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A grievous insult for Sheik al-Hilali:
Australia’s Muslim spiritual leader, Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, has lost his $40,000 cleric’s allowance and been told to apply for the dole …
The high-profile sheik has been instructed to “contact your local Centrelink office” by the nation’s peak Muslim body, the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, which is locked in a legal dispute over its leadership and has been denied access to its bank accounts.
Sheik al-Hilali reacts in his usual calm manner:
“I would prefer to die 100 times over than to stand in line seeking welfare payments from Centrelink,” he says …
“Does your dignity or Islamic manners permit you to direct such an insult to a spiritual leader who had spent his life in the service of the faith?
“You are very much mistaken if you believe that you can insult me, my dignity will not accept for me to be held hostage to the mercy of AFIC or anyone else for that matter.”
Earlier understated Hilalisms:
* “It was filled with perils, indescribable perils!”
* “Of course this is a difficult and dangerous case and the hard time in Baghdad. I have enough for like a film, movie in Baghdad!”
* “Every so often a car would blow up and we would witness bodies flying in the air.”
UPDATE. Good news for the Sheik:
AFIC’s legal adviser Haset Sali today said a glitch in the system was being sorted out and the sheik would be paid.
“He will be looked after, he will get his pay in due course … and the poor old sheik won’t have to join the dole queue,” Mr Sali said.
They are mocking him! His dignity will not accept it!
- Based on Nick Dyrenfuth’s ramblings at the LeftWrites site, al-Hilali appears to have all the credentials to be an academic historian.
“But when you become acquainted with their traditions among their tribes, you find that they have customs such as circumcision, marriage ceremonies, respect for tribal elders, and burial of the dead – all customs that show that they were connected to ancient Islamic culture before the Europeans set foot in Australia.
“That is, Islam had roots deep in the Australian soil and read the Qur’an and called to prayer before the bells of the churches rang in Australia. The best evidence of this is the hundreds of mosques in the center of Australia built by the Afghans. Some of them were destroyed, and others were turned into Australian archeological museums, and still others remained unharmed, and they bear a history that proves that Islam has roots and ancient connections to Australia.”
He’s up there with one of the best intellectual minds since Ant Lowenstein!
— Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 07 06 at 02:10 AM • permalink
- I would prefer to die 100 times over than to stand in line seeking welfare payments from Centrelink
Me too.
My solution was to get a job.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 07 06 at 02:25 AM • permalink
But when you become acquainted with their traditions among their tribes, you find that they have customs such as circumcision, marriage ceremonies, respect for tribal elders, and burial of the dead – all customs that show that they were connected to ancient Islamic culture before the Europeans set foot in Australia.
Islamic? Nah. They’ve been lost in the desert for 40,000 years. They’re Jewish.
- Typical “priest” class of person. the world owes me a living because I tell you what to do.
The priest class includes many actors, priests, academics, lawyers and social workers. they strongly believe they are the only thing between civilisation and the barbarian hordes of plebs and scum that make up the rest of society.
GET OUT AND WORK you squeezer!!
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 06 at 02:42 AM • permalink
- Let me get this straight. The AFIC sends a letter telling Sheik Hillbilly to suck eggs and now it is a “glitch”?? bwu ha ha ha!!Posted by Hank Reardon on 2006 07 06 at 02:43 AM • permalink
- Lakemba and the Lebanese-Muslim community has by a large margin, Australia’s highest level of unemployed (and probably unemployable).
It shouldn’t therefore be too hard for Hilaly to find someone in Lakemba who can give him a lift to the Centrelink dole office.
Maybe Doug Woods will pay him for bravely rescuing him from his terrorist mates.
Failing all that, there’s always the Saudis.
- what the hell does a mufti do anyway for that dosh??? not that i guess bishops and cardinals are models of backbreaking endeavour either…. but then most of them don’t spout the usual load of hogwash this guy comes out with… although this could just be a cultural perspective i suppose… both lots seem to like going around in dresses for some reason????
and i’d say places like lakemba would have to provide strong competition with many outback indigenous outstations for the most concentrated collections of unemployables… but without half the justification in terms of their proximity to training and employment opportunities…
- This is great news. An islamist who doesn’t want to suck on the welfare teat. His job prospects would be further enhanced, if he could see himself to learning English.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 07 06 at 03:29 AM • permalink
- 12# “and do these long term bludger types have to go every fortnight to centrelink, or are they recognised as being such “no hoper/lost causes” they just direct debit their payments straight into their accounts and tell them not to come in bung up the place???”
The second option casanova…..its called “Disability Support Pension”, and its a favourite amongst islamic malingerers everywhere (and not just Australia).
- This is off-topic, but a guy called David Heidelberg used to post here, yes?
Used to troll with a silly name like “Mustafa” or something, right?
Well, if it is the same guy I thought I’d pass on the news that he passed away a few days ago apparently.
- ah, one less left-tard in the world. His last entry is a standing testimony to his stupidity.
- I may not agree with David’s viewpoints but I appreciated him as a person. May God rest his soul and may his family receive my sincerest condolences.Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 06 at 05:12 AM • permalink
- I also disagree with darrinh although the last exchange I had with him produced this comment:
Captain displays the classic wingnut affliction of circular reasoning.
The fact that the ‘war against terror’ has created a terrorist hellhole is used as an excuse and justification for the war in the first place.
My response was unkind and for that I feel regret. He was sincere.
My response was unkind and for that I feel regret. He was sincere.
Sincerity neither excuses nor lessens idiocy or evil. You should feel no regrets.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 07 06 at 06:49 AM • permalink
- I didn’t agree with David’s politics either, but I’m sure if we managed to avoid that topic I could have whiled away a couple of enjoyable hours over a beer with him. He struck me as a good person. It’s a shame.Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 06 at 07:22 AM • permalink
- Jane Hutcheon (ABC 7.30 report tonight) interviewed a reprsentative of the Muslim Council of Britain, since the anniversary of 7/7 is upon us.
He assured her that his faith had no truck with that violent jihad stuff. Really?
“Sunday Times reporter Ali Hussain spent six weeks in Beeston, where three of the 7/7 bombers came from, and filed a highly disturbing report on the community’s hatred for Britain”. Read it here.
- DEATH BEFORE DOLE
Read that and thought, oh my, Bob Dole had or was near death.
Either not enough High Voltage caffeine, or not paying attention to my homepage Fox News (which leads back to, not enough High Voltage caffeine.
As to Sheik al-Hilali. May I suggest and remember, practice makes perfect….s-l-o-w-l-y…’d-o y-o-u w-a-n-t f-r-i-e-s w-i-t-h t-h-a-t’?
As to David Heidelberg, if a sane voice, then RIP, but if of the Michael Moore/Cindy Sheehan bent, tough darts.
- well i agree sincerity is no excuse, goebbels and himmler were sincere…
reading some of the comments from you guys giving condolences and then thinking back to some of the little that i saw of what heidelberg wrote, i suppose he isn’t one of the people i despised, and so in that context i can perhaps say it was unfortunate and commiserate with his family… we need all the half decent lefty types u can get (lieberman for example) becoz the cranks are threatening to take over their side….
i do however think that there are some real scum out there (aka sheehan and others) who if i woke up tomorrow and heard they had been hit by a bus i wouldn’t blink an eye or shed a tear…
some of the people undermining and attacking their own people and countries, while falsely propagandising about the goodness of our opponents would get short shrift from me… the turn coat, cowards betraying their own people are worse than our opponents in my opinion… the day they assume room temperature will be a good day and i’ll definitely say so…
do you think some of our lefty, moonbat friends would shed any tears if bush or howard or anyone got assassinated??? they would be dancing in the streets, so i don’t confuse some of them for harmless fellows who disagree with us on one or two points but would be happy to share a beer with us…
but as stated, heidelberg didn’t strike me as one of the real scummy types… in that context i can say its not worth dancing on his grave… hopefully his family can move on…. and at least in what i assume was his last post he said his life was complete….
- #24, well he and his mates at FDB didnt think twice about harrassing my employers to get me sacked or having the media terrorise my wife, I have no doubt they would jump for joy if i carked it, which could well be a reality as im currently suffering a dose of chicken pox. I have no sympathy for him.
- I heard on the radio this morning about Hilaly being sent to Centrelink and I nearly drove off the road I was laughing so hard.Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 06 at 08:27 AM • permalink
- Al Hilbilly and his apologist Keysar Trad are most definitely the sort of immigrants we should be encouraging to come to Australia.
They enrich our daily lives with with their pronouncements about what evil bastards we are, that Oz belongs to some legendary Muslim explorers who are now returning to claim their birthright.At the same time they have hit the Lotto jackpot of Centrelink’s DSP and solemnly announce this is “jizya” tribute to be paid to them by the filthy infidels.
Outstanding citizens.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 06 at 08:31 AM • permalink
- The great thing about being dead, is that you won’t care what they say.
no, the dead don’t care, but the living can cheapen and degrade themselves by what they say. look, there are lots of graves i’ll gladly dance on inspite of my aspirations to improve my christianity; i’ll just have to let the Big Guy sort that out when my time comes, but his ain’t one of them, not even close.
my sympathies are with his loved ones.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 06 at 08:44 AM • permalink
- I did not agree with David Heidelberg’s political opinions, but I was generally civil to him, and he was generally civil to me. He was not a raving nut, and he left behind family who loved him for what he was. For them how can I have anything but compassion?
darrinH, you might have had run-ins with him and various unpleasantness, but even there his family were not involved in that. saying bad things about DH will not affect him, but it might affect them, and they have done nothing to deserve it.
He was a bit of a character and I had some interesting discussions with him. We swapped some entertaining insults and pissed each other off. I’m rather sad that he’s gone.
markL
Canberra
- Did you say naked women? Not that this is a topic about naked women, nor am I saying that I would join any topic about naked women, which it isn’t, so if the topic is naked woman count me in…er…out, no…in.
What are we talking about again? And are there any naked women there.soldiers are easily distracted by shiny things and naked woman…
- #34 – casanova – yes, I appreciate the points you make … but, but, but …
The guy maintained a blog, he was not the President of any countries (as far as I can tell), he was still young, and his family and friends are grieving.
No insults offered here, even if they were clever and witty, will hit the target.
De-facto, the surviving family becomes the target, which is tasteless, to say the least. If people here know the family personally they should hurl the insults privately when they visit the family or send them a card.
At least some here took him on in life, and shared an equal exchange, with a degree of enjoyment, it would seem.
For those who didn’t: this tediously predictable post-death abuse, under the auspices of full anonymity is neither brave nor honest.
- #21 His passing causes me to stop and wonder when my time comes what people will say about me.
People will say thank God there were men like him willing to stand between us and evil. Can’t say much that’s better than that.
I left my condolences at Heidelberg’s site yesterday. I didn’t agree with his viewpoint, but he was entitled to his opinion.
- ushie @ #53
Question: The Australian State pays all its practicing clerics? How weird, if so.Absolutely not! None, zero, ziltch. Unless the bludgers are on welfare while still ‘practicing’.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 06 at 11:24 AM • permalink
- Where did that notion come from anyway?Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 06 at 11:26 AM • permalink
- Dr. Phil is dead??
And why should the Sheik Taj get any damn money from the Government?
I don’t understand all this entitlement crap, if he needs money he should just ask his wife for some!Posted by -keith in mtn. view on 2006 07 06 at 12:00 PM • permalink
- Spiritual leader my arse…..
or perhaps he is
saw him once waiting at the lights about 4 years ago at George and Young .. wrapped in a white bed sheet and secreted in all the sumptuous upholstery only the backseat of an 85 Toyota Corona can provide
5 scraggly bearded dudes touching thighs, wearing sheets in a crappy old Toyota… No alcohol involved, or even skis on a roof rack.
… That is just wrong..
not to mention
VERY UNCOOL
- Australian Federation of Islamic Councils may get some government funding – I dunno. Wouldn’t be difficult; every other organisation does, somewhere, somehow from some arm of government.Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 06 at 02:29 PM • permalink
- Well I mean also, why should Sheik Taj get any dole-money either? Let the Saudis pay him.Posted by -keith in mtn. view on 2006 07 06 at 04:02 PM • permalink
- We don’t ‘do’ constitutional amendments as a rule, ushie. Historically very few referenda get a ‘Yes’ so we muddle on and it usually works.
Its not that the Islamic Council would get funding as a religion (and I’m still not sure that they get anything); it would be more in the guise of a ‘community organisation’ from the Department of Holding Hands or funding for them to visit sick community members from the Department of We Pay You to Help Them Stay out of Hospital.
Religion & State are quite separate here (except our titular Head of State is also the titular the Head of the Church of England – ROFL!) but that doesn’t prevent religious organisations from getting funding for various projects. In fact the government sort of puts the delivery of various ‘welfare’ programs effectively out to tender and various religious (and other) organisations (or at least their welfare etc arms) often bid & thus get funded to supply various welfare type programs (public housing…etc).
Not a bad idea, actually, if you consider governments are hopeless at delivering anything efficiently. If an Anglican or Catholic or whatever organisation tenders $X to deliver a certain amount of community care etc, then its probably money better spent that employing chains of public servants to administer the same thing.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 06 at 06:37 PM • permalink
- The old Sheik must be slipping.As soon as he got the sack he should have contacted his local friendly ALP Branch Stacker and sought his intervention.He would have ,no doubt,been fixed up with a sinecure at one of the nearby ALP controlled Councils.He’s got “Community Liason Officer” stamped all over him,he’s ready made for the job.$70000 a year,free car and fuel card an office and a PC,come to work if and when you feel like it.Beats hell out of the dole or his $40000 a year Shiekdom.
- #53, Ushie,
You don’t need to be giving Texas Bob any distracting visions just now. He’s having a hard enough time as it is. Talking about the golden death of Pussy Galore is right out.T.B. I’ll warn you again about short-timers syndrome. You put shinygoldnakedwomennamedpussygalore right out of your head.
- cassanova. Lakemba. Its the ‘mussie’ ghetto in Sydney.
Believe me, you don’t want to go there.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 06 at 11:47 PM • permalink
- #74 – He called her a wanker for her gushing defense of neo-nazi duo, Prussian Blue.Posted by gustov_deleft on 2006 07 08 at 12:48 AM • permalink
- By the way, Darrinh, you’re a real quality human being….Not.Posted by gustov_deleft on 2006 07 08 at 12:49 AM • permalink
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