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What might you find at a “moderate” mosque, such as that big joint in Regents Park? Mark Steyn investigates:
Well, if you swing by the bookstore, you can pick up DVDs of hot preachers like Sheikh Feiz, who does these hilarious pig noises every time he mentions the Jews – “Oh, Muslim, behind me is the Jew. [snort-snort] Come and kill him. [snort-snort].” You can also buy tapes from Sheikh Yasin, a celebrity American “revert” (ie, convert) to Islam, in which he explains that you should “beat women lightly”, and that a Muslim can never be friends with a non-Muslim, and that Christian missionaries deliberately introduced Aids to Africa by putting it in the vaccines for other diseases. Another “revert”, Jermaine Lindsay, got the jihad fever at the mosque and then went and self-detonated in the July 7th bombings.
Meanwhile, in Sydney:
Sunday the 4th of March is Clean Up Australia Day. The Lebanese Muslim Association is asking for your help in making Australia shine.
Volunteers will meet at Lakemba Mosque at 10am.
There’s a BBQ afterwards. BYOCM.
- BYO pork chops to the barbie.Posted by Azrael on 2007 02 22 at 02:54 AM • permalink
- I’ll say one thing about a Muzzie barbie, never have to worry about flies getting in your meat. They cover that up good and proper.
On the downside; hard to get a drink and I prefer backyard cricket to stonings.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 22 at 03:17 AM • permalink
- #13 They’d love to hear it. There’s little a muzzie loves more than to play the victim.Posted by Muzzie Zapper on 2007 02 22 at 04:50 AM • permalink
- Good on them, I say!
Posted by ann j
Well, the Lebanese Muslim Association’s definition of cleaning up Australia might differ from ours.
Perhaps they are handing out baseball bats and iron bars (Glocks optional) at Lakemba Mosque, 10am., prior to clearing the dirty kafurs off the streets of Sydney.
Pure bloody taqiyya intended to deceive the infidels.
- I’m with you Ann J. I remember recently reading on this site about that group of people who, no matter what John Howard does, hate him for it. Seems to me that this is just the other side of the coin. That some people are incapable of congratulating this group for a good job reveals much about their attitude.
I would like to say thankyou to this group for taking part in a good cause.
- Funny that they’ve only developed a sense of civic responsibility and social contribution when the federal government has finally developed the ‘nads to start talking about stripping citizenship and invoking return to sender, but maybe I’m just an Islamophobic cynic.
And just which demographic is a Clean Up Australia Day symbolic gesture going to appeal to?
I’ve was involved in leftist politics for 15 years- I can smell bullshit from a mile away.
Willful ignorance about Islam abounds, you have a lot of company.
Won’t you at least educate yourself about Islam for the sake of your kids or other young relatives.
Do you think Australia will somehow be immune from the strife that follows Islam everywhere it goes?
Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, Kashmir, the Philippines, Chechnya, the numerous attempted genocides of Armenians by Turkish and Kurdish Muslims, the upwards of sixty million dead Hindus and Buddhists when Islam pushed into India, the destruction of the Persian and Egyptian civilizations and the Christian and Jewish communities throughout the Middle East and North Africa.
You think the slaughter of 2000 Thai Buddhists by Muslims last year was an anomaly?
That was absolutely true to Islamic form.
The young Australians of today and their kids will likely be the ones caught up in the Australian bloodbath when it comes.
They are the ones who will be stuck with the consequences of the incredible stupidity and ignorance that abounds today about Islam and the misplaced Kumbaya like sentimentality that prevails against all reason.
K.S. Lal’s The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India
- Mmm. Covered meat. (Now that Ash Wednesday’s over and I can start killing San Fran with beef. Woo-hoo!)Posted by andycanuck on 2007 02 22 at 10:13 AM • permalink
- BYO Cartoon MohammadPosted by Muzzie Zapper on 2007 02 22 at 12:12 PM • permalink
- BYOCM = Burn Your Own Citroen, Mate?Posted by Major John on 2007 02 22 at 03:42 PM • permalink
- BYOCM: Bring your own Christian martyr?
Imperial KeeperPosted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 02 22 at 03:48 PM • permalink
- #23 Mike_W
I don’t in any way deny those events you mentioned, which are horrific and of course require attention.
What I don’t want understand is why anyone would consider it a good idea to continue to ridicule and condemn those who wish to do good. A number of people on this site go on about how the ‘Muslims aren’t doing their part’, and how ‘they don’t fit in’, and how ‘they hate it here so why don’t they just go home if they hate it so much’. Well here’s a group who clearly like Australia, who are getting involved in a community event, and who are doing their part to improve the country.
Spurn them for their evils, sure, but I think you should be willing to agree that in this instance what this group is doing is good and right.
Check out the definition of taqiyya.
Islam fully sanctions deceit.
Muslims divide all the world into dar al-Harb (land of war) and dar al-Islam (land of Islam).
Muslims in Australia would consider themselves behind enemy lines, in dar al-Harb.
They will do and say anything to pull the wool over the eyes of the hated infidel, while they consolidate their position here.
Every day makes a future civil war more certain.
They cannot ever be trusted.
- #31 sim.They were certainly “getting involved” this week,there’s been a drive-by shooting every night and they don’t even bother to pick up their spent cartridges.So much for their idea of Cleaning up Australia.Like Habib said,and with this lot it’s even easier,their brand of bullshit is just so predictable.
- Spurn them for their evils, sure, but I think you should be willing to agree that in this instance what this group is doing is good and right.
I’m inclined to agree with you, sim. And even if it’s all merely some cynical charade to make themselves look good, the places will still get cleaned (and it’s not like they’re offering to polish the control rods in Lucas Heights). Badmouthing the effort isn’t going to take away whatever public approval it garners and, if their desire to behave as good citizens isn’t just for show, makes their detractors look paranoid and hateful.
- If they would do good, I suggest they begin by standing up and unambiguously proclaiming their disagreement with, and aversion to terrorism done in the name of their religion. That means that they speak without the ubiquitous “but” attached.
Let them join the fight against barbarism.
There are those who have done so, of course, but they are few and far between–and they suffer at the hands of their supposed moderate brothers and sisters for daring to speak out.
If the Muslim communities in the West are distrusted, it is their own fault. After 9/11, I was more than willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I was brought up to believe that one judges each individual on his own merits. During the intervening years since 2001, the actions of every single Muslim community in the West, with very rare exception, has taught me that I must invert my usual method of forming judgments about people. Even if they do not act as one, the majority stay silent about what the others do in their name, thereby becoming complicit. They are counting on your generosity of spirit, and misplaced sense of justice, to not blame them.
- #35, I have to agree with Saltydog. After 9/11, I actually felt sorry for the Muslim community, believing they would be shamed and made fearful by what their coreligionists had done. In the years since, I’ve seen nothing but lecturing, hectoring, and victimology from the Muslim community, with very few speaking out for western ideas of freedom, even those who live in, and benefit from, the west. They squandered whatever good will they might have had, and it will take a lot more than a community cleanup drive to get back.
- Actually, I have thought of a benefit accrued by the continued existence of SW Sydney’s Lebanese Muslim community- while they’re rebirthing WRXs, defrauding Centrelink and worksafe, performing drivebys on rival homies, punching on with clubbies and seaweeds, terrorising suburban rail passengers, molesting and insulting Anglo-Australian women, throwing flares and punches at Canterbury games and producing moronic videos featuring truculent cretins boasting of their penis size (and confirming its miniscule status), they’re not firing missiles into northern Israel.
Just where do you think Hezbollah gets its recruits from- the Jehovahs Witnesses?
Lebanon used to be one of the most cultured and wealthy states in the Levant- Beiruit was known as the “Paris of the East”*.
Since the infiltration of its south by Shi’ite yahoos the place has been in the dunny, with constant conflict. These are the same ignorant, atavistic peasants inflicted on us by Whitlam and Fraser, despite the advice of their own relevant departments- both these swine should have their bollocks fed trhough a mangle.
*Actually the description still holds, with the fairly equal number of burning autos and prowling gangs of surly, swarthy simpletons trying their darndest to recreate Mad Max 2’s ambience on their home turf.
- I’m indifferent to this effort. I’m not going to condemn them as it may very well be sincere. But as others have pointed out, it doesn’t count for much until they start to actually denounce extremism from within their community without any of the usual equivocations.
One of the most disgusting things I ever saw was an ABC interview last year with the female principal of a Sydney private Islamic high school (and one that commendably was starting to achieve good academic results). She was articulate, spoke with an Aussie accent, and wore a moderate scarf, rather than the more confronting niquab, and spoke lots of nice words about harmony and kumbaya stuff, etc.
The ideal moderate muslim? Well no, not quite…
My problem? Every time, she referred to the WTC attack on 9/11, she phrased her words in the form: ”…that was allegedly committed by muslims.”
She did it 3-4 times and the interviewer never challenged her on it.
If even the ‘moderate muslims’ in our midsts are still pandering to the conspiracy-rubbish, and cannot unequivocally admit what happened, then it’s going to take a lot more than picking up a few pieces of litter to make me trust this community.
- sorry, but I’m with sim and annj
growing up playing soccer (football) in the city I played with a fair few muslim kids. They were great value. Ordinary boys from ordinary families having a laugh and trying to get by. Their religious communities and organisations have been hijacked by the Wahabbists (or worse), but less than 30% attend mosques in this country anyway. Unlike in Britain, support for imposing sharia law is negligible. Blind Freddie could see that it will never happen here. Are you going to write off the vast majority of Muslims whose main interest is just to keep their heads down and do their best for their families? When you meet a muslim in the street, are you going to be telling them to fuck off back to their home country? Or thinking ‘you fucking muslims, you’re all alike?’
If you are, you’re small-minded and paranoid. Your prejudicial catastrophising is just as bad as global warm-mongering is in another context. With respect, you need to take a pill and lie down.
- Do not confuse the individual with the collective.
There are fine muslims, there is no good islam.
Some Collingwood fans shouldn’t be shot. Collingwood Football Club should be razed.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 22 at 09:54 PM • permalink
- BYO Compliant Media?Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 02 22 at 11:48 PM • permalink
- #43 Britain 1990:
growing up playing soccer (football) in the city I played with a fair few muslim kids. They were great value. Ordinary boys from ordinary families having a laugh and trying to get by. Their religious communities and organisations have been hijacked by the Wahabbists (or worse), but less than 30% attend mosques in this country anyway. Unlike in LEBANON, support for imposing sharia law is negligible. (INSERT LEFTY POLITICIAN NAME HERE) could see that it will never happen here. Are you going to write off the vast majority of Muslims whose main interest is just to keep their heads down and do their best for their families? When you meet a muslim in the street, are you going to be telling them to fuck off back to their home country? Or thinking ‘you fucking muslims, you’re all alike?’ If you are, you’re small-minded and paranoid. Your prejudicial catastrophising is just as bad as (INSERT INSANE LEFTY CAUSE) is in another context. With respect, you need to take a pill and lie down.
growing up playing soccer (football) in the city I played with a fair few muslim kids….
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