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Crazy Al Gore’s climate change comedy is shown in schools from Australia to Norway; the old-school southern religious huckster shakes downscared Saskatchewanites, and is allowed to meddle in the politics of far-away nations.
You’d think the movement behind Gore might, given all of this, be able to tolerate a little dissent; maybe just one DVD’s worth. You’d be wrong:
Dozens of climate scientists are trying to block the DVD release of a controversial Channel 4 programme that claimed global warming is nothing to do with human greenhouse gas emissions.
Sir John Houghton, former head of the Met Office, and Bob May, former president of the Royal Society, are among 37 experts who have called for the DVD to be heavily edited or removed from sale. The film, the Great Global Warming Swindle, was first shown on March 8, and was criticised by scientists as distorted and misleading.
Merely misleading? Well, that’s nothing like being completely and provably wrong, as is Gore’s claim that the US “can’t sell our cars in China today because we don’t meet the Chinese emissions standards”. Edit that, truth-seekers! (By the way, if Gore can be so wrong about something so easily checked, why should we trust him on rather more complex scientific issues?) Martin Durkin, the maker of Great Global Swindle, doesn’t seem too alarmed:
“The DVD will be on sale shortly at a shop near you.”
Which is just as well, because few TV networks are likely to screen it, preferring to throw ratings away on warmening shows. Then again, perhaps the mood on climate change is changing …
- Which brave soul will draw Gaia in cartoon form?Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 26 at 03:00 AM • permalink
- Seriously, this is so close to the Galileo/Iniquisition story as to be genuinely scary. The errors must be ‘corrected’: are they sure they don’t mean recanted? Galileo formally recanted his ‘errors’ under threat, but according to legend, muttered under his breath “eppur si muove”(“but still, it – the earth – moves”)
- It’s interesting that the oceanographer has moved from claiming that channel 4 did not tell him what the show was about – he thought it was about the complexity of the theory (and that he would not have participated if he knew that they were skeptics) – to six weeks or so later claiming it has misrepresented him. Although he did not get around to saying how it had misrepresented him. Perhaps he is still trying to work that bit out.
- There are quite a few people in the US who are trying to force school districts to ban Gore’s myth movie or show it in conjunction with Swindle. Leftie teachers are trying to sneak it into schools under the banner of science and these people are calling them out on it.Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2007 04 26 at 03:46 AM • permalink
- #9. Andrew Ian Dodge.
I wish it would start here. I am sick of all the little “Ralph Wiggins”, parroting the same line of propaganda in ‘I am soooo cute, it must be true’ publications. They are starting to sound like Pimpfs from an era gone buy, under another collective regime in central Europe in the thirties and forties. Before you know it, they too, will be reporting Mum and Dad for any dissent from the collective ‘Goebbels Warming cult police’. Talk about a rehash of the 1970s’ – 1980s’ fear mongering.
- OT* Democrat plans bill to allow medicinal marijuana:
OUTSPOKEN South Australian Democrat Sandra Kanck wants marijuana to be legalised for medicinal purposes, and has begun working on a bill to put to parliament.
I am shocked, shocked! that I agree with one of the Democrat’s policies.
*I need to stop posting OTs, lest the Dark Mistress chastises me.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 04 26 at 04:14 AM • permalink
- Do you really think they’d do any different? No one will be tolerated who tries to derail this gravy train. These
charlatansscientists, whose credibility was previously rated equal to para-normal psychologists, are now fast-tracking and sucking from the government funding firehouse. Dissent will be crushed and fatwahs issued.
- All this rubbish brought to you by the Very Reverend Al Gore, of the Church of Gerbil Wombing. Give generously people the Rev Al is seeking a higher holier office.Posted by surfmaster on 2007 04 26 at 04:37 AM • permalink
- 3 demerit points for Texas Bob!Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 04 26 at 04:39 AM • permalink
- I was wondering if Texas Bob’s wife is Texas Bab, and if any child is Texas Bub.Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 04 26 at 04:50 AM • permalink
- I guess you could say the movie is getting a frosty reception!Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 04 26 at 04:50 AM • permalink
- The Plight of the Morally Superior
We are the eco-egotists
Embrace our latest fad.
When we speak Truth to Power,
Just one thing makes us mad.It’s not the rich and powerful.
They too share the dream
To have their cake and eat it
Engorged on self-esteem.This cake is baked with vanity,
Self-worship and pretense,
For narcissistic poseurs
With little common sense.No, our hatred is reserved
For those we can’t evade
Who doubt our moral grandeur
And rain on our parade.
- It’s actually kind of fun to read everything w/ the strike thru it.Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 04 26 at 05:31 AM • permalink
- I fixed the strike tag. Remember, people, perview is your fiend.Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 04 26 at 05:38 AM • permalink
- I ordered my copy of The Great Global Warming Swindle from Amazon UK for £7.64 on April 20.
The predicted delivery date is May 17.
My emails to ABC and SBS asking when they would be broadcasting this important balancing documentary remain unanswered.
I won’t be able to force my moonbat friends to watch it, but I am going to at least make sure that they have the opportunity.
- EXCELLENT! I’ve been waiting to get enough items to order through Amazon, so that I can get a price reduction on shipping (yes, I pinch my pennies until they scream).
Maybe I’ll order an extra one, and donate it to the local school district….
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 04 26 at 09:54 AM • permalink
- I saw this show in London last Month; it is very very good and convincing.. which is why the greenies etc want it banned.
If the ABC truly wanted to present somethhing different, it would run this documentary. But, of course, it doesn’t; it wants to run the usual lefty/greeny line.Posted by arnienelly on 2007 04 26 at 10:12 AM • permalink
- I need to get ahold of a copy of this. It sounds like it’d be a good watch, and a lovely antidote to all the hype.
Unfortunately, I don’t think donating copies to your university will do any good. Our library here has five copies of “Fahrenheit 9/11,” and one copy of the film made in response, “Fahrenhype 9/11.” When I checked out the latter, I discovered that the DVD had been deliberately ruined: somebody had used a key (judging by the breadth and depth of the scratches) to cut a fishbone pattern into the disc, rendering it unwatchable. Censorship is alive and well.
Posted by Tungsten Monk on 2007 04 26 at 11:08 AM • permalink
Unfortunately, I don’t think donating copies to your university will do any good. Our library here has five copies of “Fahrenheit 9/11,” and one copy of the film made in response, “Fahrenhype 9/11.” When I checked out the latter, I discovered that the DVD had been deliberately ruined: somebody had used a key (judging by the breadth and depth of the scratches) to cut a fishbone pattern into the disc, rendering it unwatchable. Censorship is alive and well.
Wow. The pettiness and small-mindedness in that act is breath-taking.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 04 26 at 11:40 AM • permalink
- Censorship is being considered by the Orwellian government body OFCOM.
In Britain!
Disgraceful!
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 26 at 12:23 PM • permalink
- The Polar Bears are having nothing of it.Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 26 at 12:42 PM • permalink
- All … a site such as KEEPVID will allow you to save YouTube files and files from other popular video sites. Hint if using the KEEPVIDdownload site: paste the URL, click download, then download link, then save the file with a .FLV extension. No need to click elsewhere on the page. Alternatively, you can recover the file from your Temporary Internet Files after viewing on the video site. You’ll likely need to copy the file, to My Videos for example, and rename it with a sensible name with a .FLV extension.
The Great Global Warming Swindle is still posted on YouTube (in 9 parts) as of 6.40am in Sydney.
- My thanks to everyone above who last night helped with my efforts to download and save GGWSwindle.
Problem was that any attempt to download a torrent utility wound up choking my 500 Kb/s broadband speed down to 1-2 Kb/s on those download attempts.
Fresh attempts this morning to download BitComet and uTorrent have also failed.
This has given me plenty of time to look up BitTorrent on Wikipedia so my knowledge base has been considerably broadened.
I am not convinced that I want to be part of a “swarm” and have decided to wait for my DVD copy of GGWS to arrive from Amazon.
- I didn’t see where anyone has posted a link to this, it’s a good read.
Global warming debate ‘irrational’: scientists
The current debate about global warming is “completely irrational,” and people need to start taking a different approach, say two Ottawa scientists.Carleton University science professor Tim Patterson said global warming will not bring about the downfall of life on the planet.
Dozens of climate scientists are trying to block the DVD release of a controversial Channel 4 programme that claimed global warming is nothing to do with human greenhouse gas emissions.
IANAL but I suspect that these “scientists” are on a hiding to nothing. Here in Formerly Great Britain, there are only three grounds for censoring a movie: pornography, criminal libel, or official secrets.
Pornography is anything “liable to deprave or corrupt.” (Hard-core sex, basically, but the definition also captures graphic violence and horror movies like The Evil Dead have been banned for “depravity”.) I hardly think TGGWS could be considered pornographic by any imaginable defintion.
Criminal libel goes way beyond telling lies about someone. AFAIK the only movie to be banned for criminal libel in recent times was a jihadi propaganda piece called International Guerrillas, which incited the murder of the novelist Salman Rushdie. Clearly, TGGWS is not a criminal libel.
Official secrets is an interesting one. Most military and many civilian British officials sign the Official Secrets Act which can makes it a criminal offence for them to disclose certain details of their duties. Therefore, it is a crime for anyone to help them do so, eg by publish those details. Therefore, it’s just barely possible that the “scientists” could suppress the part of TGGWS that explains how Maggie Thatcher cooked the whole scam up to piss off the miners. But they couldn’t suppress any of the rest of it.
No, this is a non-starter as far as the Gore-balls warning crew are concerned. Still, it’s an absolute gift for the movie’s publicists. I look forward to seeing The Great Global Warming Swindle advertised as “The Film They Tried To Ban!”… or even better: “The Inconvenient Truth That Al Gore Doesn’t Want You To See…”
- At least Al Gore and his followers are consistent. They could hardly be seen to embrace free speech while they still don’t believe in free speeches.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 26 at 06:41 PM • permalink
- #81 Skeeter you can follow the Google Video links on Junk Science.
I downloaded a Google Video version last night after previously downloading an MP4 file (230MB) to find the sound plays but not the video. Anyway you do need Google videoplayer (free) to play it. The file downloaded quickly (it’s 571 MB). Also Junk Science provides links to other formats for downloading.
And I’ve just noticed they have links to other documentaries debunking AGW.
- Okay, democracy fans, which great statesman said this?
In fact there was a time when America’s public discourse was consistently much more vivid, focused and clear. Our Founders, probably the most literate generation in all of history, used words with astonishing precision and believed in the Rule of Reason.
Their faith in the viability of Representative Democracy rested on their trust in the wisdom of a well-informed citizenry. But they placed particular emphasis on insuring that the public could be well-informed. And they took great care to protect the openness of the marketplace of ideas in order to ensure the free-flow of knowledge.
Do you really need to check?
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 26 at 07:10 PM • permalink
- I caught a bit Kevni on Lateline last night (I had to change the channel as Tony Jones’ tongue
lashinglicking was making me ill). Rudd kept talking about bringing “down electricity consumption through demand-side management” but wouldn’t elaborate.“Demand-side management” means taxes in my book. I wonder how high you’d need to tax electricity to bring about a 60 per cent reduction in carbon emissions?
If the Libs had any brains, they’d be hammering Rudd on this point between now and the election.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 04 26 at 10:00 PM • permalink
- Give him a break. His name’s Kevin. He’s from Brisbane.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 26 at 10:07 PM • permalink
- #90
TONY JONES: All right, final quick question, Mark Latham. As I said at the beginning of the program, when he leapt on stage at his first conference as leader they played the INXS song New Sensation. How about you? Got a song, got an anthem?Nominations?
Duelling banjos? (Deliverance theme).
Beverly Hillbillies?
Green Acres?
Madame Butterfly?
Pirates of pantsed-arse?
- #97 At least he speaks better English than Manuel from Barcelona.Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 26 at 10:29 PM • permalink
“My name’s Kevin, I’m from Queensland, I’m here to help,”
Well, you can start by shutting up, fucking off and never darkening our doorways again, you arse felching, four-eyed, toad licker. He annoys me a bit, does Kev.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 26 at 10:33 PM • permalink
- This witty bit on banter from Bunter might return to bite him on his cream-bun enhanced bum:-
Mr Rudd raised a laugh among delegates when he accused Mr Howard of being much more than just a climate change sceptic.
“Mr Howard is a climate change denier,” he said.
“This is the modern equivalent of arguing that the earth is flat and that NASA faked the moon landing and that Elvis is out there somewhere still flipping burgers in Florida.
“That’s how in touch with reality Mr Howard is on this one.”
I would have thought the hysterical and increasingly shrill purveyors of human-induced global crispydom were in the Elvis is alive category rather than those who require actual evidence before accepting a flimsy theory as fact- Kevni’s hitched his wagon to this twaddle big time (and seems to be trying to outloon bob Brown on this issue while simultaneously attempting to appear fiscally responsible, a feat of gymnastics that’d make Nadia Comaneci look like a polio patient), and the growing scepticism and cynicism over anthropomorphic heaty type thingies may well have the opposite effect that Kev’s looking for.
Especially when some costings/tax rates start to appear- not too many average punters want to pay extra tax to keep nanna on life support let alone fund some expensive actions which are likely to produce no tangible effects whatsoever.
Hippy gibberish plays well at the pub and dinner parties, not when it requires actual sacrifice of income and living standards.
- #99 and #102: Thanks for two useful words to add to my vocabulary.
And IT, from the Macquarie definition of felch, it would seem that you are guilty of tautology in your #99.
As a Queenslander, I have been watching Krudd with revulsion since long before he appeared on the national scene.
Years ago, I asked Laborfriendsacquaintances what they thought of him. Their response was that he was almost universally feared and loathed by members of the ALP.
- #105- while young alex has some Bunterish appearance, he lacks the smug air of supercillious superiority that Kevni exudes, and I think his ego actually contains calories. He seems to get chubbier by the day, especially around the kisser and clacker- pop a striped beanie and blazeron his growing girth and corpulent cruet, and a sticky bun in his flaccid mit and it’s beyond doubt- Bill Heffernan and Wilson Tuckey wouldn’t be able to contain themselves, Kevvie being found upended in the dunnies behind the chamber, minus his lunch money.
- egg_ @96
“Am I alone, And unobserved? I am!
Then let me own I’m an aesthetic sham!
This air severe Is but a mere Veneer!
This cynic smile Is but a wile Of guile!
This costume chaste Is but good taste Misplaced!
Let me confess!
– “In short, my mediaevalism’s affectation,
Born of a morbid love of admiration.”Gilbert&Sullivan; “Patience”
Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 04 27 at 01:01 PM • permalink
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