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Last updated on August 9th, 2017 at 03:13 pm

Author Kurt Vonnegut visits Ohio State to educate young minds:

“The only difference between Bush and Hitler,” says Kurt Vonnegut, “is that Hitler was elected. You all know, of course, that the election was stolen. Right here.” (In Ohio)

UPDATE. Here’s a longer version of the column linked above. Highlights: “I just want to say that George W. Bush is the syphilis president” and “I’m trying to write a novel about the end of the world. But the world is really ending!”

UPDATE II. A fan’s review: “He’s not what he used to be.” Plus: pictures.

UPDATE III. It’s been a great week for informing the kids:

I’m not saying Bush and Hitler are exactly the same, obviously they’re not. OK? But there are some eerie similarities to the tones that they use.

As they say in the photocopier business: it’s all about tone.

Posted by Tim B. on 03/04/2006 at 10:13 PM
    1. His writing was very uneven, and now senility has him in its grip.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 03 04 at 10:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. If this story doesn’t end up with Kurt Vonnegut being dragged off by secret police, then I’m going to suggest that there is quite a substantive difference.

      Vonnegut is also a supporter of suicide bombers whom he describes as “very brave people”. Basically he’s a malevolent clown.

      Posted by Ross on 2006 03 04 at 10:41 PM • permalink

 

    1. “I’’m trying to write a novel…”
      That’s what this Nazi-lover Hun has been at for a long time, which resulted in some trash long ago that has now been long forgotten. He hasn’t published even dog poop for 30 years, and so now, like all those who drool after media attention like the hag Sin-dy and Michael the Moorish posterior licker, he attacks GWB well aware that the MSM will lick up his droppings and sail his senile rantings along with those of the banana counter from Jamaica. (BTW, Hitler was elected with never another election in Nazi Germany. I think the USA will have another in November. No, Kurt, don’t you believe it, Ya? You can relax that outstretched arm, Kurt, Hitler is dead, believe it finally.

      Posted by stats on 2006 03 04 at 10:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hitler wasn’t actually elected. His party got less than 50% of the seats, but von Papen and others eventually gave him the position of Chancellor, after they failed to get a stable majority government.

      Posted by Evil Pundit on 2006 03 04 at 10:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. This is very sad for me personally. He was one of my favorite writers when I was a young twerp. Now I agree, senile dementia has taken hold of him, while I have grown out of a youthful flirtation with leftism. The sentiments he expresses are depraved and evil.

      Posted by Latino on 2006 03 04 at 10:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. I wonder if Chris Sheil has a “Vonnegut” feeling about this one.

      Posted by Nic on 2006 03 04 at 10:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. That’s right, EP, in the Weimar republic, the Chancellor was appointed by the president.

      The Nazis never held anything near 50% of the seats in the Reichstag, and at the immediate election prior to Hitler’s appointment, the Nazi party’s share of seats in the Reichstag had dropped considerably. It’s quite probable that the NSDAP’s power would have peaked in mid-1932 if Hitler never became Chancellor.

      Hitler was appointed by President Hindenberg largely on the advice of then powerbroker von Papen, who thought Hitler would be his puppet. He was quite wrong and the rest is history.

      Anyway, Hitler was never elected.

      Posted by James Waterton on 2006 03 04 at 11:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Reading between the lines of that article, it’s easy to see that at least some of those students probably weren’t so much rapt and reverent as they were stunned by the disjointed senile ramblings of someone they thought they admired.  Vonnegut’s picture even looks like the crazy old aunt in the attic.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 03 04 at 11:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. I could never stand him. I could never see what was the big deal about his writing either. He seemed to me to be another of those overrated beloved-by-Baby-Boomers writers like whoever wrote Catcher in the Rye.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 03 04 at 11:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. “I’m trying to write a novel about the end of the world. But the world is really ending! It’s becoming more and more uninhabitable because of our addiction to oil.

      “Bush used that line recently,” Vonnegut adds. “I should sue him for plagiarism.”

      Yeah, pops, and I’m sure you’ll shortly be receiving a summons from the guy who said it before you.

      Posted by James Waterton on 2006 03 04 at 11:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Who the hell is this asshole, beside a has been writer?

      Does anyone really think George Bush really cares what this broken down old and probably alcohol sotted bastard has to say?
      And I should sue Vonnegut for the use of my copyright on the words “I’m trying to write a novel about the end of the world”.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 03 04 at 11:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. Senility in the guise of intellect

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 03 04 at 11:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hate his novels, hate his senile political views. Only decent thing he ever did was his role in the Rodney Dangerfield film, Back to School, and only then because his role was written by Rodney Dangerfield.

      Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 03 04 at 11:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Latino — Only sensible thing I ever read in the LA Weekly (on the way to the strip club coupons, I swear) was Michael Ventura, think it was, explaining that writers like Vonnegut and Ellison were what adolescents read between YA novels and read literature…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 04 at 11:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Blair — You sent us to a MySpace site hosted by Poeta-Mexi Warrior and two out of focus pictures.  WTFH?!

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 04 at 11:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Whatever happened to rebellion?

      Very sad, indeed, watching the unthinking little ones ape the worst of their elders. Question authority:  that would be Vonnegut.

      I’m sure there were lots of tie-dye shirts there, too.

      Posted by Patricia on 2006 03 04 at 11:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. And I have it on good authority that Signal never e-mailed voters in Ohio, so that’s proof that Bush is EVEN WORSE than Hitler

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 04 at 11:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. my personal fave bit:

      As he accepts the students’ standing ovation with characteristic dignity and grace, not a few tears come from young people who are wise enough to appreciate what they are seeing.

      I bet. Vonnigut’s ass-licker wants us to know the old rascal still has a twinkle in his eye:

      Then he leans back. “You’re awful cute” he says to someone in the front row. He grins and looks around. “If this isn’t nice, what is?

      Due to advancing dementia and degrading eyesight he was probably referring to someone’s golden retriever

      Posted by Amos on 2006 03 04 at 11:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Bluebeard was an interesting work.  And Mother Night makes a pretty good point about being what you pretend to be.

      Still, if my fantasy of becoming world dictator every comes true, Kurt takes a turn on the Giant Slingshot Of Retribution.  Just behind Depak Chopra, just ahead of Oprah.

      Posted by Konocon on 2006 03 05 at 12:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. There’s no fool like an old fool.

      Posted by mongo78 on 2006 03 05 at 12:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. Personally, I don’t think Vonnegut’s problem is due to senility or dementia; he started his downhill slide into madness and/or idiocy years ago.  About the same time he wrote Slaughterhouse Five, in fact.  Perhaps his old age has aggravated his problems, but this is not anything new.

      My real problem with Slaughterhouse Five was not its anti-war stance; my problem centered on his moral relativism in the book.  Vonnegut came across as saying that the Allies were as bad as the Nazis….largely because of the Dresden fire bomb raid, which he himself went through while a POW.

      Sound familiar, people?  Yep, Vonnegut anticipated the leftie stance on the Iraq war, where the lefties labeled the US as bad as Saddam Hussein.

      No wonder he can speak to the masses collections of leftie idiots….he effectively wrote the book.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 03 05 at 12:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. Latino — Only sensible thing I ever read in the LA Weekly (on the way to the strip club coupons, I swear) was Michael Ventura, think it was, explaining that writers like Vonnegut and Ellison were what adolescents read between YA novels and read real{?} literature…

      Too true, Richard.  That’s exactly when I read Vonnegut and Ellison.  And I haven’t since.  Thank GOD.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 03 05 at 12:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. I read one of his books. Once. At one point, he wrote that the German army was a Christian army, because their symbol was a cross.

      Uh-huh. So apparently the US Army was an army of astrologers.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 05 at 12:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm.

      And I supposed the United States Marine Corps are a bunch of anchor worshippers?

      Oh Holy Anchor!  What are the lottery numbers for tomorrow?

      Sounds just as absurd as the bit about the cross.

      Posted by memomachine on 2006 03 05 at 12:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm.

      But maybe there’s more going on than Fox wants us to think.

      (from the long version of the article)

      Fox?  As in Fox News?  As if Fox News give’s a rat’s arse what this person thinks.

      Man they get boring really early in life.

      Posted by memomachine on 2006 03 05 at 12:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. I read one of his books after he was highly recommended, Ice Nine, I think, and couldn’t see the point. There were tons of better writers and shelves full of better science fiction. He may not be quite as irrelevant as that other 60’s fave, the harmless Richard Brautigan, but he was close. I didn’t like The Crying of Lot 69 or Gravity’s Rainbow either. I think God made me a boomer to test my soul, I just can’t figure if I am passing or not.

      Posted by charlesr on 2006 03 05 at 01:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. that rant by bennish is hilarious. the man deserves a medal, not being sent on leave. he has shown his class just how paranoid the left is.  & my hasn’t the teaching of geography come a long way…

      #26 i remember trout fishing in america with great fondness – it made me retreat to real books, which have proven a continuing treat

      Posted by KK on 2006 03 05 at 01:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. Rich #14, that is exactly right. In my case at least.

      Posted by Latino on 2006 03 05 at 01:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. kurt vonnegut should get back to his weiner republic.

      Posted by vinny on 2006 03 05 at 03:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. Like Leunig. Start out quirky and beguiling but ossification and pontification sets in…

      CUT!!

      Posted by Henry boy on 2006 03 05 at 03:48 AM • permalink

 

    1. What kind of an idiot compares an American Presidenial Election which is an “indirect2 election through an Electoral College with a parliamentary system ?

      I suppose next he thinks Congress should be dismissed by the President and fresh elections called.

      Are all authors in the US as ignorant of their own constitutional arrangements ?

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 03 05 at 04:48 AM • permalink

 

    1. Consitutional? Oh .. yeah, like that’s when we don’t like something and we say it’s unconstitutional. And then we go around the elected representatives and the executive and get a judge to rule against the thing we don’t like. That’s all we need to know about the constitution.
      /sarc

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 03 05 at 06:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear Kurt,

      Comparing Bush to Hitler is so old and so lame that people can’t even be bothered satirising it any more. You are meant to be an author (although most of us grew out of your work by about twenty), so when you slander your president please try to invent an interesting and novel slander.

      P.S. “syphilis president” is pretty lame too. Try to do better.

      Posted by Burbank on 2006 03 05 at 08:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. #14 Richard, I think you’re right about this. It’s been so long since I read anything by either of them that I can’t even remember any of the plots. The only thing I remember about Vonnegut’s stuff is that it seemed tedious, pretentious and left a bad taste in my mouth (I suspect due to the moral equivalence another poster mentioned).

      Posted by Burbank on 2006 03 05 at 08:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. Even when I read Slaughterhouse 5 back in 1960-something, I knew that, OK Kurt, war is bad and all, yes, but sometimes it is necessary even if civilians die, and I chalked up his pacifistic sensibilities as an understandable reaction to what he had undergone as a POW. But this crap he spews now, there is just no excuse, it is so vile, hateful and deranged. I have absolutely no use for leftards of any generation who will not defend the West.

      Posted by Latino on 2006 03 05 at 09:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. Consitutional?

      Hell no – its about reading Articles 1, 2, 3 of that Document – not about any Court. I think you would agree that the President sits in The White House and not The House; that he is the only elected person in the Executive and that he is elected indirectly and not directly.

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 03 05 at 10:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. #26, charlesr.I think God made me a boomer to test my soul, I just can’t figure if I am passing or not. 

      You’re doing better than I am.  I only tried to read one Vonnegut book, Slaughterhouse 5, and I couldn’t get through it.  I don’t think I’m passing Boomerdom 101 at all, because there’s a whole raft of stuff that doesn’t make sense to me.

      I agree with Malkin about that geography teacher:  he needs medical help.  I’m willing to bet if they dig deep enough, they’ll find out he’s been doing some illicit paranoia-inducing drugs.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 03 05 at 12:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. Vonnegut’s stuff has always reminded me of gnats for some reason.

      Chief among the (very few) things I remember about his body of ‘work’ was being forced to read the crap – at grade point – by a mousey procession of totalitarian-minded teachers; who’s sweaty armpit hairs invariably overflowed their worn out paisley sundresses in some zenish juxtaposition of both the best and worst qualities of summer.

      “You veeel LIKE reading thiiiz ~insert crappy Vonnegut title~!
      <smacks hand with ruler>

      Posted by monkeyfan on 2006 03 05 at 12:55 PM • permalink

 

  • a mousey procession of totalitarian-minded teachers; who’s sweaty armpit hairs invariably overflowed their worn out paisley sundresses

    The women were worse.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 05 at 12:56 PM • permalink

 

 

 

    1. Nope, now end italics. 🙂

      Anyway…

      “The only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected. You all know, of course, that the election was stolen. Right here.”

      Hitler stole his election in Ohio?

      Posted by PW on 2006 03 05 at 03:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. </i>

      Fixed?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 05 at 03:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. ANDREA!!!

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 05 at 03:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. Fixeed?

      Posted by Quentin George on 2006 03 05 at 04:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hitler stole his election in Ohio?

      Apparently so, PW.  Or so claim the academic intellectuals parading their pomposity to porous pupils.  Someone musta re-written history.  Again.

      Maybe wronwright ought to warm up the Tardis……

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 03 05 at 05:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. I just hope this was a young class. You see, the younger kids can still figure out that if Bush were nearly as bad as his detractors claim, they sure as hell wouldn’t be hearing about it in government schools. But after a few years of brainwashing, they’ll believe anything.

      Posted by Nathan on 2006 03 05 at 06:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. I wasn’t being facetious in #47, by the way. I’m in college, and I guarantee you my eight-year-old sister can reason better than a majority of my classmates. And thank God she’s homeschooled.

      Posted by Nathan on 2006 03 05 at 06:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. I seem to remember reading ‘Sirens of Titan’ under the mistaken impression that it was science fiction.  (Well, it was weird, anyway.)  And I read ‘Cat’s Cradle’ and ‘Player Piano’ and ‘God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater’ and, you know, I don’t remember the first thing about any of them.  I can remember books I read back to age 9 or so, and I can’t remember anything useful about any of these.

      I read ‘Slaughterhous Five’ and wasn’t impressed.  It dragged.  I barely remember the name Billy Pilgrim and the cooler or ice house or meat locker or whatever the hell it was.

      In the late ‘80s or so I made a real attempt to read ‘Galapagos’ because my roommate had it.  I kept starting over, thinking I was missing something.  I finally totally gave it up about 80 pages in because *NOTHING WAS FREAKIN’ HAPPENING!!*  Sheeesh.

      Over-rated, overripe, due for decomposition.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 03 05 at 07:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. monkeyfan — these italics are coming out of your budget…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 05 at 08:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sorry ya’ll, thanks for closing the breech –

      I’ll just pop on over to webdairy webdiary for an udder cup of italics.

      Posted by monkeyfan on 2006 03 06 at 03:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. <Halfhearted drum hit>

      Posted by monkeyfan on 2006 03 06 at 03:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. Evil Pundit 4

      Hitler wasn’t actually elected. His party got less than 50% of the seats, but von Papen and others eventually gave him the position of Chancellor, after they failed to get a stable majority government.

      I dimly recall being spectacularly wrong about this point, on this very blog, a few short weeks ago.  Maybe if Kurt V read this stuff, he’d … nahhh

      Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 03 06 at 05:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. Kurt never was “what he used to be”.

      Posted by Crossie on 2006 03 06 at 09:58 PM • permalink

 

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