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Last updated on August 6th, 2017 at 05:45 am

A friend’s young daughter came home from school the other day in tears, having been told by a visiting academic that her North Sydney suburb would one day be flooded due to global warming. Alarmed, her father called the school, which confirmed – with regret – the comments made. This child abuse is happening all over the place:

• A Toronto girl was reportedly unable to sleep after seeing An Inconvenient Truth;

• Nine-year-old Sydney boy Ryan Gwin suffers anxiety over the fuel consumed by his father’s bus;

• And another nine-year-old, Virginia’s Alex Hendel, fears the end of life on the earth.

Well done, global warm-mongers. You’ve got kids terrified out of their minds:

While recent polls show that American adults are most concerned about the war in Iraq, terrorism, and healthcare, a survey of more than 1,000 middle school students across the country found that kids fear global warming more than any of these issues …

Nearly 60 percent of children said they feared global warming and environmental disasters – such as hurricanes, tornados and flooding – more than terrorism, car crashes, and even cancer.

Note that adults aren’t scared of global warming; the “scientific consensus” on global warming seems mostly to worry that sector of the population generally frightened of boogeymen and the dark.

Nearly one-third of children reported thinking about global warming a lot and worrying about how the effects of global warming will change the planet and directly impact their lives. Another 41.2 percent think about it sometimes and say that they are somewhat worried …

When asked what effect of global warming worries them the most, the majority of kids surveyed are most afraid of the toll it will take on the lives of people.

They think people will die. Nice. The survey’s sponsors seem satisfied with these results:

“We were not surprised in our survey to discover that children are really worried about global warming. We have received thousands of emails from children expressing their fears and asking what they could do to help save the planet,” said BrainPOP CEO and founder Avraham Kadar, M.D.

“Given the media attention from things like Hurricane Katrina and the tsunamis in Asia, it’s no wonder that children are curious and concerned about the impact of global warming.”

Keep telling them that sea-floor earthquakes and historically-constant hurricanes are the result of man’s evil ways; see what levels of misery you can induce. Meanwhile, those who earn $50,000 for alarmist speeches are comfortable and relaxed:

Environmentalist Tim Flannery munches on a club sandwich in a suburban Sydney shopping mall and casually begins predicting Armageddon.

I’ve got two young nieces in the Victorian school system, Flannery. Stay the hell away from them.

Posted by Tim B. on 04/23/2007 at 01:06 PM
    1. This indoctrination of the young is of course a staggering success of the warmeners, something they are, I am certain, quite proud of.

      Or is it? (such a success)?

      How many of us cut our teeth by deliberately “questioning authority” and essentially establishing ourselves on that wonderful foundation of “I Am Not My Elders”? Consider further that these kids will come to be ten and fifteen years older, and the question of global warming will likely by then be either fairly obviously a fraud or the obvious truth. If it is true, we are where we are, but if it isn’t true (or is hugely overblown), wouldn’t you think today’s kids, tomorrow’s voters, will be remember just who fed them all this drivel and to what end?

      Could be a burgeoning blowback here.

      Posted by Andrew X on 2007 04 23 at 01:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Maybe we should change the sticker to
      “Academic, rope, lamppost: some assembly required”.

      Absolutely friggin’ horrendous.

      Posted by Firehand on 2007 04 23 at 01:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. The upside to this (while not especially comforting at the moment) is that these kids will eventually outgrow their fears, and, we can hope, will learn a healthy mistrust of slick con men who use predictions about the future to push an agenda.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 04 23 at 01:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. I certainly hope that Andrew X is right. CO2 hysteria will eventually go the way of acid rain, it’s just a question of whether we on the side of sanity will be able to hold off the wholesale changes to society that the AGW crowd is planning to implement for long enough.

      As for adults who already believe in the globally warmed Armageddon, I think we should start telling them, “If there’s no future, then there’s no sense voting in elections, right?”

      Posted by PW on 2007 04 23 at 02:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Given the media attention from things like … the tsunamis in Asia, it’s no wonder that children are curious and concerned about the impact of global warming.”

      I love when somebody brings that up in front of me. It is soooo satisfying when I start to question them about tsunamis.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 04 23 at 02:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. #s1, 3 and 4:

      Or the opposite could happen. Environmental fear-mongering integrated with Chomsky-lite history and current events classes and we could have our nation’s students growing up believing that their country, its history and institutions are so thoroughly evil that their culture is not worth preserving…and right about the time domestically grown radical Islam overtly challenges Western nations.  I see no good in this.  I hope that I am wrong.

      “The mind of a man is molded from that a child; Great educators have always known this.  So have tyrants.”

      Posted by Mark Razak on 2007 04 23 at 02:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. There have been fewer and weaker hurricaines of late.  They should stop lying.

      http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=62

      Posted by hollingshead on 2007 04 23 at 03:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Daddy, my teacher says that gorbal warmenering is gonna kill lots and lots of people!”

      “Never mind, honey. You teacher is simply an ignorant idiot. And you can tell her I said so.”

      Posted by mojo on 2007 04 23 at 03:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. I remember duck and cover practice drills at school, and despite the worry by the adults they tried to shield kids from adult worries. What they’re doing to kids today under the guise of informing them really does seem like child abuse.

      Posted by Retread on 2007 04 23 at 03:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. What happened to the idea of age appropriate material?  On one hand, these people are all about “do it for the children”, and on the other they’re scaring the hell out of them.  Personally seems like a bit of a contradiction.

      Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 23 at 03:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. I think they think they are “doing it for the children”, which is the most scary part of it.

      Posted by PW on 2007 04 23 at 04:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. #1 Andrew X –

      How many of us cut our teeth by deliberately “questioning authority” and essentially establishing ourselves on that wonderful foundation of “I Am Not My Elders”?

      I think there are more than a few commenters here who wore long hair during the 1960’s and 1970’s and protested the war.  And the establishment.  Religion.  Our parents.  Institutions such as marriage.  And we found out 90% of what we said was bull shit.

      I regret never having a chance to tell my father he was right.  The least I can do is to carry his common sense way of thinking and to oppose the nonsense coming from the left.

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 04 23 at 04:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm.

      If it were **MY** child being unnecessarily scared by these idiotic twits I’d have a really thorough “discussion” about this nonsense with the individuals involved.

      And then they’d get some dental work done.

      Posted by memomachine on 2007 04 23 at 04:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #1 It will be interesting times in a decade or so.  By then the climate models will be considerably more sophisticated, and an extra decade of trends would significantly reduce uncertainty.  One camp or another will look back on their views of this time and feel pretty silly (at least, those not prone to revise history to suit their ideologies).  Even if rises continue, I personally expect the forecasts will have to be revised downwards, just like the latest IPCC report compared with the 2001 report.

      In the meantime, the political boat has sailed and it is important to come up with a ‘response’ or ‘cure’ that is not worse than the disease.  In the present climate, cautious, incremental and most importantly, appropriate strategies inevitably will be criticised for not being sufficient to address the crisis.

      Even if the temperature does continue to rise, though, people running around talking about massive sea level rises etc. will not be regarded well by tomorrow’s yoof.

      Posted by entropy on 2007 04 23 at 05:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. This reminds me of a Deep Thought by Jack Handey:

      If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is “God is crying.” And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is “Probably because of something you did.”

      Posted by E. Nough on 2007 04 23 at 05:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sheryl Crow wants to ration toilet paper to stop global warming.

      I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting.  Now, I don’t want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required. When presenting this idea to my younger brother, who’s judgement I trust implicitly, he proposed taking it one step further. I believe his quote was, “how bout just washing the one square out.”

      not sure if the blog is fake or real. very hard to tell….

      Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2007 04 23 at 05:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. Kid’s TV is saturated with this rubbish. Saw one bit, with a girl doing her homework, when along comes the concerned guest scientist and tells her why she should turn the lights off (no, Infidel Tiger – not for that reason!) and open the blinds instead. I’d be telling her that too, to save on my electricity bill, but does he say that? No, these days they should do it the prevent Global Warming.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 23 at 05:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16 How about a ply, just one ply?

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 04 23 at 05:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. A couple of decades back our professional handwringers had children (and a good many of their parents) convinced pre-schools were being run by secret cabals of pedophiles.

      These people never learn, are never held to account, and will never stop.

      Posted by cosmo on 2007 04 23 at 05:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. #19 Cosmo,

      That’s the vibe I get, too. If you denied the Satanic Ritual Abuse was occuring then you too were implicated!*

      “Deny” Gobby Wernering and you are in cahoots with Big Oil.
      ____________________________
      *Janet Reno rose to political prominence on a sham prosecution that destroyed innocent lives. Bitch.

      Posted by JDB on 2007 04 23 at 06:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. When I was 8 or so there was a story about how an earthquake could possibly knock southern California (where we were at the time) into the sea. It kept me up for acouple of nights with visions of the ocean coming over the horizon and drowning us all. My dad finally gave me a disgusted look and said, “I don’t think you need to worry about that.” End of fears.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 04 23 at 07:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. Surely we are approaching a point where class action legal action is in order to stop this level of child abuse?

      Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 04 23 at 07:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. Keep telling them that sea-floor earthquakes and historically-constant hurricanes are the result of man’s evil ways; see what levels of misery you can induce. Meanwhile, those who earn $50,000 for alarmist speeches are comfortable and relaxed:

      But wait – the indoctrination of adults also is being pushed.  Yesterday I received this notice:

      Joint CIBSE/SBSE Meeting Notice
      Wednesday 2nd May 2007

      Australia’s Inconvenient Truth

      Caroline Pidcock is an architect with genuine interest and experience in sustainable built environments.

      Late in 2006, Caroline was selected as one of 85 Australians to be personally trained by Al Gore to deliver his slide show presentation on climate change.

      The Al Gore slide show brings the reality of climate change into our lives.

      Caroline has been looking at how architects/designers can make the work we do more responsive to finding solutions in such a future. After an edited, slightly Australianised Gore show, we will look at 10 steps we can take to enhance our work practices and outcomes.

      So the missionary’s work has started.

      I won’t be attending.

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 23 at 07:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16 #18 How about no ply – yes that’s right – no ply Indonesian style?

      Indonesian style: hole in the floor, no paper – just a bowl of water with a cup for washing purposes.

      In the picture note the placement of the water to the left of the toilet, because the left hand is for washing with the right hand for eating and greeting and never the opposite.

      There is usually a towel provided to dry your hands but if the weather is warm enough it may not be needed because natural air drying can be rapid.

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 23 at 07:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. Global Warmen-iser-ating is being blamed for everything, and everything we do is to alleviate GW. It’s permeated everything, and it’s ridiculous. I’m tired of the endless harping on all media about saving the world and we’re killing the earth. I have decided I am cutting down on bullshit emisssions from the television. Whenever I hear any subject covered on television directed to the GW angle I will change the channel or switch off.

      Why are children being frightened with this rubbish?

      Hearing some Green nong on the radio announcing that they will reduce carbon emissions to 80% by 2050. They don’t say HOW they are going to do that. None of them say HOW or what the cost will be.

      I heard two conflicting reports yesterday about what John Howard said about GW and reducing carbon emissions. I tend to believe that he said there were more important things to worry about, like keeping Australia prosperous.

      I remember Diana Fisher on the Inventors. Her catch-phrases were “Does it come in other colours?” and “Is it safe for the kiddies?” Similar empty words are still uttered, but now it’s “And how does this fit with GW?”

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 07:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. #24, Hi Wand,

      a couple of places I worked at over the years, had a high level of asian employees.
      When I would go to use the loo, there were always shoe prints on the toilet seat.

      I had to spend five minutes cleaning the dirt from the shoes off the seat.

      Their aim was pretty good though. I only had to clean dirt off the seat, not the other stuff.

      Would have been a hoot watching them balance on the loo.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 04 23 at 07:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. I believe that children are our future. This being the case, maybe we can control them with fear.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 23 at 07:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. I’m no Climate Change sceptic (i’m agnostic on the issue) but what really annoys me is stories like this.

      Guys – if your scientific case for anthropogenic Climate Change is so strong, then why do you seek to silence your opponents?  Surely you would welcome public debate with open arms?

      By stifling debate, you make it look as though you have something to hide. Or, *whisper it*, that you aren’t sure yourselves.

      Posted by pommygranate on 2007 04 23 at 08:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #26 No doubt it would have seemed unsanitary to them to actually put their butt on the seat other people sat on.

      More seriously and about the subject of scaring children… you have to be careful because kids don’t often understand *scale*.  Saying that the sun will go nova in a hundred billion years is like saying that the sun will go nova tomorrow.

      Posted by Synova on 2007 04 23 at 08:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. I think they think they are “doing it for the children”, which is the most scary part of it.

      No, they don’t give a rat’s about the children; in fact, if they truly hold to their beliefs they have to think the world would be a better place if most of them weren’t born (howzat for a cheery thought about the folks responsible for your kids’ safety from 9 to 3, guys?)

      What they know is, it’s a great way to get at the kids’ parents… just like PETA.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 04 23 at 08:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. #28 pommygranate

      Notice too that they call them sceptics. These scientists are not sceptics. They believe (as I do) that climate change is occuring. How does agreement on a principal idea make them a sceptic? They don’t agree that it is man made. Also notice that the left doesn’t go all PC when the term man made is used? It’s okay to be gender biased when your talking about the end of the world and who’s to blame!

      On scaring the poor kiddies, don’t the leftards realise their fundamental mistake in their agenda? ‘Turn the lights off or you’ll kill the polar bears’ will scare an 8 year old so much that they will have no choice but to sleep with the lights on.

      Posted by Justin on 2007 04 23 at 08:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. 16.  drscroogemcduck

      She brings that in and Im never shaking hands with anyone EVER again.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 23 at 08:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. #23 Wand
      As an architect who has no vested interest at all in changes to the built environment to combat the effects of the greaseball wermacht, Ms Pidcock is the ideal professional to adopt the missionary position.

      Comes among you to do good, does very well indeed.

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 23 at 09:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. #33
      Sorry, strike that, her interests are genuine

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 23 at 09:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. #33 Pickles

      Ms Pidcock is the ideal professional to adopt the missionary position.

      Hmmm … interesting.  Ah yes, the missionary position.

      I’m still not attending.

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 23 at 09:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. How many of us cut our teeth by deliberately “questioning authority” and essentially establishing ourselves on that wonderful foundation of “I Am Not My Elders”?

      I ended up a conservative by “questioning authority”.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 04 23 at 09:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. I have a 6 year old daughter at school in Balmain, the heart of latte-leftie country in Sydney.  She’s pretty bright and for some years now we have been telling her the truth about the environment and the motives of those who preach global warming.  We had to do this because she was literally terrified that we would all die very soon.

      She caught on to our message and has converted most of her class of littlies.  Last term the school had a substitute teacher who was a global warming preacher. Picture the scene as he ranted away and these 6 year olds all laughed at him! He raised it with me after class to protest the class behaviour and when I attacked his views he was so astounded he couldn’t talk.  He had never been confronted with a differing opinion before.

      Posted by allan on 2007 04 23 at 10:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. What personally pisses me off the most is how the scare-mongering is so pervasive, and how seemingly no TV program can do without it.

      The other day I was watching what seemed like a pretty nifty 45-minute documentary assembling evidence that the Biblical deluge may be based on an apparent large-scale flooding of plains around what is now the Black Sea, when the planet emerged from a ice age and the water eventually broke through a massive natural dam at the Bosporus. Whatever the merits of it, for about 35 minutes the show tied together archaeological and geological evidence, computer models about the physical effects of the postulated flooding, and a whole bunch more things, in a fairly intelligent manner.

      And then they spent the final 10 minutes on:

      – some pseudo-scientific hogwash that strongly insinuated that pretty much all flooding myths around the world simply must be based on this event, even among Amazonian native tribes and other peoples far-flung from Europe/Asia Minor, and
      – how we’re RIGHT NOW in the process of causing catastrophic flooding again with our evil climate-changing CO2 emissions, complete with the obligatory scientist who utters lots of words while saying absolutely nothing of substance.

      All in all, a thought-provoking show totally ruined by the apparent inability of anybody working in TV to just shut the fuck up about the climate already, if even for a few minutes.

      Posted by PW on 2007 04 23 at 10:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. #35 Wand

      And..and..and her name’s got “cock” in it!!

      Geez if I sat down and thought for a few days, I bet I could come up with some funny stuff about a person whose name has a “cock” in it!!! nerk nerk.

      The “Pid” makes it a bit hard though.

      What’s a “Pid”?

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 23 at 10:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. These same asswipe leftists were scaring the bejesus out of little kids 25 years ago with nightmares of Cowboy Ronnie Raygun starting a nuclear holocaust.

      It IS child abuse. The bastards.
      .

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 23 at 10:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #37 allan

      Last term the school had a substitute teacher who was a global warming preacher. Picture the scene as he ranted away and these 6 year olds all laughed at him! He raised it with me after class to protest the class behaviour and when I attacked his views he was so astounded he couldn’t talk.  He had never been confronted with a differing opinion before.

      Good for you! It’s like debating a Scientologist.

      Thou shall not enturbulate.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 23 at 10:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. #38 PW

      exactly my point.

      Everything is turning into AGW (We must act now to save the earth) propaganda.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 10:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yeah, I’m even seeing AGW crap in effing comic strips.

      Getting pervasive, indeed.  I hope I don’t see this garbage come down my agency stovepipes—I’d have to take a deep breath before responding with a very emphatic “WTF!??!?!?!?!?

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 04 23 at 10:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. When I was in ‘fear’ mode (what’s that, about 7-13?) it was all about the coming nuclear war.

      My sister is five years younger than me.  They scared her with the environment.  She’s now 30.

      Of course, we were all going to freeze when she was young.

      The tsunami thing absolutely sends me mental.  How can you even pretend you know what you’re talking about when you blame shifting plates on the environment?  Maybe Gaia lives in the Earth’s core, and that is how she shows her anger?  Freaks.

      Mostly, they’ve never heard of Krakatoa—killed loads between the eruptions and the envirowaves tsunamis.  Apparently Gaia was pissed off as far back as 1883.  Maybe she just hates Indonesia?

      Posted by hella on 2007 04 23 at 10:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43 TRJ

      apparently the frog in the pot thing is a myth, too.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 10:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. What is with these GW apocalytics and their obsession with toilet paper?  They’re all so anal retentive about it, I can’t imagine them needing any anyway.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 04 23 at 11:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. apocalyptics.  PIMF.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 04 23 at 11:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. apparently the frog in the pot thing is a myth, too.

      kae, according to Snopes, that “frog in a pot” story is indeed a myth.

      That’s two strikes against Funky Winkerbean…..what’s next, a cameo appearance by Gorezilla?

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 04 23 at 11:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #39 PID = Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. 🙂

      Aren’t you glad you asked?

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 23 at 11:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #46 RebeccaH, regarding one square of toilet paper, I’ll bet none of these idiots would know how to handle a 4 year old with the runs in that case.

      I’ll be using half a roll of paper, not just one measly square. I don’t care how many ply it is.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 23 at 11:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. #38 I thought it’s been widely accepted for a very long time that there was a flooding event starting in Montana due to the glacial dam on a truly massive lake failing all at once.  It completely scoured Utah, or something.

      Sometimes I wish scientists would talk to each other.

      Posted by Synova on 2007 04 23 at 11:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yeah, TRJ, I couldn’t be bothered linking to snopes’ frog in the pot thingy. But I have heard it somewhere else, too.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 11:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. #50

      #46 RebeccaH, regarding one square of toilet paper, I’ll bet none of these idiots would know how to handle a 4 year old with the runs in that case.

      A hose.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 11:41 PM • permalink

 

    1. news flash – this morning flannel the weather womble received the communicator of the year award at a public relations institute of australia breakfast.  not a science breakfast, you’ll note

      Posted by KK on 2007 04 23 at 11:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. A little O/T

      SOSE to be dropped from curriculum hoo-bloody-rah!

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 23 at 11:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. #49 Nilknarf

      Pelvic Inflammatory Disease Cock
      Oh joy

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 04 24 at 12:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Some potentially good global wormering news: Tim Flannery is considering giving back his Australian of the year award.

      According to Crikey (not available on the public site):
      Flannery said that when the two main political parties were taking such different approaches on climate change he was not sure how he could avoid politicising the award. “I am treading a very difficult line” he said. “It may be impossible to continue as things are.”

      That would be a real shame.

      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 04 24 at 12:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #51 Synova

      Sometimes I wish scientists would talk to each other.

      Professional jealousies.

      Don’t be surprised. My uncle used to be a working archeologist. He knows!

      #38 PW

      There was an otherwise excellent TV documentary about the Little Ice Age (Little Ice Age, Big Chill) that thoroughly documented the causal relationship between downward fluctuations in solar activity and dramatic global temperature drops worldwide… until the last 15 minutes of the two-hour feature: while every one of their experts freely admitted that solar activity has steadily increased since the 1850s, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any warming trend which happens to precisely coincide with it. That warming, naturally, is caused by mankind’s burning of fossil fuels. Period.

      I am not kidding.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 24 at 12:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #57 Ernest

      Flannery said that when the two main political parties were taking such different approaches on climate change he was not sure how he could avoid politicising the award. “I am treading a very difficult line” he said. “It may be impossible to continue as things are.”

      That would be a real shame.

      snark, snark, giggle, snort

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 12:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. #37 Allan

      when I attacked his views he was so astounded he couldn’t talk

      Well done!

      I had a laugh when I read this.  You reminded me of a time last year when I attended an AIE event here in Sydney. [AIE is the Australian Institute of Energy – and I am a member].  Actually I forget what the evening seminar was about.  Anyway prior to the meeting, the usual socialising took place outside the lecture hall.  During this time I was approached by a dishevelled looking young man who wanted to know what we were going to do when we ran out of energy.  I asked him what he did for a living and he said he was an activist.  When I told him that the idea of the earth running out of energy was bullshit and proceeded to describe a few of the many available energy sources, he took fright and said that because I disagreed with him he wasn’t going to talk to me anymore.  Then he promptly left!

      The whole conversation took all of a few minutes.  LOL!

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 24 at 12:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #39, in my line of work, PID is Party IDentification—i.e., are you a Democrat, Independent, or Republican (with some strength indicators).  That’s easier to live with than Nilknarf’s.  ;->=

      Also, where I work (in an academic building with lotsa classrooms) we have a public restroom on my floor, and every so often I go into it and see that someone has built what looks like a nest of toilet paper on the squatter.  They don’t remove it, so I’m guessing then don’t want to touch it after using it so as not to touch the seat.  Must be using about 80 feet of that godawful no-sheet continuous role of TP made so thin no one wants to steal it.  Perhaps Crow would like to investigate.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 04 24 at 12:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58 Spiny Norman

      That warming, naturally, is caused by mankind’s burning of fossil fuels. Period.

      I’ve watched lots of Time Team programmes on the ABC.

      I know that the earlier global warming was caused by all those coal-fired pottery ovens and all the cremations in the first few centuries in the UK.

      They can’t hide it any more. It was industrialisation. And it was happening way before this. Hundreds of years before.

      The only solution is to get rid of man.

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 12:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. I love Time Team, kae. :^)

      Unfortunately, it’s usually on at weird hours here in the States, like midday when I ought to be working, or very late in the evening, when I ought to be sleeping…

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 24 at 12:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. #60 Wand

      During this time I was approached by a dishevelled looking young man who wanted to know what we were going to do when we ran out of energy.

      Disheveled? LOL! Was he strangely unblinking and carrying a sign reading, “Repent Ye Sinners! The End is Nigh!”?

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 24 at 12:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. #59 kae
      It’s nice that this is a place where you don’t always have to spell out <sarcasm>!

      #63 Spiny

      I love Time Team, kae. :^)

      I thought this was 1.6 typing too fast at first…

      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 04 24 at 12:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. It’s on ABC here at 6pm on Tuesday evening.
      Hey, I have a date tonight!!
      I call it “The digging up British backyards show”. But they’ve actually done some work in Europe, too.

      Time Team

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 12:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. No, Time Team, not “Tim Tam”.

      ;^)

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 24 at 12:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. #65 maybe that should be snarkasm

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 12:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. #68 You’re right. I’m LOLing about now.

      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 04 24 at 12:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. Completely off topic, but it is my pleasure to announce the arrival, a few days a go of a son and heir to the Razor fortune, future West Coast Eagles draft pick or Western Force Outside Centre and Duntroon Graduate (No pushy parent syndrome here!!!).  Mrs Razor and Junior are doing well.  The Razorette is pretty pleased to have a little brother and the dog is pleased that I am back to walking him.

      Posted by Razor on 2007 04 24 at 12:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. CONGRATULATIONS to the Razors

      Wishing you lots of love, much joy, and a little sleep!

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 12:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70 – Congratulations you magnificent bastard!

      Now get cracking on one more for the country.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 24 at 12:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. #31 good point!

      i guess ‘person-made’ climate change doesn’t have quite the same ring

      Posted by pommygranate on 2007 04 24 at 01:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70 Hearty congratulations, Razor.  Glad that all are doing well. That sounds like a fine set of parental aspirations (though I’d go for the Force over the West Coast Ice Skaters).  And the dog’s pleased that you’re walking the little brother?  [Ignore me, I’m almost on holidays for the rest of the week…]
      Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 04 24 at 01:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58 – Spiny, I saw the same one. That part struck me, too. But what was even funnier was that they spent the entire program explaining how the warm times were wonderful for civilzation and the cold times were horrendous, then told us at the end what a terrible threat Global Warming is!

      WTF?!?

      Posted by Dave S. on 2007 04 24 at 01:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ernest . . . both.

      I claim sleep deprivation and I am sticking to that excuse for the next six months!

      Posted by Razor on 2007 04 24 at 01:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #75 Dave S.

      It’s a head-scratcher, ain’t it? Almost as if AGW were some crackpot religion – with the Goracle as its fearless leader. Hmm…

      Congrats to Mr and Mrs Razor!

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 24 at 01:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Onya Raze.

      Parenthood is the best thing in the world – and the worst, all at the same time. But one thing for sure, parents are the ultimate winners of this big biological contest! Mwahahaha.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 24 at 01:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. #51:

      I thought it’s been widely accepted for a very long time that there was a flooding event starting in Montana due to the glacial dam on a truly massive lake failing all at once.  It completely scoured Utah, or something.

      The point of the show wasn’t that they’d made any earth-shattering discoveries about the mechanism itself, but that they found evidence that such a flooding had happened in that specific place, i.e. Asia Minor. Certainly there have been similar events elsewhere, which wasn’t disputed in the show.

      Posted by PW on 2007 04 24 at 01:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. #43- even Ecopests know the boiling frog theory is pure hokum*, like most of the rest of the incontestible evidence produced to support the daffy theory of anthropomorphic climate fiddling.

      As more comes out revealing the mammoth costs involved in futile attempts to interfere with weather patterns, and the stridency of advocates increases the more people switch off- I know a few acquiantances who’ve changed view just in the last few weeks- and lets face it, virtually any cause that’s promoted by the likes of whiffy hippies, failed politicians, airhead b-list celebrities and tone deaf “musicians” is doomed to dissapear up its orifice of irrelevance.

      *Except in France, where it’s known as boullion.

      Posted by Habib on 2007 04 24 at 01:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70.  Well done, that team!

      Posted by Olrence on 2007 04 24 at 02:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. wd razer – i must admit to some smugness with how quickly Centrelink processed our $4K into the bank account.  We even received a telephone call from them when they mucked up.  post a picture!

      my daughter will be indoctrinated – by me, and not some lefty leaning teacher.  What gives them the right to teach this religion?

      Posted by peter m on 2007 04 24 at 02:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. This propaganda does sink in for susceptible types. We’re seeing the result in Australia: the SOSE generation, now in power as politicians, refuse to build dams because dams are bad and water is for rivers. We can’t mine or process uranium because nuclear was taught as being really bad in the 70s. In fact most of our infrastructure problems can be slated home to leftist propaganda taught in schools in the 70s.

      At least the worm is starting to turn.  SOSE is now thoroughly discredited and being thrown out. The national curriculum is reverting to to geography, history, and economics.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 04 24 at 02:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. #64 Spiny…

      Could have been this bloke

      Then again it could have been this bloke

      It’s confusing actually – moonbats all look the same!

      Posted by Wand on 2007 04 24 at 03:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. Up to US50,000 to give a doom is nigh speech. It;s taken me 11 years of trucking (i.e. actual work, producing actual results) to save 100,000. It just hit me all of a sudden Flannery, I hate your fucking guts.

      Posted by dean martin on 2007 04 24 at 04:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83 Walter, I was educated in the 40s.
      WTF is SOSE and how is it pronounced?
      Whatever it is, if you’re glad it’s finished, so am I.

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 04 24 at 04:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. #53. Been there, done that, and much hilarity ensued.

      Of course, I don’t think the envirotards would appreciate such wanton waste of water.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 24 at 04:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. Skeets – Studies of Society and Environment

      click on my link at #55, or just click this SOSE link

      Posted by kae on 2007 04 24 at 04:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. comfortable and relaxed:

      Environmentalist Tim Flannery munches on a club sandwich in a suburban Sydney shopping mall and casually begins predicting Armageddon.

      How could anyone vote for this guy as Australian of the Year?
      So, he’s into terrorizing kiddies – way to go, all you guys who vote for this monster.

      Is there any award the leftists haven’t totally screwed up yet?
      These days, when I think of an award ceremony , I think of a Stone of Shame™, to be lugged about by the unfortunate recipient for the rest of his/her natural life.

      What a crock.

      Posted by Mike_W on 2007 04 24 at 04:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. Here’s another way to do our bit for the environment and help save on toilet paper: like the Indonesians, the nail on the little finger of the left hand should be kept long and uncut. It proves an excellent tool to get out that last obstinate grain of rice, that you haven’t been able to wash away.

      Next week: how to save precious water by washing your hands less.

      Posted by Big Arnie on 2007 04 24 at 06:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70 Razor, congratulations to you and Mrs Razor. All the best with Razor Junior.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 04 24 at 06:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. Scientist and environmentalist Tim Flannery says he has considered handing back his Australian of the Year award due to Prime Minister John Howard’s climate change policies.

      Speaking at Melbourne’s RMIT University today, Dr Flannery said he was struggling to reconcile his role as Australian of the Year with his views on climate change.

      Go for it Timmy! Give it back – go on – give it baaack!!

      Here.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 04 24 at 07:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. It seems to me that this could be a good way to extract some of that lunch money or allowance in these kids’ pockets.  If PACO Industries hasn’t already thought up a plan, I think I will.

      Hmmm.  Global warming bubble gum cards perhaps?

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 04 24 at 07:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. Environmentalist Tim Flannery munches on a club sandwich in a suburban Sydney shopping mall and casually begins predicting Armageddon.

      Before putting on his sandwich board and clubbing all those nearby with his terrrifying visions. The End of the world is nigh.

      Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 24 at 09:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hurray for SOSE disappearing into the ash heap of history.

      I’ve never though highly of it as a notion, as it inevitably involves trying to fit history, geography, social studies and civics into one slough of despond.
      As a chalky, I reckon this shift back is the right step.

      Congrats to the new parents. I’m not quite sure where babies come from, but a lot of people seem to like them.

      As usual, fie and shame on those scaring children for their causes.

      Posted by Simon Darkshade on 2007 04 24 at 10:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. I am sick to death of this. I have a little brother and a nephew to worry about already, and now I have to think about whether their teachers will be trying to indoctrinate them into the Cult of Global Warming?

      ‘Scuse me a minute. I think my clue-by-four and I need to go have a chat with Mr. Gore . . .

      And congrats to the Razors! At least there’s one more child in no danger of growing up moonbat.

      Posted by Tungsten Monk on 2007 04 24 at 11:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70:  Congratulations, Razor.  I hope your children grow up happy and healthy and able to spit in the eyes of these idiots.

      Being a child of the 50’s, I remember fondly diving under my desk to avoid nuclear annihilation.  I look back with pride in surviving all of the “disasters” that have plagued my life that never EVER HAPPENED, YOU MORONS!  Ah, er, sorry about that last part.

      I did have an educational chat with my two oldest grandsons and told them that gerbil worming was caused by that big yellow ball in the sky and that people who told them otherwise were to be ignored and/or ridiculed.

      I then reeled off all of the aforementioned disasters and that none of them came true and how I looked forward to the destruction of the earth on December 23, 2012 (the Mayan calendar disaster, coming to an earth near you!).

      They laughed, and I was satisfied that I had gotten my point across.

      Elizabeth
      Imperial Keeper

      Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 04 24 at 01:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. #38 I thought it’s been widely accepted for a very long time that there was a flooding event starting in Montana due to the glacial dam on a truly massive lake failing all at once.  It completely scoured Utah, or something.

      Synova, PW is correct in #79, but the event that you refer to is known as Glacial Lake Missoula.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 04 24 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Congratulations, Razor!  Here, have a virtual cigar on me!

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 04 24 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. #98 Ah, thanks. 🙂

      Posted by Synova on 2007 04 24 at 09:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. And a belated congrats to Razor and especially Mrs Razor for all the hard work she’s done so far.

      Mr Razor will have fun picking up some of the slack, but he knows that all ready.

      Well done and all the best for you all.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 04 24 at 09:26 PM • permalink

 

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