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Doom Year update! According to Australian Conservation Foundation gumby Don Henry, the Great Clock of Dooming will time us out anywhere between 2012 and 2015:
We know from the science we’ve only got five to eight years get on top of this issue because when you put greenhouse pollution in the atmosphere it stays there for 80 years.
For 80 years, you say? Curse your massive carbon output, 1927 Tiger Car!
Sorry, once bushland has burnt down, there’s nothing left to burn down. So?
CHRIS LUCAS: I looked at the results and I didn’t quite believe it first. I thought there is something wrong with the data. But it’s kind of going up and up and up. It’s either going to continue to rise or it’s going to moderate back down to something more reasonable, that’s the hope.
- Good article here about the question of how long CO2 stays in the atmosphere. Money quote:
“Until recently, the world of science was near-unanimous that CO2 couldn’t stay in the atmosphere for more than about five to 10 years because of the oceans’ near-limitless ability to absorb CO2.”
That was before the climate panic circus got started.
Don Henry is another to jump on the climate change bandwagon recently. As recently as three years ago it was salinity and river quality. So much for being informed about the environment.
Now it is climate change and from this speech speech hew also supports government change at a federal level. Lots of enthusiastic support for a swag of labor politicians. Expect Henry is looking for a cushy job involving lots a jet travel and massive hotel rooms when Peter garrett, a former ACF colleague, is environment minister
Speaking of bushfires, I was in Tasmania recently and met a wonderful old guy who has been working in land management all his life, as did his father. He simply shook his head in horror at the kind of bushfire fuel loads being built up under the deep-Green controls that Tasmania is subject to (Gunns notwithstanding). He recounted an attempt to do a controlled burnoff on a property he was responsible for, when an hysterical resident set upon him. When he pointed out to Hippie Girl what would happen when the real fires did come, she just shrugged: “I don’t care, I’m renting”.
cuckoo – 7 – so she thinks the fires can tell the difference between humans that rent and own, as they come roaring over the hill at over 100km/hr (yes, they can travel that fast, with embers flung kilometres in front and entrapping you) nice of her to think that way.
gosh, the moron bucket is full – anyone have a spare country so we whack these nutjobs there for our own safety?
CO2 is a fire extinguisher, but never mind, up to one half of bushfires are started by arsonists and that number is increasing.
Get up have a new piss poor ad to run. Made me want to burn a stack of tyres or strangle a dolphin its that wankery.
Check out this story on how we “need” 2 more fire warning levels “very extreme” and “catastrophic”.
No fear mongering there eh?
Then I have a look at the agency quoted by this story And the people behind it bar one or 2 (as far as I can tell from their bios) all stand to make money from the AGW industry.
Here they are.Its out of control, I officially usher in the end times, eat drink and be merry for tomorrow you will be carbon neutral.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 27 at 05:19 AM • permalink
- Heres a report on carbon trading which is extremely interesting. Check out section 2.2 “who is selling”.
The EU is buying the majority of carbon credits, while China is SELLING (2006) 60% of the trading credits.21.5 US BILLION $ traded,(2006) I wonder how much that works out to in the currency of guilliableania.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 27 at 05:32 AM • permalink
- kae
Let me guess the dreaded “back burning”, or rather lack of it wasnt mentioned at all as a reason for the severity of the fires?Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 27 at 05:35 AM • permalink
- #13
Nope.
And you just know that droughts and bushfires have never happened in known history…
The reason there was a firestorm in Canberra was that the greenies and the home owners wouldn’t let the CFS or whoever burn off. There was years and years worth of fuel just sitting on the ground waiting to burn.
Bloody idiots.
My Father, Mother and Brother were in the Blue Mountains in the, hmm, can’t remember which year it was, in the late 70s or early 80s, bushfires. A friend of the family was a park ranger and he couldn’t get fire insurance as his house was in the park. They went up there to help him save his house.
Dad said it was the most frightening thing that he had ever been in, with the fire roaring through the tops of the trees, my brother and father both were burnt by large chunks of burning leaves and wood falling from trees and getting under the back of their hats and burning their necks.
And I can’t believe that people actually voted for Koperberg.
Arrgh!
Bugger I forgot the link to the report in N#11 Here it is in PDF
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 27 at 05:47 AM • permalink
According to these guys, they’ve been warning us for FIFTY years that the world was coming to an end!
Mark Wootton with his wife Eve Kantor own, manage and live on a 12,000 acre grazing property at Hamilton, Victoria. Mark is also a director of the Poola Foundation. Poola’s current responsibility is to distribute the funds of the late Tom Kantor, Eve’s brother. $10-million from this fund has been used to establish The Climate Institute.
Poor Mr Tom Kantor is probably turning in his grave.
I’m taking up smoking, getting me some hookers and getting freaky end of days style!
That’s fantastic, IT. But I thought you were going to change something.
Say, God forbid, the planet warms another 0.37 degrees over the next 50-80 years, how long do you think the doomsters can draw this thing out? Because I can assure you, come 2015 or thereabouts, suddenly we’ll have just a leetle bit more time up our sleeves to fix things up, then a leetle bit more. Ad infinitum. Ad nauseum. Yes, it’ll blow over eventually, but will I have to put up with this crap for a substantial period of my life? Ah, Jeebus. (As RebeccaH might say).
Well, D. I’ve survived global cooling, the hole in the ozone layer (the advance of which which I’m assured by some nong I know has been stopped by us not using CFCs – I dunno about China’s contribution to CFCs), Y2K, and God knows what other alarmist scams, but I think this is the best one yet.
So many people sucked in. So much taxpayer money being pissed up against a wall for CC. So much money being conned out of people by the likes of Al Gore, opportunist extraordinaire. CC has permeated every aspect of our lives. It’s unusal to hear or see anything these days which hasn’t been given the AGW/CC stamp of doom and gloom.
The favourite saying of those pushing the AGW/CC barrow, or just hedging their bets to appease all, is “We have to look at the science” and “the science is in”. Well, bugger me, I can’t see any science at all. It’s all speculation based on dodgy data. And anyone can tell you in any system that shit in equals shit out. And there you have AGW/CC.
I suppose I can weather the rest.
- We have this situation where the media discussion is all about the “Australian Guilt Trip” stuff. Let me know when any of the following happens:
1. When anyone in the MSM describes deforestation in Asia and South America as a more important issue than what the average Australian does.
2. Any of the media twerps recognise that if we did not make Aluminium here, it would have to be made in say, China.
3. MSM twigs that “per capita” emissions are less important than “per square kilometre of earth’s surface” emissions.
4. Gore (or any other big-note) turns into Mahatma Gandhi for real, rather than just being fraudulently lauded as if he were.
Mark Wootton with his wife Eve Kantor own, manage and live on a 12,000 acre grazing property at Hamilton, Victoria. Mark is also a director of the Poola Foundation. Poola’s current responsibility is to distribute the funds of the late Tom Kantor, Eve’s brother. $10-million from this fund has been used to establish The Climate Institute.
Poor Mr Tom Kantor is probably turning in his grave.Poor Mr Tom Kantor is probably turning in his grave.
Which is a good thing. All we have to do is hook a dynamo up to him and we’ll have an unlimited, renewable energy source. With no carbon burning whatsoever. We just have to be sure to keep piling on the “smug“ and wasting his remaining money and he’ll keep spinning.
Why is it I suddenly want a 1927 Tiger Car?!
Don’t do it Kae, PETA will be all over you, thinking that Tiger head is real.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 09 27 at 03:59 PM • permalink
Well, if these yahoos succeed in shutting down the Industrial Revolution, we may indeed only have a few more years. These people never look at the life-span of pre-industrial civilizations. If you do somehow manage to live past the age of five, there’s always some plague, borne of filth and ignorance, to wipe you out.
We used to have to worry about the four-legged species of rats, now we have to worry about the two-legged kind.
Was the mysterious dragon lady standard equipment with the Tiger Car, or an optional extra?
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 09 27 at 05:11 PM • permalink
5-8 years ‘til the Goreocalypse? Hot dang, that’s the best news I’ve heard in yonks! If I sell everything I own, I won’t have to work again. I’m taking up smoking, getting me some hookers and getting freaky end of days style!