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Place your bets, folks; how many years is Fat Dave going away for?


UPDATE II. “My story,” writes Shannon, “bears some frightening resemblance to the plight of David Hicks.”

Posted by Tim B. on 03/30/2007 at 12:51 AM
    1. A Tenner. Rather than the three tenners (consecutively) I would have given him.

      Posted by Zoe Brain on 2007 03 30 at 12:53 AM • permalink


    1. One for every sit up he can do: 7 years plus salad bar.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 03 30 at 12:56 AM • permalink


    1. I agree with Zoe – 10 years but reduced to five on time served.


      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 03 30 at 12:56 AM • permalink


    1. He’ll be out in five.

      Posted by tabitharuth on 2007 03 30 at 12:57 AM • permalink


    1. Not sure if these sweepstakes are open to non-Aussies, but I’ll go with 15.

      Posted by PW on 2007 03 30 at 01:00 AM • permalink


    1. …and on the Labor frontbench in six.

      Posted by Vexorg on 2007 03 30 at 01:01 AM • permalink


    1. Two. Unfortunately.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 03 30 at 01:02 AM • permalink


    1. Less then three years.

      Posted by armageddon on 2007 03 30 at 01:03 AM • permalink


    1. Time served plus three – a total of eight years.

      Plus, no copy of Harry Potter and the Elders of Zion


      Posted by fidens on 2007 03 30 at 01:03 AM • permalink


    1. None, this bet is a no brainer. I reckon his former comrades will want a chat with him, along with the Indian government.
      But just in case; 5 years.
      Under Labor; taxpayer funded compensation and counselling and a statue next to Al Grasby, or a job with John Stanhope in Canberra.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 01:09 AM • permalink


    1. Make that only two. Unfortunately.

      Posted by ann j on 2007 03 30 at 01:10 AM • permalink


    1. I reckon fifteen, less the five done.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 03 30 at 01:11 AM • permalink


    1. From the sounds of his ex father inlaw he might be getting a shotgun to the chest.

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 03 30 at 01:16 AM • permalink


    1. Are we talking Australian years or Indian years?

      Aussie years:  3
      Indian years (following the above):  25

      Posted by Kaboom on 2007 03 30 at 01:18 AM • permalink


    1. To paraphrase Mark Latham, I reckon Hicks will be home and out of jail/gaol by Christmas.  I suspect he’ll get a little bit more than the 5 years served (i.e. a small sentence once the 5 years are taken into account) followed by a prisoner transfer to Australia, after which the US wont care if there’s a low-key controlled-release or whatever.

      I wonder what Mamdouh Habib did, relative to David Hicks?  At this stage it doesnt seem Hicks actually did that much.

      Posted by IanMc on 2007 03 30 at 01:20 AM • permalink


    1. He will not get anything like what Lindh managed to bargain for. Afterall Hicks is not an American and therefore was lucky enough to go to Guantanamo Bay rather than cop the full force of the law the US reserves for its own citizens.

      My guess is he will get three to five at most, will be in Adelaide by June and out by Christmas.

      The fat prick might even walk.

      Posted by geoff on 2007 03 30 at 01:22 AM • permalink


    1. The fat prick might even walk.

      Combined with a calorie controlled diet he might even be able to run one day.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 03 30 at 01:25 AM • permalink


    1. 10 years, out in 5 – Perks will include offers of a mega money book and TV deals, rock star like offers of free sex from starry eyed leftist terror groupies and a congratulatory hand job from John Pilger.

      Posted by bondo on 2007 03 30 at 01:28 AM • permalink


    1. 8, Minus the five served, = 3

      I sentence him to live with some of his supporters. Mad Marilyn is a croweater, I suggest she be the first to share his comfy cell.

      Posted by Nic on 2007 03 30 at 01:32 AM • permalink


    1. I reckon 2 years plus time served…

      Posted by anthony_r on 2007 03 30 at 01:32 AM • permalink


    1. I’ll go for the same as Habib, fifteen, less the five already served.

      Unfortunately.  If we can’t hang him, I’d settle for 50 years.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 03 30 at 01:33 AM • permalink


    1. My ideal scenario is : the tribunal chairman takes on board the prosecution’s recommendation of a sentence of 10 less the 5 served, and then ignores it completely on the grounds that they have to send out the strongest possible message to other would-be traitors that this is a game you play for keeps, then proceeds to give him 20 with no reduction for the time spent as a POW.

      Posted by CO² max on 2007 03 30 at 01:33 AM • permalink


    1. Fifteen total, ten to serve.

      It will be interesting to see if the Indians want to have a chat with him over his little bit of shooting practice into Kashmir.

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 03 30 at 01:35 AM • permalink


    1. If Australia was fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan, and David Hicks was fighting alongside the Taliban against coalition forces, couldn’t he be tried for treason in Australia?  And wouldn’t this be independent of any trial in the US?

      Posted by TimShell on 2007 03 30 at 01:42 AM • permalink


    1. 10 max, 5 max to serve.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 01:42 AM • permalink


    1. Johnny Jihad minus time served equals


      Posted by Astonished on 2007 03 30 at 01:43 AM • permalink


    1. I think John Walker Lindh got 20, so my guess is a substantial reduction on that: 25%. Make it 15 years (including time served).

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 03 30 at 01:45 AM • permalink


    1. “Place your bets, folks; how many years is Fat Dave going away for?”

      So you guys DEFINITELY don’t hang people anymore?  Because I’m cool with “Fat Dave going away for” ever.

      Posted by blogagog on 2007 03 30 at 01:48 AM • permalink


    1. #24
      AFAIK he wasn’t fighting with an official armed service, the military guys can give an appraisal, I’m sure …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 01:49 AM • permalink


    1. #28 – Nup. Waste of bloody time having all these lamp posts.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 03 30 at 01:53 AM • permalink


    1. Three in Yatala and two with Jenny Craig.

      Photo taken at recent Hicks love in. Image courtesy of Reuters

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 03 30 at 01:56 AM • permalink


    1. Can’t you figure it out ? Don’t you read the Tandberg cartoons at The Age ?

      John Howard will carefully manipulate events so that Hicks will be released in time for the election. It will be just like Tampa again. I promise you, its just like 9-11, the government is pulling the strings !

      Its so simple, I can’t believe none of you figured it out ! Unleash your minds to use the brain !

      Posted by Jono on 2007 03 30 at 01:58 AM • permalink


    1. If they him go, its an injustice, if they put him away, it’ll provide the moonbat civil libertarians with yet more martyrdom milking opportunities.

      Posted by Dan__W on 2007 03 30 at 02:01 AM • permalink


    1. How many years he’s sentenced is one thing, how many he serves is dependent on who wins the next election.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 03 30 at 02:05 AM • permalink


    1. Can’t see him doing more than another three back here.  But with any luck, they’ll put him in the cell next to Marcus Einfeld.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 03 30 at 02:14 AM • permalink


    1. Who knows… add some airline food on the way home and coronary heart disease might get ‘im before he even touches down in Oz.

      Posted by splice on 2007 03 30 at 02:16 AM • permalink


    1. Three years, if they keep him in solitary. Out in the general populace – he’ll see next Christmas if he’s lucky.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 03 30 at 02:22 AM • permalink


    1. However long it is, it won’t be long enough.

      #31, Whale Spinor, thanks for the Reuters link.  I was completely unaware that Mercedes had their own special diet.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 03 30 at 02:26 AM • permalink


    1. Lindh was complicit in the murder of a CIA operative (As I understand the case).  Hicks ought not to get more than five years.  He’s mostly just irretrievably stupid, which isn’t much of a crime, really.  Or, if it is, all libs are guilty… Hey, that gives me an idea!

      Posted by Hucbald on 2007 03 30 at 02:30 AM • permalink


    1. Let’s hope he gets the right aeroplane.

      (via Bolta)

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 03 30 at 02:31 AM • permalink


    1. Home Sweet Home for Mohammud: (from the Daily Telegraph)

      If Hicks is relocated to Australia in coming weeks or months, he will probably be transferred to Yatala’s G-division, the highest security facility in South Australia.

      John Justin Bunting and Robert Joe Wagner – the men behind the gruesome Snowtown serial murders – are both jailed at Yatala. One of the state’s most deranged criminals, Bevan Spencer von Einem, also shares a cell at Yatala.

      He is the ringleader of the notorious group of paedophiles and murderers dubbed the “Family”. The group was behind the sex killings of five young men in Adelaide between 1979 and 1983.

      While other inmates may be famous for their heinous crimes, none is more colourful than killer Michael Barry Fyfe, nicknamed the Birdman of Yatala because he was once allowed to keep a rainbow lorikeet in his cell as a pet.

      Perhaps ominously for Hicks, Fyfe has a habit of turning on fellow inmates. He was serving a 25-year sentence for attempted murder and assault in 1995 when he stabbed Trevor Tilley, a former policeman turned rapist, to death in the prison kitchen.
      He has since assaulted and attempted to kill other inmates, admitting to Yatala prison authorities that he finds it difficult to control his temper.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 03 30 at 02:40 AM • permalink


    1. Seven, I reckon. Take away five, add two. Then good luck Davey in an Oz prison. The plumper you are, the better they like you.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 02:41 AM • permalink


    1. …how many years is Fat Dave going away for?

      Not enough.

      How many days will he live after he gets out?

      Too many.

      Posted by profeti on 2007 03 30 at 02:43 AM • permalink


    1. He won`t get anywhere near what he deserves.
      Imagine if he had been in front of Pat O`shane? TMB.

      Posted by haranton on 2007 03 30 at 02:47 AM • permalink


    1. He will get 5 years and be released into the care of Bob Brown and Marylin Sheep-herd for 6 months. After a week he will appeal the severity of this and beg for it to be reduced to life without the possibility of parole if “they just get them to shut up”

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 30 at 02:53 AM • permalink


    1. I’m going to be optimistic and guess that he’ll get the max, minus 5. Lets not forget that the judges, not the prosecution have the final say on the sentence. They might be inclined to punish Hicks as much as possible after hearing him testify about the exact nature of his guilt.

      Posted by AussieJim on 2007 03 30 at 02:57 AM • permalink


    1. #41

      And this tasty welcoming committee will be counting down the hours until their new friend arrives. Oh to be a fly on the wall.

      Posted by CO² max on 2007 03 30 at 02:57 AM • permalink


    1. This is the leader of the VRWC. All my concerns have been erased. No, seriously, they have.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 03 30 at 03:17 AM • permalink


    1. #48 As good as all the other rapcrap on tv.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 03 30 at 03:25 AM • permalink


    1. Re Update : Hey, don’t I get any credit for my photoshop work? And for pinching the photo from Leftwrites. And the ban the bomb logo sans penis? (See comment #31)

      (story of my life, beaver away in my corner while every other bastard takes the credit… )-:))

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 03 30 at 03:43 AM • permalink


    1. When websites collide.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 03 30 at 03:58 AM • permalink


    1. Yatala? And you thought the fat prick was already in Terrorist Heaven?

      Posted by geoff on 2007 03 30 at 04:37 AM • permalink


    1. (Tune Fat Bottomed Girls)
      Oh Dont give him any dessert tonight
      Oh His jeans are way too tight
      Oh you let it all hang out
      Fat bottomed Dave
      You make Mt Everest look like a mound.

      He was just a skinny lad
      Always listened to his dad
      never caused nobody harm no sireee
      Left alone with big bad Sarmy
      an anti semite who was barmy
      Heap big mussie you made a bad boy out of he
      Hey hey!

      He’s been making plots and plans
      shot at soldiers in every land
      He’s been the bumboy of Mujahadeen
      Caught by Gomer Pyle
      Get used to those bars for quite a while
      Pity its Yatala and not Gitmo you’ll do time.

      Oh Dont give him any dessert tonight
      Oh His jeans are way too tight
      Oh you let it all hang out
      Fat bottomed Dave
      You make Mt Everest look like a mound.

      Posted by Nic on 2007 03 30 at 04:44 AM • permalink


    1. Re update II: ffs, this little girl doesn’t know she’s alive.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 03 30 at 04:52 AM • permalink


    1. Not bloody long enough.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 04:59 AM • permalink


    1. #24, #29:

      I am not sure of the timing but if Australia was officially allied with the US in regards to the Afghanistan battle, then it could well be that he fits the legal definition of having taken up arms against his own country during a time of war. That is the most strict definition of treason in most western codes, iirc.

      And, it does not matter if the Talib was an “official military” when the issue of treason or other such criminal issues are being discussed.
      The only thing the Talib murderer gangs not being official uniformed national military has any real bearing on is whether or not members of such an outfit would qualify as protected persons or qualify for POW status under the GC.
      Since the Talib was simply a loose knit gang of murdering thugs and not an actual national uniformed military, no member of the Talib qualifies for any protections once caught.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 03 30 at 04:59 AM • permalink


    1. Re: Update II Shannon. Evidently she’s thankful to David Hicks for opening her eyes to appreciating her freedom. A product of the lovely liberal education system both the US and Oz enjoy these days. Be thankful to those who would destroy you and your way of life for the freedoms we all enjoy.  Protest and spit on those who actually protect those freedoms.  I don’t know about you, but I won’t be passing the torch to today’s youth until they pry it from my cold dead hands.

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 03 30 at 05:02 AM • permalink


    1. Nic (#19), I agree – three years is about right, but if they made me share with Marilyn Shithead, I’d ask to stay at Gitmo!

      Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 2007 03 30 at 05:04 AM • permalink


    1. #56
      Tks Grimmy
      Heard ‘informed’ commentary long ago that fighting for the Taliban compounded Hicks’ problems re POW status.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 05:07 AM • permalink


    1. Shannon, Shannon, Shannon…

      And up until the light dawned on me this year

      You won’t be seeing the light until the clue-bat hits your noggin.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 05:08 AM • permalink


    1. #50
      Love your work 🙂

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 05:13 AM • permalink


    1. #44

      Imagine if he had been in front of Pat O`shane?

      We’d all be sentenced to five years, to make up for the five he’s already served.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 05:19 AM • permalink


    1. Shannon: The result of a ‘progressive education’. So self righteous, full of ‘huggly cuddly’ self loathing in the lefty style. If she plans a future in literature, her stance and style have already swamped some sections of the media. Although, with some of the personalities ‘graduating’ and moving on to the Labor Party, she could find an opening there. Fairfax also needs sanctimonious self righteous scribes to peddle this type of heart string drivel. Talk about the SOSE generation, I am afraid it is finally starting to come to fruitation and to think they will be able to vote one day.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 05:20 AM • permalink


    1. #57. Texas Bob. Would not have put it better myself. Pretty bloody disappointing when you think about it.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 05:25 AM • permalink


    1. I would like to think minimum of 20 years. It is not just what he has doneor not done, it is what he intended to do had he not been caught.
      It was his intent to return here and contract others to his evil ideology. What would we have to say if he was freed early and then brought down an apartment building or tunnel?
      David- Dawood can NEVER be assimilated back into our society and will have no concerns about killing others if it means he can go down or up in firestorm of martyrdom.
      He will want to avenge us more for his imprisonment. Who will employ him?trust him or feel comfortable in his presence. He is a pariah and should get life.
      God help us all and the father that spawned him.

      Posted by Hillyminx on 2007 03 30 at 05:27 AM • permalink


    1. Re Update II:
      Hicks’ response:
      Show us your tits … nah, too small …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 05:27 AM • permalink


    1. #57: Well said, Texas Bob.
      Thank God that there are still a few young folk like yourself.
      You give hope to those of us whose hands will soon be losing their grip on the torch.

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 03 30 at 05:28 AM • permalink


    1. Looks like they’re asking for 20 years

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 03 30 at 05:32 AM • permalink


    1. #68
      Tks for the link:

      The prosecution will seek a sentence of “substantially less” than 20 years for Australian David Hicks …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 05:39 AM • permalink


    1. From TI’s link:

      Hicks, whose extended imprisonment has provoked a popular outcry in Australia…

      Not all that popular it would seem from the polls I’ve seen. They seem to be consistently about 75% against our tubby hero.

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 03 30 at 05:43 AM • permalink


    1. Their ABC today was still talking about plea bargaining by the Talitubby. But Colonel Mo Davis was quite definite that there had been no plea bargaining in the lead-up to his guilty plea.
      Who do we believe — the prosecuting officer or the ABC?

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 03 30 at 05:53 AM • permalink


    1. Shannon – going through an emo phase or the product of education that produces self-confidence with no substance?

      A little from column A and column B, I think.

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 03 30 at 05:59 AM • permalink


    1. I hope he gets the chair and they fire it up on max amps during “earth hour”.

      Posted by Penguin on 2007 03 30 at 06:14 AM • permalink


    1. The whole reason he was never returned here to face charges was that there were no charges to face, unlike the British detainees. The laws now in place to deal with Hicks are, of coure, not retrospective (thanks to the Greens and the Democrats – the ones who have screamed louded over his detention in Gitmo while being responsible for screwing up the legislation to get him here for trial). For the Government to charge him with anything will look like persecution. However, without taking a guess at the sentence I’m sure that the extradition parameters will be sufficient to keep Hicks locked up for whatever remains of his sentence no matter who’s in government. No Christmas pudding on the outside for Dawood – not that the fat bastard needs it.

      Posted by Justin on 2007 03 30 at 06:26 AM • permalink


    1. Don’t you see? They were softening him up for better eatin’ before they fed him to Cheney and Rove.

      Posted by aaron_ on 2007 03 30 at 06:26 AM • permalink


    1. #76 Well that was slaphead Koch’s take anyhow.

      Posted by murph on 2007 03 30 at 06:30 AM • permalink


    1. Four Corners should be interesting next week.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 06:32 AM • permalink


    1. This week on One Opinion Difference of Opinion we look at western society and how muslims can integrate. Will it work in our modern, secular society.

      I don’t recall any other regligious group having special programmes dedicated to them in this fashion. Nor special “government representatives”.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 06:53 AM • permalink


    1. The US on being offered Hicks to keep:

      “No thanks, couldn’t possibly, we’re full.”

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 06:56 AM • permalink


    1. They should send him to India.  That’ll sort the fat shit out.

      Posted by murph on 2007 03 30 at 07:11 AM • permalink


    1. hey that Shannon is a hotty ; from Geeeeelong, but she needs to lighten up a bit..

      Posted by arnienelly on 2007 03 30 at 07:16 AM • permalink


    1. I’m going for 7 years including time spent, which means out in 2. By then the Indians will have made up their mind about whether to prosecute for attempted murder.

      As for Shannon, she shouldn’t blame her high school for her weight gain. She should have watched her diet and exercised regularly. Besides, she has grown up a lot since she year 7, so some of the weight gain and filling out is entirely natural. Now what other similarities were there with Hicks at Guantanamo Bay?

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 03 30 at 07:31 AM • permalink


    1. #77
      We can be reassured that <strike>Nanny’s</strike> Aunty’s investigative reporting will be fair and balanced …

      Surely, they’ll expose Hicks’ email about selling his story when on the outside and his request for chicks with big tits …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 07:32 AM • permalink


    1. Nine years, less time served, to four.

      Posted by 2dogs on 2007 03 30 at 07:36 AM • permalink


    1. #78 Kae. Its Jeff McMullen ABC. Former Channel Nine 60 minutes. George Negus SBS. Former Channel Nine 60 minutes. Got the connection here. All too old and living in the past, or failed commercially, so the ABC serve us these failed ideologues for their propaganda. At least we are not swamped ad nauseum with advertising. Shit they are even advertising the ‘lights off’ in Sydney on Foxtel, so even if you pay for this service, they still pervade upon your psychic anyway.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 07:39 AM • permalink


    1. #78
      Next Week: Islam in Australia – A Collision Course?
      What’s causing the fear and friction between muslims and non-muslims in Australia?

      Brainwashing programmes such as this.
      Can Islam work in our secular society or will there always be conflict?
      No and yes.
      And what attitudes need to change to smooth the path ahead?
      Heard the one about the frog and the scorpion?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 07:42 AM • permalink


    1. #78


      You know, I looked at that and thought “something not right with that”, then “No, it’s OK”

      Been a bad week.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 07:48 AM • permalink


    1. Counterpoint this week:

      Neil James: … A number of Al-Qaeda training manuals at different levels of Al-Qaeda training…in fact, at every level…basically said the first thing you do if you’re lifted or arrested or detained by a western democratic government is scream ‘torture’ at the top of your voice for the simple reason that there’ll always be people in western societies who will believe the worst of their own governments. Even if you’ve never been tortured you’ll automatically elicit some sympathy from the more gullible, and it’s also a handy protection in legal cases, just like many criminals when they’re captured say they’ve been verballed by the police when they later confess. It’s a classic accepted method by terrorists to scream that they’ve been tortured, even if they haven’t. Anyone who looks at this with any element of critical judgement, you have to say that yes some of them may have been tortured but it’s pretty unlikely that all of them have been tortured all the time in the custody of western democracies.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 07:51 AM • permalink


    1. At least little Shannon is only 17 years old. When she’s 40 and still spouting this nonsense, then we can consider her a typical moonbat and/or tenured university professor.

      Posted by CrankyNeocon on 2007 03 30 at 07:54 AM • permalink


    1. Shannon (the update) has supposedly just finished year 12 and the HSC. How, then, has she a command of language and grammar approximating mine at age 51? I didn’t know they still taught that stuff to children. Or is “Shannon” really a hairy old hippy in disguise?

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 08:06 AM • permalink


    1. 17 y.o. with own blog ‘queen_shaz’ opining on Hicks: no shrinking violet there …
      If she was a 20-stone fugly, she’d be gettin’ shit heaped on her …

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 03 30 at 08:11 AM • permalink


    1. #73. Hmmm. Earf Hour. I’ll make sure I’ve got the telly, the pc, the microwave, the stereo, the clockradio and all the lights on.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 03 30 at 08:18 AM • permalink


    1. #89 CrankyNeon. Its such a shame that the indoctrination under the guise of ‘education’ could result in this outcome. Maybe when Shannon is a way from the ‘collective’, she will eventually be able to develop an independent thinking pattern for herself.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 08:25 AM • permalink


    1. I have just been discussing this blog with a friend who tells me Shannon is a good sort.
      Well, you lot of sexists (yeah, I saw the reference to Bingle earlier today…) where is the eye-candy for the girls? Huh?

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 08:27 AM • permalink


    1. Five more years if we’re lucky, but I wouldn’t even bet on that much. If any servicemen on active duty are reading this, if you encounter any jihadis please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not take prisoners. If we have learned nothing else from the cases of Mo Dawood and Mamdouh Habib, I hope at least we have learned that justice for jihadis can only be assured from the barrel of a American/Australian serviceman’s gun. It is absolutely useless trying to achieve justice and defend western civilisation via its corrupt, greedy, psychopathic and parasitic legal profession. God knows the Aussie diggers didn’t beat the Japanese on the Kokoda trail in WWII by taking prisoners. Mo & Mamdouh and their vermin lawyers show us that the diggers were not just brave, but incredibly wise as well.

      Posted by Jim Geones on 2007 03 30 at 08:34 AM • permalink


    1. Here y’are, girls.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 08:35 AM • permalink


    1. OMYGOD, kae, that’s my husband. He’s not as bad as you’re making out.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 08:47 AM • permalink


    1. #97
      Well, if he’s your husband he’s not doable then.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 08:51 AM • permalink


    1. #94 Kae. All things being equal, hang in there. Surely there is some ‘eye candy’ from the ‘SOSE and progressive school’ of education who also have the same powers of reasoning. As I have found out, ‘dumb arses’ are not only applicable to blond females.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 08:52 AM • permalink


    1. #99

      I suppose it depends on whether you want to have an intelligent, sensible conversation with them or.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 08:55 AM • permalink


    1. He walks: he’ll get five years, minus time served.

      When he gets out, he’ll have a brief world tour, speaking to fawning crowds in Oz and the US.

      Ninety days later, the leftards having put him to good use, they’ll spit him out like a watermelon seed. He’ll try to find a job, but he has no skills and frankly is not very bright. Given the choice of joining Cindy Sheehan on the Forgotten Leftard circuit, or going back to al Qaeda, he’ll choose the latter.

      By this time next year, he’ll have been killed in Iraq – or, if Congress forces a withdrawal, he’ll be one of the triumphant forces of insane Islamism that’ll be riding high in Baghdad. There, he’ll take up his new career as rapist and murderer.

      And the Left will rejoice at his triumph over the forces of repression.

      Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2007 03 30 at 09:03 AM • permalink



    1. #100 Kae. Impossible to combine the two at one time. Both invite pleasures, but like a fork in the road, if you must choose one and wait for the other, choose wisely.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 09:07 AM • permalink


    1. ot
      hope this important story will not vanish.
      Jacques Verges is the scum who defended Klaus Barbie financed by Francois Genoud, the swiss banker to the nazis, who recenty commited suicide and a major funder of Arab terrorism in Europe over the last thirty years.
      Arab prince in ‘cocaine run’

      Posted by davo on 2007 03 30 at 09:16 AM • permalink


    1. G’day shags!

      Hmm, I’m too old for forking on the road.

      (PS, I think mareeS is guilding the lily, too, she’s got the actor’s stunt double!)

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 09:18 AM • permalink


    1. kae

      Hmm, I’m too old for forking on the road.

      Spontaneity, my dear. Well, just make sure the smiles, various limbs or body parts, can’t be readily seen…well the sounds, too…I mean, you know?

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 03 30 at 09:35 AM • permalink


    1. Well, Shannon is only 17. I see no profit or honor in picking on children; she’ll grow and mature.

      And if she doesn’t then we can laugh at her.

      Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 03 30 at 09:36 AM • permalink


    1. It’s 7 years. breaking news on 10.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 09:38 AM • permalink


    1. Ch 10 news just announced: 7 years, but uncertain as to whether Dave’s prior period counts.

      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 03 30 at 09:39 AM • permalink


    1. Hicks has been sentences to 7 years, but it’s not clarified about time already served.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 09:40 AM • permalink


    1. #105 Kae. Age is of no consequence, what I was just quoting, I believe, was an old Japanese proverb (if I am wrong, I stand corrected) what I was not quoting, was the continuous, ‘fork in the road’ blather issued by Rudd’s, lazy hack speechwriters.
      “Shags” is a term I have not read in many years. Now the term ‘eye candy’ is a terminology I find interesting.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 09:40 AM • permalink



      Damn! Here I thought I read HickeysLotsto.

      Oh well.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 03 30 at 09:42 AM • permalink


    1. Sorry, BJM, Shags is a nic I gave to someone else who posts here – it’s up to him to fess up who he is…

      and I AM to old to be forking in the road.

      And yes, from the ladder of opportunity to the fork in the road – it’s a crock.

      Posted by kae on 2007 03 30 at 09:46 AM • permalink


    1. Aha, here’s something we didn’t think of and it’s been cleverly tagged by young Victoria of Central Coast NSW in the Australian –
      “I find it interesting that no one has yet commented on the fact that, with their incredible control over the prisoners on the Guantanamo gulag and their diets, that it would have been entirely probable that they decided to fatten the sacrificial lamb before they brought him to market. If they increased the number of calories available to David Hicks and he had nothing better to do than sit around his cell and read and eat, combined with the lack of exercise afforded him, then of course he would have put on weight recently, thus giving the lie, conveniently, to all those who had been saying how drawn and thin he looked. As for the healthy tanned complexion, how are we to know that it wasn’t spray on tan?”

      The pate de foie gras summertone explanation. It’s so obvious yet I didn’t think of it

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 03 30 at 09:57 AM • permalink


    1. O/T

      A green Sydney Morning Herald today – full of green stuff like the Metro section “How Green is My Rock Star”

      And leafing through yesterday’s glossy Sydney Magazine – with Pete Garrett on the front cover I find a page dedicated to the Catmeat Sheikh who is lovingly interviewed by Jack Marx with the faithful Keysar Trad translating

      Example of this sh*t

      “When he first came to Australia in 1982” translates Trad “he knew so little about Australia he thought it was just one or two hours from the Middle East. The trip took so long he wondered if he were travelling to another planet. And when he looked down from the plane and saw all the red slanting roofs, he thought they were the tops of tribal tents” Hilaly frowns and shakes his head “What sort of backward country was this?”

      Well he loved this backward country he stayed and stayed and stayed – stuff that pesky visa

      The balanced SMH in action

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 03 30 at 10:08 AM • permalink


    1. Im slowly coming to realise that lefty stupidity is a well that just wont run dry. Ive often thought lately “thats it the nirvana of fuckwittery has finaly been reached” when lo and behold over the hill lumbers something even more moraly bankrupt and stupid.
      We should have a comp to see who can find the stupidest letter to a paper or blog regaurding Hicks.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 30 at 10:09 AM • permalink


    1. Hmmm.

      1. David Hicks?  I’d hang him and then throw the body to the sharks.
      2. What is it with these idiot liberals?

      Honestly I think I’d like to force some of them to actually live in a country where they’d actually have to face up with reality.

      Posted by memomachine on 2007 03 30 at 10:13 AM • permalink


    1. #113 Not a problem. Seven years for that little fat rat. Well, those evil Americans. Their torture and torment knows no bounds.
      I still say, that the intel he would have provided, without being present in the discussions, to a 5.56 ‘slotting’ while he stood guard armed with a AK47 near an old Russian T52 tank. Dawood, is a pathetic anti-semitic wannabe. It just shows how desperate the Jihadists are for recruits, when they attract that sort of element to their ranks. I hope, that this little fascist, really does become the ‘partner’ of a crack dealer called “Bubba”.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 10:13 AM • permalink


    1. #105, kae, yes I was having a lend. The spouse is a bit greyer and grizzlier than Ray Stephenson.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 10:16 AM • permalink


    1. 20 years, with the 5 already served off. : 15

      I’m giving two-to-one odds.

      Posted by mojo on 2007 03 30 at 10:16 AM • permalink


    1. Heres my selection for “scribbling on the asylum walls with poo” letter of the day. Pulled fresh and staeming from the letters pages of the Australian.
      Its got it all, Jew hatred, Winston Chrchill as a facist, bulldozed babies, then a critcism of Howard for not being a frothing anti-semite.
      And rather touchingly an appeal for justice.
      Asianplumb/[Lindsay Wilson] of Melbourne (30 March at 01:20 AM)
      Women are bombed and bulldozed to death in their beds daily by Israel with American and Australian support every day of the week in Palestine and the western world looks the other way or pretends that these atrocities don’t happen. Winston Churchil and Mel Gibson knew and know who is at fault here why doesn’t John Howard? We cannot judge Hicks on hearsay evidence because as a nation we have no idea of real or fair justice going by our past and present record! Selective justice is not justice, it’s a crime in itself!

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 03 30 at 10:23 AM • permalink


    1. Fuck a duck!!  The shitbag is gonna serve 2 on top of remand….


      Was this seriously worth it!!!  For fucks sakes!

      Posted by murph on 2007 03 30 at 10:29 AM • permalink


    1. #115 aussiemagpie. Did they mention that Paul ‘the recession we had to have’ Keating did a number on his then immigration minister, Chris Hurford so as to garnish ethnic votes and preferences for the ALP. So he overrode Hurford’s recommendations on this crap heap cult monster and allowed him to remain in the country. SMH, we have a recruit for you. Contact Shannon.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 10:38 AM • permalink


    1. #123 BJM

      Not a word – this was a cosy little get together at a Lebanese restaurant to let us know all about the sheikh’s warm and cuddly side

      This is Marx describing Hilaly and Trad “At times, the earnest affability and playfulness of the duo make them appear almost as a camp comedy act, the diminutive Trad as loyal Boy Wonder to the mufti’s wise and distinguished but occasionally frustrated Batman”

      And so it goes on – just two wonderfully ordinary Aussies! Ready to be loved by the masses

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 03 30 at 10:51 AM • permalink


    1. And my favourite comment today from Bolta’s blog – the Hicksy thread

      Posted by Marilyn on Fri 30 Mar 07 at 03:20pm

      Marilyn, I’ve explained why you are not welcome here.

      Andrew Bolt
      Fri 30 Mar 07 (05:23pm)

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 03 30 at 10:53 AM • permalink


    1. From Shannon:

      How lucky I am to have been raised to think for myself and make my own decisions about my social, political and religious inclinations. [Emphasis mine.]


      She thinks for herself and then makes her own decisions about her inclinations.  It is unfortunate that she wasn’t raised to understand that actual thought consists of much more beyond her inclinations, and that the decisions she’s so inclined to make are unreliable.

      She has reason to “enter the wide world” with trepidation because she “can no longer be certain that my basic rights as a human being will be defended by the ‘civilization’ that I live in.”  The very thing that made her inclined to put cynical quote marks around “civilization” is the thing that puts that civilization, and her in it, in a great deal of danger indeed.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 03 30 at 10:56 AM • permalink


    1. #123, shannon may actually be a male school teacher posting here under false pretences. His language says so.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 11:09 AM • permalink


    1. #124 aussiemagpie. Truly amazing. Really, is it any wonder Australia produces not only JAFA’s (overseas terminology), but the likes of Mohammad Dawood, with puff pieces like that in the MSM. What was Marx doing, having a Chardonnay and a mass debate with the Sheik, with Trad ‘the boy wonder’ copping the overspill. It just makes me want to go and give a big hug to my daughter’s teddy bear, with a burqa draped over it of course. I thank the big fellow up top, that I don’t have shares in Fairfax.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 11:10 AM • permalink


    1. Sky News (UK) just announced he has also withdrawn all allegations of abuse while in cutody, too.

      Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 03 30 at 11:12 AM • permalink


    1. #127, mareeS,

      If this is true, his being a teacher just makes it worse.  Instead of a young girl who has time to rid herself of these obscenities and learn to survive, we have someone who teaches all the Shannons (and David Hicks) to “think” this way.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 03 30 at 11:19 AM • permalink


    1. DK

      It’ll be interesting to see if the US can enforce that.

      Posted by murph on 2007 03 30 at 11:19 AM • permalink


    1. #128 BJM

      Yes Marx was sharing a lovely meal in Greenacre with Boy Wonder and Batman – no chardy though!

      I don’t read all the SMH each day and it’s glossy mags but I just wanted to find if ther was any balance and when I got to the back page of the Sydney Magazine I found this so then I knew there was no more room for anything remotely anti all the drivel

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 03 30 at 11:22 AM • permalink


    1. TWO YEARS!  Damn.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 03 30 at 11:25 AM • permalink


    1. #127 mareeS. Quite possible. Being a believer in my convictions, I feel I do not need to use subterfuge to ingrate myself to people on a blog site. If so, not surprised, a few teachers of late have been featured lately in the media ‘connecting’ with their young nubile charges and doing more than misrepresenting themselves on a blog site to push their own political agenda.

      Posted by BJM on 2007 03 30 at 11:25 AM • permalink


    1. #134, say that in three words, not 300.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 03 30 at 11:45 AM • permalink


    1. Re. the “And put him on a diet” sign: hilarious, even down to the tiniest detail of adding a Mercedes-Benz “peace” symbol to the sign. If you’re a commenter, here, Anon Poster Maker, my hat’s off to you. Well done.

      P.S. Did any of the wankers there even notice what your sign read and meant?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 03 30 at 12:17 PM • permalink


    1. #127 I just pasted Shannon’s little screed into the Gender Genie and it calculated the following scores:

      Female: 511
      Male: 526

      So that program is slightly in favour of the author being a man.

      Posted by Burbank on 2007 03 30 at 12:26 PM • permalink


    1. The judge revealed that the plea bargain included a provision that he would get no credit for the five years he has already served in Guantanamo Bay and that had agreed not to sue the US for any illegal treatment he had received.


      Posted by CO² max on 2007 03 30 at 12:39 PM • permalink


    1. #107, Mr. Bingley, she may be only 17, but that is precisely the time to ridicule her pretentions to any kind of wisdom.  When she’s 71 and still spouting that self-important crap, it will be because nobody showed her the way when she was 17.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 03 30 at 03:56 PM • permalink


    1. #121 thefrolickingmole
      You must quit reading that slop. It’s brain-damaging. I sort of appreciate your reading it so we don’t have to, but you hit so far below bottom, there. . . .

      Posted by m on 2007 03 30 at 05:56 PM • permalink


    1. The Mole
      do you think Sir Winston would have been honored to be compared to Mel Gibson?
      -Definitely Number one on the emergency toilet paper list.

      Truly amazing. a letter from an antisemite attacking Howard for not being an antisemite.
      and attempting to Paint Churchill as an antisemite in the same league as Mel Gibson. Printed in the Australian to boot. Must have got past by the moderators, since there is no mention of the word “JEW”.

      Posted by davo on 2007 03 30 at 06:55 PM • permalink


    1. The left in Australia wants the voting age lowered to 16. The left in Australia wants the age of consent for homosexual sex lowered to 16. If Shannon, 17, wants to sprout left-wing propaganda, she is fair game for ridicule. You can’t be an adult and a child.

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 03 30 at 08:45 PM • permalink


    1. #142, Contrail,

      Just because the social engineers consider the child abuse they propose to be right, the reality is that a 17 year old doesn’t have the knowledge or experience to make the judgments they would foist upon her.  To that you must add the fact that they have worked diligently throughout her life to maim the only faculty that would give her a chance—her rational faculty.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 03 31 at 01:53 AM • permalink


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