say his general policy is based on security and justice and fairness just shows that Israel is still the Jew among nations- the topic on which people’s brains switch off.
I see Blair in the future tilting against Israel to try to demonstrate his ‘fairness’, rather than following true fairness and justice.
- Blair has, i think, realised that muslims are totally incompatable with other world cultures. He must therefore balance the call from now, on the arguments about defending our way of life, with the obligations of multiculturist left wing thinking.
Unlike Howard he is surrounded in his own UK party by “Et tu Brutes” who would flush England down the toilet for some political kudos.
It matters not what outrages such as the bombing of kindergardens, the release of deadly poisons in transport systems, etc occur in the future.
They will always blame themselves or rather their own culture and will support Islam and the Islamists.
Does Blair have the courage to clean out the Augean stables in his own party and replace them with those who are committed to the survival of Great Britain’s culture.
Like Clinton he is a man who like to please evryone- so i doubt it.
it will take a far greater man to lead Britain to recovery.
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