Forest defenders ‘misjudged’

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Last updated on March 5th, 2018 at 02:03 pm

Goddamn warmal globing will cram the oceans with hideous coral:

New Australian research claims the world’s coral reefs could expand in size by as much as a third as oceans heat up.

The study has contradicted the standing view that increased ocean warming, a result of climate change, is killing coral reefs around the world.

The newly published research, by a team led by oceanographer from the University of NSW Dr Ben McNeil, suggests ocean warming will foster reef growth.

It’s about time we signed up to that Kabuki Treaty, or whatever it’s called. Coral is disgusting. In other happy environmental news, forestry company Gunns Limited is suing Bob Brown and other enviro-activists. Targeted conservationists say the writs are “an unprecedented attack on free speech and their right to protest”; Greens leader Bob Brown is predictably hysterical:

They can take every penny. They can take every peaceful night’s sleep. They can take every home comfort. They will never stop me campaigning against their vile destruction of Tasmania’s forests and its wildlife. Not ever. They misjudge we defenders of the forests.

He’s worried about losing “every home comfort”. Go live in a tree, Bob.

UPDATE. Martin Flanagan is deeply concerned: “If Tasmanians opposed to Gunns are silenced, all who challenge the rich and powerful in this country are vulnerable.” Good! And speaking of the crushing of dissent:

United Nations officials will not renew the contract of a New Zealand doctor who co-wrote a controversial memoir about life on the front lines of peacekeeping in the 1990s.

Andrew Thomson, who has worked for the UN for 12 years in New York, Cambodia, Haiti, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Rwanda, received a letter three weeks ago declining to renew his contract.

Posted by Tim B. on 12/16/2004 at 05:53 AM
    1. Tasmanians Bedeviled

      Posted by Jim Treacher on 2004 12 16 at 07:46 AM • permalink


    1. Frickin’ global warming totally ruins the slopes here in Pennsylvania, and I say outlaw it right now. Hell, that ice age that’s waiting in the wings is guaranteed to bring fresh powder…

      Posted by William Young on 2004 12 16 at 08:12 AM • permalink


    1. “They misjudged we”? Obviously a college graduate.

      Posted by Ken Summers on 2004 12 16 at 08:22 AM • permalink


    1. I was going to post this in the earlier global warming post, but here will do.

      See what Michael Crichton has to say …

      Posted by Ian on 2004 12 16 at 08:36 AM • permalink


    1. Yesterday Brown was saying that this legal action was offensive to his notion of free speech. Tell that to the judge, Bob. Maybe he will hit you with contempt of court, just to top off the damages.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2004 12 16 at 08:42 AM • permalink


    1. On the topic of Bob Brown and the old growth forsts in Tasmania, can someone put up a good link to some scientific account of the situation. This would point out that the old trees have about forty years to live and as long as the canopy remains intact the seeds that fall to the ground cannot germinate. They need a good oldfashioned forest fire or they need to be cut down so that a new forest can grow, otherwise in forty years they will die and be replaced by some other species. In Western Australia the government claims its policy of reduced logging has saved the old growth but according to Peter Walsh, a retired Labor senator and farmer, the publicity shots were taken on private land where the old trees were cut down a generation ago and the “old growth” forest is actually a new growth of the same species.

      Posted by Rafe on 2004 12 16 at 08:43 AM • permalink


    1. The following link claims that the earth has twice been warmer than today. In the first (about 1000 BC) the earth was some 4 degrees F warmer; the second 800AD-1200AD was “considerably warmer” (whatever that is) than today – and that people prospered. and read somewhere that we probably are around the end of the latest warming up before slowly starting the next ice age.

      Posted by jorgen on 2004 12 16 at 08:55 AM • permalink


    1. I’m confused.  Is global warming supposed to cause warm coral-infested oceans or Statue-of-Liberty-frozen-in-ice oceans?  I’m having trouble keeping my doomsday scenarios straight.

      Posted by Randal Robinson on 2004 12 16 at 08:56 AM • permalink


    1. And another thing – as far as these parallel universe characters are concerned, legal action is ok if you are enforcing their notion of good behaviour, or trying to embarrass the government in the International Court of Justice, or undermining the defence force with vexatious charges about slapping or other wise mistreating scumbags. However, legal action against those seeking to ruin a legitimate business and workers’ livelihoods is quickly tagged as some sort of gouge with a nasty USA flavour.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2004 12 16 at 08:57 AM • permalink


    1. “Oh no, the coral reefs are going to die out! Oh no, the coral reefs are going to spread like cancer!”

      There is just no pleasing some people.

      Posted by Vasco on 2004 12 16 at 09:17 AM • permalink


    1. “They misjudge we defenders of the forests.”
      Collect the Defenders of the Forests ™ action dolls for Christmas giving.

      Posted by bc on 2004 12 16 at 09:19 AM • permalink


    1. I want it to get warmer.  I’ve got a piece of land two hundred yards from the water right now.  It’ll be beachfront if these losers are right.

      Posted by murph on 2004 12 16 at 10:03 AM • permalink


    1. It’s reassuring to know that perfessers down under there are just as clueless as perfessers up above here.

      Note to a previous poster: I don’t think putting white stuff on your face and mincing around a stage wearing those high Japanese sandals while fluttering your fan will cool things off enough to stop global warming.  In fact, all that fluttering might fan the forest fires caused either by not back burning the under brush enough or over back burning the underbrush.  I can never remember which one is the current politically correct position.

      Meanwhile the climate like the coral will grow or die or stay the same or heat up or cool off according to music of the sphere and we moron humans can’t do anything to stop it or anything to start it.

      I hope I’m not being too technical for those of you who are not climatologists.

      Posted by blerp on 2004 12 16 at 10:32 AM • permalink


    1. what’s the Tree Fairy� on about now ? I don’t think anyone is arguing about his right to free speech. The point is I don’t think anyone gives a shit what he says anymore….

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2004 12 16 at 10:41 AM • permalink


    1. I saw Bobs protestors on the news last night. Including the hard left supporters. You know… the ones who support Castro’s marxist tyrrany.

      I guess some people deserve free speech while others dont.

      Posted by Paul Smith on 2004 12 16 at 10:46 AM • permalink


    1. Saw The Day After Tomorrow the day before yesterday, Randal. V. good film, excellent special effects, etc.

      And the overt environmentalist moralising put in the mouth of the Vice-President figure at the end of the film had me guffawing out loud.

      Posted by TimT on 2004 12 16 at 10:55 AM • permalink


    1. I’m never understood why those of a criminal bent bother with armed robbery and drug importation. Green collar crime is so much safer and rewarding! Get into a marine science course at Macquarie Uni or wherever, cut-and-paste your thesis with a few pronoun changes), and it’s a cakewalk into GBRMPA, or the Institute of Marine Science at Townsville. We see their ‘research vessels’ often, whilst fishing off Cooktown: music blaring from the onboard speakers as the ‘researchers’ have a swim while the steaks barbecue, in the lee of Hope Island. If ‘research funds’ ever run low, the alarm goes up about coral bleaching, dugongs, cane farm runoff, or that ol’ standby, the crown of thorns starfish. It’s been a great lurk during David Kemp’s tenure as Enviro Minister, the greenies had him dancing on a string.

      Posted by Byron_the_Aussie on 2004 12 16 at 10:59 AM • permalink


    1. There’s no Brown love for Gay.

      Posted by Pig Head Sucker on 2004 12 16 at 11:46 AM • permalink


    1. Bob Brown’s sounding a bit Churchillian:

      (grasping coat lapel, other arm upraised),

      “They can take ever home comfort

      They can take every night’s sleep

      They will never stop me…

      No, not ever “.

      Sounds familiar:

      “We will fight them on the beaches

      We will fight them in the streets

      We shall never surrender”.

      Posted by roxylady on 2004 12 16 at 02:30 PM • permalink


    1. What an educational site this is. I now know that global warming/ocean warming will either kill all the coral reefs….or turn them into an out of control monster bent on global destruction. If it’s the latter, would someone near the ocean let me know when they come ashore? I’d like to spend the last few hours with my family.

      Posted by rinardman on 2004 12 16 at 03:07 PM • permalink


    1. Rinardman, it’ll be like The Day of the Triffids.

      Posted by roxylady on 2004 12 16 at 03:19 PM • permalink


    1. Or, The Day After The 21st Century

      Posted by rinardman on 2004 12 16 at 03:27 PM • permalink


    1. “They misjudge we,” do they?

      And I’ll bite… the frontlines of peacekeeping � New York?  When was this, the Mayor Beame administration?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2004 12 16 at 03:40 PM • permalink


    1. Maybe we’re all going to drown in a massive spurt of coral spawn!

      Posted by murph on 2004 12 16 at 07:00 PM • permalink


    1. Byron

      Green collar crime is so much safer and rewarding!

      Yep, without a crisis, the enviro-pimps dont have any tricks to serve.

      Note: As the oceans warm, their capacity for CO2 retention increases, increasing the likeley hood of global-cooling.

      The sky is falling…or maybe its ascending.

      Take your pick.

      Posted by Thomas on 2004 12 16 at 07:13 PM • permalink


    1. Thomas,

      There are a number of significant negative feedback mechanisms in the earth’s atmosphere that may come into play, which are largely ignored by the climate models pushed by greenies.

      As I understand the current climate models that are driving this sillyness, don’t take into account the most important greenhouse gas of all – water vapour.  If water temparures rise in the oceans one would expect increased evaporation and therefore higher cloud formation .  Increased cloud cover changes the earth’s albedo, in this case the increased cloud cover would reflect more of the suns energy back out to space.  Thus resulting in a cooling effect.

      Posted by Antipodean on 2004 12 16 at 07:32 PM • permalink


    1. Antipodean

      And so it goes.

      Leftys should recognize a power-grab, when they see one.

      Posted by Thomas on 2004 12 16 at 07:42 PM • permalink


    1. Antipodean – thanks for the tip on albedo. Sent me to the Macquarie Dictionary, where all sorts of “alb” words reside.
      I suspect that Greenies had controlling mums and just can’t help themselves. They will do anything to get their way – chain themselves to any object, obstruct any process, intervene in any activity.
      They need something more worthwhile to do. As my dear friend Maxwell Smart used to say, if only they would use their restless interventionism for Good!

      Posted by blogstrop on 2004 12 16 at 10:32 PM • permalink


    1. Too right, Tim. If the coral reefs start expanding, greenies will start screaming how the ugly coral is destroying bare rock outcrops of great natural beauty and geological interest which might contain a cure for AIDS, but which they have never actually seen or had any previous interest in. They will talk about how coral spawns can cause fatal allergic reactions in certain hyper-sensitive species of man-eating jellyfish, possibly disrupting their ecosystem and leaving them endangered. And if American scientists discover a non-CO2 producing energy source cheaper than fossil fuels that sends the arabs bankrupt, greenies will scream that global warming was a racist Bushitler hoax and that petroleum is the cleanest energy source. Loony lefties are as predictable as they are inconsistent.

      Posted by Jim Geones on 2004 12 17 at 01:22 AM • permalink


    1. It’s about time we signed up to that Kabuki Treaty, or whatever it’s called.

      I thought that was the Karoke Treaty?

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2004 12 17 at 02:48 AM • permalink


    1. Pollution is blocking sunlight, cooling the Earth into an Ice Age, and we’re going to freeze to death. No, wait, it’s warming the Earth, and we’re going to burn to death. No, wait, it’s warming the Earth and we’re going to freeze to death. And the coral reefs are disappearing. Or growing out of control. And the polar ice cap is melting. Or we’re going to be buried under ice down to Florida. Whatever. The important thing is that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fix this. Hey, why aren’t you listening to me?

      -An Envirotard-

      Posted by Dave S. on 2004 12 17 at 06:33 AM • permalink


    1. Hey, coral makes great jewelry!  Go, coral!

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2004 12 17 at 06:34 AM • permalink


  1. Rachel Carson didn’t hear the pretty birds singing one year, and now millions of African kids die who wouldn’t have to. I guess if you’re an environmentalist, that’s a good thing.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2004 12 17 at 06:35 AM • permalink