Britain still doomed

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An audience of British leftists is asked: “Do you feel morally superior to the Taliban?” Their response:

Only about a third raised a hand to say they did, a nice demonstration of relativist liberal guilt.

And in other British Taliban news:

Spies from Britain’s MI6 are thought to have held at least six meetings with key Taliban figures in order to negotiate a peace deal in Afghanistan’s south-eastern Helmand province.

The revelations are an embarrassment to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who just a fortnight ago denied in the British Parliament any such talks were taking place.

Two European envoys – one working for the EU, and another working for the UN – have been expelled from Afghanistan over these Talichats.

Posted by Tim B. on 12/26/2007 at 06:17 PM
    1. It’s not a question of who’s morally superior – it’s a question of “who’s startin’ the shit?”

      Posted by mojo on 2007 12 26 at 06:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. Want to see no hands?  Ask that audience if they are morally superior to Stalin.

      Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 12 26 at 06:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. I’m surprised any of them feel morally superior to any non-Republican or non-conservative.  I mean, after all, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, right?  (Unless that freedom fighter is in the US/UK/OZ military, in which case they’re automatically terrorists.)

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 12 26 at 07:22 PM • permalink

 

    1. Ask if they’re morally superior to Bush – they’d rush the podium…

      Posted by anthony_r on 2007 12 26 at 07:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. the first link.. a lapsed catholic with severe guilt tries to moralise?
      come debate this lapsed catholic with no guilt
      silly fool who was over educated

      Posted by missred on 2007 12 26 at 08:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. It was all over our ABC news last night about the diplomats being expelled.

      I nearly bit my tongue in half when it was mentioned that they were representing the EU and the UN.

      There’s a reason I’m not allowed to watch the news when there’s anyone around.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 12 26 at 09:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. How many times has this sort of crap led to a marxist nob?

      “He went to a grammar school run by the De La Salle brotherhood, toyed with the idea of becoming a priest but instead won a place at Cambridge, fell under the influence of Raymond Williams and became a different kind of cultish guru: a Marxist literary critic.”

      A failed priest goes on to a life of telling others how to live. Even old

      smoking Joe was a seminary student.

      And Brown needs to be run out of office if it turns out these takls were anything other than surrender negotiations. (Any Pom readers know how this is done?)

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 12 26 at 09:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. O/T but just spotted this miserable old wobbleguts column on the ABC website for Christmas
      Bob Ellis the turd looking for an arse to slither out of.He has a swipe at Islam though, but only so he can say its just as bad a Catholicism.

      “..And I’ve watched of late with mounting apprehension the progress of Islam, and the return of its blood-relative Protestant Christianity, surprised by what bollocks it still clung onto -..”

      Bloody Protestants!!!

      “..His Chosen People’s leader, Sharon, was not a serial-slaughtering madman; that the Crusades were not an early equivalent of genocide; that the Inquisition was not an early breach of the Geneva Conventions; and so on..”

      “..It’s funny, too, that nobody who ever loved me has been in touch with me since they died, not one of them, not one in fifty years. Not a postcard, not an email, not a cell-phone call, not a fax..”

      Why would they want to even if they could you sanctimonious old windbag??

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 12 26 at 09:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. If only they could have parachuted Rudolf Hess in to negotiate with the Taliban?

      Posted by Copious Maximus on 2007 12 26 at 09:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. i dont see any one of them i want to vote for.  unless one of them emerges with some true values and some hard hitting foreign policy shit. but we are still months away. i hate the fact they start campaigning this early. it means nothing. they spout their diarreah until nov 08

      Posted by missred on 2007 12 26 at 09:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. Okay, I tried, I really tried to understand what Eagleton was saying…..maybe it was the one too many margarita’s at dinner but it all came across as pseudo-intellectual gibberish.

      I sorta feel like Homer Simpson’s dog—I see his lips moving but all I hear is “blah blah blah blah”.

      Posted by Zardoz on 2007 12 26 at 09:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. perhaps zardoz you werent raised catholic.. i understood it all..

      Posted by missred on 2007 12 26 at 09:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. shit it is btw lol

      Posted by missred on 2007 12 26 at 09:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. Are you sure they didn’t ask “how many of you feel intellectually superior to the Taliban?”

      Posted by Penguin on 2007 12 26 at 10:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim B., in reference to the bribe mutually beneficial agreement I proposed previously here is the rough draft. If you decide you don’t want to give up your column even for a week then I guess I could settle for my version being printed in the papers going to 1.618’s side of town.

      Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2007 12 26 at 10:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. But I bet they all would have raised their hands if the question had been about Rupert Murdoch!

      “Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda – worse for our society. It’s as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.”
      — MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann in an interview with Playboy magazine, October issue.

      (from MRC)

      Posted by spot_the_dog on 2007 12 26 at 10:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. I can’t choose which headline to go with:

      One third of British leftists are liars.

      Two thirds of British leftists are honest.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 12 26 at 10:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. spot_the_dog

      Olbermann is a prime example of how some are affected by masturbation.

      Especially when continued into their mid to late 40’s…half dozen times each day.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 26 at 10:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. Olberman’s gotten so much practice he can switch hands without missing a stroke.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 12 26 at 10:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. #18 and #19, he also called President Bush, on the MSNBC news, “The pathological presidential liar, or an idiot-in-chief”, accused him of sending America “marching backwards into the pit of American Apartheid”, and finished with “You, sir, have no business being President.”

      Like so many lefties, a real class act.

      Posted by spot_the_dog on 2007 12 26 at 10:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. spot_the_dog

      Olbermann wasn’t worth two shits when he was with ESPN, either.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 26 at 11:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. It takes a real special mind-set to set the Taliban and al Qaeda above, say, Murdoch or Bush on the ol’ moral superiority scale.  El Cid, when O’mann was with ESPN which team would he have placed as “more evil than Al Qaeda”?

      Posted by spot_the_dog on 2007 12 26 at 11:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. 22 spot

      Hmmmm, good question. In his days there, in American Pro football, I’d have to say the Oakland Raiders…No one liked the bastards, except me.

      Mean, nasty shits they were.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 26 at 11:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Like others here I am suspicious of the one third figure.  Perhaps they misunderstood the question, thought it was, oh… “Do you feel moral sympathy to the Taliban?”

      As for the morons of Olbermann’s stripe, what really bothers me is the outside possibility that they actually believe those idiotic claims, and are not just shooting off their mouths for effect.  I believe Olbermann is amazingly stupid, but is it possible to be that stupid and still breathe?

      Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 12 27 at 12:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. His obsessive hatred keeps him alive, I suppose, Steve.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 12 27 at 12:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #8 Frollicking, I read Ellis’s words. I can not bring myself to call them an essay, an article, nor even an opinion.

      They are musings—at best—and I am disgusted that my tax dollars should go to subsidise this overused loofah, this pummice stone with a word processor in his attempts to exfoliate the dander of his childhood.

      I will waste no more time—no more time than that wasted in trying to decipher his perambulating prose—in seeking some defining conclusion, some drawing together of his arguments or some definitive position on anything resembling the topic upon which he was commissioned (apparently) to expound.

      In the end, only one underlying theme was eventually ejaculated from his masturbatory maunderings—his own self-worship.

      The man is a fundamentalist, a fervent adherent to the First Church of Ellis.

      Posted by MentalFloss on 2007 12 27 at 12:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ummm, will someone please tell me what MentalFloss, said?

      I mean, I read it and I got those “to’s”, the “my’s” and other two or even four letter words …but them 10 dollar words is beyond me, mates.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 27 at 01:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’m not entirely sure, El Cid, but I reckon the phrase “his masturbatory maunderings” is a keeper!

      Posted by spot_the_dog on 2007 12 27 at 01:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. 28

      his masturbatory maunderings

      Do believe you are correct spot_the_dog, a keeper. It has flow…Jesus, I really do need to see a Doctor.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 27 at 01:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. #27. El Cid, MentalFloss basically said that Ellis is a first-class wanker and waste of money, and he’s not going to read him any more.

      I’d much rather read MentalFloss’s words than any of the so-called “journalists” any day – now
      that’s how you construct a sentence!

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 12 27 at 02:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Nilknarf Arbed

      Thanks…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 27 at 02:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. El Cid – exfoliating the dander might be preparatory to bopping the balony. See Olbermann comments above. Perhaps another way of saying pull out a big one, although probably not appropriate in Mad Uncle Bob’s case.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 12 27 at 03:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Welcome, El Cid. 🙂

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 12 27 at 03:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. British leftists are describing an ever-decreasing arc of nonsense, and will disappear forever after they finish saluting their new, imported overlords.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 12 27 at 03:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #34 I hope you’re right about the arc of nonsense decreasing, blogstrop.

      British leftists sure seem so spectacularly stupid that they couldn’t possibly form a credible fifth column. On the other hand, with such large numbers of like-minded, peaceful immigrant colonialists already in position it wouldn’t take much to tip the scales.

      The problem then becomes one of regaining the initiative in a nation that pretty much didn’t see it coming.

      Posted by splice on 2007 12 27 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Metal Floss sure does speak purty!

      Posted by kae on 2007 12 27 at 04:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. O/T but not by much…

      Whilst we’re talking about leftist/mozzie Brit shit, the never-ending media fixation with Diana, Princess of Wales still carries enough retina flash for ordinary folk to keep blinking. We all know there’s a conspiracy theory built into the narrative surrounding the Princess’s death that casts suspicion on the allegedly underhanded workings of the British Crown and authorities like MI6.

      Thank God the British left aren’t savvy enough to beat a path back to Rovian HQ.*

      * Everybody thinks wronwright can travel through time and space. My guess is that he just wanted to say how much he was missin’ his English babe, and by coincidence, distracted the driver at a critical juncture when he called Diana on her cell.

      Posted by splice on 2007 12 27 at 05:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Yep.  Brown would have known and Kevni would have been in on it too.  Nothing that British Intel does goes unnoticed by Australian Intel.

      So, here he is, hugging members of 2/14 QMI for a nice photo-op, whilst simultaneously being part of a plan which will encourage the enemy.

      Posted by murph on 2007 12 27 at 06:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #17, Infidel Tiger:

      Two thirds of British leftists are honest.

      How about something like…

      Two thirds of British leftists didn’t make their previously scheduled committee meeting for Party Approved Rhetoric and Permissible Thought.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 12 27 at 08:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. Wow… that Bob Ellis article linked in comments here is…. special.

      “For like Christianity, and many savage religions and cults, it writes its doctrines on the bodies of its women.

      They are beheaded for adultery, whipped for being gang-raped, murdered for not wearing the veil, forbidden learning in some places and not let out to go shopping unaccompanied by a watchful male. They are (sometimes, in some communities) honour-killed for having boyfriends yet can be put away at a moment’s notice by a husband tempted by a younger woman. Some of them are clitorectomised by their own grandmothers, with rusty razor blades I hear, lest they find having sex with their unchosen husband enjoyable.”

      Yeah. THAT’S like Christianity.

      “For I believe that in the great sum of things one bullied child is too many, one raped choir boy, one mismatched bride, one tormented mind is too many.”

      So, we’re all as damned by Ellis as by the strange and terrible God he rejected in his youth. Strange that he should rebut himself so bleakly; to speak of the absurdity of the idea of Sin yet clearly remind us of the horrors of it… to reject the terrible demands of the absolute only to reinstate them, not from an awesome and vengeful YHWH but from an old fat journo’.

      Sorry mate, but if I’m going to be submitting to judgement it won’t be from you.

      Posted by wreckage on 2007 12 27 at 09:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. For like Christianity, and many savage religions and cults, it writes its doctrines on the bodies of its women.

      Hey, Bob: When was the last time Christians blew up a female politician for being…well…female

      Posted by murph on 2007 12 27 at 09:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. #40 Wreckage, you’ve got your finger on a very important distinction.

      A long time ago, as the story goes, one prophet went out into the desert and after a few days, in his delirium, was tempted by thoughts of power and glory that would naturally follow if he continued to build his base of followers. He resisted temptation and preached love for fellow man. A cynic, or perhaps a realist, would say that the occupying Romans were all out to stop any kind of power play anyway.

      The other prophet, some years later, went out into the desert and met an angel named Gabreel. The message was Islam and it was written. He preached submission for his followers and the conquest of any and all others.

      The key difference with Christ’s message – and this is what probably annoys many other religions to distraction – is the Christian concept of freedom of choice. All Christians will tell you that God gave us freedom of choice.

      Questions like: is there a God; how many Gods are there; which is the True God are moot when freedom of critical thought, analysis and discussion are taken away.

      Posted by splice on 2007 12 27 at 10:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. #26 Mental Floss, there’s a pretty young writer – Marieke Hardy – in Melbourne who wants to BE Bob Ellis. Her dog is named Bob Ellis.

      Antony Loewenstein’s dog is named Chomsky.

      Something’s going on with these two…

      Posted by carpefraise on 2007 12 27 at 10:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. As for the morons of Olbermann’s stripe, what really bothers me is the outside possibility that they actually believe those idiotic claims, and are not just shooting off their mouths for effect.

      I’m not so sure. If Olbermann’s spouting that crap knowing it’s false, he’s not just being a moron, he’s being a dangerous moron. Claiming that Fox News is more dangerous than the Klan? He’s either ignorant of the Klan’s history, purposefully playing down their crimes (they *were* the militant wing of the Democrat party), or inciting hatred and violence.

      And fer crissake, the lefty line on Limbaugh et. al. is that they “preach hatred”—will any of them ever have the guts to say the same about Olbermann?

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 12 27 at 11:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. #8 “..It’s funny, too, that nobody who ever loved me has been in touch with me since they died, not one of them, not one in fifty years.”

      Well, I think there’s more’n one possible explanation, there, Bobaroo.

      Posted by paco on 2007 12 27 at 12:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. #44, criminy, Rob, Cliton’s dirty tricks staff worked overtime to pin the OK City bombing on Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich.  I guess McVeigh was just the patsy they picked to be fall guy.

      Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 12 27 at 12:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Eagleton lets out a sharp laugh. ‘I certainly hope I am morally superior to people who believe in slaughtering innocents.”

      Eagleton is a commie.  His crowd of ober-leftys has murdered more innocents in a bad day than governments composed of Muslim fanatics (like the Taliban or the mullah swine in Iran) have in their entire existence.

      The majority of British leftys are right.  They AREN’T morally superior to the Taliban.  The pernicious philosophy they adhere to (socialism) is even worse than muslim fanaticism.

      Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 12 27 at 06:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. These are, after all, people who still defend Mao and Stalin, so I suspect the ones held their hands up should be most embarassed.

      Posted by BB77 on 2007 12 27 at 10:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. Here’s an example of Islamic fundamentalist morality.

      Cleric and former Jemaah Islamiya (JI) leader Abu Bakar Bashir toured a village in the badly affected Karanganyar district of Central Java, where he blamed the [landslide] disaster on the “immoral acts” of its victims.

      Posted by Angela Bell on 2007 12 28 at 01:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. Maybe the people in the audience who didn’t raise their hands are morally inferior to the Taliban. Ever think of that?

      Posted by Mambo Bananapatch on 2007 12 28 at 02:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. With morons like Eagleton – they would still be holding endless roundtable discussions with Herr Hitler. And we never have liberated France and Germany from the Nazis would we?

      Posted by Wylie Wilde on 2007 12 28 at 07:35 AM • permalink

 

  1. An audience of British leftists is asked: “Do you feel morally superior to the Taliban?” Their response:

    Only about a third raised a hand to say they did, a nice demonstration of relativist liberal guilt.

    They’re probably right – the ones that felt superior only said it because the Tali’s don’t support gay marriage.

    Posted by Bandit on 2007 12 28 at 10:03 AM • permalink