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The ABC finds a cuddly criminologist:

A criminologist on south-east Queensland’s Gold Coast says Monday’s fatal shooting in Melbourne does not represent an escalation in bikie violence.

The Federal Justice Minister says Australia needs uniform laws on outlawed motorcycle gangs but Bond University’s Professor Paul Wilson says governments should avoid driving the gangs underground …

Professor Wilson says authorities should try to establish a dialogue with the groups.

Slightly diminishing the Professor’s call are several “also of interest” items listed at the same page, including:

Bikies charged over nightclub fight

Bikies charged over toddler’s drive-by murder

Bikies suspected in brutal pub bashing

UPDATE. Fugitive bikie Christopher Hudson, wanted for the shooting murder of Brendan Keilar, has been arrested in Wallan – birth place of Ned Kelly, as it happens.

Posted by Tim B. on 06/20/2007 at 03:31 AM
    1. Professor Paul Wilson says governments should avoid driving the gangs underground …

      Have we learned nothing from Rotary?

      Seriously, are we under siege from a giant twat plague or what?

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 03:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. IIRC the gunman was described on ABC Radio News as a 25 y.o. construction worker who owned a black Mercedes [located near the scene of the crime] and a black Honda CRV … wealthy family or a crim?

      ‘Cuddle a gangster month’?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 20 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Malignant pollop of poop arrested.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 20 at 03:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. We just need to apply some simple conflict resolution strategies.

      Firstly, we invite waring gangs to a weekend in a rural retreat, let’s say Heard Island.

      Then we involve them in a group bonding activity, let’s say hunting, kitting them out with the necessary equipment.

      Then we employ a ‘harmony officer’ to help them smooth things out.  Someone with a track record of bringing communities together, like Keysar Trad.

      Come Monday morning, problem solved.

      Posted by monaro on 2007 06 20 at 03:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. #4 – My father has been to Heard Island! I’ve got lots of nice photos of the place from years and years ago.

      There are quite a few sheer cliffs that recalcitrant peace activists can be thrown off if needs be.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 06 20 at 04:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. Seven people dead in the Milperra massacre and no one did more than five years for it.

      Then again, the last thing we want to do is hand their ‘businesses’ on a plate to even worse villains.

      Posted by monaro on 2007 06 20 at 04:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. Before he moved to Queensland, Paul Wilson was at the Australian Institute of Criminology here in Canberra and would regularly appear on the local news to offer opinions on things criminal.  I remember a local columnist, Ian Warden, commenting on Wilson’s excessive publicity-seeking behaviour.  One opinion attributed to Wilson by Warden was that Canberra had a high homicide rate because the abundance of trees and other plants meant it was easier to dispose of bodies.

      Posted by IanMc on 2007 06 20 at 04:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. O/T

      Coldest June day in Brisbane since 1928, and coldest for June in Toowoomba since records began in 1869, if I heard the news correctly.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 20 at 04:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. The new ABC news site looks good – quite good, in fact.

      Pity the content doesn’t appear to have improved…

      Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 06 20 at 04:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. The “professor’ has made a very nice life – for himself-as a public parasite and charlatan over many, many years

      Cheers
      RodC

      Posted by Rod C on 2007 06 20 at 04:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. Professor Wilson is extremely well regarded by his students for his high opinion of their research / papers. He is always so impressed by their efforts he permits himself to piggy back their research for his latest books / article etc.  Sometimes even acknowledging the researcher formally.  Sometimes not.  Anyway, that was his reputation at QUT when my brother went through a course he taught.  I have no idea what he does at Bond Uni, except to see his face and worthless opinion in the media whenever they want an expert opinion on the latest crime spree.  They should just interview the local police patrol – they see and know more about crime and root causes than Wilson will ever discover from his “research”.

      Yeah I had the displeasure of walking in Brisbane City along George Street today – it should be renamed “wind-tunnel” street.  The wind was like sticking your head in a freezer being fanned by a … fan?

      Posted by peter m on 2007 06 20 at 04:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm.  So by Wilson’s logic, if only Hudson had established dialogue with Keilar…

      Posted by murph on 2007 06 20 at 04:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. Always with the dialogue.  Would it be too much to ask for a Churchillian action, this day?
      I too found myself in the city today and it was rather bracing.  Atleast it’s a toasty 13 degrees in the kitchen.

      Posted by lotocoti on 2007 06 20 at 04:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. So perfesser Wilson and Kimmy the not feminine feminist are in agreement. The only way to confront evil is through dialogue. Any cultural/religious/criminal tendencies can be addressed and corrected through mutually respectful conversation.  Isn’t that nice?  Everyone knows that bikers are the most loveable and cuddly creatures on the planet. They’re just misunderstood.
      Gawd!!!! May each and every pacifistic pseudo-intellectual talking head be bashed repeatedly like a baby seal with the clue-bat.  Do they also think we can re-educate pedophiles into understanding that their behavior is naughty?

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 20 at 05:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’m all for tying a rope around his waist, bags of eccy around his neck and throwing him into a bikie clubhouse as cheap bait.

      He can “dialogue” the shit out of them.

      Posted by CB on 2007 06 20 at 05:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. Of course, Hudson was completely oblivious to the fact that murder was wrong.  If only he’d had dialogue with a social worker, none of this would haev happened….

      Posted by murph on 2007 06 20 at 05:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Bikies”must be an Ozism of some kind.  Is it a generic name for motorcycle gang members, or the name of a specific gang?

      In the US, for example we have the Hells’ Angels and the Banditos, but they are all “bikers.”

      I ride a BMW, which makes me a target. LOL!

      Posted by Hucbald on 2007 06 20 at 05:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. #17 in Oz “bikies” are gang members.  The term “bikers” is less common and usually means legitimate motorcyclists.

      Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 20 at 05:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Here’s the rule of thumb that should be kept in mind when considering such folk:

      Give them an inch and they’ll take your life.
      But first, they’ll strap you to a chair and force you to watch your family members be raped, tortured and murdered one by one, then you’ll get your turn.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 20 at 05:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. I find it odd that after a major Bikie incident some loony prof wheels out the same spiel about not confronting them because it will make things worse.

      Is it beyond reason to assume that cash rich Bikies are paying for media friendly influence?

      Lets face it academe have become guns for hire to crazier people than Bikies.

      Posted by gubbaboy on 2007 06 20 at 06:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. In my opinion, ain’t nothin in this world,
      beats a ‘52 Vincent and a redheaded girl.

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 20 at 07:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #21….like a baseball bat?

      Posted by CB on 2007 06 20 at 07:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. They hate society and they hate the law, they are outlaws and revel in it.

      Here are some of there enlightened writings.

      (NOT WORK SAFE)

      Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 07:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. #22 …

      You’ll be needing a left-handed football bat.

      Posted by SSG Pooh on 2007 06 20 at 07:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. Obviously the biker gangs in Oz haven’t been infiltrated and destroyed by ‘boomer accountants and lawyers. Owning a chopper ain’t cool for actual outlaws anymore.

      Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 20 at 07:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #22 I was thinking tire iron, but yeah, baseball bat would get’er done.

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 20 at 07:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #24, SSG Pooh:

      You’ll be needing a left-handed football bat.

      That sounds like an interesting sport.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 20 at 07:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. #24 SSG Pooh:

      I’ve only ever heard of football bats being used in situations that are f*cked up. Common usage ‘round N. Fla would be “That boy’s beyond not right. He’s f*cked up as a football bat.”

      I would assume that a left-handed football bat is even more so.

      Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 20 at 07:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ned Kelly was a murderous dimwit who left children without fathers, but at least he showed some ticker in the end. The offender in this Melbourne murder (whoever it was) assaulted women and killed an unarmed man in cold blood, leaving 3 young kids behind.

      The tattoos and bikes and place of his arrest in no way cover up the fact that he is the lowest of cowardly maggots.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 20 at 07:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. The tattoos and bikes and place of his arrest in no way cover up the fact that he is the lowest of cowardly maggots.

      Margos Maid, you have besmirched the good name of all hard working maggots, who, unlike our cowardly killer, have a useful purpose in life.

      Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 08:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. #21 Ah, Texas Bob,
      nothing like my favourite guitarist, Richard Thompson.  Though his latest album, Sweet Warrior, does have an anti-war song on it – but even John Fogerty does that.

      Posted by SezaGeoff on 2007 06 20 at 08:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. What was his beef … his gal got too friendly with the Dutchie?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 20 at 08:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. #31 Correctamundo and thank you SezaGeoff for the nice catch! I don’t mind the occasional anti-war song as long as the artist doesn’t make the effort their life’s work (ie: Dixie Whores).  1952 Vincent Black Lightning is a great song, although I am more partial to Del Mccoury’s cover.  I stick with bluegrass whenever I can.

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 20 at 08:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. The only football bats I know are female Collingwood supporters.

      Posted by amortiser on 2007 06 20 at 08:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. There goes my preferred ending involving a hail of SOG bullets.

      Posted by Craig Mc on 2007 06 20 at 08:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. There goes my preferred ending involving a hail of SOG bullets.
      That is just so Victorian.

      Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 20 at 09:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. #32 nah, the dutch tourist and the solicitor didn’t know either the woman or the bikie.  They took exception to him dragging her about by the hair on a city street.

      Posted by entropy on 2007 06 20 at 09:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bikie gangs are crime gangs. Crime is how they pay the bills.

      But is it organized crime?

      I reckon they’re just a bunch of lifestyle misfits, with no declarable income and not much vision. I mean, where’s their ambition? Ya can’t take over the world just peddling hooch and a few small firearms. They need to get a bigger plan, make some strategic acquisitions… maybe even look into investment opportunities in today’s energy markets.

      Or alternatively, perhaps they just need a new religion. Any suggestions?

      Posted by splice on 2007 06 20 at 09:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hell’s Angels! I think I’ve got it!

      It’s time to put those ill gotten gains into secure investments for the future.

      In spite of what many analysts may say, whale blubber-based biofuel futures are trending bullish this quarter in a polar bear market for cetaceous products. So here’s a tip for all youse dollar flush bikies…

      Get a prospectus from Paco World Fisheries.

      Of course, there’s no need to go too clean too fast.

      Paco World Fisheries was deregistered in 1972 for over-fishing in international waters, and yes, the Tasmanian registered Chinese ship Pak Ho Bulker washed ashore at Byron Bay just this week in mild conditions. But these are minor transgressions that a simple knee-capping or inner city shooting can set straight. Overnight.

      Let’s not forget, with the global economy comes global warming. That means global responsibilities. The future of the gang is a global future.

      You might need to get used to cigarettes from places nobody ever heard of and chicks on the back of your bike that still can’t say a word that anybody can understand.

      So protect your image. Invest with Paco World.

      Posted by splice on 2007 06 20 at 09:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. #38:

      Gore’s Warmtruppen will be driving hybrid motorcycles…

      Posted by PW on 2007 06 20 at 10:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. I saw a documentary on this a few years ago, it seemed to say that some guys named “Bronze” would help.
      Just give Tex a Falcon coupe with a supercharger and a sawed off shotgun and everything should work out okay

      Posted by Veeshir on 2007 06 20 at 10:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. hell’s angels are arseholes impure & definitely not simple.  in melbourne they have been major players in the hydro dope & amphetamine trade for nearly 50 years.  their competitor gangs are no better.  very, very bad things happen to middle class girls with a taste for rough trade who hang out with them.  innocent bystanders get hurt. on monday one got killed.  it’s no accident the toerag who shot him surrendered at wallan cop shop.  there is a hell’s angel hangout at broadford.  every single clubhouse should be demolished tomorrow. if they try to build another one, demolish that too.  take away their bikes & cars & guns.  demand the lazy corrupt cops who tolerate them lift their game & make this criminal scum’s lives miserable.  dialogue with these knuckle dragging murderers is a complete waste of time, & wilson is a lunatic meeja whore

      Posted by KK on 2007 06 20 at 10:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. Who is going to pay for this toe rag’s 5-10 years in prison. Or whatever you get for murder in Victoria these days. Maybe the family of the murdered solicitor can contribute some taxes.

      Posted by mehaul on 2007 06 20 at 06:51 PM • permalink

 

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