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Last updated on March 6th, 2018 at 12:30 am

Frances Marcus, a 74-year-old Holocaust survivor, reviews Israel’s version of The Producers:

The biggest fun on earth. You couldn’t have put this on twenty or even ten years ago. And now to see this Hitler dancing and not feel offended. Attitudes to Germany have changed totally.

Both sides have grown up. And with this whole business of the [Prophet Muhammad] cartoons—isn’t this just the biggest, super-mega cartoon, this show?

The show would probably be banned in Indonesia under forthcoming legislation:

The same groups staging violent demonstrations against the West over cartoons of the prophet Muhammad are targeting pornography in their battle to transform Indonesia into a strict Islamic nation. And they are winning: parliament is set to introduce a sweeping anti-pornography law.

Expected to be passed by June, the law imposes a rigid social template; couples who kiss in public will face up to five years’ jail, as would anyone flaunting a “sensual body part” – including their navel – and tight clothing will be outlawed.

Hit the link to see an image (totally work-safe) that may send an Indonesian artist to prison. I’d say Indonesian politicians deserve to be satirised over this, but I’m still working out relative power levels and so on.

Posted by Tim B. on 02/24/2006 at 10:47 PM
    1. This is the point. That a Mel Brooks can produce a piece of work that laughs at elements of an event that scarred his own people is a sign of not only maturity but also of growth.

      Jewish comedians have given us much, where would we be without Brooks and Henry, Seinfeld and David? What a pity that others have yet to become mature in this way.

      See the original and see genius (Mostel) in action. See the re makes and be bored.

      Posted by Nic on 2006 02 24 at 11:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. I suppose eventually these Muslim puritans will get around to screaming about the pornography on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 24 at 11:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. “See the original and see genius (Mostel) in action.”.
      Co-incidentally, (for East Coast Australians) Channel 10 (says) it is broadcasting the original 1968 (straight) version, starring Zero Mostel {“flaunt it baby”} and Gene Wilder) at 12 noon tomorrow, Feb 25. Having seen both versions (the first several times) I agree with Nic – Wilder and Mostel’s interpretations are so funny and so superior to the musical rehash that any comparison is really a non-event.
      PS. For the benefit of the ankle-biters who were not alive in 1968, I do know that Mel Brooks wrote and directed the original and was credited as a writer in the re-hash. The curious thing is that the original version of ‘The Producers’ excited very little attention from the MSM of the day (apart from the theatre & movie critics, that is). But, of course, we have matured (in a societal sense) since then (sardonic key off).
      If you are still sleeping off the intellectual pursuits of the previous evening, record it it’s well worth it!

      Posted by Boss Hog on 2006 02 25 at 12:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. #2 well the catholics did paint loincloths & such over some of michaelangelo’s nudes

      Posted by KK on 2006 02 25 at 12:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. I would like to invite the entire Indonesian Parliment to Disney World on June 3

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 02 25 at 12:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve got the original Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder film on my hard drive. I must have it watched one hundred times and its still as funny as ever.
      I’m waiting for the New Version “Springtime for Mo and Aisha” a romp through the tulips at the Oasis to appear in Lakemba.
      I thought that the dance of the accountants at Whitehall and Marks was superb in the new movie and that they should not have cut out Bialystock’ chase of the old ladies.
      Also i could not help concluding that much of the “Jewishness” of the original seemd to be missing in the new version.

      Posted by davo on 2006 02 25 at 01:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #4 Doh, that was hundreds of years ago! It’s hilarious to think that 45 years ago bikini-clad babes were kicked off Bondi Beach. The joke sours when you consider that some would now favour the reintroduction of such rulings.

      Posted by slatts on 2006 02 25 at 01:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’m not Jewish but, the nuances of the humour in the original are excellent. If you look at say, Mel Brooks and Woody Allen, they have a way of portraying neurotic characters in a very sharp way. You do get the sense that they dont take everything about society or indeed culture/faith seriously. Perhaps this is what our Mohammadean brothers need. Given that this film was originally made less than 30 years after the war when wounds were a lot rawer than they are now, is no mean feat.

      Posted by Nic on 2006 02 25 at 01:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. #6 Davo, how about having Dakota Fanning play “Aisha” (except at 12 she’s several years too old to play Mohammed’s ‘favourite’ bride)

      Who’d play Mohammed? Someone needed to convey a sense of the derranged prophet who started out preaching peace, and then said “Slay all the idolators where you find them”.
      Russell Crowe could reprise a ‘Hando’ like character (from Romper Stomper) to play the ‘tolerant’ prophet

      Posted by Montalban on 2006 02 25 at 01:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Well i reckom GEORGY CLOONEY or Gourgeous George for MO. Leave out the dancing or singing MOs for that one.
      Although they Say MO was a “terrific dancer” and could dance the pants off Jesus.
      Jesus with his “the meek shall inherit the earth”! Mo showed him for sure who would inherit the earth!
      And ULLA, the Captured harem slave from the land of the Infidel thats not an easy one is it?
      How about Jane Fonda? with Germaine Greer as her evil Chaperone who ends up selling her to save herself from a stoning to death.
      And the chorus line has got to be the dancing Camels!

      Posted by davo on 2006 02 25 at 04:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. Actually Mo’s already been in a film; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074896/

      though they don’t show his face.

      This film though leaves out him molesting a nine year old Aisha.

      (PS – have a look at the user comments about people who attacked this film)

      Posted by Montalban on 2006 02 25 at 05:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. It sounds like Indonesia is on the highway to hell. How interesting it will be, having the worlds largest fundamentalist Islamic state, right next to Australia.

      Posted by daddy dave on 2006 02 25 at 03:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. Couples to get five years jail for kissing in public.  Yet if you spit or piss in the street that’s ok.  And one more, I wonder what would happen to same sex couples if they were caught having a quick snog, probably the firing squad.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 02 25 at 08:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. Montalban

      A couple of factoids re: Moustapha Akkad:

      1/ He also directed the Halloween horror movies

      Which is a sad irony because,

      2/ He was killed in the suicide bombings of the wedding at hotel in Amman a few months back

      Posted by murph on 2006 02 25 at 10:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Who’d play Mohammed?

      Christopher Lloyd.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 02 25 at 10:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. Rob Crawford — Or someone a bit more over the top, like John Kerry.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 02 25 at 11:59 PM • permalink

 

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