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Last updated on March 5th, 2018 at 01:45 pm

Two Australians innocently driving along a beachfront road this week were menaced by men, possibly of Middle Eastern appearance, who pursued the pair before ramming their car and driving away.

This happened in Kuwait, by the way. I blame John Howard. Meanwhile, in local riot-related developments:

* A 33-year-old man—unnamed—has been charged for sending racist and inflammatory text messages.

* “Everybody knows the coppers hate Lebs,” says a Lebanese-Australian youngster. “Muslims are blamed for everything,” says another. “I can’t stand this country. I want to go back to Lebanon,” says a third.

* A 17-year-old faces charges of affray and riot following attacks on Lebanese-looking train passengers.

* Sydney beaches will soon feature police buggies.

* Two men have been charged for burning an Australian flag.

* Razi Azmi in Pakistan’s Daily Times: “Does Cronulla show that Australia is a racist country? Of course, some Australians are racist. But their numbers are miniscule … Few countries today can boast such a record of fair treatment of all its citizens, regardless of race, religion and origin, both in law and in practice. And none of those countries are situated in Asia, be it west, east, central, south or southeast.”

* Here’s a twist: “In Hawaii, the centre of the surfing world, ‘haoles’, or blond surfers, are banned from certain beaches by local toughs.”

* Sing along with Professor Bunyip!

Posted by Tim B. on 12/22/2005 at 09:30 PM
    1. Charged with “affray and riot”? Love the legal terminology.

      Posted by paco on 2005 12 22 at 10:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Everybody knows the coppers hate Lebs,” – What about the Leb coppers?

      “Muslims are blamed for everything,” – No mainly I blame the Labor Party.

      “I can’t stand this country. I want to go back to Lebanon,” Want a lift to the airport?

      Posted by Ralph Wiggum on 2005 12 22 at 11:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. I have quite a few friends who are Christian Lebanese.  Not one of them has reported any incidence of “racism” against their Lebanese background.

      Isn’t it time we bring out the “M” word, in order to precisely define societal attitudes?

      Posted by Kaboom on 2005 12 23 at 12:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. haoles’, or blond surfers, are banned from certain beaches by local toughs.”

      It’s been that way for a long time. When I lived there in the early 70’s I, a haole, used to get razzed occasionally while surfing at Sunset Beach.

      On the other hand after I proved my worth in outrigger canoe racing I was welcomed with open arms by one of the premier all Hawaiian teams coached by legend Sam “Steamboat” Mokuahi.

      People as individuals from all societies can be arsewhips.

      Posted by Wallace-Midland Texas on 2005 12 23 at 12:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. ““I can’t stand this country. I want to go back to Lebanon,” says a third. “

      Perhaps we should start accepting pledges to pay the airfare for any Leb who wants to go back and will renounce his Aust citizenship to do so?

      I doubt it will cost us much.

      Posted by Harry Buttle on 2005 12 23 at 01:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. ““I can’t stand this country. I want to go back to Lebanon,” says a third. “

      Buh-bye.

      Posted by JayC on 2005 12 23 at 01:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Muslims are blamed for everything” – Yeah, everyone knows the Amish were behind 9/11, Bali, 7/7, etc.

      Posted by wcf4440 on 2005 12 23 at 02:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Wallace, I was there in 1958. It was that way then. I think it started for serious during, or slightly after, WWII.

      Posted by ekw on 2005 12 23 at 02:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Why is the name of the 25-year-old charged with burining an Australian flag not reported. Surely it would halp to calm the situation if people could be shown it did not contain the word “Mahommet.”

      Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 12 23 at 03:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. #9

      When you hear of underage criminals, who can only be reported as MMK, MRK etc. you can sometimes guess what the M stands for…

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2005 12 23 at 03:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. #1 – ‘riot’ and ‘affray’ are indeed specific, separate offences in Australia, with affray being the most serious. The degrees are:

      Unlawful Assembly

      It is a misdemeanour at common law for three or more persons to gather together either for the purpose of committing or preparing to commit a crime involving the use of violence or in order to carry out any purpose in an unlawful manner. The essence of this offence is that it has a tendency to create a breach of the peace.

      Rout

      If the persons gathered in an unlawful assembly begin to move towards the achievement of their object, in however small a way, they become guilty of the common law offence known as rout.

      Riot

      When the assembly has begun to execute the common purpose and, in so doing, displayed such violence as to alarm at least one person of reasonable firmness and courage, its members will, if they can be shown to intend to help one another by force if necessary, become guilty of the common law offence of riot.

      Affray

      Affray consists in participating unlawfully in a violent breach of the peace so as to cause terror to others. Usually the participation will occur by actual fighting, but brandishing offensive weapons is sufficient to constitute the offence. An affray may occur in either a public or private place and may be committed by one person alone. The accused’s action must be unlawful so that if, for example, he or she is merely defending him or herself no affray is committed. It is essential that the violence displayed by the accused should be of a nature calculated to terrify (rather than might terrify), a person of reasonable firmness. It is not, however, necessary to prove that persons present at the time were actually terrified. Nor is it necessary that a bystander be present. Rather it is sufficient if the unlawful fighting, violence or display of force was such that a bystander of reasonable firmness and courage, if present, might reasonably be expected to be terrified.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2005 12 23 at 04:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. In the US flag-burning is the canary-in-the-mine safeguard of free speech.  The right people get so angry about it that you want to preserve it as a good test.  It remains protected as expression, at the moment ; and is constantly under attack.  It reminds you that freedom is a dynamic sort of thing.

      It looks like your canary died, however.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2005 12 23 at 04:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. #12 not so.

      These guys were not charged with “burning an Australian flag’ as such, despite the headlines. There is no such offence.

      They were charged with “malicious damage by fire” and entering premises with the intention of committing an indictable offence. If they had gone into the RSL club and set fire to a table umbrella they would have faced the same charges.

      The canary still twitters and sings in fine voice.

      Posted by geoff on 2005 12 23 at 05:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Everybody knows the coppers hate Lebs”

      No shit, Sherlock. I wonder why?

      Posted by EliotNess on 2005 12 23 at 06:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. SBS tonight showed a police drama (Unit One) from Denmark. The episode dealt with a family of Middle Eastern origin, where the father anally raped the daughter for years (so she would still present as a virgin), then murdered her suitor and the suitor’s mother, and tried to escape blame by letting either his 13 year old son or the daughter herself take the rap. His wife assisted as an accessory after the fact of murder. In the final dramatic moment the father is prevented from killing the daughter with a shard of broken glass.
      Is SBS therefore racist? Is Denmark? Or is there some other factor at work in this repeated representation – not just in “racist” Australia – of a migrating cultural disaster?
      Am I going for the Kim Beazley Circumlocutional Prolixity Award here?

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 12 23 at 06:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. ABC news seems to be following the overseas lead in dealing at length with anything controversial that Saddam coughs up on camera, but little if any coverage of the ongoing list of beatings, torture, and killing done under his auspices.
      Are those nasty things only a problem if they are done by Westerners to terrorists or by Japanese to whales?

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 12 23 at 06:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ahem, the flag that was burnt wasn’t theirs to burn, it was removed from the RSL (Veterans’ Club) and burnt. First they stole it off the flagpole, then they burnt it.

      Anyway, if you feel so bad about Australia you want to burn the flag, fuck off out of the country.

      (*hic* it’s the gin)

      Posted by kae on 2005 12 23 at 09:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. Razi you’re a star…
      Anyone getting as confused as me with the plethora of “this one did a racist thing,that one said a racist thing,this one burnt a flag,that one had a molotov cocktail…”
      When there is talk of racial taunts at the cricket -who is sledging who?Are white Australians sledging white SAfricans? or are white Australian cricketers sledging Black SAfricans? Half the time you have no idea? As long as we beat New Zealand o.k?

      Posted by crash on 2005 12 23 at 10:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. #9

      Hadi Khawaja, 24, is charged over an incident in Bay St, Brighton-le-Sands in Sydney, in which he and a youth allegedly burned two flags, one belonging to the Brighton RSL

      Not quite Mohommet….

      Posted by Schizm on 2005 12 23 at 10:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. A bit off-topic…

      But check out Osama’s hot niece!

      Posted by ekb87 on 2005 12 23 at 11:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. Us not politically correct? Na -otherwise the ABC would never get away with the words “Did Jesus of Nazareth ever exist. If so,what can we ever know about him?” on their web site..

      Posted by crash on 2005 12 23 at 11:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. #18 Well – turns out white Safrican/Australia dwellers might have been sledging Black Safrican cricket players.
      At last some clarity.
      Aw they’re very annoyed that Ntini is such a great bowler…but think on -he’s on THEIR side….if they’re still barracking for Safrica.Sigh..still don’t get it.

      Posted by crash on 2005 12 23 at 12:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. Were there bats involved?  We all know people don’t kill people, bats kill people!

      We live in a batty world, people.

      Posted by Patricia on 2005 12 23 at 12:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Hey, haole-boy! You been makin’ wiki-wiki wit’ our wahinis?”

      Direct quote, circa 1974. Just prior to the beating.

      It’s not just the beaches they get over-protective about.

      Posted by mojo on 2005 12 23 at 01:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. 20: What’s the Arabic for “hubba hubba”?

      Posted by paco on 2005 12 23 at 03:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20

      That would be “goat goat” in Arabic or the almost-as-popular, “Show us yer hair!”

      Posted by Phranger on 2005 12 23 at 03:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. “Everybody knows the coppers hate Lebs”

      Different place, different voices, but a familiar refrain.

      There are many spots around the Hawaiian islands where haoles are unwelcome.

      The more things change, yada yada yada…

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2005 12 23 at 04:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16, thanks for pointing that out.  You very rarely hear the specifics about the allegations against Saddam, just his rantings and ravings.

      What a pathetic world we live in.

      Posted by tdw77 on 2005 12 23 at 05:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. ““I can’t stand this country. I want to go back to Lebanon,” says a third.”

      I’ll be glad to chip in on the airfair for this loser.  And I’m not even Australian.

      Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2005 12 23 at 07:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20
      She’s almost as hot as a Queen of Jordan.

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 12 23 at 08:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. I used to frequently see small groups of Middle Eastern-looking men on beaches in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs. They seemed to have no trouble fitting in, never appeared threatening and enjoyed sharing the beaches without impinging on the rights of others.

      The only thing you’d ever notice was that they’d occasionally break into a bit of Hebrew.

      Posted by Smithovitch on 2005 12 23 at 08:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. #31, nice one Hamish.

      By the way, does your email address confuse the hell out of people you spell it to?

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2005 12 24 at 01:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. 20: What’s the Arabic for “hubba hubba”?

      Show us yer Gaza Strip!

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2005 12 24 at 04:06 AM • permalink

 

  1. Uh oh, scientists in the USA are killing a violence-reducing beetle

    Scientists Target Tree-Killing Beetle

    …Ash trees [that the beetle kills] are also valued for wildlife food and their strong wood used for furniture and baseball bats.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/24/AR2005122401173.html

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 12 25 at 08:19 AM • permalin