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Congratulations to James Morrow, who next month becomes leader writer for The Australian, and to Matt Welch, newly-appointed assistant opinion editor at the Los Angeles Times. Matt is working with some interesting folks …

UPDATE. Joel Stein: “Me, Myself, and I(raq).”

UPDATE II. Chief Bastard in comments:

You just never get to see these brave desk warriors actually TELL a returned service person that their contribution was either illegal/immoral/wrong etc.

Which is a shame, because the unarmed combat skills rarely get a workout in this age of modern war.

Posted by Tim B. on 01/24/2006 at 08:25 PM
    1. First Jonah Goldberg, then Matt Welch.  I think this is a plot by the Tribune Corporation to censor conservative columnists by trapping them at irrelevant rags fewer and fewer people are reading…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 24 at 09:37 PM • permalink


    1. Wow, that’s an amazing transcript from Radio Blogger.

      Posted by Melanie on 2006 01 24 at 10:18 PM • permalink


    1. Jesus, that is hair-raising.  Hewitt guts him like a fish.  You’d almost think Stein spent all of his time in a bubble of like-minded folks never having his preconceptions challenged.

      Posted by Mike G on 2006 01 24 at 10:26 PM • permalink


    1. Well, while Hewitt clearly had him by the short and curlies, and I haven’t read the git’s column,  i would have to say that his point thatthe dicks who say they are against thewar, but support the troops, are being a bit too cute.  Nobody seriously believes they support the troops, despite what the hypocritical bastards say.  He is at least honest, if illogical.

      But equally, it is clear that this dick is paid many multiples of my salary and is yet unable to put a coherant, researched column together, even though he is given a week to do it!


      Posted by entropy on 2006 01 24 at 10:49 PM • permalink


    1. Hmmm.

      Joel Stein = typical liberal.

      Really now.  Is there any difference between that utter nonsense and the kind of idiotic claptrap we have to deal with here and on just about every other blog?

      Seriously.  How goofy is that bizzare nonsense?  He doesn’t support the troops in Iraq, but does in other places and doing other things?  So if there’s a soldier in Kuwait looking to get a latte at Starbucks, then he’s golden.  Another Marine going house to house in Fallujah …

      No parades for you!

      Wow.  This guy’s the Parade Nazi.

      Posted by memomachine on 2006 01 24 at 11:01 PM • permalink


    1. Joel Stein does not have the brains to write a op ed.

      Posted by lingus4 on 2006 01 24 at 11:20 PM • permalink


    1. #3 bastes, spit roasts and carves him slowly.

      Hewitt’s interview is something good to savour.


      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 01 24 at 11:22 PM • permalink


    1. The sad thing is we don’t even have anyone even remotely as engaging as Hugh Hewitt (or Sean, or Larry, or Rush, etc) on Australian radio.

      Joel Stein. Glassed.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2006 01 24 at 11:23 PM • permalink


    1. Joel Stein = typical liberal.

      Not quite.  His lying circuit is malfunctioning, giving us a direct insight into his thoughts.  With typical liberals, we have to wait until they think we’re not listening.

      And let’s stop using the word “liberal”.  It’s been mangled into meaninglessness.  Let’s call him what he is.

      Joel Stein is a dick.

      Posted by Pixy Misa on 2006 01 24 at 11:42 PM • permalink


    1. I am so disappointed in Joel Stein.  I always thought he was an okay humorist, and he should have stuck to that.  Another entertainer I’ll never be able to enjoy again.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 01 25 at 12:15 AM • permalink


    1. Stein, in response to whether he “supported the troops” when they went into Afghanistan:

      I’ve had really complicated emotions about Afghanistan.

      Yeah, those really complicated emotions will get you every time if you’re lefty. Imagine a latter-day lefty’s reaction to Hitler (the original, not the Pali guy): “Okay, he may be a vicious despot and mass murderer, but his paintings evoke such really complicated emotions in me, I just can’t figure out if I should support the troops when they storm the beaches…”

      This stuff has truly gone beyond parody.

      Posted by PW on 2006 01 25 at 12:20 AM • permalink


    1. #9 Pixy Misa

      Joel Stein is a dick

      No he’s a pussy (re: Team America)

      Posted by Melanie on 2006 01 25 at 12:41 AM • permalink


    1. You know, I still haven’t seen Team America.  Must remedy that.

      Posted by Pixy Misa on 2006 01 25 at 12:43 AM • permalink


    1. Stein-basted, roasted, carved, chewed up and spat out.

      Beautiful, Mr Hewitt.

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 01 25 at 12:44 AM • permalink


    1. Just echoing thoughts I recently posted on an American (Neptus Lex) “milblogger’s”  site:

      Stein is at least ignorant in the nicest sense of the word.  He’s a publicity hound that may have gotten more publicity than he or the LAT can stand.  Evidence in the Radioblogger transcript.

      I want to really really thank Neptunus Lex and his sailors and Mudville Gazette and LT. Smash (the Indepundit) and Sargent Stryker’s people and Michael Yon’s Punishers and more, not to mention the British, Australian, Polish, Italian, Spanish, Bulgarian, Iraqi, Indonesian, Afghani etc. vets in or previously in this fight (on our side, that is).

      I wish I could somehow counteract the insult from Stein.

      Posted by reese on 2006 01 25 at 12:56 AM • permalink


    1. “…The main thing is that people are talking about me again, which means I’m important…”

      Yeah just like we talk about throwing a bucket o’ custard down Paris Hilton’s hallway.

      Believe what you wanna believe Joel.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2006 01 25 at 01:19 AM • permalink


    1. Reese : you just did.

      Posted by Zoe Brain on 2006 01 25 at 01:19 AM • permalink


    1. Thank you, Treacher.  I needed that.

      Seriously, it’s like Stein is still trying to get into MoDo’s pants.

      Posted by Sortelli on 2006 01 25 at 01:34 AM • permalink


    1. After reading that crap he wrote about himself, and looking at that picture of his, with the stupid smirk on it, i’m certainly feeling even more like wanting to punch this loser in the face..

      A boot up the date might also not go astray….

      Posted by casanova on 2006 01 25 at 01:50 AM • permalink


    1. I’ve been wondering when a squishy liberal would hint at the culpability of the troops in Iraq.  Its a tactic that seemed to work for the anti-war left in Viet Nam though its obvious now that a great deal of animosity ended up directed at them and not the servicemen.  I sense that the left would truly like to resurrect the spitting and the taunts of baby killers but simply don’t have the nerve to do so.

      Posted by Pat Patterson on 2006 01 25 at 02:19 AM • permalink


    1. Jay this might sound pathetically naive but does that phrase about Paris Hilton mean what I think it means?

      Posted by Francis H on 2006 01 25 at 03:18 AM • permalink


    1. O.t Aussie of the year chosen and it’s a genuine cancer doctor who is only interested in doing medical good..hopefully apolitical…the ads by the A.Day Council combined with the Multi Cultis were promoting words from Supreme Judge Michael Kirby and the best he could say about his own country was “Australia tries hard to change.” He was selected to be the candidate in N.S.W. for Australian of the Year—yeah right…The ads were run constantly on radio…

      Posted by crash on 2006 01 25 at 04:11 AM • permalink


    1. I think Treacher done Hendried a few folks.

      Something Hewitt didn’t jump on in the interview – Stein seems to support the troops only when they’re helping disaster victims, i.e., when they’re not doing their job. Which is blowing shit up.

      That’s like saying firemen should only roll in parades.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 01 25 at 04:58 AM • permalink


    1. “Please reassure me, Judge Alito, that you are for abortion but against capital punishment.”
      Sorry, I made that up.

      “Please reassure me that you will not again go to boys schools and deliver lectures advocating that the boys not feel intimidated or ashamed about alternative sexual roles …”

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 01 25 at 06:14 AM • permalink


    1. You just never get to see these brave desk warriors actually TELL a returned service person that their contribution was either illegal/immoral/wrong etc.

      Which is a shame, because the unarmed combat skills rarely get a workout in this age of modern war.

      Posted by CB on 2006 01 25 at 06:38 AM • permalink


    1. I support the troops but I don’t support Joel Stein.

      Posted by Retread on 2006 01 25 at 08:32 AM • permalink


    1. CB,
      Yesterday, Mudville Gazette included a contrast to Joel Stein’s “progressive” views.  I was musing about how those 80+ year old veterans would respond if face-to-face with him.  Probably beat the shit out of him.

      Posted by Blue on 2006 01 25 at 09:52 AM • permalink


    1. Reese,

      You are quite welcome.

      Stein, in response to whether he “supported the troops” when they went into Afghanistan:

      I’ve had really complicated emotions about Afghanistan.

      Yeah – I have a whole range of emotions about Afghanistan too: Rage at the Taliban and the HIG for their horrifying treatment of the Afghan people; Sadness at what the Afghans have had to endure; Hope for their future now that they have a chance at peace and rebuilding; and Humility for being part of the assistance given to the Afghan people.


      Posted by Major John on 2006 01 25 at 10:37 AM • permalink


    1. That transcript of Hugh Hewitt enviscerating Stein is priceless Stein came across as the numbnuts idiot that he is.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 01 25 at 10:37 AM • permalink


    1. “Hendried,” I like that.

      Posted by Jim Treacher on 2006 01 25 at 10:57 AM • permalink


    1. Professor Ian Frazer, Australian of the Year,  found a vaccine for cervical cancer.

      Fiona Wood, for 2005, was an excellent choice. Head of Royal Perth Hospital’s Burns Unit and Director of the Western Australia Burns Service. Dr Wood AM created ‘spray-on skin’ for burns victims, her treatment was brought to public attention after the first Bali bombings. (I can’t help but feel sad that I had to differentiate between Bali bombings…

      I am glad it wasn’t a sporting celebrity or some public servant doing their job.

      Posted by kae on 2006 01 25 at 10:57 AM • permalink


    1. CB — I’ve seen it happen. But most troops seem to realize that FM 7-150 (at the risk of dating myself) or its equivalents, are of limited use in civilian social settings.

      In fact, I invite all lefties to march into their nearest service bar and try this for themselves.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 25 at 11:07 AM • permalink


    1. So, Stein basically said “I don’t know anything about the military or what they actually do, but I feel they’re contemptible ‘agents of American imperialism’ and unworthy of respect or esteem.”  And “I don’t know anything about former or current conditions in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I feel that their liberation was wrong.”

      Behold the reality-based community.  Not a single fact to back up his views, not a jot or tittle of data.  And they call rightwingersignorant sheeple?

      Posted by Achillea on 2006 01 25 at 11:08 AM • permalink


    1. That was excruciating to read. I can’t believe he was smart enough to get a job at the LAT but too dumb to know he shouldn’t go up against the Master Disembowler.  You should remove that painful link immediately and RadioBlogger should be ashamed (aSHAMED) for transcribing such an epic, unholy massacre.

      Tim…I beg you in the name of humanity…do it for the children

      Posted by tree hugging sister on 2006 01 25 at 11:34 AM • permalink


    1. Hmmm.

      What I found that was extremely curious is how few people he knew that had ever served in the military.  That’s completely amazing to me!

      I served in the USMC.  One uncle served in the USMC, another in the Army.  My father served in the US Army for 27 years.  And that’s just my immediate family and doesn’t include nephews, nieces or cousins.  I think my family numbers about 150 people and over a third served in the military.

      There is something really strange going on with costal liberals like Stein.

      Posted by memomachine on 2006 01 25 at 11:46 AM • permalink


    1. They left the best part out of the transcript.  IIRC, it went something like this:

      JS: “Uh, Hugh, one thing I want to ask you before we go”

      HH: “Yes, Joel?”

      JS: “Why is there all this disgusting pink sausage-y stuff all over the floor?”

      HH: “Those are your entrails, Joel.”

      JS: “How’d they get there?”

      HH: “I eviscerated you during the interview.”

      JS: “Oh.”

      HH: “Be sure to pick them up when you get up to leave, you don’t want them dragging on the floor behind you.  We’ll be back after these messages; you’re listening to the Hugh Hewitt Show!”

      Posted by Baby M on 2006 01 25 at 12:17 PM • permalink


    1. #35-Ed:

      No, I think it’s quite common that many left and right coasters know few in the military, as the US military is dominated by volunteers from the South and interior states.

      Though not from Manhattan, I’ve lived here for 19 years, and few here have any connection with the military, but then those that do are similar to your experience—with multiple generations of family service.

      My nephew served in OIF II and I made a special habit to forward his emails home from Iraq to all my friends—most knowing no one in Iraq, much less in the services. To a letter, those supporting our troops, supported our efforts in Iraq, and wanted to know more about events there, as they could not believe the disconnect between my nephew’s reports and what they saw in the MSM.

      And to the letter, those that did not support the effort to liberate Iraq from Saddam would respond by wishing my nephew to be safe home from Iraq. Some would actually go so far as to state that they, of course, do not support to action in Iraq, and inferred no support for the troops, merely good wishes for the health of my relative.

      Aside from two-faced politicians, I think there is only a very small group of people that are against the actions in Iraq, yet support the troops—it would be extremely superficial, at best, to maintain such a logical pretzel.

      So not only is Stein in a cocoon of his own willful ignorance—amply displayed by HH’s Q&A—he imagines a hypocrisy of popular sentiment expressed by those “against the war, but support the troops” that is responsible for the continuation of military action in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      In other words, Stein accuses the American public of a cognitive dissonance as between support for the troops, but against the war. His proscription: stop supporting the troops, and they’ll be brought home, thus ending the conflict.

      Back in the reality-based world, one discerns that it is Stein who suffers from this conflict between belief and action, as he himself cannot identify a rationale for liberation in either Afghanistan or Iraq, he presumes it must be due to a rendition of thought that will now be set free through his articulation.

      No one tells jokes anymore because you barely have time to catch your breath between each parody from the left. Every time you think you’ve heard it all, another nobody (Joel Stein?) bends over, and shoves his foot so far up, he’s flossing with his own shoe laces.

      Karl Rove is a genius.

      Posted by Forbes on 2006 01 25 at 08:19 PM • permalink


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