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Last updated on July 23rd, 2017 at 09:29 am

Kyoto is bad for trees:

Wairarapa forest owners are being short-changed by the Government’s Kyoto policies, says Denis Hocking of the NZ Farm Forestry Association …

Mr Hocking said that instead of reaping the rewards from helping New Zealand meet its Kyoto commitments, local foresters are finding that their forest sink credits (the carbon credits they earn from planting trees) are being used to bail out their competitors.

Wood products compete with aluminium, plastic and steel, but the Government is re-allocating the credits earned by foresters to companies operating in those industries.

“The worry we’ve got is they’re our competition and they’re getting our credits,” Mr Hocking said. “Effectively they will be subsidised by forestry.”

Meanwhile, deforestation is progressing at a rapid rate as foresters turn over their land to pasture for dairy cows and sheep.

I take back all my criticism of Kyoto. This result is absolutely beautiful.

Posted by Tim B. on 08/30/2005 at 04:17 AM
    1. Checkmate! Argument lost.

      Posted by Hank Reardon on 2005 08 30 at 05:38 AM • permalink


    1. Ah Kyoto! The gift that keeps on giving!

      Posted by debi L. on 2005 08 30 at 05:40 AM • permalink


    1. Don’t Worry Kyoto (Mummy’s Only Looking For A Hand In Your Pocket)

      Posted by guinsPen on 2005 08 30 at 05:44 AM • permalink


    1. Andrew Jaspan will be outraged:

      Douglas Wood to testify against captors

      I mean…the ingratitude!

      Posted by Quentin George on 2005 08 30 at 08:47 AM • permalink


    1. The best argument for rightwing policies is accurately documenting what happens whenever lefties get even a whiff of control over the people they view as inferior.

      Posted by Rob Read on 2005 08 30 at 10:03 AM • permalink


    1. Well, if you susidize a thing, you get more of it. It looks like NZ is in for more aluminum, plastic, steel and . . .sheep? Does NZ really need more sheep? It would be ironic, as well as tragic, if Kyoto wound up turning NZ into something resembling Easter Island. Perhaps the country could be dotted with great stone likenesses of pro-Kyoto politicians.

      Posted by paco on 2005 08 30 at 10:53 AM • permalink


    1. Is there any government law, regulation, or treaty that doesn’t have unintended consequences?

        Adam Smith wrote about the Invisible Hand of private enterprise, but clearly there’s an invisible hand of government that creates disorder everywhere it goes.

      As the noted philosopher Ringo Starr pointed out, “Everything government touches turns to crap”.

      Posted by JayC on 2005 08 30 at 11:04 AM • permalink


    1. But then they subsidize the crap-shovelers.  It’s all part of the circle of life!  OT:  Anyone down under have a use for Spotted Owl feathers?  How about Snail-Darter skins?  I’m all out of freshly-clubbed baby Harp Seal pelts, but I’m expecting a shipment on Monday.

      Posted by crusher_of_libs on 2005 08 30 at 01:10 PM • permalink


    1. #6. Paco, you may be on to something, re:  NZ = Easter Island.  From here, it’s only a matter of time before the lefties start eating each other.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 08 30 at 01:47 PM • permalink


    1. #5, Rob: yeah, but then you are using facts, doncha know?  Lefties loathe facts. 

      Rebecca: hmmmmmmmm, reduction of the leftie population through cannibalism.  What an intriguing idea!!!!!

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 30 at 02:20 PM • permalink


    1. This is just another example of the never-ending story:  you can con almost anyone if you do it in the name of a Good Cause.  Obviously, some of NZ’s sheep are writing their laws!

      Posted by Tom on 2005 08 30 at 02:40 PM • permalink


    1. Wood products compete with aluminium, plastic and steel, but the Government is re-allocating the credits earned by foresters to companies operating in those industries.

        Aluminium!!!  Where do you think all of the moonbats hats come from?

      Posted by crusher_of_libs on 2005 08 30 at 03:56 PM • permalink


    1. What the big print giveth, the fine print taketh away

      Posted by 13times on 2005 08 30 at 05:00 PM • permalink


    1. Oooh!  the irony!

      Posted by rog2 on 2005 08 30 at 05:13 PM • permalink


    1. #4 did you notice how the MSM insists one day that Woods is nearly blind, and the next day claims he has the eyes of an eagle? What’s with that?

      Posted by larrikin on 2005 08 30 at 07:56 PM • permalink


    1. This Kyoto episode in New Zealand is enough to make a cat laugh. You can’t make this stuff up.

      Posted by Mick Gill on 2005 08 30 at 08:04 PM • permalink


    1. #7 Probably not.  However, the current thought in mainstream microeconomics is that market forces do not necessarily deliver optimal outcomes.  Indeed, equilibrium does not require all factors of production (read individuals) to consume any resources.  However, the underlying assumptions, somewhat paradoxically, require them to continue to exist.

      Government’s role, in these circumstances, is to ensure a safety net for individuals to subsist. While politicians, being politicians, often go beyond what is minimally required, at least legislation is transparent.  Unfortunately the machinations of bureaucracy is often not.  It is the Sir Humphreys that turn things to crap as they impose their own ideology.

      Posted by noir on 2005 08 30 at 08:05 PM • permalink


    1. Hooray, we’re back on the tracks!
      ~ Chico Marx ~

      Posted by guinsPen on 2005 08 30 at 08:15 PM • permalink


    1. There’s something corrupt going on around my pants but I just can’t seem to locate it.

      ~ Groucho Marx ~

      Posted by noir on 2005 08 30 at 08:20 PM • permalink


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