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Serial exaggerator Tim Flannery – last year he claimed that “one summer, towards the end of this century, there will be no more polar ice or polar bears” – is outed by a supporter:
Flannery is attempting to balance out the argument. I’ve actually had this discussion with him personally (ex-employee of the SA Museum). He believes he needs to go over the top to counter-act the inaction by the federal government.
As Mark Steyn asks: “If ‘global warming’ is real and if man is responsible, why then do so many ‘experts’ need to rely on obviously fraudulent data?”
- Sorry Tim (Flannery) going over the top will not do any good in the long term. You guys have been over the top before and you need to remember the fable about the little boy who called “wolf!”. It will work for a while but eventually people will get bored and stop taking you seriously. And the sooner the better.Posted by Rafe on 2007 03 03 at 11:31 PM • permalink
- The problem with people who feel they need to go over the top is that they are destroying not only their own credibility (if they have any at all), but also the credibility of serious people who make serious efforts to produce cleaner air and water, and to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. Environmentalists who do good, responsible work get lumped in with environazis who are shrieking and gibbering like monkeys.
People like Tim Flannery and Al Gore should be ashamed of themselves.
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“If ‘global warming’ is real and if man is responsible, why then do so many ‘experts’ need to rely on obviously fraudulent data?”
Umm..because it works with those predisposed to be useful idiots? Examples: Marxist/Stalinist, Nazis, Antisemites, Arabists, Multicultys and the long tradtion of climate doomists.
- One summer, at band camp, there was this really neat polar bear…Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 03 04 at 12:22 AM • permalink
- “If ‘global warming’ is real and if man is responsible, why then do so many ‘experts’ need to rely on obviously fraudulent data?”
Excellent question, which is exactly why I don’t believe it. The data itself is probably quite accurate, but Flannery, Gore et al massage it to make it say things it really doesn’t.
Apparently children are so terrorised by all this stupid hype that they can’t get to sleep at night, and are suffering depression. It is time, in fact long overdue time, that all this nonsense was brought to heel, and those responsible were brought to account.
Posted by DropDeadUgly on 2007 03 04 at 12:27 AM • permalink
- Proof at last that Martian ice-cap melting really is all our fault! Man, that wrath of Gaia really is something…Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 03 04 at 12:34 AM • permalink
As Mark Steyn asks: “If ‘global warming’ is real and if man is responsible, why then do so many ‘experts’ need to rely on obviously fraudulent data?”
Because the actual data is dull, dry, inconclusive and unimpressive. WIthout over-the-top hysterical rants, no one would pay them any attention. It has been this way since the beginning of the environmentalist movement, decades ago. Dr. Paul Ehrlich is a prime example: why that old fool has any credibility left is a complete mystery.
It is much the same phenomenon as the Left-wing bloggers and their commenters being 40 times more likely to resort to obscenity as their right-wing counterparts. Gotta get the message out, you see? (Well, that, and a fair degree of emotional and intellectual immaturity…)
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 03 04 at 12:42 AM • permalink
- I first noticed this tendency to exaggerate in a few isolated cases affecting people from Pacific Island nations, and at the time, nobody seemed to care. But now it has spread to the Australian of the Year, Tim Flannery, meaning the debate is over.
Now this exaggeration trend is likely, no, is much, much worse than even exaggeration experts are saying.
Nobody has ever disagreed with the exaggeration experts, because they are the one true experts who are paid nothing and have no vested interests – and the ones that did disagree have been put to death, and it was more than they deserved. By God if I find their blighted offspring in my neighbourhood I will scratch them to death with the bloodied claw of a starved polar bear, see if I don’t.
Soon exaggerration is likely to, no will affect many hundreds of billions of people around the planet, and possibly, no, certainly, into the galaxy and surrounding universe, some of them not even people – and nobody disagrees with this (do you unbelievers? Why not leave your name and address if you do!!!) – other universes too numerous to enumerate.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 03 04 at 12:55 AM • permalink
Apparently children are so terrorised by all this stupid hype
yeah I read that recently too (can’t find link right now). Across the world in thousands of classrooms, teachers are scaring the bejesus out of wide-eyed kids, who are then spending sleepless nights worrying about the coming catastrophe.
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 03 04 at 01:56 AM • permalink
- For those of you who are interested, what looks like being a strong La Nina has developed over the last couple of weeks.
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
Of course this will completely ignored as La Nina’s are when heat distribution from the tropics lessens and as a result temperate latitudes cool.
- #13 eeeeexxxxcellent. Now we only need to get rid of that cold water off the east coast of Australia for the drought to break. Americans might call that image a La Nina event, cos there is all this cold water on their side of the pond, but for us to really believe, believe, I tells ya, we need some warm water over here to break the drought (although, of course, then we will get cyclones/coral bleaching and other examples of global warmening).
- Nerve-racking, that’s what it is. It’s the perfect storm that leaps right up out of the teacup and shatters your platters. Gaia, have mercy! I have no idea how people are surviving the winter these days in Snow York, but we’re only in the first few days of autumn and already I’m dreading the onset of winter here in Blizzydney.
Damn you, Tim Flannery!
- #13: saw an enviro-moonbat being interviewed at a ‘protest’ a couple of weeks ago, and he expressed his fear that the drought might soon break, because this would take people’s minds off global warming. In other words, he’s afraid that when the problem is shown to be a delusion, there’s a risk people will stop believing in it.
- It stands to reason that if global warming/the drought is caused by John Howard, then the end of the drought has also been engineered by the PM.
This is why our enviro friends are hoping the end of the drought won’t happen, especially in an election year.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 03 04 at 03:01 AM • permalink
- I visited a cousin’s rural property just outside Canberra last week, which was burned out in the 2003 bushfires. During the past two months they’ve had the best rain in years, their dams and tanks are full and the place is an absolute picture of green. While we were there the place was again drenched with torrential rain. This is typical la Nina weather, and not something the GW alarmists wish to hear.
- #19 well it’s not looking good for the end of the drought. We had Cyclone Odette kinda sorta generally heading towards the central Queensland Coast, which frankly, is just what we need. But the pathetic thing just fizzled out 800 km away this afternoon. Obviously never heard that cyclones will get badderer because of global warming. Or is it the cool aid?
- Environmentalists who do good, responsible work get lumped in with environazis who are shrieking and gibbering like monkeys.
Amen. The environmental movement will eventually find itself set back by decades due to its willing association with charlatans like Gore, though I suspect ol’ Al is just a symptom…it’s pretty clear that the nutcase wing has taken over the enviro movement, much like they’ve done to almost all nominally left-of-center ideas in the last couple of decades after the old rallying point (communism) started losing its luster.
- Kinda like when the head of Amnesty International USA admitted on national television that AI hypes and exaggerates American human rights violations, like Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, because that’s what best fuels its massive fundraising machine. AI reports haven’t been much of an issue since then. What, these people think we’ve never heard the story of the boy who cried “wolf”?Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 03 04 at 02:49 PM • permalink
- Al Gore’s Nazi analogies make me happy, because it’s just another reason he’ll never be president.Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 03 05 at 07:56 AM • permalink
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