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The Age’s Russell Skelton spins for Ole Catmeat:

Provocative Muslim cleric Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali has taken leave from his duties at the Lakemba Mosque to recover from a mild heart attack but is strongly resisting pressure to stand down permanently.

“Provocative”? “Provocative”? You’d think the Sheik’s belief that women are Satan’s minions would at least earn him the universal bad-guy media adjective: “controversial”.

Many Muslims are privately angry at Prime Minister John Howard’s continued criticism of Sheikh Hilali, saying it is only rallying support for his cause and distorting the issues.

Hilali’s cause involves the removal of the White House, support for jihadists, and an evident loathing of female liberation. Kind of difficult to distort, seeing as Hilali makes his views so plain. Oh, and look who else is siding with the great Islamic scholar …

Posted by Tim B. on 10/31/2006 at 08:03 PM
    1. Probably “catmeat’’ means something else in Arabic, like “push-up brassiere,’’ that would make it sensible in context.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 10 31 at 08:12 PM • permalink


    1. Yair, I reckon with a conk like that she’d be safe from everyone. (She’s certainly not provocative!)

      Posted by kae on 2006 10 31 at 08:14 PM • permalink


    1. could we settle on the usage “Catsmeat” – as it has PG Wodehouse allusions…

      Posted by Ben P on 2006 10 31 at 08:26 PM • permalink


    1. Provocative hey – how about I suggest some better adjectives to describe sheik rattle and roll catmeat (including for his past comments):


      That only took me 30 secs and all are more appropriate than provocative and the connotations that it engenderes.

      Did you notice his daughter on the news wasn’t wearing a full face covering – she was supporting her dad, but according to him she is uncovered meat and deserves to be raped. Maybe someone should explain this to her.

      Posted by mordred on 2006 10 31 at 08:31 PM • permalink


    1. Provocative is a pretty powerful word.  I mean, if it’s women who are provocative and raped, maybe the sheikh can be provocative and deported?

      Posted by anthony_r on 2006 10 31 at 08:31 PM • permalink


    1. In leftist SMH logic, one misogynist comment can easily be cancelled out by another criticising either Bush or America.

      Where is Adele Horin and the rest of the SMH’s coven of harpies on this one? Where is the outrage?

      Posted by Nic on 2006 10 31 at 08:32 PM • permalink


    1. Dear Age,

      A shorter, more concise way to say it: “Catmeat” Hilali, who previously failed to get anywhere near saving Woods, has been finally told by the Lakemba congregation to “piss off”.  Clapping broke out all over by the saner members of the public.

      Yours in journalism


      Posted by allan on 2006 10 31 at 08:40 PM • permalink


    1. Buh-bye, Sheik. Guess that White House cleaning goes to the back burner.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 10 31 at 08:44 PM • permalink


    1. The Age in 1939:

      Provocative German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, whose views on resolving his country’s Jewish problem are regarded as controversial in some quarters, is being given excessive media attention which is encouraging extremism among some Nazis.

      Posted by mr magoo on 2006 10 31 at 08:57 PM • permalink


    1. Leunig’s cheer squad tend to forget that his vision of the world involves the pliant wife (or the young hottie you ditched her for) barefoot and pregnant, sweeping the earth floor of your farmhouse while you cuddle ducks and homeschool your kids.  When John Howard alludes to anything like a normal family or household (and even when he doesn’t), these same people scream that he’s dragging us “back to the ‘fifties”.  But Looning almost always gets a pass on this.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2006 10 31 at 09:01 PM • permalink


    1. Al “Catmeat” Hilbilly is taking three to four months off “work” according to the quotes in the SMH.

      This is obviously the amount of time that he has worked out that the furore will have died down and he can get back to delivering his diatribes in secret again.

      Think again, sunshine.

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 10 31 at 09:04 PM • permalink


    1. They are saying that the sheik was the voice of moderate islam and that with his depature the real radicals will take over the Lakemba mosque.

      I know what they mean, the guy who would succeed the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney George Pell is also a homosexual hating, cross burning, antisemite who thinks that all other religions should be put to the sword.

      So you see, it is not just the religion of peace which balances on such a knife edge.
      /sarcasm off

      Posted by rbresca on 2006 10 31 at 09:05 PM • permalink


    1. Pedro.
      Yeah, he works for the dole, doesn’t he?

      Posted by kae on 2006 10 31 at 09:07 PM • permalink


    1. Did you notice his daughter on the news wasn’t wearing a full face covering

      #4, I noticed that too and wondered whether she was taking advantage of the fact that her father was in hospital and wasn’t there to tell her to cover up.

      You know what they say: When the cat’s away…..

      Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 10 31 at 09:23 PM • permalink


    1. I hope that ASIO and the NSW police have their cameras ready to film the Jihadi Baddies at Parry park Lakemba on Saturday.  Maybe the Army should be on standby just in case these punks decide to try and fuck around with Australia.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 10 31 at 09:29 PM • permalink


    1. “The avert your eyes’ from uncovered meat, could pose a occupational health and safety issue here in Austrlia. Can we sue for negligence, what if all uncovered meat is driving on the road and they crash because of averting the eyes away ?

      There have been sarcastic suggestions that if Muslim women are covered up to avoid inciting male lust, children should lead their fathers blindfold along the street:

      I 1.618, saw this happen yesterday while driving (uncovered) along the highway in Sydney with a woman in full black burqa who walked behind the young males.

      It was major “throw up” for covered meat moment for Australia. These men are apes.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2006 10 31 at 09:30 PM • permalink


    1. #14 Nice.

      I reckon Hilali should dump Keyser Trad, he’s holding him back. He needs a better manager like the one Pauline Hanson and David Oldfield got. Soon he’ll be on Dancing With the Stars or Celebrity Survivor.

      Personally, I’d like to see him host a remake of Blankety Blanks.

      Posted by SingleMalt on 2006 10 31 at 09:31 PM • permalink


    1. Many Muslims are privately angry

      Stop. Right. There. When was the last time Muslims were “privately” angry at anything?

      Posted by paco on 2006 10 31 at 09:33 PM • permalink


    1. Muslims could never rule, they can only spoil and ruin everyday life.  They are only happy when life is miserable.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 10 31 at 10:03 PM • permalink


    1. …while you cuddle ducks and homeschool your kids.

      No no! Homeschooling is a practice of Teh Evil KKKhristians! You mean, “while you cuddle ducks and watch fondly as your children ride the community oxcart to their public school, which is built entirely of hemp and bamboo.”

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 10 31 at 10:07 PM • permalink


    1. The Sheik and stir continues.

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2006 10 31 at 10:33 PM • permalink


    1. Good review of the debacle by Robert Spencer in Front Page Magazine—

      (These remarks) are also, unfortunately, consistent with the example of Muhammad, Islam’s prophet, as I show in my new book The Truth About Muhammad. The Qur’an tells men: “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess” (4:24)—that is, slave girls who are considered the spoils of war. All too often in Western countries, particularly in Europe’s restive Muslim enclaves, young Muslim men have understood this as permitting the rape of non-Muslim women who venture out uncovered—in accord with Shahid Mehdi’s statement…
      In light of all this, al-Hilali’s remarks should not be surprising—but they should continue to be cause for concern. For they illustrate the fact that the clash of civilizations isn’t just taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places where the warriors of jihad are fighting today. It is taking place right at home, in Western countries where our deeply-held cultural values are being subjected to an increasingly forthright and assertive challenge.


      If you don’t already read FP or subscribe to FP’s email announcments I recommend it. The quality of the writing is consistently high and fits the general world-view of most of Tim’s subscribers.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2006 10 31 at 10:54 PM • permalink


    1. Kae, Yeah, he works for the dole, doesn’t he?

      Yes, but with his ticker playing up, I see a large worker’s compo claim coming up.

      It would be nice to deport him but there may be legal difficulties.  What about a compromise where he gets to stay but:
      – gets a real job such as driving a bus late shift in Campbelltown
      – cuts out all the islamery
      – refrains from alien customs such as lying sideways on a bed instead of sitting down like everyone else

      Posted by Big Jim on 2006 10 31 at 11:27 PM • permalink


    1. I understand that most ministers of Christian religion are paid a stipend by their church. They aren’t on the dole (they might get fringies, I think, but they are not fully supported by taxpayers).

      Posted by kae on 2006 10 31 at 11:33 PM • permalink


    1. New TV ad for Whiskas

      Sheik Hilaly comes on screen accompanied by an Aussie girl in bikini. He is holding a can of Whiskas a teaspoon and a can opener.

      He taps on the can and calls out in a sing song voice ‘Ahmed, Mohammad, Muhummad, Abdul’.

      Enter the scene four 19 year old maless of no appearance, call the Aussie girl ‘an Aussie pig slut’ and walk off screen to pin her against the nearest wall amid screaming.

      Sheik opens the can, puts it into the cat’s dish. Cat enters and starts eating.

      End of ad with new slogan: ‘Whiskas – it’s not the cat’s fault’.

      Posted by Effing & Blinding on 2006 10 31 at 11:43 PM • permalink


    1. Heart attack soon after his remarks? Maybe Allah was trying to tell him something like, “Lighten up, schmuck!”

      Posted by JimC on 2006 10 31 at 11:45 PM • permalink


    1. Amnesty International, a doubtful organisation at the best of times, says the Shiek is correct:

      ‘Outrageous’ comments by Australia’s mufti reflected a wider view held by men about women, Amnesty International’s head said today…

      Amnesty’s secretary-general Irene Khan, herself a Muslim, said the sheik’s comments reflected “mediaeval” thinking in which women were seen as sexual objects.

      “I see it as a bigger issue of how men seek to control women’s bodies, women’s lives, what women wear,” said Ms Khan, who is in Australia to accept the Sydney Peace Prize.

      Of course when you read ‘Sydney Peace Prize’ and ‘Irene Khan’ in the one sentence you know you’re in for.


      Posted by walterplinge on 2006 11 01 at 12:38 AM • permalink


    1. Robert Spencer has written on the Australian sheik affair. The Australian, he said, mistranslated an important part of the skeik’s speech. Spencer has also written a new book, “The Truth About Muhammed”. Looks very good

      Posted by daphne on 2006 11 01 at 12:40 AM • permalink


    1. As for that fuckwit Leunig. He needs to resign for drawing an obscene cartoon victimising women and trivialising the whole sordid affair.

      The Age needs to sack the arsehole. He is not an artist he is a moralising little prick.

      Posted by daphne on 2006 11 01 at 12:43 AM • permalink


    1. Local cat’s meat cops it—

      A Victorian man who raped a virgin on his bucks’ night has had his six-year jail term restored after he appealed against the initial sentence and won a retrial.

      Sermet Demiri, 29, will continue to serve a minimum of four years in jail for twice raping a 21-year-old woman outside a suburban Melbourne nightclub on March 2, 2003.

      Victorian County Court Judge Meryl Sexton restored Demiri’s sentence today, after he was again convicted by jury on two counts of rape…


      Posted by walterplinge on 2006 11 01 at 12:44 AM • permalink


    1. #27 from the link

      Australian Muslim moderate leader Tanveer Ahmed acknowledged that “in a large number of Muslim households, young men will be taught that white women are cheap and easy.

      What hope is there when the children are taught this at home?

      I was never cheap and, as I age, it’s getting more difficult, so that teaching is totally incorrect.

      Posted by kae on 2006 11 01 at 12:55 AM • permalink


    1. Hilali’s words have made it into a speech by [url=] Hirsi Ayaan Ali[/url],dhimmiwatch.organd the blogs of various Egyptions including Sandmonkey (, who also mentions a recent sexual assault spree in downtown Cairo on the recent occasion of Eid.
      Fun for all the boys, but not for the girls.

      Apologies if I’ve messed up the links, haven’t linked stuff before.

      Posted by carpefraise on 2006 11 01 at 01:47 AM • permalink


    1. oh darn it…

      Posted by carpefraise on 2006 11 01 at 01:48 AM • permalink


    1. #32 & 33


      Here is the link to the Hirsi Ali piece you wanted to alert us to:,,2092-2426413,00.html

      It’s brilliant.

      Posted by daphne on 2006 11 01 at 02:03 AM • permalink


    1. ABC tries a hard(ish) question and gets the eternal victim card played.
      “TONY EASTLEY: But, nevertheless, there has been support for him and by way of support for what he’s said about women.

      IRENE KHAN: I would think that what is actually you’re seeing here is Sheikh Hilali incident as a symbol of a bigger problem that is taking place in the Muslim community that feels belittled, that feels … some of them feel demonised, that feels discriminated in the larger context of war on terror, of other policies, racist attacks, xenophobic attacks and so on.

      So in that context there is one group that feels really alienated, and that is allowing the kind of support that you see for Hilali to come forward.”

      Stop blowing shit up, keeping half your population in bondage because they have ovaries and I might consider it.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 01 at 03:23 AM • permalink


    1. Well no doubt Ken Livingston will think its a good idea to give the Sheik a job on the underground. After all he thinks Abu Hamza’s kid should be allowed to work there.

      Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2006 11 01 at 06:25 AM • permalink


    1. I would think that what is actually you’re seeing here is Sheikh Hilali incident as a symbol of a bigger problem that is taking place in the Muslim community that feels belittled

      Translation: You’re not bowing and scraping to your Muslim masters fast enough, so the Muslim community feels belittled.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 11 01 at 07:27 AM • permalink


    1. I’d like to know why Irene Khan isn’t wearing her sack and being led around by her keeper.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 11 01 at 07:40 AM • permalink


    1. Hilali’s cause involves the removal of the White House, support for jihadists, and an evident loathing of female liberation.

      Is Hilali after Bob Browns job? He is starting to sound alot like him.

      Posted by curious george on 2006 11 01 at 07:43 AM • permalink


    1. Sheik up – – reports deputy recalled to fill void.

      Posted by stackja1945 on 2006 11 01 at 07:44 AM • permalink


    1. Sheik up – – reports deputy recalled to fill void.

      Must be a small man to fit inside the sheikh’s head.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 11 01 at 09:07 AM • permalink


    1. I haven’t seen a picture of his daughter yet. Is she the cat’s meow or what?

      Tom Zreika, president of the Lebanese Muslim Association … criticised comments by state and federal politicians as unhelpful and said Islamic issues should be left to the Muslim community.
      Yeah, that’s a great idea. Good things ALWAYS come from leaving muslims to their own devices. {/SARC}

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2006 11 01 at 09:24 AM • permalink


  • #30 “A human being in whom there was much value to salvage”,said Judge Sexton..
    This is the guy who raped a virgin the night before his wedding.
    Says it all about judges really.

    Posted by crash on 2006 11 01 at 09:49 AM • permalink


  • Hey, the Lakemba gang is actually organising a huge protest.

    Against the treatment of…Hilali.


    Posted by C.L. on 2006 11 01 at 10:06 AM • permalink


    1. Okay, who left the italics bin open again.  Sheesh, do you guys think Tim is made of italics?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 11 01 at 10:13 AM • permalink


    1. In old-media culture, “provocative” means the writer agrees with the subject’s ends, or at least disagrees with the subject’s enemies.  It’s a term of praise.

      Provocative people include:

      Jon Stewart
      Karen Finley/Andres Serrano/Robert Mapplethorpe
      Oliver Stone
      Bishop Spong
      Madalyn Murray O’Hair (RIP)

      “Controversial” means the writer disagrees with the subject’s ends, or at least agrees with the subject’s enemies.  It’s a term of condemnation.

      Controversial people include:

      Andrew “Dice” Clay
      Newt Gingrich
      Phyllis Schlafly
      Randall Terry
      John Stossel
      Rudy Giuliani (in the mayoral years)

      Old media would prefer to ignore the latter, which is the treatment they usually give to people and ideas they don’t support.  However, there’s something about them that can’t be ignored—e.g. popularity, diligence, or outrageousness—so the term “controversial” must be employed to marginalize them.  Much the same way “conservative” is used.

      Aren’t code words fun to crack?

      Posted by Rittenhouse on 2006 11 01 at 11:46 AM • permalink


    1. #44 The Saturday protest has been cancelled (on Hilali’s request) but police will be around just in case of spontaneous(ly orchestrated) bursts of lurv and people are being encouraged to rock up at mosque tomorrow.

      #4. #42 I believe one of shieks daughters doesn’t wear a hijab (it’s the niqab that covers the face). But here’s the daughter (Asma) he was photographed with in the papers – obligatory family shot.

      Posted by saint on 2006 11 02 at 08:56 AM • permalink


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