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Last updated on July 23rd, 2017 at 09:46 am
Occasional commenter Bryan Law requests that he be allowed to address various issues. The following is published unedited:
The Real Jeff S – “I wonder what our loving friends, Bryla and DJFQ, think of this union of ‘philosophies’. I have to wonder how much they enjoy rubbing elbows (even electronically) with nazis and racists.” #23 from “Friends” thread of 28 August.
I’ve never met a real Nazi Jeff, but I know that I’m not responsible for what they say or do on the internet, or in relation to any issue/campaign that I happen to be involved with. Unlike you, it seems, I trust people of all persuasions to be intelligent enough to figure out for themselves what’s going on, and to make their own judgements about what others say.
In relation to Camp Casey, I’m sure there’s quite a variety of views being expressed. Some I’ve read have been very unfortunate in the way they portray Israel, Zionism, and Judaism. Some of Cindy Sheehan’s comments are inflammatory and inaccurate. I do not condone those comments and,
were I present, I’d seek appropriate ways of challenging them.However this is a side-bar issue. The key impact of Camp Casey remains its critique of the US failure in Iraq.
As for racists, well, they’re all around the place. One need only read the “Progress Measured” thread of 21 August on this blog to see virulent examples of anti-Aboriginal racism from the likes of Mr Magoo, ekw, Quentin George, and a whole bunch of others. Were I able to participate in the discussion I’d challenge those too.
Sortelli – “Remember, Bryla ACTUALLY DEFENDED the Holocaust deniers at the Adelaide Institute in his last romp through here. I wish that had surprised me”. #24 from “Friends” thread of 28 August.
This is the kind of material that is easy to expose by re-posting what I actually said, from “Axis of David” thread of 19 August, which was:
“ilibcc, It’s completely awful that the Adelaide Institute is under the control of Nazis.
If you forward me the information you have about their Nazi membership I’ll start lobbying to stop their insidious influence.
Er, you do have some factual material to base your assertions on don’t you, or is this just another WMD line of spin?”
I was banned immediately afterwards, and the only “evidence” presented was comments made by people posting to the discussion pages of the Institute’s blog. To say that means the Adelaide institute is controlled by Nazis would be similar to inferring from the comments here that Tim Blair is a bleeding heart leftie because I can find a few examples of such thinking on his blog.
Jeff S and Sortelli, IMHO you are cowards hiding behind bluster and deception. You’re very good at insulting people who can’t answer back. My guess is that you also kick cripples and steal from blind men’s cups.
- Spot on, richard. Once again Bryla deflects the answer by denying responsibility, and changes the subject.
It’s also interesting to note that Bryla had plenty of opprotunity to engage in an open conversation with his latest foray into the VRWC. Instead, he followed the leftie pattern of assuming that he was right, and he was not willing to listen…..again, and simply banged out his usual (moronic) diatribe. That’s what got him banned, although he’ll never admit it.
Oh, and Bryla? This is a friggin’ web page. If your feelings get hurt by reading the printed opinion of someone on the other side of the planet, you really need to grow a thicker skin. I bet you burst into tears when someone tells you your hair needs combing.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 01:08 AM • permalink
- With apologies to that comic genius Tom Lehrer:
“Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Moslems
And everybody hates the JewsBut during National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
It’s National Everyone-Smile-At-
One-Another-hood Week
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you
It’s only for a week, so have no fear
Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!”
- Kaboom… I always admired the movie Independence Day for its belief that the black guys and the white guys and the Jewish guys could work together in harmony and brotherhood to kick the crap out of the green guys…Posted by richard mcenroe on 08/30 at 01:16 AM • permalink
- Poor Bwyan! Did the bad lady stop your allowance again?? Never mind diddums.Posted by Deo Vindice on 08/30 at 01:17 AM • permalink
- Tim, can we keep him?
I’m sure that he will be fed and watered properly. Perhaps Andrea could have a side-bar, or even a bryla guest-spot, where he can make a statement, and we can thoroughly fisk him.
Hey, that’s a thought! No right of reply, he can just sit there steaming under a pile of humiliation. Bring it on!
- And before I forget….Sortelli, the next couple of months are going to be lean (Bryla squealed, the rat!). Those blind guys are on to us. We need to consider some new tactics, or maybe branch out….what do you think about extorting protection money for not kicking cripples? Just a thought, but I’d appreciate your input—you are one cruel dude!Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 01:21 AM • permalink
- You seem to have touched a nerve, The_Real_JeffS (in this case, not difficult). Do ALL pretentious Leftists have such thin skins, or just the ones I find trolling right-leaning websites?Posted by Spiny Norman on 08/30 at 01:23 AM • permalink
- cuckoo — Bryla walks alone because no one else in the tribe can fit between the trees beside him…Posted by richard mcenroe on 08/30 at 01:44 AM • permalink
- Spiny, I suspect that Bryla is a very sensitive person. You know, one of those types who breaks down into screaming hysterics when his eggs are cooked wrong.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 01:48 AM • permalink
- Bryla pretty well damned himself by his own words there. I mean, seriously, what the fuck? I accuse him of defending the Adelaide Institute, and he posts his quote defending the Adelaide Institute. WAY TO GO, CHUCKLES! No one would want to unfairly smear a Holocaust denier, after all. I’m glad you’re there to draw the line between them and Nazis, you brave teller of things.
It pleases me to know that he’s bothered by me so much, I must admit, because I don’t think very much of him.JeffS—Man, the gig is up, forget the blind men and cripples for awhile. I think we should go back to taking candy from babies. I mean, what kind of socalist would have a problem with THAT, right? I expect no complaints from Bryla and his friends!
- All I have to say is that the twit isn’t worthy of a comment. So disregard. Thanks.Posted by nofixedabode on 08/30 at 02:04 AM • permalink
- Candy from babies, right! Gotta work on that one.
Or we could rob the dead. After all, Cindy Sheehan and her supporters (including the neo-nazis and ex-KKK members) sure don’t mind disrepecting the dead. Surely Bryla and his ideological comrades wouldn’t mind us sharing the material wealth as well.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 02:14 AM • permalink
- Dear Bryan,
I always find it amazing that those on the left make assumptions as fact and then demand answers based on those assumptions, like this the US failure in Iraq.Where is the proof that the US has failed in Iraq?
— Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 08/30 at 02:33 AM • permalink
Aah, guilt by association is it? An oldie but a goodie.
Funny that you should say “…oldie but goodie”, Dido. I recall idiots on the left harping about the urban legend that the Bush family supported Nazi Germany, because there was this association with Nazi Germany.
Pot, meet kettle.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 02:44 AM • permalink
- Yeah, I’m sure Bryla is FAR too busy lobbying against* websites that are blocked from my workplace for hateful content (like the Adelaide Institute) to waste time with us.
*Oops, I mean, apologizing for them.
Funny how that works out, isn’t it? It’s not that Bryla’s actually upset that we don’t like them. He’s worried that we don’t like them too much.
It’s one thing to be a snotty ass little shit in the course of disagreeing with us. To be such a little shit while standing up for Holocaust deniers and then having the gall to claim we’re unfairly associating he and they is beyond chutzpah.
- Now I had a look at the thread that Bryla was so indignant about which in his view was a parade of racists against aboriginals.
I have always thought that a racist was someone who regarded someone as inherently inferior because of the colour of his skin.
No one in that thread made any such claim. Mr Magoo was critical of the “Noble Savage” and the concept of cultural equivalence. Is such a debate now taboo because it is somehow “racist”.
Quentin George questioned land management practices and fauna extinctions. How is that “racist” or is it now taboo to question any practice carried out by aboriginal people?
Mr Magoo also made reference to the relative cultural achievements of Western culture and aboriginal culture. Is that what Bryla regards as “racist”?
Nowhere in that thread could I see anything that could be remotely characterised as “racist”.
Cultures are adopted by choice whether explicit or implicit. They are not determined by the colour of one’s skin. They can be accepted or rejected.
Bryla needs to understand the difference between culture and race.
- For those interested, here’s my “racist” comment that Bryla is referring to:
You gotta love that peculiar twist on the “noble savage” myth.
How exactly does burning large swathes of land and hunting megafauna to extinction fit in with that?Hmmm…criticism of Aboriginal land-management……YOU RASHIST SHCUM!!! !!!!!!
Posted by Quentin George on 08/30 at 03:14 AM • permalink
- I haven’t kicked any cripples today.Posted by zeppenwolf on 08/30 at 03:18 AM • permalink
- If it at all possible, I’d like to see him unbanned, if only to see him defend his ridiculous “racist” charge based on those two lines.Posted by Quentin George on 08/30 at 03:20 AM • permalink
- What is seriously fascinating about Bryla is his close adherence to leftist norms. EP and I have been looking at this for a while (independently, which is interesting), and we are starting to reach a few tentative conclusions about the ways lefties operate. Not being dickheads psychologists, we are looking at real behaviours they exhibit.
A very crude description is that they spout rivers of bullshit (see Harry Franfurter ‘On Bullshit’, available over at Amazon) and believe their own bullshit in preference to examining reality.
I think this is the critical difference between a lefty and a rational person. Rational people basically look at the bullshit quotient and differentiate between it and observed fact.
When we add the narcissistic self-centred nature of most lefties (behaviour very similar to a small child), and a sort of standing delusion where they see themselves as being an outnumbered, heroic minority bravely pushing forward the frontier of human moral advancement in the face of the forces of evil and depravity, you can start to get a window in to their world. In essence, everyone else in the world is merely a prop in their own personal play-acting. it really IS all about them, in their own eyes.
As I said, crude and tentative just now, but that is what their actions show. Not their words (remember the bullshit bit), but their actions.
Read Bryla, and you will see that this is exactly how he behaves.
MarkL
Canberra
- Well, zeppenwolf, you are behind your quota. Get cracking!!! Wouldn’t want to disappoint Bryla, now, would you?Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 03:34 AM • permalink
- At this point I must admit, all my heroes kick cripples.Posted by Aging Gamer on 08/30 at 03:35 AM • permalink
- MarkL, my study of lefties was cursory, but I came to a similar (but less detailed) conclusion: lefties live in and for their own little world. Their perception is all important to them, and they will go to great lengths to protect that. Nicely put, for being so crude and tentative!
I’m no shrink either (although that may be a qualification, not dis-qualification), but this reminds me of the behavior of bi-polar people.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 03:40 AM • permalink
- MarkL not only do they spout rivers of bullshit they link those rivers (google google google link link link) with all sorts of other bits of bullshit (which then makes them facts and they become bearers of truth) then demand that you support your opinion (against the truth) by arguing against afore said piles of linked bullshit and if you dont they call you a liar!
Bullshit!
- #18 <a href=”Or we could rob the dead. “>Or we could rob the dead. </a>
Too late, some animal rights activists have beaten you to it.
Posted by Evil Pundit on 08/30 at 04:47 AM • permalink
- D’oh!Posted by Evil Pundit on 08/30 at 04:47 AM • permalink
- Here’s ‘Man of the people’ Bryan Law commenting on an old Tim Blair post.
“My only knowledge of the rich comes from my wife’s family who’ve been “owning class” for three generations now. Owning class is having enough property and investments to live comfortably without working. The capital grows and we live on the interest.I live in a house my wife owns, drive a car she pays for, and put out my hand when I need money for leisure or projects. We live among the trogs and try to build healthy community.
BTW, we’re still able to collect middle class welfare. Family tax benefit allows us to have a house and up to $200,000 in cash before becoming ineligible. We’re OK until M’s next inheritance”
Nice huh? Well Bwyan, this ‘Trog’ would like to shove your ‘middle class welfare’ up your fat ‘owning class’ arse!
Posted by Deo Vindice on 08/30 at 05:24 AM • permalink
- Unban bryla? Nah. It’s more fun when his little sycophants register, with a Hotmail account obviously set up just for that purpose, and leave one graffitti-like comment then run away. Ho hum, another one banned.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 08/30 at 08:25 AM • permalink
- Bryla obviously confuses an honest attempt to discriminate between observable cultural and civilizational differences with outright racism. A common error – or moral failure – of the left. I think many lefties fall into this trap because, at bottom, they don’t really believe in anything, so how could one mode of existence, in what they would call an “objective” sense, be superior to another? This is one reason why so many on the left have trouble condemning even the most archaic and reprehensible cultural aspects of Islam (the religious triumphalism, the suppression of women, etc.).
Incidentally, do I get extra points for kicking blind cripples?
- The Real JeffS — Stealing candy from babies is perfectly acceptable as long as you chant “I’m doing it for the children” while you do it…
Amortiser — In dissing the concept of the “noble savage” you are dissing Rousseau. Therefore Australians and Americans are dissing a Frenchman, and that’s obviously racist. Fun and appropriate, but racist.
What, you didn’t think Bryla gave a damn about the aborigines, did you?
Diddums — When Bryla spouts the same line as Nazis, that’s not guilt by association.
It’s association, period.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 08/30 at 10:01 AM • permalink
- Gee, if Bryla’s got the time to post, his men’s group must be in hiatus.
That group would be named YES MA’AM, right?Incidentally, please don’t unban the creep. Any hope that he’ll actually respond to the questions posed to him here (in particular on his ridiculous “anti-Aborigical racism” charge) is completely misplaced, in my opinion. He’ll just set a new world record in goalpost-moving if he’s allowed to post again.
- Unlike Bryla, I have met a Nazi, close up. Having lived in Louisiana for 30 years, I have had the unpleasant experience of encountering David Duke, a strong supporter of Mother Sheenan, on a number of occasions. Unlike Bryla, I have felt it my responsibility to speak out strongly against this psycho (who, by the way, went to jail-recently released- for stealing money from his supporters.) The fact that Mother Sheenan shares his views on America, Jews, and terrorists tells everyone, except the likes of Bryla, what motivates her to exploit her sons death for her own aggrandizement, as well as the level of arguments the Bryla’s use to falsely claim that the Iraq war is a failure. (By the standards of any war, it is a remarkable success.) A la Bryla, to change the subject, Sheenan is not the first mother who has basked in her childs death in order to seek attention. The jails are full of them.
The preferred term is “disabled”.
Actually, paco, I think they’re favoring “differently abled” nowadays.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 08/30 at 11:02 AM • permalink
- A reminder to self: refresh the page before posting.Posted by Spiny Norman on 08/30 at 11:03 AM • permalink
- “Diddums,” a.k.a. Andy Gray, is annoyed that I dissed his email address. To wit:
1. I am not a sycophant of Bryan Law, in fact I have no idea who he is.
2. This email address was not set up for the purpose of registering with Tim Blair’s site. I have had it for five years.
3. I did not ‘run away’, it’s just that I have a time-consuming job, wife and kids. I have been known to turn my computer off for hours at a time.
Enjoy the power, Andrea.
Well yeah, “andy210759@hotmail.com” is so obviously an address that someone has had for five years. How could I not tell! By the way, what sort of job “consumes time”? I thought they had done away with all those when they invented the Time-Rewinder and distributed them among the general populace. Guess Diddums didn’t get one.
Oops, forgot to add: anyway, correction made! Now everyone, remember: Diddums has had his Hotmail address for five years, he’s not just some fly-by-night Hotmail customer! Also, he has a time-consuming job, a wife, and kids. I’ll bet none of us has any of those things!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 08/30 at 11:25 AM • permalink
- Love your site Tim but your comment threads get creepier every time I visit them, which is less and less.Posted by lizardflix on 08/30 at 12:49 PM • permalink
- Does anyone else think Bryla spends a lot of time steaming about this site and its commenters because he doesn’t have anything else to do and nobody else will talk to him?
lizardflix, when somebody makes a comment like yours, it screams “smug assumption of superiority”. It will get you bitch-slapped around here. Just so you know.
JeffS and Sortelli: cripple-kicking (sorry, it’s just so much easier to say than “differently abled-kicking”), and baby-candy-stealing are okay, but I draw the line at stealing purses from old ladies. Besides, you never know what you might find in those.
- I wouldn’t rob from old ladies, Rebecca. They’ve been known to shoot to kill.
I think I like the Air America approach better. Then Al Franken and I can high five it on the street some day.
And about Bryla…..well, it’s obvious that he is a kept pretty boy, so he probably is on a short leash, and the computer is a great way to keep him occupied. Although beauty is most certainly in the eye of the beholder in this case.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/30 at 02:34 PM • permalink
- Love your site Tim but your comment threads get creepier every time I visit them, which is less and less.
That just means they’re having (one of) their intended effect(s). Since you can read Tim’s posts without ever encountering the comment threads, I’m now wondering why you’re reading them if all they do for you is to offend your widdle feewings?
- Will any right-wing commenter, at Kos for instance, ever receive the lofty platform of guest-poster and be able to use that platform as a place to off-load his/her long simmering stew?
Doubtful.
A nice gesture to be sure Mr. Blair, but I have to agree with #40 (david) on this one. Bryan needs his own blog (provided his wife allows it of course).
Next thing you know, “cripple-kickers” will be allowed to post at length on the do’s and dont’s of constructive “cripple-kicking”.
Where will it all end?
- Paco #47.
Thanks for this comment:
“A common error – or moral failure – of the left. I think many lefties fall into this trap because, at bottom, they don’t really believe in anything, so how could one mode of existence, in what they would call an “objective” sense, be superior to another? This is one reason why so many on the left have trouble condemning even the most archaic and reprehensible cultural aspects of Islam (the religious triumphalism, the suppression of women, etc.). “There is a lot in that. Are you saying that: BECAUSE the entire moral underpinnngs of the left are known and recent historics failures; therefore they have zero moral framework at all; therefore they have to rely exclusively on moral smugness backed by nothing?
That would tie in with the way they deliberately blind themselves to reality – because their worldview can only become ever more brittle.
On Nazis: Never met one. Would probably try and throttle such a bastard (apologies to all bastards out there for insulting you). Lived while in Sydney in the 90s next to a delightful old couple (since deceased). Both members of the Liberal party since arriving in Australia in 1949. After a year or so of getting to know them, I found out they met at Auschwitz in 1945. Thier local branch of the LP was the only one, I think, to hold a little annual celebration of Red Army Day! For some reason, even in the 1950s, nobody minded at all. Their marriage (as they said, both 16 years old, but they married as old, old people) is the only good story I have ever heard to come from such a place.
MarkL
Canberra
- The Real JeffS—Well, a kept boy, anyway. “Pretty”…. ehhhhh….*virtual hand wiggle*Posted by richard mcenroe on 08/30 at 07:46 PM • permalink
- I really7 don’t get what Bryla is on about. Is he trying to say that the Adelaide Institute isn’t a nazi organisation. Just pro-Nazi?
14/12/2000
The German Federal Court of Justice has ruled that anyone publishing pro-Nazi material on the internet can be subject to German law, regardless of his or her country of origin. The court found that an Australian national who runs the Adelaide Institute could be liable under legislation that bans the glorification of the Nazis and any denial of the Holocaust.
- I vote with Thomas and David. Blog away, Bryla – operative word here being away.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 08/30 at 08:26 PM • permalink
- #67: Mark, I would amend my statement only to add that there is one thing leftists believe in: the infinite malleability of man. But who is to do the bending and the molding? It’s always some visionary whose dream becomes everyone else’s nightmare, whose ears are stopped with his own monomaniacal pride against the lamentations of his fellow man.
- Jeff S and Sortelli, IMHO you are cowards hiding behind bluster and deception. You’re very good at insulting people who can’t answer back. My guess is that you also kick cripples and steal from blind men’s cups.
Ok, let’s all admit it. We’re a bit miffed that Bryla left off our names. Anytime a moonbat has a hissy fit, we want to be acknowledged as the source of the vitriol. We want our names prominently shouted out.
Ok, fine. If that’s the way it is, fine. Note to myself: Must start leaving Richard McEnroe alone (but he’s so badddd) and start bitch slapping the lefty loonies. Ok, I can handle that.
Posted by wronwright on 08/30 at 09:41 PM • permalink
- Hm, lizardflix is creeped out by the comments here. I can only assume that he thinks people here really do kick cripples and so on. I guess I’ll have to add a “sarcasm” or “joke” tag to the formatting buttons. Wouldn’t want to confuse anyone!Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 08/30 at 09:52 PM • permalink
- I can only assume that he thinks people here really do kick cripples and so on.
Well, you know how it goes on the Left, making fun of something is actually worse than doing it. The latter just shows you to be the mindless brute that the lefty thinks you to be anyway, while the former additionally offends his delicate sensibilities.
- wronwright — I didn’t hear how that Antarctic subglacial lake was coming along, lawn jockey. Our Dark Master is waiting for a progress report…Posted by richard mcenroe on 08/30 at 10:14 PM • permalink
- Well, so to speak, we do “kick” lefties here in some threads, in a virtual/textual fashion. Most lefties seem to handicap themselves in loading down their brains with all their socialist/moral equivilence crap.
So it’s safe to say that, in an indirect manner, we do kick cripples here. It’s just that the target is more personal than said lefties would like.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 08/31 at 03:10 AM • permalink
- You left out the best part: you can kick cripples with Alzheimers and *they don’t remember it* so they don’t try to get away the next time you come by to kick them.Posted by JorgXMcKie on 08/31 at 04:11 PM • permalink
Instead he falls back on the old “I am not responsible for… [Nazis, encouraging Al Qaeda or the Iraqi holdouts, insert consequence here]” Like most lefties, he feels entitled to a public forum without accepting the least responsibility for the consequences of his advocacy