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Possibly the ultimate leftist slogan of 2007:
Well, I suppose he might have, in between invading Poland with electric-biofuel Prius Panzers and stuffing resource-consuming Jews into solar ovens. The man was an ecological powerhouse.
A man who was a vegetarian and loved children and dogs can’t be all bad. I’m glad the Left is restoring his stature as one of the unsung heroes of environmentalism.
Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 10 06 at 01:51 PM • permalink
“I’m glad the Left is restoring his stature as one of the unsung heroes of environmentalism.”
When in doubt, they usually back the man with the mustache.
Posted by Ed Driscoll on 2007 10 06 at 01:56 PM • permalink
Hey, all those Jews would have had big carbon footprints, probably…
Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 10 06 at 02:30 PM • permalink
If you can’t trust Howard on climate change place your order now for this disturbing (because it’s true) T-shirt.
You got it, Mike; the only reason it’s at all disturbing is because it’s true. But let’s be fair, Hitler did the best he could for the climate: he personally eliminated some 12 million carbon-spewing units from the planet and was responsible for the removal of millions more. Sure, all that concentrated burning and rotting of flesh created a spike in CO2 emissions, but it was only temporary.
Listen, I think we can agree that GWB pretty much has the Hitler thing sown up. JoHo is just gonna have to make do with one of the lesser fascists.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 02:35 PM • permalink
The Left are obviously prepared to extend Hitler some carbon credits for all the humans polluters he murdered.
Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 10 06 at 04:30 PM • permalink
If you like lame satirical poems that are several notches below the “Burma Shave” school in quality and originality, then Hudson’s web site is for you (what is it about guys named Hudson? Wasn’t that also the name of the publisher of that Niagra Falls rag?)
No doubt Hitler was pretty tough on litterbugs and jaywalkers, too, but that whole militaristic, genocidal, lebensraum thing was a pretty high price to pay – whether for safe, clean streets, or organic gardening.
- OT.
Frenchmen go to war against each other and both sides give up.Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 10 06 at 04:54 PM • permalink
Well, there is a certain similarity in speaking styles.
Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2007 10 06 at 05:06 PM • permalink
- What a fuckwit.
(Sorry, it’s early, I can’t think of a more intelligent contribution.)Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 10 06 at 05:36 PM • permalink
And the stupid prinks have not woken up to Rudds promise to do nothing until 2060.
Posted by curious george on 2007 10 06 at 05:47 PM • permalink
- (Feeling slightly more alive…)
No doubt Hitler really wanted to use solar power at Auschwitz. He must have fretted deeply over the output from that chimney.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 10 06 at 05:55 PM • permalink
But these T-shirt wearers have already lost, by invoction of Godwin’s Law.
My interpretation of this law is “The first person to mention Hitler or Nazis, loses” …. on teh absis that they cannot make moral or historical or factual judgements.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 06 at 06:23 PM • permalink
It reminds me of the Peta “Jesus was a vegaetarian” slogan, which is not true. However, Hitler was a vegetarian, true.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 06 at 06:24 PM • permalink
Hudson isn’t the first, nor the most developed, to come up with that idea.
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 10 06 at 06:35 PM • permalink
When I visited that link I thought it must be satire. Obviously it’s not, and I’m sorry I contributed to their visitor statistics. How sickening.
Posted by Mambo Bananapatch on 2007 10 06 at 06:46 PM • permalink
That site provides links to some interesting articles, including this detailed examination of the convergences between Nazism and environmentalism. An extract:
In Landscape and Memory (New York: A.A. Knopf, 1995), Simon Schama, a professor in the history and art history departments at Columbia University, stated that, to the Nazis, the Germans were “a biologically pure and inviolate race, as ‘natural’ to its terrain as indigenous species of trees and flowers.” Many influential Nazis held that the German people had resulted from a “race-specific landscape,” and that Jews, Gypsies, and foreign plants were alien to this “landscape” and therefore fit for extermination. Reinhold Tuexen, head of the Central Office for Vegetation Mapping of the German Reich, asserted that it was necessary “to cleanse the German landscape of unharmonious foreign substance.” In 1942 a team of botanists from Saxony5 supported by Tuexen equated the fight against foreign plants and that against “the plague of Bolshevism [Russian communism].” The Third Reich applied the concept of Germanizing lands even to territories it had annexed as lebensraum (“living space”)—land it claimed was necessary for Germany’s survival or for the continuation of its independence.
In a 1987 issue of Planning Perspectives, Dr. Gert Gröning, a professor at the University of Arts, in Berlin, and Joachim Wolschke- Bulmahn, editor of Nature and Ideology: Natural Garden Design in the Twentieth Century (Washington, D.C.: Dumbarton Oaks Research Library and Collection, 1997)—both authorities on Nazi garden design—described such Germanizing as deeds of an “ecological religion” and of “ecohumanism” and, in effect, as a flight from “political reality.” In Nature and Nationalism, Olsen states that, on the basis that “all Slavs were inherently destructive of their environment,” Nazi “environmental planners . . . set about reshaping the Polish landscape.”
Like present-day champions of postmodernism, many influential Nazis were opposed to anthropocentrism. Olsen states: “According to national socialist ideology, an anthropocentric view of nature—that man stands above nature, rather than being simply one, non-privileged part of nature—was to be decisively rejected.” He quotes Himmler: “ . . . [M]an is nothing special, only a piece of nature.” According to the SS training manual, “the concept of humanity is biological nonsense.”
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 10 06 at 07:14 PM • permalink
I think I’ve told this story before on this site, but it bears repeating, given that T-shirt.
When I was a nobody clerk for AAFES’ Safety and Security Office in Munich (an American NATO/civil service entity administering the American military PX and commissary function in West Germany [and worldwide]) in the mid-70s, the secretary for the director was a female German national in her 60s. She had seen Hitler passing by in a parade in Nuremburg when she was a child, something she never failed to remind us.
She did not love America. One day, there was news of a murder in Munich, an inexplicable killing that was possibly part of a series (which did not happen among the civilized Germans, of course), and she immediately fastened on the story of Richard Speck. She said, in all seriousness:
“You would never have seen that under Hitler.”
It’s not stupidity. It’s not even ignorance. It’s Denial, as evil an entity as there ever was, and unfortunately, it’s not new either.
Steady on. The writing is completely level, it doesn’t look like it is actually printed on fabric and stretched across the chest. Also we have no idea how many, if any, have been ordered, sold, worn etc. We don’t want to do a “Mandela is alive!” and fall for the “RW attack dogs criticise non-existent T-shirt” trick.
Posted by ooh honey honey on 2007 10 06 at 07:36 PM • permalink
OMG! The Libertarian National Socialist Party?! WTF!
Their motto ought to be, “Our Carbon-Neutral Trains Will Run On Time!”
That site is so far beyond parody, it left me with my mouth agape and my chin resting on my chest. It’s amazing just how badly cross-wired a human brain can become: Libertarian Nazi’s. Jesus H. Christ in a chicken basket.
OT: Setting up a website is HARD WORK (Andrea is even cooler than I thought!). Alpha test version is here, for those who’d like to take a peek.
He was also heavily into tree planting.
Bush Derangement Syndrome continues to mutate into increasingly insane manifestations.
Many notions that come from the green/left are based on ignorance and ideological wishful thinking. Like national socialism, it appeals to the disaffected, ignorant and opportunistic among society. The Nazis worshipped all types of mythical ‘new-age’ rubbish, so like the Nazis the green/left really don’t have any original thoughts either. As to their ‘humour,’ paper mache heads and political satire is not really their strong suite, after all Pravada was not exactly a side splitting read. Just look at our local version.
Er, thanks, Evil Pundit. That was…something. What does it mean if you actually endorse a few of their ideas? Makes me feel dirty.
“ . . . [M]an is nothing special, only a piece of nature.” According to the SS training manual, “the concept of humanity is biological nonsense.”
Of the many dangerous ideas out there, these are two of the most dangerous (or perhaps they’re one in the same).
#23–It’s not stupidity. It’s not even ignorance. It’s Denial, as evil an entity as there ever was…
Or, in some cases, wishful thinking.
Never my cup of tea, Juan Cole has a colorful history pockmarked by nutty ideas, but now, it seems, he’s just a plain ole full-time nutter. I don’t think he’ll ever get over the Yale thing. Probably blames it on Bush.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 10:03 PM • permalink
Hucbald, are you George A Pepper? Beautiful. I love solo guitar.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 10:08 PM • permalink
- #20 Evil Pundit, I second that. I thought there was no limits to human stupidity, but that site would have to be touching the red line.
Hitler would have acted on AGW by bombing the other countries back into the stone age and killing millions. Oh wait! Thats just what he did…Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 06 at 10:14 PM • permalink
I read the Libertarian Nazi Greens advocate returning all ethnic groups back to their place of origin; Asians back to Asia, Black People back to Africa, mixed races to North Africa and the Middle East (cough), but nothing about white folks being sent back to Europe. Hmm. Finally, a solution to the demographic dilemna of declining birth rates in Europe!
Posted by Furry Lewis on 2007 10 06 at 10:28 PM • permalink
an American NATO/civil service entity administering the American military PX and commissary function
Translation please, rebeccaH.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 06 at 10:38 PM • permalink
Scene: An unknown advertising agency on Madison Ave, NY.
Buzz. D. Kazminsky (Marketing guru): Al, what seems to be the problem?
Al Gore: It’s my film, I’m not as popular as I once was.
Buzz: I thought it was going great guns, schools showing it, lotsa cash from the talk circuit, your own plane,
Gore: Well, it seems that’s the problem, the truth has become erm, inconvenient. I need your help
Buzz: I had the team do some brainstorming and we’ve come up with a great new idea: “ Hitler, greener than a Bush”
Gore: Hitler? Go on, I’m listening
Buzz: Well it all fits doesn’t it, vegetarian (tick), liked planting trees (tick)
Gore: Hmmm, go on
Buzz: This is the best bit, he, get this, re-cycled people, you know, hair into matresses, flesh into soap, etc
Even better, he was testing new, energy friendly fuels and more efficient petroleum products.
Gore: But he built the Autobahns, they waste fuel (looks to aide who nods)
Buzz: Yes but he had a speed limit, he wanted to save fuel! It was the US who took the speed limits off!
Gore: Great, (turns to aide) lets see if we can pin this to Bush and his connections to the oil industry.
Marketing underling: We find Mr. Gore that Hitler tests surprisingly well with your core demographic, vegetarian as mentioned, liked dogs, fond of fine arts, hated kids and disliked Jews. We think you are onto a winner.
Gore: This is amazing
Buzz: Even better, he was into reducing the planet’s population, what could be greener than that? By the time we’re finished with him, he’ll be the new green saint.
Gore: Amen.
She worked as an administrative clerk for the DOD agency that supplies goods and merchandise to military base stores.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 10:58 PM • permalink
#42 in response to Wimpy Canadian.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 11:00 PM • permalink
- Let’s suppose some uberfuehrer – call him “Hitler” – acted to reduce Australia’s carbon emissions as at 31/12/2007 to zero by killing all inhabitants and destroying anything else that emitted.
Next year the world’s emissions would be:
a. 1.6% lower
b. no change
c. 2.4% higher
d. more than c above
(Clue – Australia represents 1.6% of the total emissions)
Assuming China and India continue to grow their emissions (which have gone up some 80% in the last 17 years and are accelerating unhindered by domestic green movements) the presence or non-presence of Australia’s emissions is lost in the noise.
Shut down Australia’s aluminium industry (a major consumer of energy) and you will just relocate it to another up-and-comer nation who pays scant regard to the PC contorted logic writ large in all media scribblings and electioneering output this year.
Hucbald: awesome. I haven’t even attempted to go near Flash addons. Though a previous primitive web page of mine did have primitive embedded sounds.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 10 06 at 11:17 PM • permalink
- Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 06 at 11:28 PM • permalink
Libertrian Nazi Greens. Who knew the human mind could hold so many contradictions without exploding. I suppose the Libertarians, in their attempt to posit political theory without reference to any particular philosophy should not find itself attached to either the Nazis or the Greens. Anarchists merely pave the way to make it easier for the statists to run over them.
As for the Nazis and Greens: not a whits worth of difference between them when all is said and done. Statism is statism, no matter what particular hook it uses to bring in the thoughtless.
Adolf’s finest act on behalf of the green movement was on 30.4.1945. Lead by example he did, although the cremation bit probably took the shine off his green credentials a little
Posted by the nailgun on 2007 10 06 at 11:48 PM • permalink
- We probably shouldn’t forget that dear ol’ Mr Bin Laden has been banging on about climate change for a while now too.
See how it brings people of all persuasions together. Unlike Howard whose been so divisive.Posted by the nailgun on 2007 10 06 at 11:51 PM • permalink
Kyda has explained it succinctly, WimpyCanadian. Specifically, I worked for the AAFES (Army & Air Force Exchange Service) Safety & Security Office, which oversaw Occupational Safety and Health Administration regulations, as well as crime prevention and enforcement for military base stores at McGaw Kaserne in Munich. That was their main HQ in Europe when we were there in the mid-70s, but I understand no longer exists there (in fact, I’m not sure there’s a US military presence in Munich at all anymore).
In any case it was thirty years ago, so the German secretary I spoke of would be in her very late 80s or early 90s now. So, given that she was a thoroughly nasty personality anyway, I’m quite sure she’s dead. And good riddance.
- #52 Rebecca, your story has reminded me of a Munich connection.
In the 1970s I was lavishly hosted in Munich by a very successful Grunwald resident. Like me, he had been in his last year of primary school when the war ended in 1945.
He was considering migrating to Australia and was quizzing me about Oz attitudes to Germans.
I assured him that we held no grudges but it would probably be wise to remember that we were once deadly enemies.
Until then, he was totally unaware that Australian forces had played any part in WWII and he had to ask me on which side we had fought.
He was even more amazed when I told him that we were on the Britishers’ side.
Obviously, what was taught to German children during WWII was about as accurate as a Gore movie.
- #53 Skeeter,
Your story reminded me of my experience in 1968 when I was scrawny wide-eyed young tourist travelling around Europe by train.
When I arrived in Munich, I presented myself at the nearest hotel opposite the station and instead of being shown to a gloomy cupboard under the stairs, as was usually the case (particularly in France), I was escorted to the corner penthouse suite overlooking the square.
I was not quizzed about Australians’ attitude to Germans and the incident has puzzled me ever since.
#2, Actually Hitler being a vegetarian is a myth.
Hitler loved his meat, and beer. I forget the book I read it in, but it was one that covered a lot of these sorts of stories and corrected them.
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 10 07 at 06:01 AM • permalink
Well that didnt take long at all!
The book is actually called ‘Blood and Soil’
and is subtitled ‘Walther Darre and hitlers Green Party’.The Author is Anna Bramwell
The book was published in 1985
ISBN 0946041334
their is a wikipedia entry about Darre
Enter the following in google to go where i went, ‘walther darre green party’.
Copies of this book are on sale at 110 pounds
I remembered the book because it was mentioned in ‘SS Alibi of a Nation’, is truth stranger than fiction or what.
VOTE 2007: It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the two candidates:
Candidate A: He suffers depression, was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, is a heavy smoker, supports imperialism, drinks a bottle of champagne for breakfast and a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate B: He is a decorated war hero. He’s a vegetarian, doesn’t smoke, drinks an
occasional beer and never cheated on his wife. He is a committed environmentalist, a cultural historian, lover of opera, a painter, a poet and an architect with an impressive vision for major urban renewal..
.
.Candidate A is Winston Churchill.
Candidate B is Adolf Hitler.Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 10 09 at 02:03 AM • permalink
A while back, Alex Beam of the Boston Globe did a great job lampooning a trio of enviro-wacko professors who wrote a book praising how green was Hitler’s valley: “A silent springtime for Hitler”.