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“Sounds almost like … civil war!” Or so this site recently bellowed in a fit of McGeough-like chaos enthusiasm. Others have since taken up the cry:
Palestinian police today fought gunbattles in Gaza City with a rival Hamas-led security force set up by the Islamist government in defiance of President Mahmoud Abbas.
At least four people were wounded in the first fighting between the groups – two police, one member of the Hamas force and a gunman from Mr Abbas’s Fatah movement.
Intense clashes sent terrified residents fleeing from the night-time streets of Gaza City, where tension has soared amid fears that confrontation between the forces could lead to civil war.
Well, obviously. Those in the midst of the mayhem agree:
“It seems that the civil war has begun,” said one medic, who did not want to give his name …
Even SBS news is running with the civil war line. But how to blame this on Bush?
UPDATE. Resident peacenik Addamo explains why Bush is to blame for the Hamas-Fatah conflict:
Not that difficult.
– Powell did say to Bush, you break it, you own it. Iraq is more than broken.
– It is accepted that security of an ocupied state is the responsibility of the occupying power.
– The deaths squads operating out of the Ministry of the Interior (which was set up by the US) are causing mayhem.
– Obviously the democracy idea is a shamble. So who benefits from a fragmented Iraq vs a united Iraq that is run by an Iran friendly regime?Then again, it could all be Saddam’s fault.
Poor kid is a little confused. Commenters are dealing with him in Mode Four fashion.
- “But how to blame Bush?” Have no fear, the MSM will find many ways. Example: “If only Bush had urged the US Congress to send loads of $’s directly to Hamas to pay off the Abbas-Arafat gang, there would be no fighting!” or “If the Bush-Zionist cabal would have immediately recognized the Ham-ass government as the legal source of law and order, there would now be law and order.” or “By claiming the Has-crass is a terrorist organization, Bush has encouraged it to act as a terrorist organization. If Bush had declared it to be the peaceful representative of the ROP, there would now be peace.”, etc.Posted by stats on 2006 05 19 at 08:13 AM • permalink
- Not that difficult.
– Powell did say to Bush, you break it, you own it. Iraq is more than broken.
– It is accepted that security of an ocupied state is the responsibility of the occupying power.
– The deaths squads operating out of the Ministry of the Interior (which was set up by the US) are causing mayhem.
– Obviously the democracy idea is a shamble. So who benefits from a fragmented Iraq vs a united Iraq that is run by an Iran friendly regime?Then again, it could all be Saddam’s fault.
- Anyone else here amused by the fact that the media is refusing to call open fighting between Hamas and the PLO in the streets of Gaza a civil war, while every time a terrorist blows something up in Iraq, the cry of “CIVIL WAR! AND IT’S BUSH’S FAULT!” is all you ever hear in the news?Posted by Tatterdemalian on 2006 05 19 at 08:28 AM • permalink
- ROFL! Any more evidence required on the creninous left’s auto-response of “Iraq-and-everything-is-all-Bush’s-fault” is the Addam’sFamily contribution at 2 above.
Question for the Big A (get your atlas out now): Where is Gaza City? Is it
1) Iraq
2) Iraq
3) Iraq or
4) None of the above?Question: Mahmood Abbas is President of:
1) Iraq
2) Iraq
3) Iraq or
4) None of the above?Man, I told you in another thread – when you are in a hole, stop digging!
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 19 at 08:53 AM • permalink
- Be fair, they do all look alike, don’t they? (Especially when they’re wearing balaclavas.) BTW, pop quiz: the Gaza Strip is actually the (original) territory of what nation?Posted by andycanuck on 2006 05 19 at 09:08 AM • permalink
- Have you ever clicked the “submit” button only to suddenly have a shiver of dread run from somewhere around the bottom of your spine right up to spread all over the back of your head, because somehow you know that you have just made a complete dick of yourself? If Addamo hadn’t felt it before, I bet he has now!
- Addamo logic:
– Powell did say to Bush, you break it, you own it. I was there, I heard him say it. Or it’s in print somewhere. Probably on MySpace. But he said it. He did, and you are all idiots.
– It is accepted that security of an ocupied state is the responsibility of the occupying power. And since the U.S. is the occupying power of Iraq, it makes sense that the U.S. is responsible for the entire Middle East, including Gaza and the West Bank. Come on, how big is the ME anyway? And you are all idiots.
– The deaths squads operating out of the Ministry of the Interior (which was set up by the US) are causing mayhem. Yes. Er… Well, the Hamas government wasn’t set up by the U.S., but you know what I mean. You’re still idiots.
– Obviously the democracy idea is a shamble. And I can’t stop smiling about that, you idiots.
Then again, it could all be Saddam’s fault. But it’s not, because he was a sweet, benevolent man who just liked to fly kites and build palaces. I was just being ironic, because I’m so smart. Jeez, you’re idiots.
- This is FANTASTIC news! After all, a stone-cold dead towelhead is a good towelhead. Excuse my unvarnished racism, but after reading the abominable pro-“Palestinian” agitprop on Webdiary and Antony Nazistein’s site, I have decided to throw my lot in with the “Islamophobic and Fucking Proud of It…You got a problem with that you antisemitic piece of shit” crowd.
Perhaps we should erect a site, and after every 1,000 ragheads die we sent up a firework. Either way, at least the beseiged Israelis can rest knowing that the fetid cockroaches are dousing each other with pesticide.
Allah Akbar!
- If only the eeeeeeevil Chimpy McHitlerburton had let us destroy Israel, we would not be having this conflict today!
Of course, our bombing martyr campaign to force the infidel French oppressors to end their occupation of the Cote d’Azur would be continuing.
And we are filing a protest in the UN! Ever since we liberated Cannes, all the women on the beaches have become dumpy, hairy and un-naked! WUWT?!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 19 at 09:42 AM • permalink
- 10
Have you ever clicked the “submit” button only to suddenly have a shiver of dread run from somewhere around the bottom of your spine right up to spread all over the back of your head, because somehow you know that you have just made a complete dick of yourself?
About twice a week, yeah. Okay, thrice.
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 05 19 at 10:15 AM • permalink
- Addamo’s effort was brilliant. Whatever the subject of a debate, whether it be global freezing, uranium, petrol prices, ethnoism etc, the left surely bring it around to being caused by the war in Iraq.
But at least most of them have the sense to give a little preamble before they make the inevitable linkage. But not Addamo. Picked up a few words from the post (civil war, McGeough, Bush) and busted his little pooper getting to the keyboard so he could tell us all about Iraq. What a tosser. His effort should be spread far and wide.
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 05 19 at 10:23 AM • permalink
- Dispossessed ex-Ba’athist, Democrat, whatever.
Hey, is that going to be the latest independent film sensation? “Blast It Like Fat-Ham?”
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 19 at 10:33 AM • permalink
- “But how to blame this on Bush?”
Don’t worry, honey, the treasonous bastards MSM will find a way. Or three.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2006 05 19 at 10:48 AM • permalink
- Ya know, bet Addamo has no idea why everyone’s laughing at him.
The whole episode shows the depth of his knowledge on the subjects he feels fit to lecture us on, though.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 19 at 11:09 AM • permalink
- A valid point, Geoff. I meant post-WW2 and not going much further back in time to Ancient Egypt or Ottoman days etc.Posted by andycanuck on 2006 05 19 at 11:44 AM • permalink
- Only twice a week stoop? Evidently you’re not as self-aware as one would think.Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 05 19 at 11:52 AM • permalink
- 34 paco
Have you ever actually ordered one in a bar?
Only in my younger day, when I didn’t mind my nose not being straight, after a little “exercise”….LOL.
I really think it’s a relative of a Long Island Iced Tea.
- I can see why Addamo was defending Fisk a couple of weeks ago – he was sticking up for his intellectual superior.
Seriously, that post #2 has to be the funniest damn thing I’ve read here all week. And that’s quite a feat, given all the other commenters here. (Of course, they’re being intentionally funny, but you know what I mean.)
- #36: It was the blog equivalent of taking the stage before a hostile audience and attempting to crush them with the force of one’s intellect, only to discover at the end of the performance that one’s fly was open the whole time. Most amusing.
But he’ll be back. A frenzy of highly selective googling (Bush, war criminal, Iraq, Palestine, Rumsfeld, lies: SEARCH) will no doubt “prove” that what he said about Iraq applies equally to Palestine.
- My wife, who is not a drinker, once went out with some friends during college and came home obviously impaired. I was furious. “You drove home like this?!?”
“I only had two drinks in four hours! I’m fine!”
“What did you drink?”
“Long Island Teas.”
She thought it was iced tea with a splash of vodka. When I explained to her that she put about ten shots of liquor in her 120-pound frame, she was horrified.
- The most embarassing moment of Bush’s failed presidency is undoubtedly when he put on that general’s frock coat after the Battle of Antietam and declared, “Mission accomplished!”
The Civil War dragged on another three bloody years. And we never found any evidence of Jefferson Davis’s alleged Infernal Engines of Destruction.
- Well I’m going to stick up for Addamo. You fellas are most unkind. All those countries starting with “I” and all. And keeping up with whose in whose space and all those gangs with guns with funny names that always seem to have at least one bloody hyphen in them. Naturally if you’re a typical partyline man you are gunna have a default position of blaming the US President.
That way you only have to learn one new word every four years at most to keep your ME Expert accreditation.
Yeah geoff is right, I always get confused, too…I mean…wait I mean isn’t a country…but like Italy and Iceland and Ifrance and Ispain and Iyemen…:).
Maybe he was thinking of the new Apple iPalestine and got confused.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 19 at 03:03 PM • permalink
- 33 Jorg
Only twice a week stoop? Evidently you’re not as self-aware as one would think.
Nobody is. But I compensate with my overwhelming humility, which is rightly known, far and wide, as the gold standard of humility, to which all people should aspire. Indeed I would say that my cardinal virtues, if I spoke of them at all, would be my humility and my modesty. Certainly not my memory, reasoning, or typing. And my meekness, of course, but that hardly bears mentioning. Yes humility like this is a rare thing, in these times or indeed in any times.
“How humble?” you may ask. I’ll modestly tell you. When I play air guitar, I only play the rhythm parts, that’s how self-effacing, modest and humble I am. If only more people would profit by my example.Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 05 19 at 03:29 PM • permalink
- Getting out while the getting’s good?
GAZA CITY (CNN)—European monitors at a crossing between Gaza and Egypt caught a Hamas official Friday carrying about 900,000 euros, Palestinian officials said.
That amount is worth more than a million dollars.
The Associated Press identified the official as Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri
- Well, since nobody else has piped up, I’ll offer this in answer to the Hoser’s question in #9—forgive my pedantry:
Gaza, or in Hebrew, Azza, is a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel).
In Biblical times, G-d gave this Holy Land as a gift, as an eternal covenant that can never, ever be broken, to the Children of Israel. This is clearly documented in the Deed of Trust to the land, which is the Bible.
Marking the southern border of ancient, Biblical Canaan, its original inhabitants were a group of people known as the Avvites. This distinct group of people is now extinct.
It was captured and conquered by the men of the tribe of Judah (Judges 1:18) and was included in the allotment given to that tribe (Josh. 15:47). It remained in the possession of the Canaanites until the beginning of the 12th century BCE, when it became occupied by the Philistines. It was part of the Philistine Pentapolis, the southern-most city in that league of five cities (Josh. 13:3 1 Sam. 6:17; Jer. 25.20). As part of the Philistine Pentapolis, Gaza played an important role in the story of Samson (Judges 13-16).
Just to set the factual and historical record straight, the Philistines were a Mediterranean seafaring nation that is completely extinct today. They are not one and the same people as the Arab nation and people calling themselves “Palestinians” today. These Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. The name “Palestine” and “Palestinians” evolved from the name Philistia, which was given to the area by the Roman conquerors as an insult to the Jewish people. The name has been hijacked by the Arabs to lay a false claim to a land that does not belong to them Biblically, historically, legally, morally or rightfully.
The Philistines, a distinct people, are also now extinct.
It was the only city in its area to oppose Alexander the Great during 332 BCE. Later on, it was an outpost of the Ptolemies, who were the ruling power in Egypt during the Hellenistic period, until its capture in 98 BCE by Assyria’s Antiochus III, the Seuclid king in control of an empire.
The city was subsequently attacked and reconquered by Jonathan the Hasmonean during 145 BCE (1 Macc. 11:61-62).
Pompey restored the city and Galbinus, also a Roman official, rebuilt the city (circa 57 BCE).
King Herod the Great held the city for a short time, but after his death, it came under the authority of the Roman proconsul of Syria. It flourished as a Roman city and remained a center for the Jewish community and the emerging Christian community throughout the Roman era (963 BCE through 324 CE), and continued into the Byzantine period, 324 CE through 1453 CE.
Gaza remained a centre of pilgrimages in Eretz Yisrael during the Byzantine period.
In a great battle fought near Gaza in 635 CE, the Arabs vanquished the Byzantines; the city itself fell soon afterward. It remained the seat of the governor of the Negev, as is known from the Nessana Papyri.
Then, again, there were a succession of attackers, conquerors and occupiers of Jewish Gaza.
Despite the fact that there have been many foreign occupations of Gaza, the territory belongs to the Jewish people.
There can be no honest dispute who this land belongs to Biblically, historically, legally, morally, and rightfully – the Children of Israel.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 05:02 PM • permalink
- More:
King Baldwin I of Jerusalem occupied the city, which was known in Crusader occupation times as Gadres. From the time of Baldwin III (1152 CE), it was a Templar stronghold. In 1170, it fell to Saladin. Under Mamluk occupation and rule, Gaza was capital of a district.
After the destruction of Gaza by the Crusaders, the Jewish community ceased to exist.
Nothing more was heard about Gaza until the 14th century. Meshullam of Volterra found 60 Jewish householders there during 1481 CE. All the wine of Gaza was produced by the Jews.
Gaza flourished under Ottoman rule. The Jewish community was once again flourishing and prosperous during the 16th and 17th centuries.
The Karaite Samuel ben David found a Rabbanite synagogue there in 1641 (vis Ginzei Yisrael be-St. Petersburg, ed. by J. Gurland, 1865). In the 16th century, there was a bet din and a yeshiva in Gaza.
In 1665, on the occasion of Shabbtai Zevi’s visit to Gaza, the city became a center of the messianic movement. One of his principle disciples was Nathan of Gaza.
The city of Gaza was briefly militarily occupied once again, this time by Napoleon in 1799.
In the 19th century, the city of Gaza declined. The Jews that were concentrated there were mostly barley merchants. They bartered with the Bedouins for barley, which they exported to the beer breweries of Europe.
Gaza was a Turkish stronghold during World War I. Two British attacks made on Gaza during 1916-17 failed and it was finally taken during a flanking movement by Allenby. Under British Mandatory occupation and rule, Gaza developed slowly. The last Jews living in Gaza left the town as result of the Arab anti-Jewish disturbances and massacres that took place during 1929.
In 1946, Gaza’s population was estimated at 19,500, all Muslim except for 720 Christians.
During Israel’s defensive War of Independence, when five Arab armies invaded the reestablished Jewish homeland with the intent of its annihilation, the invading Egyptian army attacked, conquered and occupied Gaza. Israel defeated its attackers and reconquered its rightful land.
The town, together with the newly created Gaza Strip, was put under Egyptian administration by the armistice agreement of 1949. The influx of Arab refugees, who were told by the Arab aggressors that they could soon return after the Jews “were driven into the sea,” later swelled the city’s population at least fourfold. Bear in mind that most of the Arabs living in Eretz Yisrael at the time only came in the middle to late 1920s to escape economic hardship and political persecution by their own people.
The 1967 census showed that 87,793 Arab inhabitants and settlers lived in Gaza City proper, while only 30,479 lived in the refugee camp created by the Arabs’ call for the annihilation of the Jewish nation-state. The latter lived within the municipal boundaries of Gaza. Of this number, 1,649 were Christians and the rest were Muslims.
Now, we can compare this with the number of Egypt’s Jews who were forcibly expelled in the “Forgotten Exodus”, whose properties were confiscated, who were brutally beaten, robbed, tortured and sometimes murdered.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 05:03 PM • permalink
- More ancient evidence to consider.
In 1965, a mosaic pavement was discovered by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities. This mosaic, dated 508/9, was uncovered on the seashore of Gaza’s harbor. Its figures include one of King David as Orpheus, dressed in Byzantine royal garments and playing the harp. The name “David” in Hebrew letters appears above it. A Greek inscription at the center of the floor, which mentions the names of two donors (Menahem and Jesse) of the mosaic to the “holy place” and the name David, testifies that a synagogue stood there.
In 1967, A. Ovadiah excavated the area and discovered a synagogue from the sixth century CE.
Archaeological evidence supports the Biblical premise of a continuous Jewish presence in Gaza, from the late Bronze Period until the Byzantine Period (circa 1500 BCE through 632 CE).
Evidence of a considerable Jewish presence in Gaza during the Talmudic period is provided also by a relief of a menorah, a shofar, a lulav and an etrog, which appears on a pillar of the Great Mosque of Gaza, along with various Hebrew and Greek inscriptions.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 05:03 PM • permalink
- Oh, I should probably add that most of the above is derived from bokks (y’all remember books, right?—but I can provideinternet sources as well.
Critical analysis (hell, just reading it) will indicate the deponent (me) is not impartial.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 05:13 PM • permalink
- The main thing to remember about Gaza, to its evelasting suffering, is that it is the only wide and flat piece of property between those invading Egypt from the north and the Eguptians invading the north. something like a very dry and fly specked Fulda Gap.Posted by Pat Patterson on 2006 05 19 at 05:20 PM • permalink
- Thank you MentalFloss for a marvelous summary.
I have just found a second-hand copy of Barbara Tuchman’s “Bible and Sword” but I think you may have saved me the trouble of reading it. What is your view on that book?
One little thing. Why can’t we Christians have our calendar back? I went along with BCE and CE when it became politically correct, but latterly I have reverted to BC and AD in protest. As part of my fight against dhimmification, I have also replaced “Seasons Greetings” with “Merry Christmas”.
- You didn’t “misread”, Addamo. You just stepped on your dick out of your own zealous idiocy.Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 05 19 at 08:03 PM • permalink
- Skeeter, the use of BCE and CE is common to many historiographical compendia (the Cambridge Ancient History is a good example), many of which deal with peoples and events involving neither “The West” or “The Middle East” where birth of The Christ has greater import.
It was never an artifact of the PC movement, having been in use since the late 19th Century.
I have read Tuchman’s “Bible and Sword”—one of her early works and hence less polished than, say “The Guns of August” or “First Salute”.
The thesis is compelling, namely that the Balfour Declaration was the scion of twin progenitors–the Christian motivation to restore the Jews to the promised land as a prerequisite to the second coming of Christ and the imperial motivation to control the vital Mediterranean commercial route to India and the Far East.
Tuchman makes it clear that, with several individual exceptions, these motivations had nothing to do with concern for the Jews but rather originated from the spiritual (vis Joseph of Aramithea and Britain) and temporal aspirations of Britain. The ebb and flow of the Britain-Palestine relationship makes for fascinating reading, covering topics such as the early Holy Land pilgrimages, the Crusades, the role of the British Navy in halting Napoleon’s conquest of Palestine and the British role in propping up the Ottoman Turks.
She focuses on British and not Arab sources (only brief mention of Lawrence, for example), but that is perfectly correct because the book is not about the Arabs, but about Britain and its relation to Palestine, which was never a major player in the Arab world.
However, I wuold criticise her in another respect. She displays thinly veiled contempt toward British Christians who share their faith with Jews. Her tone is smug and is based in her belief that Judaism is a superior religion that no intelligent Jew would forswear for an inferior belief system, i.e. in her words, Christianity. She exposes her contempt at several points in the book. She gives no basis for her claim that Judaism is superior to Christianity.
My opinion is that once she ventured down this path she obligated herself to making her case. Actually, she could easily have told her account of history without offering her opinion on this topic. It didn’t add anything to my understanding of the salient issues, and has thus tainted my opinion of the work as a whole.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 08:31 PM • permalink
- Slightly O/T but from the Religion of Peace and reported this morning by that unimpeachable source,702ABC radio news,Christians and Jews luckly enough to be resident in Democratic Iran are to be required to wear a colored identification tag.Christians are to be awarded red tags,Jews will have to make do with yellow ones.
- Oh, and Skeeter, in this unCommon Era, a very Merry Christmas to you and yours.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 08:36 PM • permalink
- Lew, yer shittin me, right?Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 08:38 PM • permalink
- Well then, may I be the first to adumbrate that the “Tenth Crusade” immediately evolve from a rhetorical device of the loony left (pissant Cockburn) into a full blown call to milites Christi by Benedict.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 19 at 08:55 PM • permalink
Christians and Jews luckly enough to be resident in Democratic Iran are to be required to wear a colored identification tag.Christians are to be awarded red tags,Jews will have to make do with yellow ones.
If this is correct, is there a chance – I mean, any chance at all – that people on the Left will finally get the message about what we’re dealing with here?
OK, so they ignore the fact that the “Palestinians” were allied with the Nazis in WWII.
And they ignore the fact that Muslims condemn Jews in the same language the Nazis did.
And they ignore the fact that Iranian President Ringo Starr has called for the extermination of Israel – while denying the Holocaust.
But a yellow ID tag for Jews? Can they really put their hands over their ears and “la la la” to that one?
- 54, 57…
Would the two of you stop acting so humble, you’re not that famous.
Posted by mythusmage on 2006 05 19 at 09:39 PM • permalink
- Dave S., never underestimate the La-La-La Power of the left. The shrill pitch they’re able to obtain, especially when operating in chorus, verges into sonic frequencies beyond the ability of current technology to quantify. It establishes a sentiophagic white-noise resonance within their craniums that screens out any inconvenient reality that doesn’t congrue with the ICF (It’s Chimpy’s Fault) waveform.
- #79 – yep, that’s why I said, “If this is correct.” Didn’t quite pass the smell test. The mullahs are evil, but they’re not stupid enough to tip their hand that obviously (well, actually, they are, which is why it seemed plausible.)
Is this the part where we’re supposed to say, “While not technically true, it does illustrate a larger truth”, or “It’s still an apt metaphor”, or some such dissembling bullshit?
- 71 & 73 Thanks, MentalFloss, for both those responses.
I plan to read Tuchman’s later works as well. It helps to know something about the author’s views before you start.
The earlier use of BCE and CE by historians, of course, makes it perfectly OK for you or anyone else to use them.
What I object to is that, since the imposition of PC, those terms have almost universally replaced BC and AD in everyday, as well as academic use. The reason often given for their use is to avoid offending non-Christians.
I know my Jewish friends are not offended by our traditional terms and greetings. I don’t have any Muslim friends and so I don’t know or care what Muslims think about them.
I suspect that the Muslims are not offended either, and the whole thing has been imposed on us by the same people who have forced the removal of Bibles from hospitals.
- I suspect that your suspicions are not unfounded, Skeeter.
I generally adapt my use of BCE/CE and BC/AD to my perceived belief systems of those to whom I am holding forth.
Uusally, it doesn’t make much difference as their eyes glaze over rather quickly—until someone finally says “Shut up, already—can you BE anymore boring?”.
The I pull out my guitar and lay down some Kottke riffs and steal their girlfriends.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 20 at 12:26 AM • permalink
- The latest news I saw was that, while they talked about passing this law as an addendum to a law specifying what women could wear, they didn’t actually pass it.
They are talking about it though. It makes me wonder if the Mad Mullahs are sending up a trial balloon to see what they can get away with. The reaction has been swift and negative. I just hope it stays that way.
(Sorry, no link. I’m on webtv and it doesn’t give me much room for any url over a small number of spaces.)
#54: Oh, yeah? I’m lots more humble than you are, Stoop Davy. When my friends hang out with me, they wear t-shirts saying, “I’m With Mr. Self-Effacing”. That is, if they notice me at all, such is my shrinking meekness. Why, I’m the Muhammed Ali of humility, the Genghis Khan of modesty!
In defense of Paco’s retiring nature, we never did find him at the bottom of that pool…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 20 at 03:30 AM • permalink
- So, it’s official—
When Stoop Davy Dave talks to you he looks only at your shoes, but when paco talks to you he looks only at his shoes.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 20 at 04:20 AM • permalink
- Latest news – explosion in Palestinian intel HQPosted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 05 20 at 05:02 AM • permalink
- DaveS, optimist 77/
If this is correct, is there a chance – I mean, any chance at all – that people on the Left will finally get the message about what we’re dealing with here?
Bad luck there. It turns out to not be correct (a few threads “up” from here), so therefore it will now be explained as an anti-Iran-govt smear, and used to discredit the next nine TRUE stories about Iranian misbehavior. So the chances now are that people on the Left have one new layer of armor for their delusional outlook.
But IF it turned out to be true, there’s still no better than a 50/50 chance that the good result you describe would be brought about by it, no.Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 05 20 at 07:05 AM • permalink
- Achillea /81
Damn. Just … damn!
That’s w wh whu whu wha what I meant to say!Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 05 20 at 07:16 AM • permalink
explosion in Palestinian intel HQ
It’s that very small room…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 20 at 12:17 PM • permalink
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