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Al Gore’s Chilean sea bass – mentioned previously here and here – turns out to have been sustainable, reports the UK Telegraph:
Al Gore, the world’s most high profile green campaigner, was at the centre of an embarrassing row yesterday after the serving of a rare fish at his daughter’s Beverly Hills wedding …
But the fish enjoyed by the Gores were not endangered or illegally caught.
Rather, the restaurant later confirmed, they had come from one of the world’s few well-managed, sustainable populations of toothfish, and caught and documented in compliance with Marine Stewardship Council regulations. The Gores’ spokesman, Kalee Kreider, admitted that the fish has been on the menu, but said: “The Gores absolutely agree with this humane society and the rest of the environmental community about illegally caught Chilean sea bass …
“The really important thing is that people become more aware of this issue.”
Al has increased awareness of a rare fish by eating one. It’s a win/win!
- Gore got a “Get Our of Jail Free” card.Posted by walterplinge on 2007 07 19 at 11:22 PM • permalink
- Maybe they can go here on the honeymoon. Afterall, it is sustainable.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 19 at 11:24 PM • permalink
- Obviously as Gaia’s represenative on earth, Al has diplomatic immunity. You’ll find him later today doing loop the loops in a 747 while simultaneously sucking the roe out of a sturgeon.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 19 at 11:38 PM • permalink
- Al has raised awareness that he has the lowest IQ of any politician this side of Ted Kennedy. Other than that, he hasn’t done anything worth a damn in his life. He is the human embodyment of mediocrity: Son of a Senator born with a silver entitlement dowel up his ass.
As with all lib-tards, his patron saint is the philosopher Mediocrates.
What a waste of human protoplasm he is.
- So this fish is endangered everywhere except where it isn’t?Posted by blandwagon on 2007 07 19 at 11:58 PM • permalink
- So. Who wants to know about the MSC? Would it surprise you to know that they’re a bunch of Euroweenies? Because only sophisticated Euros know how to fish “sustainably”.
From their Annual Report:
“The MSC has received further backing from
governments and international policy makers.
In June 2005 a Memorandum of
Understanding was signed with Vietnam to
promote sustainable fishing and identify
fisheries suitable for assessment. In Australia,
the government announced that if a fishery
meets the MSC standard, it can use MSC
certification to help meet export requirements,
thus saving the fishery time and money. The
MSC participated in EU consultations over
the European Commission’s debate on fishery
eco-labelling and Germany’s Ministry for the
Environment hosted a national seminar to
promote sustainable fishing in which the MSC
took centre stage. In the UK, two new
government reports Securing the Benefits
and Double Dividends restated the UK’s
support for independent certification of
sustainable fisheries and the use of eco-labels
in school meals.”Looky there. If you want to do business in parlimentary republics, you’ve basically got to get a MSC stamp of approval. Feh.
- The fish that Gore ate is no longer endangered.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 20 at 12:06 AM • permalink
- I mean, that individual fish.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 20 at 12:08 AM • permalink
- A little bit of humour:
I regret I must advise the world of a new and major threat to human survival, namely GLOBAL RUSTING. Let me explain: Since the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1200 BC), humans have been increasingly converting harmless iron ore into dangerous iron and steel.
Both iron and steel have a high propensity to rust – a process which takes oxygen out of the atmosphere. If this is allowed to continue unabated, it is only a matter of time before oxygen levels are depleted to levels where we, and all other animals, will suffocate.
We must act now! I estimate that failure to act will result in the extinction of all animal life by 2050 or at the latest, by 3050, or possibly by 4050. I propose four programs be immediately instituted to save us from this catastrophe:
1. A surcharge should be placed on all commodities packaged in steel. For instance a 10 cents levy on each can of baked beans sold, would mean little to the consumer but the money raised could be directed into finding new metallic elements with the same desirable properties of strength and flexibility as possessed by iron and steel.
2. People should immediately slow down so that they breathe less often and so consume less oxygen. This, of course, would mean a horizontal lifestyle without work, exercise, sex or other excitements which, in turn, would assist in mitigating both the explosion of the human population and the advance of industrial technology – two other important goals of we environmentalists.
3. Since salt air accelerates rusting, all people living near the coast must move at least 20 kilometres inland.
4. I intend to set up my own oxygen trading company. Shareholders would be invited to send money. For each dollar received, my colleagues and I would promise to plant a grass seed. As the grass grows, photosynthesis will occur and fresh oxygen will be supplied to the atmosphere. Each shareholder would receive a certificate bearing a photograph of his or her sprouting grass seed(s).
I do not expect any kudos from this announcement. Doubtless there will be sceptics who will claim that human activity is not causing oxygen depletion. A pox on them I say.Dr O. B. Noxious (nom de plume)
- And Al checked this when?? Before or after he ate it?
You cant claim to be a saint and only sin a little bit.
Id like to start a turtle farm here in NW Australia. The meat is nice, the demand high and wild populations are under stress from pirate fishing. My chances of this being approved is exactly nil. Because its not, “nice”, and as Im not Aboriginal, “traditional”.
But from an ecological standpoint it would make sense, I want more stock, I want poachers cracked down on, and the demand for the meat will be met from farmed stocks.
Conservation is a breeze when you farm animals to eat!Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 20 at 12:36 AM • permalink
- I wonder if that was just luck on Gore’s part that it was from ‘one of the world’s few well-managed, sustainable populations of toothfish.’ Or maybe it wasn’t and they hope no-one checks up on the documentation. You would think if they knew about it they would have known that mentioning the menu would have created some concern.
- The luvvies would have gone batshit insane had BusHitler or HoWARd treated their friends and families to these fish regardless of how “well-managed” or “sustainable” the source populatioin. Since it’s His High Coldiness Algor chowing down on the finny SOBs, though, it’s all good.Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 07 20 at 12:42 AM • permalink
- Hang on fish farming? Isn’t that a lot like battery hens or force feeding calves so they can become veal?
Surely Big Al’s moonbat friends will pitch a fit about this too.
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 20 at 12:44 AM • permalink
- #18- Good plan. you could add to the paranoia and panic by publicising the toxicity of oxygen, as well as its contribution to CO2 and its ability to cause combustion to flare- a dangerous element, and people who go along with this sort of thing should be encouraged to remove it from their lifestyles.
- Break out the harpoons me matey’s. It’s open season!Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 12:47 AM • permalink
- Off topic but a dropkick from the same stable…
An Emmy ? Do they give them out for F Wit of the Year ?
Toni Collete (our non Aussie bloggers collectively mutter who such is her clout/worldwide fame)..My feedback below…Possibly it may not be quite what the showbiz writers want..but I’m sure many in here would agree…
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Toni Collette should get a stack of nominations.
The category ? The least knowledgeable person who considers it her job to lecture on issues she has not the faintest idea about. Toni would make a wonderful export and it would be to the benefit of our country for sure…….but unfortunately I doubt any other country would accept her.
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- “Populatioin” – proof that I need to get offline and go to bed before 2 AM for a change. Argh.
For his next act, Al is going to give Tipper a full-length polar-bear-fur coat for Christmas. It’ll be OK by the moonbats, though, as it’ll be from a captive bear that they’ll claim is enduring Horrible Psychological Torture and Deprivation in the ursine equivalent of Gitmo. Poor Knut.
Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 07 20 at 12:52 AM • permalink
- #27- Given the rigour with which the fiscal fiend has delved into some offshore shenanigans of manager to the stars Glenn Wheatley, I wonder how long it’ll be before an audir of our Toni’s offshore earnings is performed? As an australian resident she’s subject to income tax on all her overseas earnings, and I for one would be heartbroken and disillusioned if it was found she was squirreling away her filthy foreign lucre and not fully contributing to society, especially to the collosal upcoming cost of battling global climate fluctuation; why that would smack of hypocrisy, something which should never taint the sainted image of the truly talented and altruistic- they are after all clearly our betters*.
*Shit, if she does get sprung by the Deputy Commissioner for having a bit of a fiddle we should have a whip-‘round and some chook raffles to cover the outstanding amount, after all she does so much for us, without being asked and with no expectation of reward or recognition. I’ll bet she even gives her swag of Emmys to orphans, waifs and foundlings.
- When I looked up the fish (having no clue what a Chilean Sea Bass was) it seemed they aren’t endangered, exactly, but the threat of overfishing is very very high. So there are rules. Mostly likely any Chilean Sea Bass sold at a regular market in the US is going to have papers showing it was legally caught by those with permission to catch certain amounts.
There really wasn’t much chance these were illegal toothfish.
But the problem with overfishing is a problem of *demand* and even legal fish support greater demand and support the illegal fishing in a round-about way.
- The wedding was greener than we thought!Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 02:00 AM • permalink
- Ok, back to this fish business. It seems if you are in the Gore camp you can say any kind of mindless shit, so long as it sounds good. For example:
Reporter: Ah, Mr. Gore, could you please comment about your having consumed sea bass en masse (as opposed to wrasse) at your daughters’ wedding?
Gore: Why thank you for that question. The fish concerned are part of a semi autonomous initiative that concerns the propogation of indigenous aquaculture in a natural environment.
The fish voted as to which one’s wanted to be caught, see it was both democratic and sustainable.
Reporter: Erm, how was it ‘sustainable’
Gore: Because I said so and it sounds good.
Reporter: Uh, OK.
- THE FARMING:
Organic farming of Sea Bass and Bream is similar to organic salmon or trout farming, and operates on the same principles. Amongst other things, this includes:Feed
The feed is purely natural. No land-animal products or by-products are used in the feed, which is composed of :Fish meal made from sustainable sources – wild-fish, managed by quotas to preserve natural resources; their quality is also controlled and certified organic. This French organic requirement differs from the UK organic feed controls, where bi-products of the fish industry are exclusively used as fish meal.
Certified organic cereals and plants, which are guaranteed to be free of any genetically modified organisms.
Vitamins and minerals .
- #37- She maintains two residences in australia and spends at least six months of the year here, so I’d say she’d be regarded as an Australian resident for tax purposes; I’d say most shoots would be less than 91 days duration as well, so even if her fee is taxed in the US it’s still assessable here, unless it’s been salted into a trust or some other avoidance scheme. Let’s face it, if she doesn’t have a few scams going she’s a bigger dolt than I had her figured for- while most of these yahoos can be overwhelming fuckwits when it comes to grandstanding, hectoring and blatant hypocrisy they’ve usually got enough native cunning to hang on to as much disposable income as their clammy mitts can clutch.
It seems the gloves are off now for the “entertainment industry”, so Tones and other big offshore earners would be prime targets I’d guess.
- Speaking of tax avoidance – Isn’t it nice to know that you’ll receive 15 months in the big house for salting away your hard earned, but only 9 months for storing pics of kiddies in compromising positions.
The moral lesson: If you’re running a kiddie porn website, the biggest crime is not declaring your ill gotten gain.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 02:26 AM • permalink
- The one fish you don’t want to eat is basa, a type of freshwater catfish farmed in Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and southern China. I suppose you could say they’re raised organically because they’re fed on shit. Human, pig, chook poo plus rice husks and various undisclosed additives. Hepatitis is the least of your worries. Asian farmed prawns are the same, but with a few extra toxins. Once you see the farms I can guarantee you won’t eat the fish.
- #51
It was no doubt submitted on his behalf that he would do time much harder than others, but I doubt that courts take much notice of that sort of thing, even though the Judge might mouth some consideration on passing sentence.The law and the courts do draw a distinction between storing/viewing images and actually doing the depraved acts, which is fair enough.
The rationale behind the criminalisation is that the demand for the images and therefore the behaviour depicted in them will be driven down by heavy sentences for posession of the images. I agree, but also think that the penalties for those participating in this stuff should be severe.
Without being too melodramatic, it can never really be known how many of the kids subjected to this stuff don’t survive the ordeal.
- #48, egg, Full of worse than heavy metals. Try undisclosed antibiotics, serious carcinogens. Can’t find a link, but a couple of years ago Oz quarantine people found high levels of a well recognised bowel and liver cancer precipitator in prawns from China and Thailand. They chuck all sorts of things into fish meal to accelerate growth, like happens with chooks.
My personal rule for seafood is: nothing farmed, nothing from asia, only fresh and preferably caught by my own good self or our mates who are trawlermen.
- Bugger your fish, I’m having thisfor dinner. Cooking instructions here. I might have it with a bit of garlic and some vegies.
Back on the diet!
- #52 re #51
The law and the courts do draw a distinction between storing/viewing images and actually doing the depraved acts, which is fair enough
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They shouldn’t.
There is NO DIFFERENCE between looking at kiddie porn and actually molesting children.
Where does the kiddie porn come from?My opinion and I very much stand by it.
I wouldn’t call six months or nine months enough of a “heavy sentence”.
- #54, Pickles,
Drinking at the corner bar of the fishermen’s pub here in frosty Newcastle, we get fresh prawns for $15 a kilo, lobsters for $20 a piece, oysters $7 a dozen (we have to open them). All cash under the table. Crabs I trap myself, bream I catch, also flathead and jewfish.
The fishing industry is highly regulated, but off-market prices are generally 50-60% less than retail.
- #57, kae,
Not in Australia. I was talking about China and Indochina. Nothing is regulated there in terms of food production. Mike & I were there on business a lot in 2002-2005 during the bird-flu & pig-flu scares. Almost enough to make you vegetarian, except melons and juice fruits can give you hepatitis because they’re fertilised with human faesces. Cheaper than superphosphate.
- #63 I hate that show. It’s never on my TV. Ever. Someone was here once who wanted to watch it and I said “Not on my TV”. I really don’t find it funny. A bit like lots of Australia’s crop of comedians.
#64
Ooooohhhhh. I see.
I was told when travelling in Asia to never buy anything from a roadside stall. When the fruit looks a bit shrivelled they poke holes in it and stick it in the ditch to rehydrate it.
And I know in china that crops are fertilised by neat human waste. My mum was there and one of the women on her tour was horrified when the little chinaman with his yoke over his shoulders and two attached buckets came along to the toilet where she’d just been and dipped the buckets into it and took it away to fertilise the crop.Icky.
MMM Fresh Australian Prawns. MMMMmmmmmmmmm
- kae,
Shall I share some recipes with you for kangaroo? and bunny? and wild duck (jabiru & magpie geese, actually)
Wallaby is probably the only meat that stopped our dinner guests. After they finished the meal I told them what it was. So funny. Until they threatened me with death for making them eat a cuddly little marsupial.
It’s a sweeter meat than kangaroo, but there are more roos and wallabies here than cows and sheep, so why can’t we eat them too?
- Eat nothing from Asia. It’s a motto I am trying my best to live up to. The total lack of controls, zero inspections (from either incompetence or bribery), coming from a society that places no virtue above greed means you’ll get whatever generates the most profit. Never mind that the food products are potentially lethal, it only matters that you can sell it.
I was watching a news clip the other day about this SOB in China who sells these little snack meat-dumplings. Traditionally a pork filled pastry. This jackass boils cardboard in a caustic solution, then adds pork fat and flavoring and sells them to unsuspecting customers in Shanghai. He was secretly being filmed by a guy posing as a potential wholesaler. The crook told him that they fool most people and that he doesn’t eat them himself (but why not??).
Thanks for alerting us about the Thai prawns. I’ve got a bag of them in my deep freezer.
Be back in a moment, I need to take out the trash…
- “The really important thing is that people become more aware of this issue.”
If AlGore were to use gasoline to kill weeds in the cracks of his sidewalk, it would become an awareness issue that we all should give much carefull consideration.
If I were to do it, it would be a heavy fine.
p.s…It works really well BTW.
- Al Gore, the media whore
Climate Change is his global war
He’s the Saint of Earth Over-warmed,
Smashing dissent before it’s formed.Never mind that lives in excess
He’s the King whom God has blessed
He’ll jet around and preach to you
But he won’t do what he tells you to do.We’re all gonna drown
Of that be sure
Unless we adhere
to Al’s grand cureCrush all your cars
Walk with your feet
Close all the bars
And never eat meat.Al’s bigger now
Than ever before
Bow down to Lord Gore
The Omnivore.
- I am planning a massive public awareness campaign regarding alcohol consumption this weekend.
Go you Wallabies!
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 04:21 AM • permalink
- OT: Tony Blair’s legacy outside of his support for the fight against terrorism is not too good at all (to say the least) if even half of this is true:
Delusions of Honesty
Tony Blair’s domestic legacy: corruption and the erosion of liberty.BY THEODORE DALRYMPLE
Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDTIt’s ironic that lefties in Aus like to complain about some mythical erosion of freedom under Howard’s response to terrorism, whereas in reality he is the least draconian but most practical of the Western leaders grappling with this new evil.
- Go easy on poor Theodore, TB.
Theodore Dalrymple is a nom de plume, so hopefully he will not introduce himself to you, but he is a superb writer.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 20 at 04:42 AM • permalink
- #91- Theodore Dalrymple’s real name is Anthony Daniels. He’s one of the most brilliant writers and sociologists of our times. Read his stuff and you’ll be way fuckin’ impressed.
Unlike him, I’m an ucouth lager lout.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 04:53 AM • permalink
- Theodore Dalrymple
The quotes are special.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 20 at 04:57 AM • permalink
- #56 Kae. I agree totally. It’s the same as the degenerates who commence the drug cycle. These animals should be linked with the crimes that result from their activities.
We pay for them all courtesy of our soft magistrates and our over supply of ‘social workers’ who have to be employed to justify the need for the degree.
Social work. The most useless qualification in the land. Give me my taxes back.
- The point that Kimble and the International Humane Society were making is that the eating of all Sea Bass must be avoided in order to eliminate the problem of the endangered species. Gore, obviously, doesn’t give a shit. Why should I?Posted by wronwright on 2007 07 20 at 06:32 AM • permalink
- Home from the pub, no luck with raffles, but nice two bream from a mate that we’ve just had for dinner. (the fish, not the mate, pardon the syntax)
Here’s a recipe for kangaroo or wallaby fillets, kae…
Do a beetroot thingy with fresh grated beetroot, onion, cranberry sauce, some tomato, sugar and vinegar, a whatever else sweet/sour you care to chuck in. Cook it up however you want until it’s done.
Do mashed potato & parsnip with sour cream.Sear skippy meat in light oil for 2-3mins a side. Rest for 5 mins.
Serve on a warm plate. Luvverly.
- Folks, DONT PANIC Philip Adams assures me it was a plastic Chilean sea bass.
All is ok.
Posted by curious george on 2007 07 20 at 08:32 AM • permalink
Al has increased awareness of a rare fish by eating one. It’s a win/win!
It’s Biblical, man! The story of the oaf and fishes!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 20 at 10:16 AM • permalink
- “Al Gore’s Chilean sea bass – mentioned previously here and here – turns out to have been sustainable…”
Spare me. All that means is is that particular fishing enterprise limits the catch (and pays off local governments), and since other fisheries don’t, the toothfish population continues to decline (reportedly…according to what I read the toothfish has been so overfished that it in five years the population will be so depleted that it won’t be commercially viable to fish for them).
In addition, the fish have to be shipped halfway around the world, so the elite can have their delicacy…and they ain’t shipping it on clipper ships. Think of how much oil gets used to ship those fish from southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere so guys like the Gores can gobble it up at $25 a pound (after flying into Beverly Hills on their private jets).
Dining on toothfish is not enviromentally sound, and the whole issue is just another example of how much the leaders of the Church of AGW don’t practice what they preach.
Same old crap. They want us to ride buses to save baby Gaia, while they keep their limos.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 20 at 11:39 AM • permalink
- Everyone is aware that the Marine Stewardship Council is an independent, global, non-profit organization that promotes responsible fishing practices and their Board of Directors is basically big fishing CEO’s, right?
I’m not saying it’s a bad organization, that the MSC’s recommended practices aren’t good ones; or that the pressure the organization places on governments to have their fishing interests abide MSC rules might have some ulterior motives.
No, I’m not saying any of that. I’ll just suggest that to give the seal of approval to any fish farm that sells endangered fish so fat-assed former American VP’s and his above-the-law rich buddies can eat them and sleep well at night is a bit hypocritical.
- #119 “…independant, global, non profit…” meaning just another bunch of wankers who send out press releases about whatever their private little manias are about?Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 21 at 06:08 AM • permalink
- You just laid a plastic turkey bloghead.Posted by Miranda Divide on 2007 07 23 at 10:44 PM • permalink
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