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It’s never a good idea to take on a retired Marine:
The elderly man was walking with a grocery bag in each arm when the boy approached him with a large knife, [Santa Rosa police Sgt. Steve] Bair said.
The boy said, “Old man, give me your wallet or I’ll cut you,” Bair said. The man told the boy he was a former Marine who fought in three wars and had been threatened with knives and bayonets, Bair said.
The man then put his bags on the ground and told the boy that if he stepped closer he would be sorry. When the boy stepped closer, the man kicked him in the groin, knocking him to the sidewalk, Bair said. The ex-Marine picked up his grocery bags and walked home, leaving the boy doubled over, Bair said.
He’s 84 years old.
UPDATE. A correction: not a Marine. Our oldtimer served with the 101st Airborne.
No No, No!!….. the real isuue is the welfare of the poor waif, who may now have to endure life with non-functioning gonads!!! Shame the market for castrati singers is a little flat at present.
God, don’t we all wish we had been there, so as to put in the slipper after the old warrior had put in the hard work. In the brave new Oz, he’d probably be in the slammer now.
Hey, don’t mess with Australian swimmers, either!
- Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 05:31 AM • permalink
I’m sure Deveny will consult her muse while she’s squatting and conclude that Marines are nothing more than warmongers.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 05:35 AM • permalink
I’ve been watching episodes from Ken Burns’ new documentary series about the Second World War.
It has a lot of footage and commentary from former Marines who fought against the Japanese. These guys were seriously tough.
This little shit of a boy had it coming. May the pain in his groin serve as a reminder of his stupidity.
Posted by The Best Infidel on 2008 03 30 at 05:55 AM • permalink
- Posted by Toiling Mass on 2008 03 30 at 05:57 AM • permalink
- Rod C
“Shame the market for castrati singers is a little flat at present..”Thats not all thats a bit flat.Mincing gay: “Mmmm love your earrings babe, they Jean Paul Gaultier?”
84 year old Marines victim (so high piched bats squeal): “No My own”Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 30 at 05:58 AM • permalink
Yeah, don’t fuck with the Marines…
“I spent 33 years in the Marines. Most of my time being a high-classed muscle man for Big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street….”
– Smedley D. Butler (1881-1940) Major General (U.S. Marine Corps)
Must have been between 8 & 9, the warrior put the little pricks lights out.
Semper Fi.
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 30 at 06:39 AM • permalink
#15 If your point is that a former Marine felt like he was being used to enable the corporatisation by military force of various countries, then why did the good general push through for 3 decades? There are a litany of former service personnel worldwide who felt their contribution was not what they believed it to be. There’s far more who did understand what their service meant.
What else can you say that except “Sir. I salute you!”
Posted by Hank Reardon on 2008 03 30 at 06:53 AM • permalink
- USMC World War II
Holland M. Smith, General, U.S. Marine Corps (Ret.)Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 06:54 AM • permalink
Apparently I’m suffering from ‘false consciousness’. Only those from without can detect the steady state of my emotional, intellectual and physical wellbeing. Being so close to the issue at hand, I can’t see the wilful damage that my actions and those of my peers have inflicted upon the world.
Or it could be that #21 is full of shit.
What relevance, by the way, does #15’s dubious point have to the incident in Santa Rosa?
Is #15 / #21 suggesting that our sympathy should be with the mugger because some marines may at some point have done things for their country of which he disapproves?
It’s straight forward. Old guy kicks mugger’s butt. Is that really something you can find a negative in?
- Here’s the inside story.
From a bona fide jihadist, trained by Zawahiri himself.
If you prefer to be a Marine disrespecter, a USA basher, UN uber alles sovereignty usurper or a bleeding heart leftwanker surrender monkey, who are we to disagree?
“The Haditha killings (also called the Haditha incident or the Haditha massacre) refers to the incident where 24 Iraqi men, women and children were killed on November 19, 2005 in Haditha, a city in the western Iraq province of Al Anbar. At least 15 of those killed were noncombatant civilians and all were killed by a group ofUnited States Marines[1]”
#30 Vincennes you belong In the Hall of the King of the Trolls.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 07:29 AM • permalink
#23. “The issue of bombing the Nazi death camps or the rail lines leading to them has been debated for years _ and the lack of action was interpreted by some as a sign of Allied indifference.
The Allies had detailed reports about Auschwitz toward the end of World War II from escaped prisoners. But they chose not to bomb the camp, the rail lines, or any of the other Nazi death camps, preferring instead to focus all resources on the broader military effort.
Ah, the good old days before WWII, when everybody with a heart was a commie, thanks in part to Walter Duranty and his Pulitzer winning lies. Now we have someone equating todays 84 year old heroes with what, Mafia gunsels? Hey Vincennes, take your ‘False Truth’ and put it up your ass.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 07:32 AM • permalink
#34 deano #33 sounds like the last troll who wanted to pick on George Washington.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 07:38 AM • permalink
What else have you got Vinvennes.
#34. Still have a heart, unlike Dean I guess…
“Late crooner DEAN MARTIN was involved with the mafia and often performed for America’s most notorious mob bosses, according to a new biography which exposes files collated by the FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (FBI).
In his book DEAN MARTIN: KING OF THE ROAD, author MICHAEL FREEDLAND claims the THAT’S AMORE singer – who had denied links to the mafia until his death in 1998 – accepted the help of gangsters who owned saloons in Chicago during the early days of his career.”
USS Vincennes, when shooting down the airliner, was in the midst of some tense times. Mr. Troll of course wants to believe it was just cowboy shooting at the moon fun times.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 07:47 AM • permalink
- #40
Trolls do not like to be ignored. Makes them angry.Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 07:51 AM • permalink
#42 yes he was 14 years old and armed. What was cool was the old guy evened the score.
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 30 at 08:00 AM • permalink
Hi Ash! Just hanging out with my mob buddies.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 08:12 AM • permalink
Please try and keep up Vincennes.
- Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 08:21 AM • permalink
vincennes seems to think it is ok to bash woman. Or is that just something he does at home?
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 30 at 08:22 AM • permalink
#55 V lives in a cave like other trolls.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 08:24 AM • permalink
Orright Ash! Just make sure you’re the first.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 08:37 AM • permalink
First one here I mean. You may have to compete with Mr Booze at the moment.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 08:40 AM • permalink
And as for #53…uh…oh to hell with it. He’s trumped me.
Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 30 at 08:45 AM • permalink
- #55. THE US military has set dates for the court martials of four Marines accused of gang-raping a woman in Japan.
The woman, who was 19 at the time of the October incident in Hiroshima, said the soldiers raped her in a car, then stole her money. The military decided to court-martial the men amid public resentment following a string of criminal allegations against US soldiers stationed in Japan, one of Washington’s closest allies.
#29- Terribly sorry, Old Bean, but the Haditha beat-up is losing credibilty faster than you’re shedding neurones.
Yet another marine has had charges dropped, there’s not going to be too many defendants by the time it gets to trial if ever. The prosecution has already had to lessen charges, and even so are fining it increasingly difficult to proceed with these reduced indictments- what witnesses they have are less reliable than a North Korean power plant, and seeing as the whole thing is being driven by a traitorous piece of shit like John Murtha, aided and abetted by the equally vile Time magazine, the whole thing will likely go tits up before the first hearing, leaving the Judge Advocate’s office looking like an inept witch-hunter, and rightly so.
Why don’t you change yor name to Cole? With a bit of luck a gaggle of Yemeni yahoos would procede to drive a launch full of nitropril up your clacker and detonate it.
#58. “That was a terrorist act. That was terrorism. That was homeland terrorism. There isn’t any which way, if, ands or buts about it. They were terrorists,” Autry said.
Autry said he’s most bothered by the fact that all he had in his pocket that fateful night was less than $10. “I had roughly about $8 in my pocket. They tried to rob me for $8 and that’s the part that is going to haunt me for the rest of my life. Somebody lost their life through my hands for $8.”
Terrorist indeed! And not a Muslim in sight. Obviously things are going well in the Homeland…
Meanwhile Tim Blair reports:
Sydney Morning Herald and the Age busted again.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 30 at 08:55 AM • permalink
#66. ”…less reliable than a North Korean power plant…
Don’t you mean nuclear bomb…which they openly declared they had, but don’t get invaded for, ‘cos like, unlike Saddam, they have a nuke but no oil…?
<i>”…a traitorous piece of shit like John Murtha…”…
“…a captain, took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for service in the Vietnam War, serving from 1966 to 1967, serving as a battalion staff officer (S-2 Intelligence Section), receiving the Bronze Star with Valor device, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He retired from the Reserves as a colonel in 1990, receiving the Navy Distinguished Service Medal.”
A piece of shit indeed !
#65 “THE US military has set dates for the court martials of four Marines accused of gang-raping a woman in Japan”
That pretty much sums it up you dumb shit
Our side is not perfect,but at least we will not put up with that shit in the Armed Forces and will imprison offenders who do break the law………..Can’t say the same for the grubby turds that you flow along with.
Any bets before old vinnie gets the spear of destiny right up the proverbial?? He is not amusing and frankly the old marxist false consciousness’ clap trap is long past its used by date,
Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 2008 03 30 at 09:12 AM • permalink
#71 “A video taken by NBC newsman Kevin Sites during the Fallujah operation shows several wounded Iraqi men in a mosque with heavily armed U.S. Marines standing over them. The captives had already been searched for weapons the previous day and had been left on the floor overnight. One Marine can be heard on the video footage saying, “He’s fucking faking he’s dead.” This soldier then raises his rifle and fires right into the man’s head. Blood splatters onto the wall. A second Marine says, “Well, he’s dead now.” The execution of a wounded captive is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.
What Happened: The military ruled that the soldier in the Sites video acted “consistent with the established rules of engagement, the law of armed conflict and the Marine’s inherent right of self-defense.” No charges were filed.
The only charge stemming from the brutal assault on Fallujah has been against Marine sergeant Jose Luis Nazario, accused of murdering two Iraqi men. Nazario made a call on his radio after his squad captured four men in a house. An officer asked Nazario over the radio, “Are they dead yet?” When Nazario responded that the captives were still alive, he was allegedly told to “make it happen.” Nazario was charged only with voluntary manslaughter and allowed to remain free on $50,000 bail in Riverside, California, where he had become a cop after leaving the Marines. Another soldier is being investigated for executing the other two Iraqis in the same incident but has not been charged. The officer who gave the order to execute the captured men has not been identified or charged.
The fact the officer who gave the order has not been charged is probably another reason why ‘Winter Soldier’ has been a success…
58. “That was a terrorist act. That was terrorism. That was homeland terrorism. There isn’t any which way, if, ands or buts about it. They were terrorists,” Autry said.
Autry said he’s most bothered by the fact that all he had in his pocket that fateful night was less than $10. “I had roughly about $8 in my pocket. They tried to rob me for $8 and that’s the part that is going to haunt me for the rest of my life. Somebody lost their life through my hands for $8.”
Terrorist indeed! And not a Muslim in sight. Obviously things are going well in the Homeland…
Posted by Vincennes on 2008 03 30 at 08:52 AM •
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No muslims in sight……
They must have been working hard to make a good life for themselves in AMERICA just like shop owner Kahlid Malik defended by the Marine in post 36 instead of trying to rob someone for 8 dollars.
Goodnight all.
Ah, another troll, this one cherry picking and emphasizing the small percentage of Marines who either broke the law or were accused of breaking the law. All of whom were actually charged, and are being tried. As sparrow correctly points out.
Oh, and said troll is also cherry picking and emphasizing the small percentage of Marines who denied the tradition of the Marines, and went off in a different direction.
Anyone spot a pattern here? Cherry picks data, extrapolates from that?
Yup, intellectual dishonesty, to the nth degree.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 09:29 AM • permalink
Vincennes. I’d love to see you dressed in orange. Quivering while some maniac reads his religious reasoning as to why he’s about to take your head off.
Then sends the video to the world. What’s happened to those turds Vincennes? They gain mileage because of gutless, fucked up western geeks like you Vincennes.
Take a tablet, go to sleep, stay that way.
#70- I think you’ll find that Murtha’s record is very similar to those of his party fellows Kerry and Clinton.
Oddly enough, unlike other veterans Rep Murtha isn’t held in high regard by his fellows. What’s the matter, snookums, did mummy make you go to bed before Earth Hour was over? You know how you get cranky when you’re overtired. (And I know how hard it is to nap on those nasty rubber sheets).
Yo, “Vincennes”, more cherry picking in #73, huh?
*Snort*
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 09:35 AM • permalink
Not to mention, Habib, that Murtha is the King of Pork in Congress, so he can hardly hold a candle to Butler, who eschewed capitalism (except for getting paid to speak to like minded people….funny how capitalism works, even for socialsts, eh?).
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 09:38 AM • permalink
And let’s not forget just how intellectually dishonest Murtha is.
Kinda like “Vincennes”, now that I think about it. What an odd coincidence!
Not.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 09:41 AM • permalink
Woo hoo! The always fatal CHICKENHAWK ARGUMENT appears in #82!
AAUUGGGHHH!!!! I’m done! I’m dead! “Vincennes” hath struck a deadly blow!
Whoa is me!
;-P
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 09:42 AM • permalink
- An Old Marine’s
Bittersweet Encounter
With Today’s YouthThe boy drew a knife
And said, ‘Give me cash,
Or I’ll see your guts.’
He made the blade flash.The Old Marine saw
The knife and he sighed,
And set down his bags
And gently replied.‘Boy, there is one thing
I will guarantee:
My guts are just what
You don’t want to see.’The boy tried to talk,
But there was no sound;
The Old Marine grabbed
His bags from the ground.Business concluded
On this thoughtful note:
‘Don’t try to talk with
Your nuts in your throat.’‘It’s sad getting old,’
The Old Marine said,
‘Your nuts ought to be
In Denver instead.’
- 15.
The troll whos currently fingerprinting with feces appears to have gained his first bit of info from Nexus magazine.
Unfortunately their site appears to be down at the moment or id link to a few of their articles on zero point energy, UFO’s, past lives and out old favourite David Ike.Nice base of facts to run your life on weirdo.See the difference between slug balls such as yourself and most of the people here can be summed up in one of your own posts.
“..THE US military has set dates for the court martials of four Marines accused of gang-raping a woman in Japan.
The woman, who was 19 at the time of the October incident in Hiroshima, said the soldiers raped her in a car, then stole her money..”You read that and see bad US army.
I read that and say bad individual members of the US army, I then see they are facing court martials, and if found guilty will be put in a prison which (from a mates experience) is far more punishing than any civillian prison ever is.
That tells me they are quite capable of policing their own.Still you just keep fapping off to that old footage of beheadings…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 30 at 09:50 AM • permalink
Um…to return to the topic of this posting, however briefly…
I wonder at the vague explanation of the perp: “male, 15 or 16 years old’’ covers an awful lot of territory. A hint as to hair color and complexion might narrow the field a bit.
Anyway it’s a nice pick-me-up story for a Sunday morning 🙂 I bet when the old guy got home his wife said “Did you find everything OK?’’ and he said “Yeah’’ without even telling her about the little pause in his walk home.
Posted by Sonetka’s Mom on 2008 03 30 at 09:58 AM • permalink
5. Hey, don’t mess with Australian swimmers, either!
or with former beauty queens.
Miss America 1944 has a talent that likely has never appeared on a beauty
pageant stage: She fired a handgun to shoot out a vehicle’s tires and stop
an intruder.Venus Ramey, 82, confronted a man on her farm in south-central Kentucky last
week after she saw her dog run into a storage building where thieves had
previously made off with old farm equipment.Ramey said the man told her he would leave. “I said, ‘Oh, no you won’t,’ and
I shot their tires so they couldn’t leave,” Ramey said.
But Smedley outlined the tradition of the Marines…who are you to contradict him..?
MG Butler lived up to the tradition of the Marines, he didn’t “outline” them. The Marines were formed in 11775, so he had plenty of tradition to build upon.
And I don’t have to contradict MG Butler, your quote of his was made after he retired from the Marines. When he was speaking as a private citizen. So, applying some of that famous leftie nuance, I would not be contradicting MG Butler, but (as you put it), “Smedley”.
It’s sad that he chose to be bitter about being passed over for Commandant. Butler was one helluva Marine, but he angered too many of his civilian superiors. I’m sure that you missed this during your intellectual dishonesty, but that’s not something you do as a member of the US armed forces.
Butler was a great combat Marine, not so much in peace time.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 30 at 10:27 AM • permalink
Vincennes has been sent to the cornfield.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2008 03 30 at 10:38 AM • permalink
Another “cut & paste” loser banished. Oh the humanity!
=^0
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 30 at 11:03 AM • permalink
1) Off-Topic but maybe not so much: Dith Pran passed away from cancer. He was the original interpreter that served as the basis for the interpreter that got left behind in “The Killing Fields.” If you haven’t seen that film, you should, esp. the likes of Vincennes.
Given the loud cries from certain segments for withdrawal from Iraq, now is a good time to review what happened when we withdrew from Vietnam .
“The regime of Pol Pot, bent on turning Cambodia back into a strictly agrarian society, and his Communist zealots were blamed for the deaths of nearly 2 million of Cambodia’s 7 million people.”
Come to think of it, there’s a big overlap of the Withdraw from Iraq subset of society with the Greenie Turn Us Back to an Agrarian Society subset.
I’m just sayin’
2) On-topic: The marine did a good deed. If you let thugs get away with thuggery, they only go on to more thuggery – most likely against people who are not as well equipped for defense as this man was. People like me, for instance YES!! I am VERY grateful that people like that marine exist, and exercise their prowess against thugs.
Posted by Persnickety on 2008 03 30 at 02:22 PM • permalink
What “Vincennes” failed to note, among other things, was that Gen. Butler didn’t seem to have a problem with his orders during his 30+ year career.
He did seem to take issue with having been passed over as commandant of the Marine Corps, after which he retired from service.
Then he took up a new career in public speaking and writing books. In the very isolationist 1930s, he certainly came up with material that sold.
“Vincennes” also leaves a lot unsaid about the Haditha incident, particularly the results of the investigation of the troops involved.
But then, that wouldn’t do his argument much good, would it?
Thanks for the website link of our guest Pogria. Did anyone check out the books section? Camus, Dostoyevsky etc etc. Talk about a generic “books to make me look like a deep intellectual” list. There’s an internet principle that people who actually had read those authors wouldn’t feel the need to post them all up on the internet. It’s sort of an literary – those who talk about it the most do it the least – sort of thing.
I don’t know if that is actually him, but, like you said, check out the reading list!!!!
It’s almost as if there’s a generic range of lefty spaces to choose from.
They all come complete with the required reading and music lists, quotations, and cut and paste articles to show those conservatives just who they’re messing with!
All you have to do is “insert picture here”, and you’re ready to go! hahahahaha
- ahh a great read! sparrow, thanks for the links. i love reading these stories that seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately. the phrase no such thing as an ex-marine just gets proved time and time again. these old codgers are a force to be dealt with. (laughing at the young punks that think they are so tough!)
pogria, that was a great link.. whether its him or not, it was funny. cheers missus!
- I expected the followup like this:
“The cop added, ‘I only mention this incident because the young man has filed a charge against the old man for an unprovoked attack.
Since the old man did not pick up any evidence [like the knife] he won’t be able to prove he acted in self defence. A civil case for reduced fertility is also expected if there is no criminal conviction. We also have anti-vigilante laws that will apply.’”
This is the kind of heart warming story that, well, warms the heart 🙂
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 03 30 at 07:14 PM • permalink
Hotair has a video link to an 80+ year old man who kicked a teenage mugger in the teeth.
That video says he was 101st airborne.
No offense to the Marines, but credit where credit is due.
Either way, the old man represents the best of us. We need more like him. All we can get.
#104 Never trust anyone without MAD magazine in their reading list.
Posted by carpefraise on 2008 03 31 at 12:04 AM • permalink
The troll also appears to be resorting to the classic “I keep repeating the same old crap over and over so I win” mantra.
Oh and the “just because I’m repeating the same old debunked claims over and over it doesn’t count unless you debunk it AGAIN and pay attention t meeeeee or I win” tactic too.
IIRC, the “captive” shot in Fallujah was hardly a captive. Where were the guards who watched them overnight? Well?
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2008 03 31 at 12:57 PM • permalink
…and I make my comment before I find that Andrea decided to disallow the troll an outlet for it’s sociopathy. Bummer.
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2008 03 31 at 01:03 PM • permalink
#85 Rewrite, Lyle! The old timer was one of my guys! Go Army!
Actually, my Dad was a career Navy man, and had a few similar experiences. The punks thought they could take him, but reconsidered when they saw the look on his eye, and his fists ready for action.
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 31 at 03:28 PM • permalink
Vincennes, if you were dedicated to the truth you wouldn’t be looking at Kevin Sites, believing that Winter Soldier is a success, and cherry picking. Try Michael Yon for information of what is going on in Iraq. There will always be those that disagree with America’s foreign policy, but they are far outnumbered by those who agree.
You and your fellows need to ask yourselves, how does the enemy see my “dissent”. Your comments and actions get your fellow Americans, and civilians killed. BTW, why is the Left not interested in Afghanistan? Where were your protests when we went into Kosovo/Bosnia under President Clinton, 10 years ago? Why weren’t you protesting the 7500 that died under Clinton?
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 31 at 03:55 PM • permalink
#94 Vincennes has been sent to the cornfield.
But, but, but…we were having soooo much fun! Now you’ve fouled the fuel for my car, and the cattle feed. We were planning on some nice bbq, Miss Andrea. But now…!
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 31 at 05:33 PM • permalink
#102 What “Vincennes” failed to note, among other things, was that Gen. Butler didn’t seem to have a problem with his orders during his 30+ year career.
(sigh) Steve, Steve, Steve…don’t you know that facts are meaningless to oxygen pirates like Vinnie.
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 31 at 06:07 PM • permalink
Hey, let’s focus on the real issue here: was the Marine using plastic shopping bags?