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Doug Bandow offers a spirited defence against claims he’d beclowned himself. Well, that’s being kind; others may only see further beclowning.
- Sure it’s Bandow and not Beppow?Posted by Habib on 2007 02 20 at 10:12 PM • permalink
- I think Doug must have written that while wearing his Clown Shoes of Stupidity.Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 02 20 at 10:20 PM • permalink
- Dear Doug
Here’s the deal.
I will write comments favourable to you and your cause in return for, say, $2,000 a comment. As a special bonus, I won’t tell anybody about this.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 20 at 10:24 PM • permalink
- The first one is free, Doug, after that I expect recompense…
Tim, Tim, you think your cool? Hah! No way!
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 20 at 10:27 PM • permalink
- its elemental my dear Doug, logic involves a conclusion based on a valid proposition. For example:
1. Doug is one of gazillions of former staffers to President Ronald Reagan;
2. everybody knows Reagan was a great president and beat the commies;
3. therefore, Doug knows what he’s talking about and everybody should do what he says (although thank god, Reagan didn’t).
- Margos Maid
Nice link. Sounds like a chap grasping for relevance (or another sugar daddy).
Anti-war.com, The group for complete isolationism, wonder what the world would look like if they got their wish?Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 20 at 10:32 PM • permalink
- #4 MM – So he’s a small-time crook then. Why are we even bothering with him?Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 02 20 at 10:43 PM • permalink
- El Cid
Eeeew might do it after a few cleansing ales, looks like a sewerage pond for failed logic.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 20 at 10:55 PM • permalink
- So that’s a spirited defense, eh, Mr. Bandow? Well, as Rebecca said……
WTH? He merely repeated what he said before, which is what got him tagged as beclowned in the first place. Who’s failing elementary logic here?
More to the point, Mr. Bandow, this is how you should be responding:
1) The U.S. should get out of Iraq.
This is an opinion, offered as a fact in the form of an assertion. In short, a rhetorical device constructed solely to deceive people, and build momentum for follow on statements. This generally works only with fools, tools, and stupid people.
Australia’s Prime Minister John Howard (as well as the foreign ministers of Turkey and Egypt, whom I also cited) shouldn’t tell America otherwise.
This is merely an opinion that you are entitled to offer, but it does follow from your previous assertion. Although I am puzzled as to how you think that some world leaders can comment on the US policy in Iraq (e,g., Chirac and Chavez), while others can’t. Unless, of course, you are not in favor of open and honest discourse.
It’s nice that Australia is helping out in Iraq, but it’s not doing that much, frankly, so we have to make our own decision.
This is a silly comment, given how unilateralism was so unpopular a short while ago. However, many people want the US to cut and run from Iraq, so I suppose that’s another form of multilateralism.
But then you pat Australia on the head and tell them what nice people they are for helping out, and now please leave! Condescending and insulting at the same time. Very nice form, but more than a little rude.
2) Australia should get out of Iraq.
This is an opinion, offered as a ….. oh, heck, just read my first comment after your #1! It’s the same thing, rewritten for Down Under. Sheesh, can’t you be original?
The Howard government should make a decision based on its own interests and not let U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney, who’s been wrong about everything regarding Iraq, tell it otherwise.
And how do you know that PM Howard followed the orders of VP Cheney in regards to Iraq? Copies of secret communiques, perhaps? Sworn depositions from witnesses? Signal intercepts? Just more assertions, largely based on the myth that Cheney is ruling the world from behind Bush.
It’s my considered opinion, based on Howard’s actions (such as his recent efforts to revamp the Australian immigration bureaucracy), is that Howard is his own man. You might note that Bush (or should I say Cheney?) has moved in pretty much the opposite direction.
See, that’s simple.
On this one point, we agree.
But I guess elemental logic is not necessary for blogging, so what the heck!
It’s not, as you have so clearly demonstrated.
It’s sad that Mr. Blair Mr. Bandow failed elemental logic.
Thought I’d make that one little correction!
Oh, and by the way…..this is known as Fisking. Enjoy!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 20 at 11:27 PM • permalink
- Doug, here’s a logic lesson. To make it nice and relevant, I’ll use your words to illustrate.
1) The U.S. should get out of Iraq.
apart from being a matter of opinion, that’s called changing the topic. This was always about your opinion that
2) Australia’s Prime Minister John Howard (as well as the foreign ministers of Turkey and Egypt, whom I also cited) shouldn’t tell America otherwise.
this was your original conclusion, based on the fact that Australia had not committed significant resources and was therefore not qualified to comment. This was contradicted by your later statement that Australia should withdraw from Iraq. You want to have it both ways: criticize Australia for being there, and criticize Australia for not being there. With double-speak like that, I can see that you were a natural for politics.
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 02 20 at 11:40 PM • permalink
- Dammit TRJ, you got in first (and did it better)!Posted by daddy dave on 2007 02 20 at 11:41 PM • permalink
- Is OK, daddy dave, you hit points that I missed. Either way, it doesn’t matter. Your fisking is good!
Oh, Mr. Bandow? My earlier comment remains firmly in place.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 21 at 12:38 AM • permalink
- The Dougster is being disappointingly slow coming up with my cash for comment, maybe he is a bit short at the moment.
I say, Doug, for a measley $1,000 I will happily do sarcastic outbursts, and $500 gets a mild rebuke. Deal?
In the meantime, I would urge readers to consider taking up smoking with any one of the excellent lung-cleansing products offered by the Philip Morris Corporation as recommended by 9 out of 10 doctors/tribal chiefs from the horn of Africa.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 21 at 12:51 AM • permalink
- So, Bandow now cites his own opinions and declares them to be “elemental logic.”
His self-beclownening continues apace then…
(Actually, might it not be easier at this point to just say he’s Bandowed himself?)
Posted by Frogwhistle on 2007 02 21 at 01:18 AM • permalink
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Hey You Twat, Get On The Qat!
- Habib
There was a story a year or 2 ago about a lady in one of the major cities here in Oz being (initaly) asked by African migrants if they could gather leaves from her tree. She thought it was odd and said yes.
I believe she ended up getting the tree cut down because it got out of hand with people jumping the fence at night and stuff.
Yes it was a Qat (sic) tree.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 21 at 01:41 AM • permalink
- #6 larrikin
Reagan did indeed have gazillions of staffers, including the self-appointed “chairman” of the modern-day America First Committee, Patrick J. “No Blood For Jooz” Buchanan.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 21 at 02:21 AM • permalink
- I was thinking more the weskit of weaselboy or even the monocle of micropenis myself.
A Fez of fatuousness would complete the outfit nicely.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 21 at 07:15 AM • permalink
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